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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Angela Cymbalak <a....@nechtan.org> on 2008/04/14 16:13:47 UTC
guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal
Hi,
I am looking into the possibility of writing a proposal to have some
code included as a podling within the Incubator project. I have been
reading the Incubator Web site and I believe that I have a pretty
good idea of what I would need to do if I wanted to contribute my
code. The code that I have written is a photo gallery along the
lines of Flickr. Instead of being written in PHP, it was written in
Java. Currently, I am the only person who has worked on the code.
I was looking for an area of the Incubator Web site that would list
rejected proposals. It occurs to me that a project like this may
have been discussed previously and voted against. I did not see a
project like this among any of the existing Apache projects;
although, I did see a few suggestions for projects such as Roller to
include a gallery.
Any guidance would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Angie
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Angela Cymbalak
Nechtan Design
http://www.nechtandesign.com
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Re: guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Thilo Goetz <tw...@gmx.de> wrote:
> The proposal guide is here:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html
>
> One way to find a champion is to start writing your
> proposal on the incubator wiki, and notifying this
> list. As people understand what it is you want to
> do, they may step up to the task. Starting the
> proposal on the wiki is not the same as officially
> submitting it.
+1
if you blog then write entries about why the proposal excites you.
excitement is contageous: unless you are well connected@apache, that's
the best way to find a champion.
- robert
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Re: guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal
Posted by Thilo Goetz <tw...@gmx.de>.
The proposal guide is here:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html
One way to find a champion is to start writing your
proposal on the incubator wiki, and notifying this
list. As people understand what it is you want to
do, they may step up to the task. Starting the
proposal on the wiki is not the same as officially
submitting it.
--Thilo
Angela Cymbalak wrote:
> I am happy to write up the proposal. The more I read and think about
> this project the more I really think that it would be a great one for
> Apache to undertake if the appropriate community can be built around it.
>
> The only thing holding up my proposal writing is my concern for the
> process. The process implies that one needs to have a Champion *before*
> writing the proposal and finding the Mentors. I am aware of whom I can
> ask to be a Champion but I don't want to overstep my bounds. There are
> two existing projects that I believe a photo gallery would compliment.
> Is a Champion required before submitting the proposal?
>
> Also, did I miss finding an FAQ on the Proposal process? I checked the
> Wiki and the Incubator Web site. I don't want to post a lot of
> questions that may be answered easily elsewhere.
>
> Thanks,
> Angie
>
>
> At 11:08 AM 4/14/2008, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Andrus Adamchik
>> <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
>> > Also even if some other proposals got canned, this doesn't this one
>> won't
>> > get accepted. The best thing to do is to submit a proposal following
>> one of
>> > the existing templates and let the people on this list comment on
>> it, and
>> > see if you can find mentors here.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> it's community, not code
>>
>> (the acceptance process is also somewhat subjective which introduces
>> an element of chance)
>>
>> - robert
>>
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Re: guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal
Posted by Angela Cymbalak <a....@nechtan.org>.
I am happy to write up the proposal. The more I read and think about
this project the more I really think that it would be a great one for
Apache to undertake if the appropriate community can be built around it.
The only thing holding up my proposal writing is my concern for the
process. The process implies that one needs to have a Champion
*before* writing the proposal and finding the Mentors. I am aware of
whom I can ask to be a Champion but I don't want to overstep my
bounds. There are two existing projects that I believe a photo
gallery would compliment. Is a Champion required before submitting
the proposal?
Also, did I miss finding an FAQ on the Proposal process? I checked
the Wiki and the Incubator Web site. I don't want to post a lot of
questions that may be answered easily elsewhere.
Thanks,
Angie
At 11:08 AM 4/14/2008, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
>On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Andrus Adamchik
><an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
> > Also even if some other proposals got canned, this doesn't this one won't
> > get accepted. The best thing to do is to submit a proposal following one of
> > the existing templates and let the people on this list comment on it, and
> > see if you can find mentors here.
>
>+1
>
>it's community, not code
>
>(the acceptance process is also somewhat subjective which introduces
>an element of chance)
>
>- robert
>
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Re: guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
> Also even if some other proposals got canned, this doesn't this one won't
> get accepted. The best thing to do is to submit a proposal following one of
> the existing templates and let the people on this list comment on it, and
> see if you can find mentors here.
+1
it's community, not code
(the acceptance process is also somewhat subjective which introduces
an element of chance)
- robert
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Re: guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Also even if some other proposals got canned, this doesn't this one
won't get accepted. The best thing to do is to submit a proposal
following one of the existing templates and let the people on this
list comment on it, and see if you can find mentors here.
Andrus
On Apr 14, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Thilo Goetz wrote:
> Angela Cymbalak wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am looking into the possibility of writing a proposal to have
>> some code included as a podling within the Incubator project. I
>> have been reading the Incubator Web site and I believe that I have
>> a pretty good idea of what I would need to do if I wanted to
>> contribute my code. The code that I have written is a photo
>> gallery along the lines of Flickr. Instead of being written in
>> PHP, it was written in Java. Currently, I am the only person who
>> has worked on the code.
>> I was looking for an area of the Incubator Web site that would list
>> rejected proposals. It occurs to me that a project like this may
>> have been discussed previously and voted against. I did not see a
>> project like this among any of the existing Apache projects;
>> although, I did see a few suggestions for projects such as Roller
>> to include a gallery.
>
> Did you look at the incubator wiki? There's list of proposals
> there, most of which got accepted though:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/
>
> I don't remember a project like yours being proposed in the
> past.
>
> --Thilo
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Re: guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal
Posted by Thilo Goetz <tw...@gmx.de>.
Angela Cymbalak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking into the possibility of writing a proposal to have some
> code included as a podling within the Incubator project. I have been
> reading the Incubator Web site and I believe that I have a pretty good
> idea of what I would need to do if I wanted to contribute my code. The
> code that I have written is a photo gallery along the lines of Flickr.
> Instead of being written in PHP, it was written in Java. Currently, I
> am the only person who has worked on the code.
>
> I was looking for an area of the Incubator Web site that would list
> rejected proposals. It occurs to me that a project like this may have
> been discussed previously and voted against. I did not see a project
> like this among any of the existing Apache projects; although, I did see
> a few suggestions for projects such as Roller to include a gallery.
Did you look at the incubator wiki? There's list of proposals
there, most of which got accepted though:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/
I don't remember a project like yours being proposed in the
past.
--Thilo
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