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Posted to solr-user@lucene.apache.org by ka...@gmx.de on 2011/04/07 16:12:16 UTC
Solr without Server / Search solutions with Solr on DVD (examples?)
Hi folks,
we want to migrate our search-portal to Solr.
But some of our customers search in our informations offline with a DVD-Version.
So we want to estimate the complexity of a Solr DVD-Version.
This means to trim Solr to work on small computers with the opposite of heavy loads. So no server-optimizations, no Cache, less facet terms in memory...
My question:
Does anyone know examples of solutions with Solr starting from DVD?
Is there a tutorial for “configure a slow Solr for Computer with little main memory”?
Any best practice tips from yourself?
Best regards
Karsten
Re: Solr without Server / Search solutions with Solr on DVD
(examples?)
Posted by ka...@gmx.de.
Hi Ezequiel,
In Solr the performance of sorting and faceted search is mainly a question of main memory.
e.g Mike McCandless wrote in s.apache.org/OWK that sorting of 5m wikipedia documents by title field need 674 MB of RAM.
But again: My main interest is an example of other companies/product who delivered information on DVD with "stand alone" Solr.
Best regards
Karsten
-------Ezequiel
> Try setting a virtual machine and see its performance.
>
> I'm really not a java guy, so i really don't know how to tune it for
> performance...
>
> But afaik solr handles pretty well in ram if the index is static...
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Karsten Fissmer <ka...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi yonik, Hi Ezequiel,
> >
> > Java is no problem for an DVD Version. We already have a DVD version
> with
> > Servlet-Container (but this does currently not use Solr).
> >
> > Some of our customers work in public sector institutions and have less
> then
> > 1gb main memory, but they use MS Word and IE and..
> >
> > But let us say that we can set Xmx384m (we have 14m documents).
> > Xmx384m with 14m UnitsOfRetrieval means e.g. that we do not allow the
> same
> > fields for sorting as on server.
> >
> > My main interest is an example of other companies/product who delivered
> > information on DVD with "stand alone" Solr.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Karsten
> >
> > > ---yonik
> > > Including a JRE on the DVD and a launch script that uses that JRE by
> > > default should be doable as well.
> > > -Yonik
> > >> ----Jeffrey
> > >> Even if you can ship your DVD with a jetty server, you'll still need
> > >> JAVA
> > >> installed on the customer machine...
> > >>
> > >>> ---Karsten
> > >>> My question:
> > >>> Does anyone know examples of solutions with Solr starting from DVD?
> > >>> Is there a tutorial for “configure a slow Solr for Computer with
> little
> > main memory”?
> > >>> Any best practice tips from yourself?
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ______
> Ezequiel.
>
> Http://www.ironicnet.com
Re: Solr without Server / Search solutions with Solr on DVD (examples?)
Posted by Ezequiel Calderara <ez...@gmail.com>.
Try setting a virtual machine and see its performance.
I'm really not a java guy, so i really don't know how to tune it for
performance...
But afaik solr handles pretty well in ram if the index is static...
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Karsten Fissmer <ka...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi yonik, Hi Ezequiel,
>
> Java is no problem for an DVD Version. We already have a DVD version with
> Servlet-Container (but this does currently not use Solr).
>
> Some of our customers work in public sector institutions and have less then
> 1gb main memory, but they use MS Word and IE and..
>
> But let us say that we can set Xmx384m (we have 14m documents).
> Xmx384m with 14m UnitsOfRetrieval means e.g. that we do not allow the same
> fields for sorting as on server.
>
> My main interest is an example of other companies/product who delivered
> information on DVD with "stand alone" Solr.
>
> Best regards
> Karsten
>
> > ---yonik
> > Including a JRE on the DVD and a launch script that uses that JRE by
> > default should be doable as well.
> > -Yonik
> >> ----Jeffrey
> >> Even if you can ship your DVD with a jetty server, you'll still need
> >> JAVA
> >> installed on the customer machine...
> >>
> >>> ---Karsten
> >>> My question:
> >>> Does anyone know examples of solutions with Solr starting from DVD?
> >>> Is there a tutorial for “configure a slow Solr for Computer with little
> main memory”?
> >>> Any best practice tips from yourself?
>
--
______
Ezequiel.
Http://www.ironicnet.com
Re: Solr without Server / Search solutions with Solr on DVD
(examples?)
Posted by Karsten Fissmer <ka...@gmx.de>.
Hi yonik, Hi Ezequiel,
Java is no problem for an DVD Version. We already have a DVD version with Servlet-Container (but this does currently not use Solr).
Some of our customers work in public sector institutions and have less then 1gb main memory, but they use MS Word and IE and..
But let us say that we can set Xmx384m (we have 14m documents).
Xmx384m with 14m UnitsOfRetrieval means e.g. that we do not allow the same fields for sorting as on server.
My main interest is an example of other companies/product who delivered information on DVD with "stand alone" Solr.
Best regards
Karsten
> ---yonik
> Including a JRE on the DVD and a launch script that uses that JRE by
> default should be doable as well.
> -Yonik
>> ----Jeffrey
>> Even if you can ship your DVD with a jetty server, you'll still need
>> JAVA
>> installed on the customer machine...
>>
>>> ---Karsten
>>> My question:
>>> Does anyone know examples of solutions with Solr starting from DVD?
>>> Is there a tutorial for “configure a slow Solr for Computer with little main memory”?
>>> Any best practice tips from yourself?
Re: Solr without Server / Search solutions with Solr on DVD (examples?)
Posted by Yonik Seeley <yo...@lucidimagination.com>.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Jeffrey Chang <jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Even if you can ship your DVD with a jetty server, you'll still need JAVA
> installed on the customer machine...
Including a JRE on the DVD and a launch script that uses that JRE by
default should be doable as well.
-Yonik
http://www.lucenerevolution.org -- Lucene/Solr User Conference, May
25-26, San Francisco
Re: Solr without Server / Search solutions with Solr on DVD (examples?)
Posted by Jeffrey Chang <jc...@gmail.com>.
Even if you can ship your DVD with a jetty server, you'll still need JAVA
installed on the customer machine...
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Ezequiel Calderara <ez...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Can't you just run a jetty server on the background?
>
> But probably some antivirus or antispyware could take that as an tojan or
> something like that.
>
> How many little main memory is? 1gb? less?
>
> I don't think that you are going to have problems above 1gb. The index will
> be static, no changes, no optimizations...
>
> That's my thought
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM, <ka...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > we want to migrate our search-portal to Solr.
> > But some of our customers search in our informations offline with a
> > DVD-Version.
> > So we want to estimate the complexity of a Solr DVD-Version.
> > This means to trim Solr to work on small computers with the opposite of
> > heavy loads. So no server-optimizations, no Cache, less facet terms in
> > memory...
> >
> > My question:
> > Does anyone know examples of solutions with Solr starting from DVD?
> >
> > Is there a tutorial for “configure a slow Solr for Computer with little
> > main memory”?
> >
> > Any best practice tips from yourself?
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> > Karsten
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ______
> Ezequiel.
>
> Http://www.ironicnet.com <http://www.ironicnet.com/>
>
Re: Solr without Server / Search solutions with Solr on DVD (examples?)
Posted by Ezequiel Calderara <ez...@gmail.com>.
Can't you just run a jetty server on the background?
But probably some antivirus or antispyware could take that as an tojan or
something like that.
How many little main memory is? 1gb? less?
I don't think that you are going to have problems above 1gb. The index will
be static, no changes, no optimizations...
That's my thought
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM, <ka...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> we want to migrate our search-portal to Solr.
> But some of our customers search in our informations offline with a
> DVD-Version.
> So we want to estimate the complexity of a Solr DVD-Version.
> This means to trim Solr to work on small computers with the opposite of
> heavy loads. So no server-optimizations, no Cache, less facet terms in
> memory...
>
> My question:
> Does anyone know examples of solutions with Solr starting from DVD?
>
> Is there a tutorial for “configure a slow Solr for Computer with little
> main memory”?
>
> Any best practice tips from yourself?
>
>
> Best regards
> Karsten
>
--
______
Ezequiel.
Http://www.ironicnet.com