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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by Rafael Weingartner <ra...@gmail.com> on 2013/10/04 00:31:19 UTC

How to hide some server offerings?

Hey all,

I was wondering, I have some server offering that should just be used by
the administrator, so, is it possible to hide them from normal users?

I noticed that when I am creating a service offering there is a check-box
called public? So, I created some service offering that would be used just
for by the administrator, but they are appearing for all users (I did not
check that checkbox).

I also tried to check and uncheck the check-box(by the way it seems there
is a javascript problem on that page) and then selecting a domain like
root, but still the offerings are appearing to everybody.

Is it the expected behavior?
Do you happen to know if I can change any flag on the database and hide
them from normal users?

-- 
Rafael Weingartner

Re: How to hide some server offerings?

Posted by France <ma...@isg.si>.
Then use my previous suggestion. To write it again, step by step 
tutorial style.

For users:
1. Create a new domain uder ROOT, let's say Public.
2. Create users in this Public domain.
3. Create service offerings specific/tied to Public domain.

For admins:
1. Create a new domain under ROOT, let's say Private.
2. Create service offerings specific/tied to Private domain.

Service offerings from Private and Public domain will be available to 
Administrators and service offerings from and only from Public domain 
will be available to users in Public domain.

I could also write using CAPS LOCK as you did, but i don't think it 
would help you understand any better.

Good luck and Regards,
F.

On 4/10/13 3:06 PM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
> No man,
> let's go slowly:
> I have user administrator that should manage the infrastructure and 
> some VMs that are vital for our cloud, point.
> These VMs use service offerings that provide much more resources, so 
> they should not be used by normal users, and that's why we would like 
> to hide them.
>
> So, THE ADMINISTRATORS CAN AND SHOULD USE THESE SPECIAL SERVICE 
> OFFERINGS, but the rest of the cloud SHOULD NOT.
>
>
>
>
> 2013/10/4 France <mailinglists@isg.si <ma...@isg.si>>
>
>     So you want to have a user(s), that can create new infrastructure
>     (compute, storage nodes, networks) but it's not able to create
>     service offerings on them? I guess no one envisioned such a need.
>     Normally if one can manage infrastructure on which services will
>     reside, it should be able to create service offerings too.
>
>     For what you're trying to to (if i understand you right), i would
>     have set up different, discrete CS installs.
>
>
>
>     On 4/10/13 2:45 PM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>>     But, If I move them to a domain they would not be able to manage
>>     the infrastructure. right?
>>
>>
>>     2013/10/4 France <mailinglists@isg.si <ma...@isg.si>>
>>
>>         Move those "administrators" to their own domains as normal users.
>>         Administrators will always be able to see/configure
>>         everything, that's the basic point of being administrator.
>>
>>
>>         On 4/10/13 2:40 PM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>>>         I know the concept of inheritance.
>>>
>>>         The problem here as I said is that I have administrator
>>>         users that manage the whole infrastructure, they are linked
>>>         directly to the root domain.
>>>
>>>         Saying that, how would create the service offering that
>>>         should just be visible to the administrators? Keep in mind
>>>         that they are on the root domain.
>>>
>>>
>>>         2013/10/4 France <mailinglists@isg.si
>>>         <ma...@isg.si>>
>>>
>>>             It's called inheritance.
>>>             I put my public users to public domain.
>>>             I put my private users to their private domain(s).
>>>             And then I put specific service offerings to specific
>>>             domains and are visible only there.
>>>             I guess if i wanted something cross domains i would put
>>>             it to domain root (like you) and everyone (because it's
>>>             under domain root) would be able to use it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 4/10/13 2:11 PM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             I tried this, I created some service offering on domain
>>>>             root, but they are visible to user on root\...\...
>>>>
>>>>             Even though I unmarked the public check box.
>>>>
>>>>             I tried to create without specifying domain, but it
>>>>             also not working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             2013/10/4 France <mailinglists@isg.si
>>>>             <ma...@isg.si>>
>>>>
>>>>                 Create domains and domain specific service offerings.
>>>>                 It can be done, i know because we are doing in
>>>>                 since v 3.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 On 4/10/13 12:31 AM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                     Hey all,
>>>>
>>>>                     I was wondering, I have some server offering
>>>>                     that should just be used by
>>>>                     the administrator, so, is it possible to hide
>>>>                     them from normal users?
>>>>
>>>>                     I noticed that when I am creating a service
>>>>                     offering there is a check-box
>>>>                     called public? So, I created some service
>>>>                     offering that would be used just
>>>>                     for by the administrator, but they are
>>>>                     appearing for all users (I did not
>>>>                     check that checkbox).
>>>>
>>>>                     I also tried to check and uncheck the
>>>>                     check-box(by the way it seems there
>>>>                     is a javascript problem on that page) and then
>>>>                     selecting a domain like
>>>>                     root, but still the offerings are appearing to
>>>>                     everybody.
>>>>
>>>>                     Is it the expected behavior?
>>>>                     Do you happen to know if I can change any flag
>>>>                     on the database and hide
>>>>                     them from normal users?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             -- 
>>>>             Rafael Weingartner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Rafael Weingartner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Rafael Weingartner
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Rafael Weingartner


Re: How to hide some server offerings?

Posted by France <ma...@isg.si>.
So you want to have a user(s), that can create new infrastructure 
(compute, storage nodes, networks) but it's not able to create service 
offerings on them? I guess no one envisioned such a need. Normally if 
one can manage infrastructure on which services will reside, it should 
be able to create service offerings too.

For what you're trying to to (if i understand you right), i would have 
set up different, discrete CS installs.


On 4/10/13 2:45 PM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
> But, If I move them to a domain they would not be able to manage the 
> infrastructure. right?
>
>
> 2013/10/4 France <mailinglists@isg.si <ma...@isg.si>>
>
>     Move those "administrators" to their own domains as normal users.
>     Administrators will always be able to see/configure everything,
>     that's the basic point of being administrator.
>
>
>     On 4/10/13 2:40 PM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>>     I know the concept of inheritance.
>>
>>     The problem here as I said is that I have administrator users
>>     that manage the whole infrastructure, they are linked directly to
>>     the root domain.
>>
>>     Saying that, how would create the service offering that should
>>     just be visible to the administrators? Keep in mind that they are
>>     on the root domain.
>>
>>
>>     2013/10/4 France <mailinglists@isg.si <ma...@isg.si>>
>>
>>         It's called inheritance.
>>         I put my public users to public domain.
>>         I put my private users to their private domain(s).
>>         And then I put specific service offerings to specific domains
>>         and are visible only there.
>>         I guess if i wanted something cross domains i would put it to
>>         domain root (like you) and everyone (because it's under
>>         domain root) would be able to use it.
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 4/10/13 2:11 PM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>>>
>>>         I tried this, I created some service offering on domain
>>>         root, but they are visible to user on root\...\...
>>>
>>>         Even though I unmarked the public check box.
>>>
>>>         I tried to create without specifying domain, but it also not
>>>         working.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         2013/10/4 France <mailinglists@isg.si
>>>         <ma...@isg.si>>
>>>
>>>             Create domains and domain specific service offerings.
>>>             It can be done, i know because we are doing in since v 3.*
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 4/10/13 12:31 AM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Hey all,
>>>
>>>                 I was wondering, I have some server offering that
>>>                 should just be used by
>>>                 the administrator, so, is it possible to hide them
>>>                 from normal users?
>>>
>>>                 I noticed that when I am creating a service offering
>>>                 there is a check-box
>>>                 called public? So, I created some service offering
>>>                 that would be used just
>>>                 for by the administrator, but they are appearing for
>>>                 all users (I did not
>>>                 check that checkbox).
>>>
>>>                 I also tried to check and uncheck the check-box(by
>>>                 the way it seems there
>>>                 is a javascript problem on that page) and then
>>>                 selecting a domain like
>>>                 root, but still the offerings are appearing to
>>>                 everybody.
>>>
>>>                 Is it the expected behavior?
>>>                 Do you happen to know if I can change any flag on
>>>                 the database and hide
>>>                 them from normal users?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Rafael Weingartner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Rafael Weingartner
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Rafael Weingartner


Re: How to hide some server offerings?

Posted by France <ma...@isg.si>.
Move those "administrators" to their own domains as normal users.
Administrators will always be able to see/configure everything, that's 
the basic point of being administrator.

On 4/10/13 2:40 PM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
> I know the concept of inheritance.
>
> The problem here as I said is that I have administrator users that 
> manage the whole infrastructure, they are linked directly to the root 
> domain.
>
> Saying that, how would create the service offering that should just be 
> visible to the administrators? Keep in mind that they are on the root 
> domain.
>
>
> 2013/10/4 France <mailinglists@isg.si <ma...@isg.si>>
>
>     It's called inheritance.
>     I put my public users to public domain.
>     I put my private users to their private domain(s).
>     And then I put specific service offerings to specific domains and
>     are visible only there.
>     I guess if i wanted something cross domains i would put it to
>     domain root (like you) and everyone (because it's under domain
>     root) would be able to use it.
>
>
>
>     On 4/10/13 2:11 PM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>>
>>     I tried this, I created some service offering on domain root, but
>>     they are visible to user on root\...\...
>>
>>     Even though I unmarked the public check box.
>>
>>     I tried to create without specifying domain, but it also not working.
>>
>>
>>
>>     2013/10/4 France <mailinglists@isg.si <ma...@isg.si>>
>>
>>         Create domains and domain specific service offerings.
>>         It can be done, i know because we are doing in since v 3.*
>>
>>
>>         On 4/10/13 12:31 AM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>>
>>             Hey all,
>>
>>             I was wondering, I have some server offering that should
>>             just be used by
>>             the administrator, so, is it possible to hide them from
>>             normal users?
>>
>>             I noticed that when I am creating a service offering
>>             there is a check-box
>>             called public? So, I created some service offering that
>>             would be used just
>>             for by the administrator, but they are appearing for all
>>             users (I did not
>>             check that checkbox).
>>
>>             I also tried to check and uncheck the check-box(by the
>>             way it seems there
>>             is a javascript problem on that page) and then selecting
>>             a domain like
>>             root, but still the offerings are appearing to everybody.
>>
>>             Is it the expected behavior?
>>             Do you happen to know if I can change any flag on the
>>             database and hide
>>             them from normal users?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Rafael Weingartner
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Rafael Weingartner


Re: How to hide some server offerings?

Posted by France <ma...@isg.si>.
It's called inheritance.
I put my public users to public domain.
I put my private users to their private domain(s).
And then I put specific service offerings to specific domains and are 
visible only there.
I guess if i wanted something cross domains i would put it to domain 
root (like you) and everyone (because it's under domain root) would be 
able to use it.


On 4/10/13 2:11 PM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>
> I tried this, I created some service offering on domain root, but they 
> are visible to user on root\...\...
>
> Even though I unmarked the public check box.
>
> I tried to create without specifying domain, but it also not working.
>
>
>
> 2013/10/4 France <mailinglists@isg.si <ma...@isg.si>>
>
>     Create domains and domain specific service offerings.
>     It can be done, i know because we are doing in since v 3.*
>
>
>     On 4/10/13 12:31 AM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
>
>         Hey all,
>
>         I was wondering, I have some server offering that should just
>         be used by
>         the administrator, so, is it possible to hide them from normal
>         users?
>
>         I noticed that when I am creating a service offering there is
>         a check-box
>         called public? So, I created some service offering that would
>         be used just
>         for by the administrator, but they are appearing for all users
>         (I did not
>         check that checkbox).
>
>         I also tried to check and uncheck the check-box(by the way it
>         seems there
>         is a javascript problem on that page) and then selecting a
>         domain like
>         root, but still the offerings are appearing to everybody.
>
>         Is it the expected behavior?
>         Do you happen to know if I can change any flag on the database
>         and hide
>         them from normal users?
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Rafael Weingartner


Re: How to hide some server offerings?

Posted by France <ma...@isg.si>.
Create domains and domain specific service offerings.
It can be done, i know because we are doing in since v 3.*

On 4/10/13 12:31 AM, Rafael Weingartner wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I was wondering, I have some server offering that should just be used by
> the administrator, so, is it possible to hide them from normal users?
>
> I noticed that when I am creating a service offering there is a check-box
> called public? So, I created some service offering that would be used just
> for by the administrator, but they are appearing for all users (I did not
> check that checkbox).
>
> I also tried to check and uncheck the check-box(by the way it seems there
> is a javascript problem on that page) and then selecting a domain like
> root, but still the offerings are appearing to everybody.
>
> Is it the expected behavior?
> Do you happen to know if I can change any flag on the database and hide
> them from normal users?
>


Re: How to hide some server offerings?

Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
Rafael,

You can add a jira ticket and/or write a functional spec on the wiki. Of
course if you want guarantee that it will be doen, you'll have to do it
yourself. You can ask on the dev list for help if you don't feel up to it.

regards,
Daan


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Rafael Weingartner <
rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:

> I strongly agree, it is something very interesting and pretty simple to
> code.
> Where can I go to suggest it ?
>
>
> 2013/10/4 benoit lair <ku...@gmail.com>
>
> > It would be interesting to propose this feature for the new version of
> > cloudstack, why not for the cs 4.3 ?
> >
> > Regards, Benoit.
> >
> >
> > 2013/10/4 Alena Prokharchyk <Al...@citrix.com>
> >
> > > Rafael, there is no way to filter offerings by the caller type, not
> even
> > > in the DB.
> > >
> > > "Public" attribute means that the offering is available to everyone in
> > the
> > > cloud; there is another alternative - offering can be domain specific.
> In
> > > this case it can be used by all users from this domain/its subdomains.
> > >
> > > As a workaround, you can set the name for the offerings you want to be
> > > visible to admin, with some prefix. And filter out those offerings when
> > > return the result to the regular user - but for that some custom
> > > modifications need to be done in the CS UI.
> > >
> > > -Alena.
> > >
> > > On 10/3/13 3:31 PM, "Rafael Weingartner" <ra...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hey all,
> > > >
> > > >I was wondering, I have some server offering that should just be used
> by
> > > >the administrator, so, is it possible to hide them from normal users?
> > > >
> > > >I noticed that when I am creating a service offering there is a
> > check-box
> > > >called public? So, I created some service offering that would be used
> > just
> > > >for by the administrator, but they are appearing for all users (I did
> > not
> > > >check that checkbox).
> > > >
> > > >I also tried to check and uncheck the check-box(by the way it seems
> > there
> > > >is a javascript problem on that page) and then selecting a domain like
> > > >root, but still the offerings are appearing to everybody.
> > > >
> > > >Is it the expected behavior?
> > > >Do you happen to know if I can change any flag on the database and
> hide
> > > >them from normal users?
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Rafael Weingartner
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rafael Weingartner
>

Re: How to hide some server offerings?

Posted by Rafael Weingartner <ra...@gmail.com>.
I strongly agree, it is something very interesting and pretty simple to
code.
Where can I go to suggest it ?


2013/10/4 benoit lair <ku...@gmail.com>

> It would be interesting to propose this feature for the new version of
> cloudstack, why not for the cs 4.3 ?
>
> Regards, Benoit.
>
>
> 2013/10/4 Alena Prokharchyk <Al...@citrix.com>
>
> > Rafael, there is no way to filter offerings by the caller type, not even
> > in the DB.
> >
> > "Public" attribute means that the offering is available to everyone in
> the
> > cloud; there is another alternative - offering can be domain specific. In
> > this case it can be used by all users from this domain/its subdomains.
> >
> > As a workaround, you can set the name for the offerings you want to be
> > visible to admin, with some prefix. And filter out those offerings when
> > return the result to the regular user - but for that some custom
> > modifications need to be done in the CS UI.
> >
> > -Alena.
> >
> > On 10/3/13 3:31 PM, "Rafael Weingartner" <ra...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Hey all,
> > >
> > >I was wondering, I have some server offering that should just be used by
> > >the administrator, so, is it possible to hide them from normal users?
> > >
> > >I noticed that when I am creating a service offering there is a
> check-box
> > >called public? So, I created some service offering that would be used
> just
> > >for by the administrator, but they are appearing for all users (I did
> not
> > >check that checkbox).
> > >
> > >I also tried to check and uncheck the check-box(by the way it seems
> there
> > >is a javascript problem on that page) and then selecting a domain like
> > >root, but still the offerings are appearing to everybody.
> > >
> > >Is it the expected behavior?
> > >Do you happen to know if I can change any flag on the database and hide
> > >them from normal users?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Rafael Weingartner
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>



-- 
Rafael Weingartner

Re: How to hide some server offerings?

Posted by benoit lair <ku...@gmail.com>.
It would be interesting to propose this feature for the new version of
cloudstack, why not for the cs 4.3 ?

Regards, Benoit.


2013/10/4 Alena Prokharchyk <Al...@citrix.com>

> Rafael, there is no way to filter offerings by the caller type, not even
> in the DB.
>
> "Public" attribute means that the offering is available to everyone in the
> cloud; there is another alternative - offering can be domain specific. In
> this case it can be used by all users from this domain/its subdomains.
>
> As a workaround, you can set the name for the offerings you want to be
> visible to admin, with some prefix. And filter out those offerings when
> return the result to the regular user - but for that some custom
> modifications need to be done in the CS UI.
>
> -Alena.
>
> On 10/3/13 3:31 PM, "Rafael Weingartner" <ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hey all,
> >
> >I was wondering, I have some server offering that should just be used by
> >the administrator, so, is it possible to hide them from normal users?
> >
> >I noticed that when I am creating a service offering there is a check-box
> >called public? So, I created some service offering that would be used just
> >for by the administrator, but they are appearing for all users (I did not
> >check that checkbox).
> >
> >I also tried to check and uncheck the check-box(by the way it seems there
> >is a javascript problem on that page) and then selecting a domain like
> >root, but still the offerings are appearing to everybody.
> >
> >Is it the expected behavior?
> >Do you happen to know if I can change any flag on the database and hide
> >them from normal users?
> >
> >--
> >Rafael Weingartner
> >
>
>
>

Re: How to hide some server offerings?

Posted by Alena Prokharchyk <Al...@citrix.com>.
Rafael, there is no way to filter offerings by the caller type, not even
in the DB.

"Public" attribute means that the offering is available to everyone in the
cloud; there is another alternative - offering can be domain specific. In
this case it can be used by all users from this domain/its subdomains.

As a workaround, you can set the name for the offerings you want to be
visible to admin, with some prefix. And filter out those offerings when
return the result to the regular user - but for that some custom
modifications need to be done in the CS UI.

-Alena.

On 10/3/13 3:31 PM, "Rafael Weingartner" <ra...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Hey all,
>
>I was wondering, I have some server offering that should just be used by
>the administrator, so, is it possible to hide them from normal users?
>
>I noticed that when I am creating a service offering there is a check-box
>called public? So, I created some service offering that would be used just
>for by the administrator, but they are appearing for all users (I did not
>check that checkbox).
>
>I also tried to check and uncheck the check-box(by the way it seems there
>is a javascript problem on that page) and then selecting a domain like
>root, but still the offerings are appearing to everybody.
>
>Is it the expected behavior?
>Do you happen to know if I can change any flag on the database and hide
>them from normal users?
>
>-- 
>Rafael Weingartner
>