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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> on 2021/05/07 13:33:59 UTC

SceneBuilder integration and update

I was wondering if there is a particular reason about the SceneBuilder
embedded being still a very old version. As far as I could see the current
one (version 16) and the one for Java 8 too are under BSD license which is
compatible with Apache 2.0.
So should it be feasible to update it?

Re: SceneBuilder integration and update

Posted by Mar R <ma...@gmail.com>.
I know JavaFX and Swing are not the same, I was confused about the editor,
but you've just clarified that one is one different from SB; I didn't know
there was one integrated, thanks!

Il giorno mar 11 mag 2021 alle ore 13:50 Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> ha scritto:

> You’re talking about the GUI editor for Swing, which has always been there?
>
> Maybe you’re confused between JavaFX and Swing?
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, 11 May 2021 at 13:47, Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jeremy thanks for the info for but that wasn't my problem, I used SB in
> > the past.
> > So if SB isn't integrated in NB, what's that GUI editor?
> > Because I'm on a fresh system install, and this time I haven't downloaded
> > SB not any plugins, I don't even have JavaFX installed nor activated it
> > through the Tools > Options > Java > JavaFX
> >
> > Attached there's a screenshot of the GUI editor I'm talking about, on a
> > file from a NB source module
> >
> > Il giorno dom 9 mag 2021 alle ore 21:11 Geertjan Wielenga
> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> ha scritto:
> >
> >> Would be great, yes.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 20:57, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > If there is enough interest, I can donate the code to Apache NetBeans
> >> so we
> >> > can work on this as a community.
> >> >
> >> > Just let me know
> >> >
> >> > Sven
> >> >
> >> > P.S. The major problems for now 1. javafx can not be distributed via
> >> Apache
> >> > Binaries (so we need to build this using an auto download at runtime)
> 2.
> >> > Persistent backend storage... and XML-Editor...
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:31 AM John Kostaras <jk...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > There is this attempt <
> https://github.com/svenreimers/nbscenebuilder>
> >> to
> >> > > integrate it with NetBeans.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 09:12, Mar R <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > While browsing some module from NetBeans source a file opened in
> >> design
> >> > > > view, I premused it was SB embedded, but maybe NB has another GUI
> >> > editor
> >> > > I
> >> > > > don't know of
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Il giorno ven 7 mag 2021 alle ore 18:44 Scott Palmer <
> >> > swpalmer@gmail.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ha scritto:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Since when has NetBeans embedded SceneBuilder?  I've always had
> to
> >> > > > install
> >> > > > > it separately.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:34 AM Mar R <marco.robiati91@gmail.com
> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > I was wondering if there is a particular reason about the
> >> > > SceneBuilder
> >> > > > > > embedded being still a very old version. As far as I could see
> >> the
> >> > > > > current
> >> > > > > > one (version 16) and the one for Java 8 too are under BSD
> >> license
> >> > > which
> >> > > > > is
> >> > > > > > compatible with Apache 2.0.
> >> > > > > > So should it be feasible to update it?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Sven Reimers
> >> >
> >> > * Java Champion
> >> > * Apache NetBeans PMC: http://netbeans.apache.org
> >> > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee
> >> > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018
> >> >
> >> > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
> >> >
> >>
> >
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Re: SceneBuilder integration and update

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
You’re talking about the GUI editor for Swing, which has always been there?

Maybe you’re confused between JavaFX and Swing?

Gj

On Tue, 11 May 2021 at 13:47, Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeremy thanks for the info for but that wasn't my problem, I used SB in
> the past.
> So if SB isn't integrated in NB, what's that GUI editor?
> Because I'm on a fresh system install, and this time I haven't downloaded
> SB not any plugins, I don't even have JavaFX installed nor activated it
> through the Tools > Options > Java > JavaFX
>
> Attached there's a screenshot of the GUI editor I'm talking about, on a
> file from a NB source module
>
> Il giorno dom 9 mag 2021 alle ore 21:11 Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> ha scritto:
>
>> Would be great, yes.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 20:57, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > If there is enough interest, I can donate the code to Apache NetBeans
>> so we
>> > can work on this as a community.
>> >
>> > Just let me know
>> >
>> > Sven
>> >
>> > P.S. The major problems for now 1. javafx can not be distributed via
>> Apache
>> > Binaries (so we need to build this using an auto download at runtime) 2.
>> > Persistent backend storage... and XML-Editor...
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:31 AM John Kostaras <jk...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > There is this attempt <https://github.com/svenreimers/nbscenebuilder>
>> to
>> > > integrate it with NetBeans.
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 09:12, Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > While browsing some module from NetBeans source a file opened in
>> design
>> > > > view, I premused it was SB embedded, but maybe NB has another GUI
>> > editor
>> > > I
>> > > > don't know of
>> > > >
>> > > > Il giorno ven 7 mag 2021 alle ore 18:44 Scott Palmer <
>> > swpalmer@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > > ha scritto:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Since when has NetBeans embedded SceneBuilder?  I've always had to
>> > > > install
>> > > > > it separately.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:34 AM Mar R <ma...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I was wondering if there is a particular reason about the
>> > > SceneBuilder
>> > > > > > embedded being still a very old version. As far as I could see
>> the
>> > > > > current
>> > > > > > one (version 16) and the one for Java 8 too are under BSD
>> license
>> > > which
>> > > > > is
>> > > > > > compatible with Apache 2.0.
>> > > > > > So should it be feasible to update it?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sven Reimers
>> >
>> > * Java Champion
>> > * Apache NetBeans PMC: http://netbeans.apache.org
>> > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee
>> > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018
>> >
>> > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
>> >
>>
>
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Re: SceneBuilder integration and update

Posted by Mar R <ma...@gmail.com>.
Jeremy thanks for the info for but that wasn't my problem, I used SB in the
past.
So if SB isn't integrated in NB, what's that GUI editor?
Because I'm on a fresh system install, and this time I haven't downloaded
SB not any plugins, I don't even have JavaFX installed nor activated it
through the Tools > Options > Java > JavaFX

Attached there's a screenshot of the GUI editor I'm talking about, on a
file from a NB source module

Il giorno dom 9 mag 2021 alle ore 21:11 Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> ha scritto:

> Would be great, yes.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 20:57, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If there is enough interest, I can donate the code to Apache NetBeans so
> we
> > can work on this as a community.
> >
> > Just let me know
> >
> > Sven
> >
> > P.S. The major problems for now 1. javafx can not be distributed via
> Apache
> > Binaries (so we need to build this using an auto download at runtime) 2.
> > Persistent backend storage... and XML-Editor...
> >
> > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:31 AM John Kostaras <jk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > There is this attempt <https://github.com/svenreimers/nbscenebuilder>
> to
> > > integrate it with NetBeans.
> > >
> > > On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 09:12, Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > While browsing some module from NetBeans source a file opened in
> design
> > > > view, I premused it was SB embedded, but maybe NB has another GUI
> > editor
> > > I
> > > > don't know of
> > > >
> > > > Il giorno ven 7 mag 2021 alle ore 18:44 Scott Palmer <
> > swpalmer@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > > Since when has NetBeans embedded SceneBuilder?  I've always had to
> > > > install
> > > > > it separately.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:34 AM Mar R <ma...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I was wondering if there is a particular reason about the
> > > SceneBuilder
> > > > > > embedded being still a very old version. As far as I could see
> the
> > > > > current
> > > > > > one (version 16) and the one for Java 8 too are under BSD license
> > > which
> > > > > is
> > > > > > compatible with Apache 2.0.
> > > > > > So should it be feasible to update it?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sven Reimers
> >
> > * Java Champion
> > * Apache NetBeans PMC: http://netbeans.apache.org
> > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee
> > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018
> >
> > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
> >
>

Re: SceneBuilder integration and update

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Would be great, yes.

Gj

On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 20:57, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If there is enough interest, I can donate the code to Apache NetBeans so we
> can work on this as a community.
>
> Just let me know
>
> Sven
>
> P.S. The major problems for now 1. javafx can not be distributed via Apache
> Binaries (so we need to build this using an auto download at runtime) 2.
> Persistent backend storage... and XML-Editor...
>
> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:31 AM John Kostaras <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There is this attempt <https://github.com/svenreimers/nbscenebuilder> to
> > integrate it with NetBeans.
> >
> > On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 09:12, Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > While browsing some module from NetBeans source a file opened in design
> > > view, I premused it was SB embedded, but maybe NB has another GUI
> editor
> > I
> > > don't know of
> > >
> > > Il giorno ven 7 mag 2021 alle ore 18:44 Scott Palmer <
> swpalmer@gmail.com
> > >
> > > ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > Since when has NetBeans embedded SceneBuilder?  I've always had to
> > > install
> > > > it separately.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:34 AM Mar R <ma...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I was wondering if there is a particular reason about the
> > SceneBuilder
> > > > > embedded being still a very old version. As far as I could see the
> > > > current
> > > > > one (version 16) and the one for Java 8 too are under BSD license
> > which
> > > > is
> > > > > compatible with Apache 2.0.
> > > > > So should it be feasible to update it?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Sven Reimers
>
> * Java Champion
> * Apache NetBeans PMC: http://netbeans.apache.org
> * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee
> * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018
>
> * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
>

Re: SceneBuilder integration and update

Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
If there is enough interest, I can donate the code to Apache NetBeans so we
can work on this as a community.

Just let me know

Sven

P.S. The major problems for now 1. javafx can not be distributed via Apache
Binaries (so we need to build this using an auto download at runtime) 2.
Persistent backend storage... and XML-Editor...

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:31 AM John Kostaras <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There is this attempt <https://github.com/svenreimers/nbscenebuilder> to
> integrate it with NetBeans.
>
> On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 09:12, Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > While browsing some module from NetBeans source a file opened in design
> > view, I premused it was SB embedded, but maybe NB has another GUI editor
> I
> > don't know of
> >
> > Il giorno ven 7 mag 2021 alle ore 18:44 Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >
> > ha scritto:
> >
> > > Since when has NetBeans embedded SceneBuilder?  I've always had to
> > install
> > > it separately.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:34 AM Mar R <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was wondering if there is a particular reason about the
> SceneBuilder
> > > > embedded being still a very old version. As far as I could see the
> > > current
> > > > one (version 16) and the one for Java 8 too are under BSD license
> which
> > > is
> > > > compatible with Apache 2.0.
> > > > So should it be feasible to update it?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


-- 
Sven Reimers

* Java Champion
* Apache NetBeans PMC: http://netbeans.apache.org
* JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee
* Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018

* LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers

Re: SceneBuilder integration and update

Posted by John Kostaras <jk...@gmail.com>.
There is this attempt <https://github.com/svenreimers/nbscenebuilder> to
integrate it with NetBeans.

On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 09:12, Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> While browsing some module from NetBeans source a file opened in design
> view, I premused it was SB embedded, but maybe NB has another GUI editor I
> don't know of
>
> Il giorno ven 7 mag 2021 alle ore 18:44 Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
> > Since when has NetBeans embedded SceneBuilder?  I've always had to
> install
> > it separately.
> >
> > On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:34 AM Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I was wondering if there is a particular reason about the SceneBuilder
> > > embedded being still a very old version. As far as I could see the
> > current
> > > one (version 16) and the one for Java 8 too are under BSD license which
> > is
> > > compatible with Apache 2.0.
> > > So should it be feasible to update it?
> > >
> >
>

Re: SceneBuilder integration and update

Posted by Mar R <ma...@gmail.com>.
While browsing some module from NetBeans source a file opened in design
view, I premused it was SB embedded, but maybe NB has another GUI editor I
don't know of

Il giorno ven 7 mag 2021 alle ore 18:44 Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Since when has NetBeans embedded SceneBuilder?  I've always had to install
> it separately.
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:34 AM Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if there is a particular reason about the SceneBuilder
> > embedded being still a very old version. As far as I could see the
> current
> > one (version 16) and the one for Java 8 too are under BSD license which
> is
> > compatible with Apache 2.0.
> > So should it be feasible to update it?
> >
>

Re: SceneBuilder integration and update

Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
Since when has NetBeans embedded SceneBuilder?  I've always had to install
it separately.

On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:34 AM Mar R <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was wondering if there is a particular reason about the SceneBuilder
> embedded being still a very old version. As far as I could see the current
> one (version 16) and the one for Java 8 too are under BSD license which is
> compatible with Apache 2.0.
> So should it be feasible to update it?
>