[opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[todd tredeau <to...@wisernet.com>]

I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long 
as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input... 
There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great 
programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.

1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.

Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in 
the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or 
fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...

Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is 
what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep 
in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a 
debate..

I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am 
willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you?

    Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the 
program changes to much and
    too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..

    Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
            date content starts
            date content stops
            content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing 
packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version 
of one) End Users can't do it.

    Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really 
cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps 
further.. who is up to the challenge?

    To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x 
7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.

Lets have fun

todd
waiting to work with programmers

Frans Thamura wrote:

>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the source
>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit crowded..
>
>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
>
>my solution is for executive information system..
>
>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a lot
>of BIG QUESTION...
>
>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
>
>Frans
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>
>
>>Hi Frans,
>>
>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
>>
>>-- haresh
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
>>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>
>>
>>Hi haresh,
>>
>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not mission
>>>critical one ?)
>>>
>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i
>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
>>portlet/psml
>>
>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
>>problem, slow...
>>
>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called cockpit
>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
>>
>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
>>>
>>specified
>>
>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
>>>
>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
>>
>>>3. Has anyone implemented
>>>
>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
>>>portal...)
>>>
>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
>>
>single
>
>>login problem
>>
>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed
>>>sites?
>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
>>>
>different
>
>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
>>>
>content
>
>>>published in the corresponding sections.
>>>
>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think
>>>
>>can
>>
>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
>>>
>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
>>>
>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
>>
>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
>>
>role
>
>>based portlet.
>>
>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
>>
>implement
>
>>this..
>>
>>
>>have a nice try..
>>
>>Frans
>>
>>>regards
>>>
>>>Haresh
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[gilles Duchamp <gd...@zurban.com>]

merci Raphael de ton opinion sur Zurban.com    ;-)
alors on se voit un de ces jours ?
a+
    Gilles

----- Original Message -----
From: <ra...@networks.groupvu.com>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready


> A nice production Jetspeed site is http://www.zurban.com/ (online Paris
city
> entertainment guide, there's also a paper edition a la TimeOut).
>
> Haresh Gujarathi wrote:
>
> > Hi Todd,
> >
> > Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
> > momentum.
> >
> > But I will say u are not getting my point.
> >
> > This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to
find
> > out if
> > a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
> > b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by
companies
> > like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
> >
> > Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and
later
> > figure out that the product is too immature.
> > That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
> > sensible sites on net.
> >
> > I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back
your
> > another posting,
> > I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
> > http://portal.wiserlabz.com
> > I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I
do
> > not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to
assure
> > community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
> >
> > Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any
meaningful
> > deployment of jetspeed.
> > That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
> > today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
> >
> > I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully
used
> > today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please
correct me
> > if anybody things that way.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Haresh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
> > To: Jetspeed Users List
> > Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
> >
> >
> > I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
> > as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
> > There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
> > programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
> >
> > 1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
> > 2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
> > 3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
> >
> > Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
> > the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
> > fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
> >
> > Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
> > what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
> > in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
> > debate..
> >
> > I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
> > willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are
you?
> >
> >     Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
> > program changes to much and
> >     too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
> >
> >     Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
> >             date content starts
> >             date content stops
> >             content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
> > packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
> > of one) End Users can't do it.
> >
> >     Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
> > cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
> > further.. who is up to the challenge?
> >
> >     To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
> > 7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
> >
> > Lets have fun
> >
> > todd
> > waiting to work with programmers
> >
> > Frans Thamura wrote:
> >
> >
> >>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the
source
> >>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit
crowded..
> >>
> >>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
> >>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
> >>
> >>my solution is for executive information system..
> >>
> >>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a
lot
> >>of BIG QUESTION...
> >>
> >>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
> >>
> >>Frans
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
> >>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
> >>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Frans,
> >>>
> >>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
> >>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
> >>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
> >>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
> >>>
> >>>-- haresh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
> >>>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
> >>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Hi haresh,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not
mission
> >>>>critical one ?)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder,
i
> >>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
> >>>portlet/psml
> >>>
> >>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
> >>>problem, slow...
> >>>
> >>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called
cockpit
> >>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>specified
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>3. Has anyone implemented
> >>>>
> >>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
> >>>>portal...)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
> >>>
> >>>
> >>single
> >>
> >>
> >>>login problem
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the
Jetspeed
> >>>>sites?
> >>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>different
> >>
> >>
> >>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
> >>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>content
> >>
> >>
> >>>>published in the corresponding sections.
> >>>>
> >>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I
think
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>can
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
> >>>>
> >>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
> >>>
> >>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>role
> >>
> >>
> >>>based portlet.
> >>>
> >>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
> >>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>implement
> >>
> >>
> >>>this..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>have a nice try..
> >>>
> >>>Frans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>regards
> >>>>
> >>>>Haresh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>_________________________________________________________ Do You
Yahoo!?
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Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[ra...@networks.groupvu.com]

A nice production Jetspeed site is http://www.zurban.com/ (online Paris city
entertainment guide, there's also a paper edition a la TimeOut).

Haresh Gujarathi wrote:

> Hi Todd,
> 
> Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
> momentum.
> 
> But I will say u are not getting my point.
> 
> This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to find
> out if
> a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
> b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by companies
> like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
> 
> Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and later
> figure out that the product is too immature.
> That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
> sensible sites on net.
> 
> I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back your
> another posting,
> I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
> http://portal.wiserlabz.com
> I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I do
> not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to assure
> community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
> 
> Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any meaningful
> deployment of jetspeed.
> That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
> today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
> 
> I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully used
> today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct me
> if anybody things that way.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Haresh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
> 
> 
> I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
> as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
> There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
> programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
> 
> 1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
> 2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
> 3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
> 
> Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
> the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
> fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
> 
> Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
> what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
> in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
> debate..
> 
> I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
> willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you?
> 
>     Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
> program changes to much and
>     too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
> 
>     Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
>             date content starts
>             date content stops
>             content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
> packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
> of one) End Users can't do it.
> 
>     Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
> cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
> further.. who is up to the challenge?
> 
>     To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
> 7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
> 
> Lets have fun
> 
> todd
> waiting to work with programmers
> 
> Frans Thamura wrote:
> 
> 
>>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the source
>>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit crowded..
>>
>>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
>>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
>>
>>my solution is for executive information system..
>>
>>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a lot
>>of BIG QUESTION...
>>
>>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
>>
>>Frans
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
>>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
>>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi Frans,
>>>
>>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
>>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
>>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
>>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
>>>
>>>-- haresh
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
>>>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
>>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi haresh,
>>>
>>>
>>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not mission
>>>>critical one ?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i
>>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
>>>portlet/psml
>>>
>>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
>>>problem, slow...
>>>
>>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called cockpit
>>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
>>>
>>>
>>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
>>>>
>>>>
>>>specified
>>>
>>>
>>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
>>>
>>>
>>>>3. Has anyone implemented
>>>>
>>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
>>>>portal...)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
>>>
>>>
>>single
>>
>>
>>>login problem
>>>
>>>
>>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed
>>>>sites?
>>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
>>>>
>>>>
>>different
>>
>>
>>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
>>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
>>>>
>>>>
>>content
>>
>>
>>>>published in the corresponding sections.
>>>>
>>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think
>>>>
>>>>
>>>can
>>>
>>>
>>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
>>>>
>>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
>>>
>>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
>>>
>>>
>>role
>>
>>
>>>based portlet.
>>>
>>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
>>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
>>>
>>>
>>implement
>>
>>
>>>this..
>>>
>>>
>>>have a nice try..
>>>
>>>Frans
>>>
>>>
>>>>regards
>>>>
>>>>Haresh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?
>>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[Brendan O'Bra <pv...@hotmail.com>]

Glad you like it, I was actually a bit embarrased, as it (my customization)
could use some polish.

No real ISP stuff, aside from the integration of Webmail and community
content feeds.  I certainly look forward to the day when I actually have
something that is worth giving back :)  I still have alot of work to do.

>>Brendan
----- Original Message -----
From: "todd tredeau" <to...@wisernet.com>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready


> NICE... REALLY Nice.. what sort of "isp" related jetspeed stuff have you
> done....anything we can use??
>
> todd
>
>
> Brendan O'Bra wrote:
>
> >Ok... I'll jump in from deep lurker mode to "defend" jetspeed, as it has
> >served me well thus far...
> >
> >I use jetspeed on my website (I'm an ISP).  We are 100% open source,
linux,
> >tomcat, jetspeed.
> >
> >http://www.pvbb.net
> >
> >So far, jetspeed has been very flexible and we are happy with it.  I will
> >say that the fact that I am a java developer has made it easy to work
with.
> >
> >>>Brendan
> >>>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
> >To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:13 AM
> >Subject: RE: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
> >
> >
> >>Hi Todd,
> >>
> >>Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
> >>momentum.
> >>
> >>But I will say u are not getting my point.
> >>
> >>This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to
> >>
> >find
> >
> >>out if
> >>a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
> >>b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by
> >>
> >companies
> >
> >>like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
> >>
> >>Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and
> >>
> >later
> >
> >>figure out that the product is too immature.
> >>That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
> >>sensible sites on net.
> >>
> >>I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back
> >>
> >your
> >
> >>another posting,
> >>I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
> >>http://portal.wiserlabz.com
> >>I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I
> >>
> >do
> >
> >>not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to
> >>
> >assure
> >
> >>community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
> >>
> >>Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any
> >>
> >meaningful
> >
> >>deployment of jetspeed.
> >>That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
> >>today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
> >>
> >>I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully
> >>
> >used
> >
> >>today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please
correct
> >>
> >me
> >
> >>if anybody things that way.
> >>
> >>regards,
> >>
> >>Haresh
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
> >>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
> >>To: Jetspeed Users List
> >>Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
> >>
> >>
> >>I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
> >>as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
> >>There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
> >>programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
> >>
> >>1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
> >>2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
> >>3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
> >>
> >>Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
> >>the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
> >>fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
> >>
> >>Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
> >>what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
> >>in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
> >>debate..
> >>
> >>I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
> >>willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are
you?
> >>
> >>    Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
> >>program changes to much and
> >>    too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
> >>
> >>    Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
> >>            date content starts
> >>            date content stops
> >>            content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
> >>packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
> >>of one) End Users can't do it.
> >>
> >>    Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
> >>cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
> >>further.. who is up to the challenge?
> >>
> >>    To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
> >>7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
> >>
> >>Lets have fun
> >>
> >>todd
> >>waiting to work with programmers
> >>
> >>Frans Thamura wrote:
> >>
> >>>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the
> >>>
> >source
> >
> >>>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit
> >>>
> >crowded..
> >
> >>>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
> >>>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
> >>>
> >>>my solution is for executive information system..
> >>>
> >>>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a
> >>>
> >lot
> >
> >>>of BIG QUESTION...
> >>>
> >>>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
> >>>
> >>>Frans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
> >>>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
> >>>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Frans,
> >>>>
> >>>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
> >>>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
> >>>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
> >>>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
> >>>>
> >>>>-- haresh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
> >>>>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
> >>>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi haresh,
> >>>>
> >>>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not
> >>>>>
> >mission
> >
> >>>>>critical one ?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder,
i
> >>>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
> >>>>portlet/psml
> >>>>
> >>>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
> >>>>problem, slow...
> >>>>
> >>>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called
> >>>>
> >cockpit
> >
> >>>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
> >>>>
> >>>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
> >>>>>
> >>>>specified
> >>>>
> >>>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
> >>>>>
> >>>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
> >>>>
> >>>>>3. Has anyone implemented
> >>>>>
> >>>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
> >>>>>portal...)
> >>>>>
> >>>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
> >>>>
> >>>single
> >>>
> >>>>login problem
> >>>>
> >>>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the
Jetspeed
> >>>>>sites?
> >>>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
> >>>>>
> >>>different
> >>>
> >>>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
> >>>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
> >>>>>
> >>>content
> >>>
> >>>>>published in the corresponding sections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I
think
> >>>>>
> >>>>can
> >>>>
> >>>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
> >>>>>
> >>>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
> >>>>
> >>>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
> >>>>
> >>>role
> >>>
> >>>>based portlet.
> >>>>
> >>>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
> >>>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
> >>>>
> >>>implement
> >>>
> >>>>this..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>have a nice try..
> >>>>
> >>>>Frans
> >>>>
> >>>>>regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Haresh
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>_________________________________________________________ Do You
> >>>>
> >Yahoo!?
> >
> >>>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> >>>>--
> >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>>>For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>--
> >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>>For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>>
> >>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>_________________________________________________________
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[todd tredeau <to...@wisernet.com>]

NICE... REALLY Nice.. what sort of "isp" related jetspeed stuff have you 
done....anything we can use??

todd


Brendan O'Bra wrote:

>Ok... I'll jump in from deep lurker mode to "defend" jetspeed, as it has
>served me well thus far...
>
>I use jetspeed on my website (I'm an ISP).  We are 100% open source, linux,
>tomcat, jetspeed.
>
>http://www.pvbb.net
>
>So far, jetspeed has been very flexible and we are happy with it.  I will
>say that the fact that I am a java developer has made it easy to work with.
>
>>>Brendan
>>>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:13 AM
>Subject: RE: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
>
>
>>Hi Todd,
>>
>>Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
>>momentum.
>>
>>But I will say u are not getting my point.
>>
>>This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to
>>
>find
>
>>out if
>>a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
>>b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by
>>
>companies
>
>>like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
>>
>>Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and
>>
>later
>
>>figure out that the product is too immature.
>>That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
>>sensible sites on net.
>>
>>I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back
>>
>your
>
>>another posting,
>>I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
>>http://portal.wiserlabz.com
>>I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I
>>
>do
>
>>not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to
>>
>assure
>
>>community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
>>
>>Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any
>>
>meaningful
>
>>deployment of jetspeed.
>>That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
>>today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
>>
>>I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully
>>
>used
>
>>today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct
>>
>me
>
>>if anybody things that way.
>>
>>regards,
>>
>>Haresh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
>>To: Jetspeed Users List
>>Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
>>
>>
>>I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
>>as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
>>There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
>>programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
>>
>>1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
>>2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
>>3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
>>
>>Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
>>the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
>>fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
>>
>>Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
>>what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
>>in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
>>debate..
>>
>>I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
>>willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you?
>>
>>    Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
>>program changes to much and
>>    too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
>>
>>    Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
>>            date content starts
>>            date content stops
>>            content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
>>packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
>>of one) End Users can't do it.
>>
>>    Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
>>cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
>>further.. who is up to the challenge?
>>
>>    To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
>>7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
>>
>>Lets have fun
>>
>>todd
>>waiting to work with programmers
>>
>>Frans Thamura wrote:
>>
>>>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the
>>>
>source
>
>>>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit
>>>
>crowded..
>
>>>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
>>>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
>>>
>>>my solution is for executive information system..
>>>
>>>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a
>>>
>lot
>
>>>of BIG QUESTION...
>>>
>>>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
>>>
>>>Frans
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
>>>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
>>>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Frans,
>>>>
>>>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
>>>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
>>>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
>>>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
>>>>
>>>>-- haresh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
>>>>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
>>>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi haresh,
>>>>
>>>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not
>>>>>
>mission
>
>>>>>critical one ?)
>>>>>
>>>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i
>>>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
>>>>portlet/psml
>>>>
>>>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
>>>>problem, slow...
>>>>
>>>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called
>>>>
>cockpit
>
>>>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
>>>>
>>>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
>>>>>
>>>>specified
>>>>
>>>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
>>>>>
>>>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
>>>>
>>>>>3. Has anyone implemented
>>>>>
>>>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
>>>>>portal...)
>>>>>
>>>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
>>>>
>>>single
>>>
>>>>login problem
>>>>
>>>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed
>>>>>sites?
>>>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
>>>>>
>>>different
>>>
>>>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
>>>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
>>>>>
>>>content
>>>
>>>>>published in the corresponding sections.
>>>>>
>>>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think
>>>>>
>>>>can
>>>>
>>>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
>>>>>
>>>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
>>>>>
>>>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
>>>>
>>>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
>>>>
>>>role
>>>
>>>>based portlet.
>>>>
>>>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
>>>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
>>>>
>>>implement
>>>
>>>>this..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>have a nice try..
>>>>
>>>>Frans
>>>>
>>>>>regards
>>>>>
>>>>>Haresh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>_________________________________________________________ Do You
>>>>
>Yahoo!?
>
>>>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>>>>--
>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>>>For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>>
>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>>
>>>>For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>>
>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>Do You Yahoo!?
>>>
>>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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AW: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[Norman Schöneich <sc...@contentmedia.de>]

Hi,

we deployed a website based on Jetspeed at

http://www.igefa.de

For more information, contact us please.

Norman Schöneich

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Brendan O'Bra [mailto:pvbb_lists@hotmail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2002 19:40
An: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
Betreff: Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready


Ok... I'll jump in from deep lurker mode to "defend" jetspeed, as it has
served me well thus far...

I use jetspeed on my website (I'm an ISP).  We are 100% open source, linux,
tomcat, jetspeed.

http://www.pvbb.net

So far, jetspeed has been very flexible and we are happy with it.  I will
say that the fact that I am a java developer has made it easy to work with.

>>Brendan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready


> Hi Todd,
>
> Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
> momentum.
>
> But I will say u are not getting my point.
>
> This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to
find
> out if
> a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
> b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by
companies
> like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
>
> Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and
later
> figure out that the product is too immature.
> That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
> sensible sites on net.
>
> I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back
your
> another posting,
> I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
> http://portal.wiserlabz.com
> I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I
do
> not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to
assure
> community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
>
> Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any
meaningful
> deployment of jetspeed.
> That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
> today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
>
> I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully
used
> today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct
me
> if anybody things that way.
>
> regards,
>
> Haresh
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
>
>
> I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
> as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
> There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
> programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
>
> 1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
> 2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
> 3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
>
> Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
> the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
> fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
>
> Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
> what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
> in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
> debate..
>
> I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
> willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you?
>
>     Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
> program changes to much and
>     too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
>
>     Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
>             date content starts
>             date content stops
>             content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
> packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
> of one) End Users can't do it.
>
>     Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
> cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
> further.. who is up to the challenge?
>
>     To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
> 7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
>
> Lets have fun
>
> todd
> waiting to work with programmers
>
> Frans Thamura wrote:
>
> >No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the
source
> >is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit
crowded..
> >
> >There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
> >popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
> >
> >my solution is for executive information system..
> >
> >sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a
lot
> >of BIG QUESTION...
> >
> >so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
> >
> >Frans
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
> >To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
> >Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >
> >
> >>Hi Frans,
> >>
> >>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
> >>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
> >>companies, have you found any other alternative?
> >>(cheaper preferrably) ?
> >>
> >>-- haresh
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
> >>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
> >>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi haresh,
> >>
> >>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not
mission
> >>>critical one ?)
> >>>
> >>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i
> >>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
> >>portlet/psml
> >>
> >>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
> >>problem, slow...
> >>
> >>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called
cockpit
> >>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
> >>
> >>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
> >>>
> >>specified
> >>
> >>>on the Jetspeed home page)
> >>>
> >>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
> >>
> >>>3. Has anyone implemented
> >>>
> >>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
> >>>portal...)
> >>>
> >>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
> >>
> >single
> >
> >>login problem
> >>
> >>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed
> >>>sites?
> >>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
> >>>
> >different
> >
> >>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
> >>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
> >>>
> >content
> >
> >>>published in the corresponding sections.
> >>>
> >>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think
> >>>
> >>can
> >>
> >>>be an integral part of the Portal system
> >>>
> >>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
> >>>
> >>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
> >>
> >>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
> >>
> >role
> >
> >>based portlet.
> >>
> >>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
> >>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
> >>
> >implement
> >
> >>this..
> >>
> >>
> >>have a nice try..
> >>
> >>Frans
> >>
> >>>regards
> >>>
> >>>Haresh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[Brendan O'Bra <pv...@hotmail.com>]

Ok... I'll jump in from deep lurker mode to "defend" jetspeed, as it has
served me well thus far...

I use jetspeed on my website (I'm an ISP).  We are 100% open source, linux,
tomcat, jetspeed.

http://www.pvbb.net

So far, jetspeed has been very flexible and we are happy with it.  I will
say that the fact that I am a java developer has made it easy to work with.

>>Brendan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready


> Hi Todd,
>
> Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
> momentum.
>
> But I will say u are not getting my point.
>
> This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to
find
> out if
> a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
> b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by
companies
> like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
>
> Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and
later
> figure out that the product is too immature.
> That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
> sensible sites on net.
>
> I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back
your
> another posting,
> I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
> http://portal.wiserlabz.com
> I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I
do
> not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to
assure
> community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
>
> Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any
meaningful
> deployment of jetspeed.
> That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
> today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
>
> I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully
used
> today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct
me
> if anybody things that way.
>
> regards,
>
> Haresh
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
>
>
> I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
> as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
> There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
> programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
>
> 1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
> 2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
> 3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
>
> Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
> the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
> fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
>
> Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
> what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
> in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
> debate..
>
> I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
> willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you?
>
>     Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
> program changes to much and
>     too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
>
>     Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
>             date content starts
>             date content stops
>             content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
> packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
> of one) End Users can't do it.
>
>     Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
> cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
> further.. who is up to the challenge?
>
>     To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
> 7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
>
> Lets have fun
>
> todd
> waiting to work with programmers
>
> Frans Thamura wrote:
>
> >No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the
source
> >is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit
crowded..
> >
> >There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
> >popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
> >
> >my solution is for executive information system..
> >
> >sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a
lot
> >of BIG QUESTION...
> >
> >so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
> >
> >Frans
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
> >To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
> >Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >
> >
> >>Hi Frans,
> >>
> >>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
> >>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
> >>companies, have you found any other alternative?
> >>(cheaper preferrably) ?
> >>
> >>-- haresh
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
> >>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
> >>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi haresh,
> >>
> >>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not
mission
> >>>critical one ?)
> >>>
> >>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i
> >>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
> >>portlet/psml
> >>
> >>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
> >>problem, slow...
> >>
> >>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called
cockpit
> >>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
> >>
> >>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
> >>>
> >>specified
> >>
> >>>on the Jetspeed home page)
> >>>
> >>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
> >>
> >>>3. Has anyone implemented
> >>>
> >>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
> >>>portal...)
> >>>
> >>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
> >>
> >single
> >
> >>login problem
> >>
> >>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed
> >>>sites?
> >>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
> >>>
> >different
> >
> >>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
> >>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
> >>>
> >content
> >
> >>>published in the corresponding sections.
> >>>
> >>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think
> >>>
> >>can
> >>
> >>>be an integral part of the Portal system
> >>>
> >>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
> >>>
> >>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
> >>
> >>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
> >>
> >role
> >
> >>based portlet.
> >>
> >>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
> >>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
> >>
> >implement
> >
> >>this..
> >>
> >>
> >>have a nice try..
> >>
> >>Frans
> >>
> >>>regards
> >>>
> >>>Haresh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[Frans Thamura <ft...@yahoo.com>]

Hahaha, Giong Xi Fat Choi every one, wish you all luck, and happy life....

I like that.. i like you...(haha valentine day)..gift from me to
Jetspeed...love argument... (OO)

Cheers..

Frans
----- Original Message -----
From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready


> Hi Todd,
>
> No. I think we should fight. :) Look the kind of replies my mail has
> generated. It is making people to talk and contribute information and site
> addresses.
>
> Fighting is good for Jetspeed :)
>
> Anyway I will again take a look at ur sites and reevaluate them.
>
> Yes, biggest problem I am facing is configuration, documentation.
>
> Let's see the sites being submitted by people.
> One request to all;
> PLEASE ALSO SUBMIT YOUR SITES to the Jetspeed central. so the owners of
the
> project can maintain a consolidated list of working and demoable jetspeed
> websites.
>
> regards
> haresh
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:17 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
>
>
> Hello Haresh..
>             I'm sorry if I missed your point. I agree little has been
> done on the customizing of jetspeed. I have several priorities.. and
> there is only one of me. In fact, the 2 portals are different,
> configuration wise, and addtitionally, content  feeds are added to the
> wiserlabz portal. I wanted to add much more, but I had questions...
> Without a fancy configuration program, it is difficult to customize much
> of this. As I said, it is a work in progress, but it is great.. I like
> it.. I have two portals running on the same server, and have no
> problems.. wisernet portal gets a lot of traffic, as well as other
> things running there, and performance is good.. Now, when I say
> performance is good, that is a pretty general term... For intance today,
> I tested www.link-tool.com 's feed mechanism, which runs on
> jsp/tomcat/apache and ran sustained traffic (calculated to be equal to
> 1000 per minute). In any event I am busy but read this mail. Not Highly
> customized, as I said, tools still need to be written in my opinion, but
> a great product, and folks.. While not "production" end user wise, it's
> production, dealing with any and all traffic that hits it (jetspeed) and
> hopefully performing decently.. which is what I thought your original
> question was. You can basically run the numbers and build machine(s) to
> handle most any load. Also, the question was posed some time ago about
> multiple machines, there are several ways you can load balance jetspeed.
>
> more later... greetings and i'm not fighting with you, just chatting..
>
> todd
>
>
>
> Haresh Gujarathi wrote:
>
> >Hi Todd,
> >
> >Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
> >momentum.
> >
> >But I will say u are not getting my point.
> >
> >This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to
> find
> >out if
> >a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
> >b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by
> companies
> >like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
> >
> >Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and
later
> >figure out that the product is too immature.
> >That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
> >sensible sites on net.
> >
> >I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back
your
> >another posting,
> >I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
> >http://portal.wiserlabz.com
> >I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I
do
> >not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to
assure
> >community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
> >
> >Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any
meaningful
> >deployment of jetspeed.
> >That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
> >today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
> >
> >I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully
used
> >today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct
> me
> >if anybody things that way.
> >
> >regards,
> >
> >Haresh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
> >To: Jetspeed Users List
> >Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
> >
> >
> >I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
> >as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
> >There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
> >programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
> >
> >1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
> >2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
> >3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
> >
> >Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
> >the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
> >fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
> >
> >Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
> >what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
> >in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
> >debate..
> >
> >I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
> >willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are
you?
> >
> >    Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
> >program changes to much and
> >    too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
> >
> >    Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
> >            date content starts
> >            date content stops
> >            content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
> >packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
> >of one) End Users can't do it.
> >
> >    Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
> >cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
> >further.. who is up to the challenge?
> >
> >    To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
> >7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
> >
> >Lets have fun
> >
> >todd
> >waiting to work with programmers
> >
> >Frans Thamura wrote:
> >
> >>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the
source
> >>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit
crowded..
> >>
> >>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
> >>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
> >>
> >>my solution is for executive information system..
> >>
> >>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a
> lot
> >>of BIG QUESTION...
> >>
> >>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
> >>
> >>Frans
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
> >>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
> >>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Frans,
> >>>
> >>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
> >>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
> >>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
> >>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
> >>>
> >>>-- haresh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
> >>>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
> >>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Hi haresh,
> >>>
> >>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not
mission
> >>>>critical one ?)
> >>>>
> >>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder,
i
> >>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
> >>>portlet/psml
> >>>
> >>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
> >>>problem, slow...
> >>>
> >>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called
cockpit
> >>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
> >>>
> >>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
> >>>>
> >>>specified
> >>>
> >>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
> >>>>
> >>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
> >>>
> >>>>3. Has anyone implemented
> >>>>
> >>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
> >>>>portal...)
> >>>>
> >>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
> >>>
> >>single
> >>
> >>>login problem
> >>>
> >>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the
Jetspeed
> >>>>sites?
> >>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
> >>>>
> >>different
> >>
> >>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
> >>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
> >>>>
> >>content
> >>
> >>>>published in the corresponding sections.
> >>>>
> >>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I
think
> >>>>
> >>>can
> >>>
> >>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
> >>>>
> >>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
> >>>>
> >>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
> >>>
> >>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
> >>>
> >>role
> >>
> >>>based portlet.
> >>>
> >>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
> >>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
> >>>
> >>implement
> >>
> >>>this..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>have a nice try..
> >>>
> >>>Frans
> >>>
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RE: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[Haresh Gujarathi <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>]

Hi Todd,

No. I think we should fight. :) Look the kind of replies my mail has
generated. It is making people to talk and contribute information and site
addresses.

Fighting is good for Jetspeed :)

Anyway I will again take a look at ur sites and reevaluate them.

Yes, biggest problem I am facing is configuration, documentation.

Let's see the sites being submitted by people.
One request to all;
PLEASE ALSO SUBMIT YOUR SITES to the Jetspeed central. so the owners of the
project can maintain a consolidated list of working and demoable jetspeed
websites.

regards
haresh


-----Original Message-----
From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:17 AM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready


Hello Haresh..
            I'm sorry if I missed your point. I agree little has been
done on the customizing of jetspeed. I have several priorities.. and
there is only one of me. In fact, the 2 portals are different,
configuration wise, and addtitionally, content  feeds are added to the
wiserlabz portal. I wanted to add much more, but I had questions...
Without a fancy configuration program, it is difficult to customize much
of this. As I said, it is a work in progress, but it is great.. I like
it.. I have two portals running on the same server, and have no
problems.. wisernet portal gets a lot of traffic, as well as other
things running there, and performance is good.. Now, when I say
performance is good, that is a pretty general term... For intance today,
I tested www.link-tool.com 's feed mechanism, which runs on
jsp/tomcat/apache and ran sustained traffic (calculated to be equal to
1000 per minute). In any event I am busy but read this mail. Not Highly
customized, as I said, tools still need to be written in my opinion, but
a great product, and folks.. While not "production" end user wise, it's
production, dealing with any and all traffic that hits it (jetspeed) and
hopefully performing decently.. which is what I thought your original
question was. You can basically run the numbers and build machine(s) to
handle most any load. Also, the question was posed some time ago about
multiple machines, there are several ways you can load balance jetspeed.

more later... greetings and i'm not fighting with you, just chatting..

todd



Haresh Gujarathi wrote:

>Hi Todd,
>
>Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
>momentum.
>
>But I will say u are not getting my point.
>
>This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to
find
>out if
>a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
>b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by
companies
>like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
>
>Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and later
>figure out that the product is too immature.
>That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
>sensible sites on net.
>
>I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back your
>another posting,
>I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
>http://portal.wiserlabz.com
>I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I do
>not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to assure
>community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
>
>Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any meaningful
>deployment of jetspeed.
>That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
>today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
>
>I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully used
>today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct
me
>if anybody things that way.
>
>regards,
>
>Haresh
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
>To: Jetspeed Users List
>Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
>
>
>I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
>as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
>There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
>programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
>
>1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
>2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
>3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
>
>Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
>the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
>fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
>
>Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
>what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
>in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
>debate..
>
>I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
>willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you?
>
>    Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
>program changes to much and
>    too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
>
>    Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
>            date content starts
>            date content stops
>            content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
>packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
>of one) End Users can't do it.
>
>    Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
>cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
>further.. who is up to the challenge?
>
>    To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
>7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
>
>Lets have fun
>
>todd
>waiting to work with programmers
>
>Frans Thamura wrote:
>
>>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the source
>>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit crowded..
>>
>>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
>>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
>>
>>my solution is for executive information system..
>>
>>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a
lot
>>of BIG QUESTION...
>>
>>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
>>
>>Frans
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
>>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
>>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>
>>
>>>Hi Frans,
>>>
>>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
>>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
>>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
>>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
>>>
>>>-- haresh
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
>>>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
>>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi haresh,
>>>
>>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not mission
>>>>critical one ?)
>>>>
>>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i
>>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
>>>portlet/psml
>>>
>>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
>>>problem, slow...
>>>
>>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called cockpit
>>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
>>>
>>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
>>>>
>>>specified
>>>
>>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
>>>>
>>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
>>>
>>>>3. Has anyone implemented
>>>>
>>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
>>>>portal...)
>>>>
>>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
>>>
>>single
>>
>>>login problem
>>>
>>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed
>>>>sites?
>>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
>>>>
>>different
>>
>>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
>>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
>>>>
>>content
>>
>>>>published in the corresponding sections.
>>>>
>>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think
>>>>
>>>can
>>>
>>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
>>>>
>>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
>>>>
>>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
>>>
>>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
>>>
>>role
>>
>>>based portlet.
>>>
>>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
>>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
>>>
>>implement
>>
>>>this..
>>>
>>>
>>>have a nice try..
>>>
>>>Frans
>>>
>>>>regards
>>>>
>>>>Haresh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?
>>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>>>--
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Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[todd tredeau <to...@wisernet.com>]

Hello Haresh..
            I'm sorry if I missed your point. I agree little has been 
done on the customizing of jetspeed. I have several priorities.. and 
there is only one of me. In fact, the 2 portals are different, 
configuration wise, and addtitionally, content  feeds are added to the 
wiserlabz portal. I wanted to add much more, but I had questions... 
Without a fancy configuration program, it is difficult to customize much 
of this. As I said, it is a work in progress, but it is great.. I like 
it.. I have two portals running on the same server, and have no 
problems.. wisernet portal gets a lot of traffic, as well as other 
things running there, and performance is good.. Now, when I say 
performance is good, that is a pretty general term... For intance today, 
I tested www.link-tool.com 's feed mechanism, which runs on 
jsp/tomcat/apache and ran sustained traffic (calculated to be equal to 
1000 per minute). In any event I am busy but read this mail. Not Highly 
customized, as I said, tools still need to be written in my opinion, but 
a great product, and folks.. While not "production" end user wise, it's 
production, dealing with any and all traffic that hits it (jetspeed) and 
hopefully performing decently.. which is what I thought your original 
question was. You can basically run the numbers and build machine(s) to 
handle most any load. Also, the question was posed some time ago about 
multiple machines, there are several ways you can load balance jetspeed.

more later... greetings and i'm not fighting with you, just chatting..

todd



Haresh Gujarathi wrote:

>Hi Todd,
>
>Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
>momentum.
>
>But I will say u are not getting my point.
>
>This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to find
>out if
>a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
>b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by companies
>like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
>
>Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and later
>figure out that the product is too immature.
>That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
>sensible sites on net.
>
>I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back your
>another posting,
>I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
>http://portal.wiserlabz.com
>I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I do
>not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to assure
>community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
>
>Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any meaningful
>deployment of jetspeed.
>That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
>today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
>
>I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully used
>today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct me
>if anybody things that way.
>
>regards,
>
>Haresh
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
>To: Jetspeed Users List
>Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
>
>
>I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
>as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
>There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
>programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
>
>1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
>2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
>3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
>
>Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
>the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
>fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
>
>Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
>what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
>in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
>debate..
>
>I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
>willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you?
>
>    Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
>program changes to much and
>    too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
>
>    Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
>            date content starts
>            date content stops
>            content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
>packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
>of one) End Users can't do it.
>
>    Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
>cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
>further.. who is up to the challenge?
>
>    To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
>7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
>
>Lets have fun
>
>todd
>waiting to work with programmers
>
>Frans Thamura wrote:
>
>>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the source
>>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit crowded..
>>
>>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
>>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
>>
>>my solution is for executive information system..
>>
>>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a lot
>>of BIG QUESTION...
>>
>>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
>>
>>Frans
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
>>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
>>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>
>>
>>>Hi Frans,
>>>
>>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
>>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
>>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
>>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
>>>
>>>-- haresh
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
>>>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
>>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi haresh,
>>>
>>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not mission
>>>>critical one ?)
>>>>
>>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i
>>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
>>>portlet/psml
>>>
>>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
>>>problem, slow...
>>>
>>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called cockpit
>>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
>>>
>>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
>>>>
>>>specified
>>>
>>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
>>>>
>>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
>>>
>>>>3. Has anyone implemented
>>>>
>>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
>>>>portal...)
>>>>
>>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
>>>
>>single
>>
>>>login problem
>>>
>>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed
>>>>sites?
>>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
>>>>
>>different
>>
>>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
>>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
>>>>
>>content
>>
>>>>published in the corresponding sections.
>>>>
>>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think
>>>>
>>>can
>>>
>>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
>>>>
>>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
>>>>
>>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
>>>
>>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
>>>
>>role
>>
>>>based portlet.
>>>
>>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
>>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
>>>
>>implement
>>
>>>this..
>>>
>>>
>>>have a nice try..
>>>
>>>Frans
>>>
>>>>regards
>>>>
>>>>Haresh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?
>>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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RE: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready

[Haresh Gujarathi <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>]

Hi Todd,

Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
momentum.

But I will say u are not getting my point.

This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to find
out if
a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by companies
like mine to deploy business sites for clients.

Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and later
figure out that the product is too immature.
That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
sensible sites on net.

I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back your
another posting,
I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
http://portal.wiserlabz.com
I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I do
not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to assure
community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.

Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any meaningful
deployment of jetspeed.
That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.

I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully used
today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct me
if anybody things that way.

regards,

Haresh





-----Original Message-----
From: todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready


I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.

1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.

Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...

Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
debate..

I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you?

    Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
program changes to much and
    too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..

    Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
            date content starts
            date content stops
            content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
of one) End Users can't do it.

    Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
further.. who is up to the challenge?

    To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.

Lets have fun

todd
waiting to work with programmers

Frans Thamura wrote:

>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the source
>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit crowded..
>
>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
>
>my solution is for executive information system..
>
>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a lot
>of BIG QUESTION...
>
>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
>
>Frans
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <gh...@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>
>
>>Hi Frans,
>>
>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
>>
>>-- haresh
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fth4mura@yahoo.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
>>To: Jetspeed Users List; gharesh@pn2.vsnl.net.in
>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>
>>
>>Hi haresh,
>>
>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not mission
>>>critical one ?)
>>>
>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i
>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
>>portlet/psml
>>
>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
>>problem, slow...
>>
>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called cockpit
>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
>>
>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
>>>
>>specified
>>
>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
>>>
>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
>>
>>>3. Has anyone implemented
>>>
>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
>>>portal...)
>>>
>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
>>
>single
>
>>login problem
>>
>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed
>>>sites?
>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
>>>
>different
>
>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
>>>
>content
>
>>>published in the corresponding sections.
>>>
>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think
>>>
>>can
>>
>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
>>>
>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
>>>
>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
>>
>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
>>
>role
>
>>based portlet.
>>
>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
>>
>implement
>
>>this..
>>
>>
>>have a nice try..
>>
>>Frans
>>
>>>regards
>>>
>>>Haresh
>>>
>>>
>>>
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