DIGEX

[jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>]

Spam really did come from 164.109.26.27. Is DigiEx not marked in any
of the BLs around?
{^_^}

Re: DIGEX

[Matt Kettler <mk...@comcast.net>]

At 12:10 AM 1/19/2005, jdow wrote:
>I got a spam for an Acura dealer in Houston Tx from them.
>
>They are not going to get ANY mail into my mailbox as a result.
>The tone of their mail also indicated that they are arrogant pieces
>of dog droppings. If Digex appears in the email they are boosted
>to a rather high number. They are NOT well behaved.

Hmm, well, have you reported the incident to digex? Have you reported it to 
honda? or are you too upset to handle a simple issue simply?

If you've not reported to digex, then how can you know how well behaved 
digex is?

Even the most adamant anti-spam ISP can have a bad customer. What 
differentiates good ISP from bad is how they handle the abuse reports. (ie: 
which goes to /dev/null, your email, or the offending customer account? Do 
they at least offer to mediate the dispute and contact them?)

  ie, take your ISP, earthlink. I get quite a few spams from earthlink 
nodes. However, they rapidly disconnect spammers. I don't blocklist 
earthlink for this reason.

Also, it's not just an accura dealer that sent you that email, that would 
appear to be a mailhub for all of honda's marketing. I got one from Honda 
about 2 years ago via a different host (I am a Honda owner). I told them to 
get lost and they did. Never heard from 'em again. Are you sure you're not 
over-reacting here? Are you certain you've never dropped that email address 
to them? (That includes "business card in the fishbowl" situations... Those 
"raffles" come at a cost of marketing and they make no claims to the contrary)

That said, I'd love to know how Digex and/or Honda handles your complaint. 
It's always important to know which ISPs are responsive and which aren't.

Re: DIGEX

[jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>]

I got a spam for an Acura dealer in Houston Tx from them.

They are not going to get ANY mail into my mailbox as a result.
The tone of their mail also indicated that they are arrogant pieces
of dog droppings. If Digex appears in the email they are boosted
to a rather high number. They are NOT well behaved.

{^_^}
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Kettler" <mk...@evi-inc.com>

> At 02:42 AM 1/18/2005, jdow wrote:
> >Spam really did come from 164.109.26.27. Is DigiEx not marked in any
> >of the BLs around?
>
> Why would digex be listed? AFAIK they are an fairly well behaved nowdays.
I
> mean, sure they were notorious in the 1990's, but recently?
>
> No listing in any blacklists:
> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=164.109.26.27
>
> No matches for that IP in google groups:
> http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=164.109.26.27
>
> No digex zone at blackholes.us:
>          http://www.blackholes.us/
>
> However the hostname does reflect that this is honda's marketing listserv:
>          Host name: ebizmail.honda.com
>          IP address: 164.109.26.27
>          Alias(es): None
>
> The only SBL entries for the whole digex ISP are:
> <http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL22573>SBL22573  and
> <http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL17550>SBL17550 , both of
> which are single IP listings related to them hosting gevalia's main
> website. Spamhaus claims they contract out spam runs to folks like Eddy
> Marin, but they do not claim that they spam via the digex network.
>
> http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL22573
>
> Digging in google groups on NANAS I really find very few reports on them,
> and all the ones I do find are webhosting complaints, not spamming
complaints.
>
> Although, really, digex is now owned by MCI.. so maybe they've turned back
> downhill...
>
>
>

Re: DIGEX

[Matt Kettler <mk...@evi-inc.com>]

At 02:42 AM 1/18/2005, jdow wrote:
>Spam really did come from 164.109.26.27. Is DigiEx not marked in any
>of the BLs around?

Why would digex be listed? AFAIK they are an fairly well behaved nowdays. I 
mean, sure they were notorious in the 1990's, but recently?

No listing in any blacklists:
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=164.109.26.27

No matches for that IP in google groups:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=164.109.26.27

No digex zone at blackholes.us:
         http://www.blackholes.us/

However the hostname does reflect that this is honda's marketing listserv:
         Host name: ebizmail.honda.com
         IP address: 164.109.26.27
         Alias(es): None

The only SBL entries for the whole digex ISP are: 
<http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL22573>SBL22573  and 
<http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL17550>SBL17550 , both of 
which are single IP listings related to them hosting gevalia's main 
website. Spamhaus claims they contract out spam runs to folks like Eddy 
Marin, but they do not claim that they spam via the digex network.

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL22573

Digging in google groups on NANAS I really find very few reports on them, 
and all the ones I do find are webhosting complaints, not spamming complaints.

Although, really, digex is now owned by MCI.. so maybe they've turned back 
downhill...