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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Norman Breau <no...@normanbreau.com> on 2020/10/14 21:46:28 UTC
Minimum Target SDK
Hi team,
A recent discussion came up about what the minimum Target SDK we should support. Google enforces apps to be built with at least Target SDK 28 (soon to be 29 coming November), but Cordova users may not be publishing to the Google Play store, particularly with enterprise businesses with internal distribution systems.
This is currently not documented and I would like it to be documented because we were close to merging a PR that would make the camera plugin require Target SDK 28. But before I submit a documentation PR I would like some feedback on what our minimum Target SDK should be.
Logically I think it makes the most sense to say that whatever what our Minimum SDK level is should be our minimum supported Target SDK (which is currently 22 for cordova-android@9).
For clarity because terminology here is a little confusion:
Minimum SDK = The minimum supported OS
Target SDK = The SDK level used to compile an app.
Norman Breau
Software Developer
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RE: Minimum Target SDK
Posted by Pieter Van Poyer <Pi...@portofantwerp.com>.
Hi
> Sounds like the stance we are to take is to officially only support
> the cordova default target/compile sdk version (which is currently
> 29). Users can change this if they wish at their own risk.
I think this absolutely a good decision.
This gives the developers the oppurtunity to develop with modern features.
Changing is at their own risk.
If it is easy to give them the possibility to set it lower than the min SDK, we should consider this, I think.
Maybe a warning message should be better, but I think, we should only do an effort if it's not too much work.
There are more important issues IMO, that need more attention. (AndroidX)
Kind regards
Pieter Van Poyer
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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: julio cesar sanchez <jc...@gmail.com>
Verzonden: zondag 18 oktober 2020 13:39
Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org
Onderwerp: Re: Minimum Target SDK
Related to this. Should we allow setting the min SDK lower than the min SDK cordova-android uses?
At the moment it’s not possible, I closed this issue because I thought we didn’t allow it, but if we allow it then should be reopened and fixed
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Fcordova-android%2Fissues%2F1070&data=04%7C01%7CPieter.VanPoyer%40portofantwerp.com%7C313f74b78f3f4255abdf08d8735a7657%7C2337dcc63a214d95bf72da5551a9b048%7C0%7C0%7C637386179661479118%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=B%2BlQQHhsOI%2BOjwgs3ypBDk7BL5N3P%2BFrFm7xxPPhDy4%3D&reserved=0
El jueves, 15 de octubre de 2020, Norman Breau <no...@normanbreau.com>
escribió:
> To recap our hangouts meeting on this topic
>
> Sounds like the stance we are to take is to officially only support
> the cordova default target/compile sdk version (which is currently
> 29). Users can change this if they wish at their own risk.
> Norman Breau
> Software Developer
>
> norman@normanbreau.com (mailto:norman@normanbreau.com)
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbrea
> utek.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7CPieter.VanPoyer%40portofantwerp.com%7C3
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> lHYgH%2BTEkKZCLPph05ZtQSq7MnJAnn1NNxa7I%3D&reserved=0
>
> On Oct 15 2020, at 6:05 am, Pieter Van Poyer <Pieter.VanPoyer@
> portofantwerp.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > I'd like to give my opinion. Because the discussion about the sdk
> version was with me.
> >
> > I don't like to disagree with Norman, but the problem with the
> CameraPlugin was IMO not with the targetSdkVersion. I could lower the
> targetSdkVersion to 22 without any problems.
> >
> > The problem was with the compileSdkVersion.
> > I was not able to use a constant available in android 28
> (Build.VERSION_CODES.P, if I am right), because Norman suggested it
> would be able to compile with android level 22.
> > So I did change it to the numerical 28 .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So IMO, there may be more guidelines About the targetSdkVersion. Not
> > sure about that one. (
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeve
> loper.android.com%2Fguide%2Ftopics%2Fmanifest%2Fuses-&data=04%7C01
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> aG7r2ftww7w%3D&reserved=0
> sdk-element.html#target )
> > About the compileSdkVersion (only support officially the one used
> > for
> cordova-android – 29).
> > With using the latest compileSdkVersion and skipping the previous
> > (now
> 22 – 28), plugin developers can use the features from api 29.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > And for a plugin, this settings must indeed be based on the
> > supported
> cordova (-android) version of that plugin. It must indeed be able to
> run on the defaultMinSdkVersion for the supported cordova-android versions.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Pieter Van Poyer
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: julio cesar sanchez <jc...@gmail.com>
> > Verzonden: donderdag 15 oktober 2020 00:39
> > Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Onderwerp: Re: Minimum Target SDK
> >
> >
> >
> > Despite we allow users to configure the target SDK, I don’t think we
> should allow other than the default on latest cordova-android.
> >
> > By allow I mean on issues, users are free to use whatever they want,
> > but
> if they don’t use latest they should take care of possible problems
> themselves.
> > With that being said, camera plugin requires latest cordova-android,
> > so
> that means target sdk 29.
> >
> > But also we need to have in mind that if the plugin allowed older
> cordova-android versions and we add some code that requires a higher
> sdk than the default on that cordova-android version we should bump
> the dependency to the version that targets that sdk as default.
> >
> > BTW, sdk 29 is already a requirement for new apps since August,
> > November
> is for existing apps.
> >
> > El El mié, 14 oct 2020 a las 23:46, Norman Breau
> > <norman@normanbreau.com
> (mailto:norman@normanbreau.com)>
> > escribió:
> >
> > > Hi team,
> > >
> > > A recent discussion came up about what the minimum Target SDK we
> > > should support. Google enforces apps to be built with at least
> > > Target SDK 28 (soon to be 29 coming November), but Cordova users
> > > may not be publishing to the Google Play store, particularly with
> > > enterprise businesses with internal distribution systems.
> > > This is currently not documented and I would like it to be
> > > documented because we were close to merging a PR that would make
> > > the camera plugin require Target SDK 28. But before I submit a
> > > documentation PR I would like some feedback on what our minimum Target SDK should be.
> > > Logically I think it makes the most sense to say that whatever
> > > what our Minimum SDK level is should be our minimum supported
> > > Target SDK (which is currently 22 for cordova-android@9).
> > > For clarity because terminology here is a little confusion:
> > > Minimum SDK = The minimum supported OS Target SDK = The SDK level
> > > used to compile an app.
> > >
> > > Norman Breau
> > > Software Developer
> > >
> > > norman@normanbreau.com (mailto:norman@normanbreau.com) (
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Re: Minimum Target SDK
Posted by julio cesar sanchez <jc...@gmail.com>.
Related to this. Should we allow setting the min SDK lower than the min SDK
cordova-android uses?
At the moment it’s not possible, I closed this issue because I thought we
didn’t allow it, but if we allow it then should be reopened and fixed
https://github.com/apache/cordova-android/issues/1070
El jueves, 15 de octubre de 2020, Norman Breau <no...@normanbreau.com>
escribió:
> To recap our hangouts meeting on this topic
>
> Sounds like the stance we are to take is to officially only support the
> cordova default target/compile sdk version (which is currently 29). Users
> can change this if they wish at their own risk.
> Norman Breau
> Software Developer
>
> norman@normanbreau.com (mailto:norman@normanbreau.com)
> https://breautek.com
>
> On Oct 15 2020, at 6:05 am, Pieter Van Poyer <Pieter.VanPoyer@
> portofantwerp.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > I'd like to give my opinion. Because the discussion about the sdk
> version was with me.
> >
> > I don't like to disagree with Norman, but the problem with the
> CameraPlugin was IMO not with the targetSdkVersion. I could lower the
> targetSdkVersion to 22 without any problems.
> >
> > The problem was with the compileSdkVersion.
> > I was not able to use a constant available in android 28
> (Build.VERSION_CODES.P, if I am right), because Norman suggested it would
> be able to compile with android level 22.
> > So I did change it to the numerical 28 .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So IMO, there may be more guidelines
> > About the targetSdkVersion. Not sure about that one. (
> https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/uses-
> sdk-element.html#target )
> > About the compileSdkVersion (only support officially the one used for
> cordova-android – 29).
> > With using the latest compileSdkVersion and skipping the previous (now
> 22 – 28), plugin developers can use the features from api 29.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > And for a plugin, this settings must indeed be based on the supported
> cordova (-android) version of that plugin. It must indeed be able to run on
> the defaultMinSdkVersion for the supported cordova-android versions.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Pieter Van Poyer
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: julio cesar sanchez <jc...@gmail.com>
> > Verzonden: donderdag 15 oktober 2020 00:39
> > Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Onderwerp: Re: Minimum Target SDK
> >
> >
> >
> > Despite we allow users to configure the target SDK, I don’t think we
> should allow other than the default on latest cordova-android.
> >
> > By allow I mean on issues, users are free to use whatever they want, but
> if they don’t use latest they should take care of possible problems
> themselves.
> > With that being said, camera plugin requires latest cordova-android, so
> that means target sdk 29.
> >
> > But also we need to have in mind that if the plugin allowed older
> cordova-android versions and we add some code that requires a higher sdk
> than the default on that cordova-android version we should bump the
> dependency to the version that targets that sdk as default.
> >
> > BTW, sdk 29 is already a requirement for new apps since August, November
> is for existing apps.
> >
> > El El mié, 14 oct 2020 a las 23:46, Norman Breau <norman@normanbreau.com
> (mailto:norman@normanbreau.com)>
> > escribió:
> >
> > > Hi team,
> > >
> > > A recent discussion came up about what the minimum Target SDK we
> > > should support. Google enforces apps to be built with at least Target
> > > SDK 28 (soon to be 29 coming November), but Cordova users may not be
> > > publishing to the Google Play store, particularly with enterprise
> > > businesses with internal distribution systems.
> > > This is currently not documented and I would like it to be documented
> > > because we were close to merging a PR that would make the camera
> > > plugin require Target SDK 28. But before I submit a documentation PR I
> > > would like some feedback on what our minimum Target SDK should be.
> > > Logically I think it makes the most sense to say that whatever what
> > > our Minimum SDK level is should be our minimum supported Target SDK
> > > (which is currently 22 for cordova-android@9).
> > > For clarity because terminology here is a little confusion:
> > > Minimum SDK = The minimum supported OS Target SDK = The SDK level used
> > > to compile an app.
> > >
> > > Norman Breau
> > > Software Developer
> > >
> > > norman@normanbreau.com (mailto:norman@normanbreau.com) (
> > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flink
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Re: Minimum Target SDK
Posted by Norman Breau <no...@normanbreau.com>.
To recap our hangouts meeting on this topic
Sounds like the stance we are to take is to officially only support the cordova default target/compile sdk version (which is currently 29). Users can change this if they wish at their own risk.
Norman Breau
Software Developer
norman@normanbreau.com (mailto:norman@normanbreau.com)
https://breautek.com
On Oct 15 2020, at 6:05 am, Pieter Van Poyer <Pi...@portofantwerp.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
> I'd like to give my opinion. Because the discussion about the sdk version was with me.
>
> I don't like to disagree with Norman, but the problem with the CameraPlugin was IMO not with the targetSdkVersion. I could lower the targetSdkVersion to 22 without any problems.
>
> The problem was with the compileSdkVersion.
> I was not able to use a constant available in android 28 (Build.VERSION_CODES.P, if I am right), because Norman suggested it would be able to compile with android level 22.
> So I did change it to the numerical 28 .
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So IMO, there may be more guidelines
> About the targetSdkVersion. Not sure about that one. ( https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/uses-sdk-element.html#target )
> About the compileSdkVersion (only support officially the one used for cordova-android – 29).
> With using the latest compileSdkVersion and skipping the previous (now 22 – 28), plugin developers can use the features from api 29.
>
>
>
>
> And for a plugin, this settings must indeed be based on the supported cordova (-android) version of that plugin. It must indeed be able to run on the defaultMinSdkVersion for the supported cordova-android versions.
>
> Kind regards
> Pieter Van Poyer
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: julio cesar sanchez <jc...@gmail.com>
> Verzonden: donderdag 15 oktober 2020 00:39
> Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Onderwerp: Re: Minimum Target SDK
>
>
>
> Despite we allow users to configure the target SDK, I don’t think we should allow other than the default on latest cordova-android.
>
> By allow I mean on issues, users are free to use whatever they want, but if they don’t use latest they should take care of possible problems themselves.
> With that being said, camera plugin requires latest cordova-android, so that means target sdk 29.
>
> But also we need to have in mind that if the plugin allowed older cordova-android versions and we add some code that requires a higher sdk than the default on that cordova-android version we should bump the dependency to the version that targets that sdk as default.
>
> BTW, sdk 29 is already a requirement for new apps since August, November is for existing apps.
>
> El El mié, 14 oct 2020 a las 23:46, Norman Breau <norman@normanbreau.com (mailto:norman@normanbreau.com)>
> escribió:
>
> > Hi team,
> >
> > A recent discussion came up about what the minimum Target SDK we
> > should support. Google enforces apps to be built with at least Target
> > SDK 28 (soon to be 29 coming November), but Cordova users may not be
> > publishing to the Google Play store, particularly with enterprise
> > businesses with internal distribution systems.
> > This is currently not documented and I would like it to be documented
> > because we were close to merging a PR that would make the camera
> > plugin require Target SDK 28. But before I submit a documentation PR I
> > would like some feedback on what our minimum Target SDK should be.
> > Logically I think it makes the most sense to say that whatever what
> > our Minimum SDK level is should be our minimum supported Target SDK
> > (which is currently 22 for cordova-android@9).
> > For clarity because terminology here is a little confusion:
> > Minimum SDK = The minimum supported OS Target SDK = The SDK level used
> > to compile an app.
> >
> > Norman Breau
> > Software Developer
> >
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RE: Minimum Target SDK
Posted by Pieter Van Poyer <Pi...@portofantwerp.com>.
Hi
I'd like to give my opinion. Because the discussion about the sdk version was with me.
I don't like to disagree with Norman, but the problem with the CameraPlugin was IMO not with the targetSdkVersion. I could lower the targetSdkVersion to 22 without any problems.
The problem was with the compileSdkVersion.
I was not able to use a constant available in android 28 (Build.VERSION_CODES.P, if I am right), because Norman suggested it would be able to compile with android level 22.
So I did change it to the numerical 28 .
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So IMO, there may be more guidelines
1. About the targetSdkVersion. Not sure about that one. ( https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/uses-sdk-element.html#target )
2. About the compileSdkVersion (only support officially the one used for cordova-android – 29).
With using the latest compileSdkVersion and skipping the previous (now 22 – 28), plugin developers can use the features from api 29.
And for a plugin, this settings must indeed be based on the supported cordova (-android) version of that plugin. It must indeed be able to run on the defaultMinSdkVersion for the supported cordova-android versions.
Kind regards
Pieter Van Poyer
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: julio cesar sanchez <jc...@gmail.com>
Verzonden: donderdag 15 oktober 2020 00:39
Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org
Onderwerp: Re: Minimum Target SDK
Despite we allow users to configure the target SDK, I don’t think we should allow other than the default on latest cordova-android.
By allow I mean on issues, users are free to use whatever they want, but if they don’t use latest they should take care of possible problems themselves.
With that being said, camera plugin requires latest cordova-android, so that means target sdk 29.
But also we need to have in mind that if the plugin allowed older cordova-android versions and we add some code that requires a higher sdk than the default on that cordova-android version we should bump the dependency to the version that targets that sdk as default.
BTW, sdk 29 is already a requirement for new apps since August, November is for existing apps.
El El mié, 14 oct 2020 a las 23:46, Norman Breau <no...@normanbreau.com>>
escribió:
> Hi team,
>
> A recent discussion came up about what the minimum Target SDK we
> should support. Google enforces apps to be built with at least Target
> SDK 28 (soon to be 29 coming November), but Cordova users may not be
> publishing to the Google Play store, particularly with enterprise
> businesses with internal distribution systems.
> This is currently not documented and I would like it to be documented
> because we were close to merging a PR that would make the camera
> plugin require Target SDK 28. But before I submit a documentation PR I
> would like some feedback on what our minimum Target SDK should be.
> Logically I think it makes the most sense to say that whatever what
> our Minimum SDK level is should be our minimum supported Target SDK
> (which is currently 22 for cordova-android@9).
> For clarity because terminology here is a little confusion:
> Minimum SDK = The minimum supported OS Target SDK = The SDK level used
> to compile an app.
>
> Norman Breau
> Software Developer
>
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Re: Minimum Target SDK
Posted by julio cesar sanchez <jc...@gmail.com>.
Despite we allow users to configure the target SDK, I don’t think we should
allow other than the default on latest cordova-android.
By allow I mean on issues, users are free to use whatever they want, but if
they don’t use latest they should take care of possible problems themselves.
With that being said, camera plugin requires latest cordova-android, so
that means target sdk 29.
But also we need to have in mind that if the plugin allowed older
cordova-android versions and we add some code that requires a higher sdk
than the default on that cordova-android version we should bump the
dependency to the version that targets that sdk as default.
BTW, sdk 29 is already a requirement for new apps since August, November is
for existing apps.
El El mié, 14 oct 2020 a las 23:46, Norman Breau <no...@normanbreau.com>
escribió:
> Hi team,
>
> A recent discussion came up about what the minimum Target SDK we should
> support. Google enforces apps to be built with at least Target SDK 28 (soon
> to be 29 coming November), but Cordova users may not be publishing to the
> Google Play store, particularly with enterprise businesses with internal
> distribution systems.
> This is currently not documented and I would like it to be documented
> because we were close to merging a PR that would make the camera plugin
> require Target SDK 28. But before I submit a documentation PR I would like
> some feedback on what our minimum Target SDK should be.
> Logically I think it makes the most sense to say that whatever what our
> Minimum SDK level is should be our minimum supported Target SDK (which is
> currently 22 for cordova-android@9).
> For clarity because terminology here is a little confusion:
> Minimum SDK = The minimum supported OS
> Target SDK = The SDK level used to compile an app.
>
> Norman Breau
> Software Developer
>
> norman@normanbreau.com (
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