Tomcat book WAS : RE: ~rant~ Docs, user list, etc.

[Martin van den Bemt <mv...@mvdb.com>]

I tried that in the past, writing a book ;-(( wasn't happy with that, before
I finished, the new version was already there or someone else already
created a book. I'm not a fast writer anyway ;-)) (the first sentence block,
is what I'm suffering of). maby we could all write that book. Everyone has
different experience in different area's and can write on there favorite
subject (also needed for documentation anyway). Why not make it a more
structured effort for this. Maby a n writer with some experience in writing
(?) can do an initial set up of where such a book should end up, to be
actually usefull. This is just an idea and no I'm not volunteering to do
this ;-)). I actually need to do some painting and do something about my
garden now, so I can enjoy the summer and a home which actually looks like a
place where also other people would like to come ;-)).

Mvgr,
Martin "the guy who needs to paint and to mow the lawn" van den Bemt



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Armstrong [mailto:andy@tagish.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:48 PM
> To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ~rant~ Docs, user list, etc.
>
>
> How about a decent book?
>
> Robert Slifka wrote:
> >
> > I've only recently re-subscibed to the user list, but so far, since last
> > summer, the average quality of question seems way down.  I guess it's a
> > testament to Tomcat's increasing popularity.  People think,
> "oh, Tomcat!"
> > then they come here and email to the user list, "How do i install and
> > configure Tomcat?"  I'm sure the committers get this all the
> time, but in
> > 2-3 days of answering questions, I've started to get personal emails as
> > well!
> >
> > Rather than continue to bludgeon people with documentation they
> refuse to
> > read (as one poster writes, "...hence i would like to get your
> ideas rather
> > than just reading through the docs") is there something else that can be
> > done?
> >
> > Maybe more mailing lists than just user?  tomcat-apache, tomcat-install,
> > etc.?
> >
> > Or maybe a configuration validation program that does more than
> just check
> > syntax (a la httpd's)?
> >
> > I'm trying to take some intiative here, but I've been out of
> the loop since
> > Oct 2000 or so =)
> >
> > Thoughts anyone?
> >
> > - r
>
> --
> Andy Armstrong, Tagish
>

Re: Tomcat book WAS : RE: ~rant~ Docs, user list, etc.

[Andy Armstrong <an...@tagish.com>]

Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> 
> I tried that in the past, writing a book ;-(( wasn't happy with that, before
> I finished, the new version was already there or someone else already
> created a book. I'm not a fast writer anyway ;-)) (the first sentence block,
> is what I'm suffering of).

Start in the middle ;-)

> maby we could all write that book. Everyone has
> different experience in different area's and can write on there favorite
> subject (also needed for documentation anyway). Why not make it a more
> structured effort for this. Maby a n writer with some experience in writing
> (?) can do an initial set up of where such a book should end up, to be
> actually usefull. This is just an idea and no I'm not volunteering to do
> this ;-)). I actually need to do some painting and do something about my
> garden now, so I can enjoy the summer and a home which actually looks like a
> place where also other people would like to come ;-)).

-- 
Andy Armstrong, Tagish

Re: Tomcat book WAS : RE: ~rant~ Docs, user list, etc.

[Incze Lajos <in...@mail.matav.hu>]

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 09:04:50PM +0200, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> I tried that in the past, writing a book ;-(( wasn't happy with that, before
> I finished, the new version was already there or someone else already
> created a book. I'm not a fast writer anyway ;-)) (the first sentence block,
> is what I'm suffering of). maby we could all write that book. Everyone has
> different experience in different area's and can write on there favorite
> subject (also needed for documentation anyway). Why not make it a more
> structured effort for this. Maby a n writer with some experience in writing
> (?) can do an initial set up of where such a book should end up, to be
> actually usefull. This is just an idea and no I'm not volunteering to do
> this ;-)). I actually need to do some painting and do something about my
> garden now, so I can enjoy the summer and a home which actually looks like a
> place where also other people would like to come ;-)).
> 
> Mvgr,
> Martin "the guy who needs to paint and to mow the lawn" van den Bemt

In fact, there are some sort of community feedback controled
book writing efforts. The recent one I'm aware is going on
on theserverside.com. The MacPerl book, the Postgres  book
was written entirely in this way and you all probably know
of similar efforts. Tough I don't know how these initiatives
could start.                                          incze

RE: Tomcat book WAS : RE: ~rant~ Docs, user list, etc.

[Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@iktek.com>]

Some guys started something like a book, two months ago :

http://sourceforge.net/projects/tomcatbook

Emmanuel Lecharny, IKTEK
06 08 33 32 61, www.iktek.com <http://www.iktek.com>


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Martin van den Bemt [mailto:mvdb@mvdb.com]
Envoye : jeudi 14 juin 2001 21:05
A : tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Objet : Tomcat book WAS : RE: ~rant~ Docs, user list, etc.


... Why not make it a more structured effort for this. Maby a n writer with
some experience in writing
(?) can do an initial set up of where such a book should end up, to be
actually usefull. This is just an idea and no I'm not volunteering to do
this ;-))....