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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net> on 2005/11/08 14:51:05 UTC

Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

David, could you please retroactively create the tags for 1.3.0-rc1
and 1.3.0-rc2 (per step 12 of releases.txt) ?

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Re: Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

Posted by Jani Averbach <ja...@jaa.iki.fi>.
On 2005-11-08 17:46+0100, David Anderson wrote:
> 
> While we're on the subject, I'm still missing signatures for the rc2 
> tarballs. Specifically, I have the following signatures, which I've 
> verified:
>  - 2 6-way validations on the unix nodeps *balls (lundblad, cmpilato)
>  - 2 6-way validations on the full unix *balls (lundblad, kfogel)

I did my normal release testing for the tarball, but I got errors
during testing ra_svn, which are probably related to my test setup,
and then I got sidetracked and couldn't dig out what was causing those
errors.  If you like I can take a look in to this later this evening.

BR, Jani

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Re: Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

Posted by David Anderson <da...@calixo.net>.
C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> David, could you please retroactively create the tags for 1.3.0-rc1
> and 1.3.0-rc2 (per step 12 of releases.txt) ?

Apologies, I thought that the tagging was done once the commiter 
signatures were all provided and the rc was made public.  As rc1 was 
scrapped before getting there, I didn't tag.  Is this still the 
consensus, or should I tag as soon as stuff is released to the dev list?

While we're on the subject, I'm still missing signatures for the rc2 
tarballs. Specifically, I have the following signatures, which I've 
verified:
  - 2 6-way validations on the unix nodeps *balls (lundblad, cmpilato)
  - 2 6-way validations on the full unix *balls (lundblad, kfogel)

If my own signatures as release manager count, I have the fulldeps 
tarball tested, but only with the file/fsfs combination. If a third full 
signature is needed, I can try to get some heavier tests running, er, a 
little later.

- Dave.

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Re: Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

Posted by Malcolm Rowe <ma...@farside.org.uk>.
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 08:44:51AM -0800, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> Why ever not?  The tag is a permanent record of what was in that
> tarball, information that is both useful to have and not dependent on
> the entire set of conditions that must be met for a tarball to be
> signed.  In other words, that rc1 was DOA before getting the required
> signatures should in no way imply that we don't want to tag rc1 --
> that code *is* rc1, whether or not rc1 is the final release.
> 

I seem to remember a similar problem with 1.2.2, and, indeed, there is
no 1.2.2 tag in the repository.

Again, there probably should be.

Regards,
Malcolm

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Re: Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

Posted by David Anderson <da...@calixo.net>.
C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> that code *is* rc1, whether or not rc1 is the final release.

And it now really is.  1.3.0-rc[12] tagged in the repository.  Sorry for 
the confusion.

- Dave.

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Re: Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

Posted by Daniel Berlin <db...@dberlin.org>.
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 10:58 -0800, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> Mark Phippard <ma...@softlanding.com> writes:
> 
> > Also releases.txt implies that the tag is not made until the tarball is 
> > officially released.
> > 
> > http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/notes/releases.txt
> 
> Releases.txt also has two step 12's.  Can we reaaaaally trust that
> file?  ;-)
> 
Releases.txt has tried to raise your taxes 30% percent, 200 times in the
past 5 years[1]

Releases.txt:  It's not on your side


[1] Source: Bergen county record 7/1/05



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Re: Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

Posted by Mark Phippard <ma...@softlanding.com>.
cmpilato@localhost.localdomain wrote on 11/08/2005 01:58:08 PM:

> Mark Phippard <ma...@softlanding.com> writes:
> 
> > Also releases.txt implies that the tag is not made until the tarball 
is 
> > officially released.
> > 
> > http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/notes/releases.txt
> 
> Releases.txt also has two step 12's.  Can we reaaaaally trust that
> file?  ;-)

I have no problem with either approach.  I just know this has been 
discussed to death and the "decision" has always been that a tag is only 
created if a release is official and not until it is official.

I would be happy to find additional mailing list threads on the topic.

If you read just that last thread I sent, you will see there were some 
fairly strong opinions expressed on both sides of the issue.

Mark


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Re: Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>.
Mark Phippard <ma...@softlanding.com> writes:

> Also releases.txt implies that the tag is not made until the tarball is 
> officially released.
> 
> http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/notes/releases.txt

Releases.txt also has two step 12's.  Can we reaaaaally trust that
file?  ;-)

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Re: Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

Posted by Mark Phippard <ma...@softlanding.com>.
cmpilato@localhost.localdomain wrote on 11/08/2005 11:44:51 AM:

> Daniel Berlin <db...@dberlin.org> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 06:51 -0800, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> > > David, could you please retroactively create the tags for 1.3.0-rc1
> > > and 1.3.0-rc2 (per step 12 of releases.txt) ?
> > > 
> > 
> > We had a discussion about this on irc at the time, and the consensus 
was
> > he wasn't supposed to create the tags until he got the appropriate
> > amount of sigs.
> 
> Why ever not?  The tag is a permanent record of what was in that
> tarball, information that is both useful to have and not dependent on
> the entire set of conditions that must be met for a tarball to be
> signed.  In other words, that rc1 was DOA before getting the required
> signatures should in no way imply that we don't want to tag rc1 --
> that code *is* rc1, whether or not rc1 is the final release.

This seems to come up every time a release is done.  Here is just one 
example:

http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=dev&from=309047&to=309047&count=38&by=thread&paged=false

Also releases.txt implies that the tag is not made until the tarball is 
officially released.

http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/notes/releases.txt

Mark


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Re: Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>.
Daniel Berlin <db...@dberlin.org> writes:

> On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 06:51 -0800, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> > David, could you please retroactively create the tags for 1.3.0-rc1
> > and 1.3.0-rc2 (per step 12 of releases.txt) ?
> > 
> 
> We had a discussion about this on irc at the time, and the consensus was
> he wasn't supposed to create the tags until he got the appropriate
> amount of sigs.

Why ever not?  The tag is a permanent record of what was in that
tarball, information that is both useful to have and not dependent on
the entire set of conditions that must be met for a tarball to be
signed.  In other words, that rc1 was DOA before getting the required
signatures should in no way imply that we don't want to tag rc1 --
that code *is* rc1, whether or not rc1 is the final release.

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Re: Missing tags: 1.3.0-rc1, 1.3.0-rc2

Posted by Daniel Berlin <db...@dberlin.org>.
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 06:51 -0800, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> David, could you please retroactively create the tags for 1.3.0-rc1
> and 1.3.0-rc2 (per step 12 of releases.txt) ?
> 

We had a discussion about this on irc at the time, and the consensus was
he wasn't supposed to create the tags until he got the appropriate
amount of sigs.

IIRC



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