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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com> on 2006/02/27 09:29:07 UTC

shared code requirements

Hello

There is a number of places in the web where people are talking about
those requirements. Example:

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jspa-position.html

Does anybody know whether those requirements are still valid and what exactly
code we will have to take from Sun if any?

Thanks,
Mikhail Loenko
Intel Middleware Products Division

Re: shared code requirements

Posted by Dalibor Topic <ro...@kaffe.org>.
Mikhail Loenko <mloenko <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> The reason I'm asking is that there is a chance that we do not have to
> implement some parts. For example, Jason Hunter mentioned [1] that
> swing goes as
> a shared code.
> 
> So probably we do not have to implement swing and maybe something else.
>
> Does anybody know what is the exact list of things which we will have to
> take from Sun to be Java[tm]?

Back in the old days, Sun and the JCP used to force you to include some
proprietary code in a Java implementation. That's why no open source and
certified implementations were possible up to last year.

That's no longer the case, and no code is forcibly bundled any more. The code
that was forcibly bundled was not open source, and therefore unaccaptable for
Harmony anyway. In other words, we'll have to implement everything.

cheers,
dalibor topic


Re: shared code requirements

Posted by Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>.
The reason I'm asking is that there is a chance that we do not have to
implement some parts. For example, Jason Hunter mentioned [1] that
swing goes as
a shared code.

So probably we do not have to implement swing and maybe something else.

Does anybody know what is the exact list of things which we will have to
take from Sun to be Java[tm]?

Thanks,
Mikhail

[1] http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/j-hunter/

2006/2/27, Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>:
> Hello
>
> There is a number of places in the web where people are talking about
> those requirements. Example:
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jspa-position.html
>
> Does anybody know whether those requirements are still valid and what exactly
> code we will have to take from Sun if any?
>
> Thanks,
> Mikhail Loenko
> Intel Middleware Products Division
>

Re: shared code requirements

Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
Goodness.  read the dates on that!

That was back in 2002 when the ASF helped get the JSPA changed to 
eliminate share code requirements and make independent open-source 
implementations of Java a possibility....

1.5 or "5" is the first J2SE spec produced under those new rules, which 
is why we're able to do it.

geir

Mikhail Loenko wrote:
> Hello
> 
> There is a number of places in the web where people are talking about
> those requirements. Example:
> 
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jspa-position.html
> 
> Does anybody know whether those requirements are still valid and what exactly
> code we will have to take from Sun if any?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mikhail Loenko
> Intel Middleware Products Division
> 
>