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[OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Sheesh man, I'm not calling for a ban on anyone, but give Niall a break. Niall is one of the most helpful people I've ever met online. Mark comes in here and says "Struts is dead" and calls everyone faggots, etc., ad nauseum. He might behave that way on many lists, but all of us who don't know him don't know that, and we're not used to it. It doesn't bother me what people say in general, but if it bothers Niall, and Joe, then suddenly it bothers me too. These guys work too hard -- for us (at least partially for us). This list is supposed to be about volunteering -- providing support for Struts. If I was a new user and I walked into this list yesterday, I'd be saying to myself, how can Struts really be any good (or worth it) if this is what it's like to hang out in the community? The committers don't deserve that. It's just a matter of showing respect for others. I wouldn't come into your house and purposely grind mud into your carpet. This is not the Internet at-large, this is the Apache Struts-user list.
Independent thought and trolling aren't the same in my opinion. I'm still not for a ban on anyone, but if the committers (who do all the work) are bothered, whose side are you on? How sucky would this list *really* be if those guys (and all the other guys and gals who volunteer help every day) went away, and left us with nothing but a mail version of IRC?
Erik
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Meadors <la...@gmail.com>
Sent: Jun 30, 2005 12:33 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List <us...@struts.apache.org>,
Brandon Goodin <br...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
Well, IMO, the funny part of them is that 50% are accurate and valid.
So, do we now ban people whose opinions do not match ours because they
are "disruptive"?
Great way to build up the community Niall - ban independent thought.
Larry
On 6/30/05, Brandon Goodin <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i find this thread massively humorous. Can someone collect more of
> marks quotes. I was crying with laughter while i read them :)
>
> Brandon
>
> On 6/30/05, Mark Galbreath <mg...@elections.state.md.us> wrote:
> > Carlos, this sounds like a threat. That is REALLY intolerable, u obtuse little shmuck.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 08:50:47PM -0700, Carlos Duque wrote:
> > } Actually, I wonder just how happy the State of Maryland would be know the
> > } amount of time this fellow expends pontificating on topics far removed
> > } from any work for the Department of Elections.
> >
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of ......
Posted by Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>.
erikweber@mindspring.com on 30/06/05 18:40, wrote:
> Sheesh man, I'm not calling for a ban on anyone, but give Niall a
> break. Niall is one of the most helpful people I've ever met online.
> Mark comes in here and says "Struts is dead" and calls everyone
> faggots, etc., ad nauseum. He might behave that way on many lists,
> but all of us who don't know him don't know that, and we're not used
> to it. It doesn't bother me what people say in general, but if it
> bothers Niall, and Joe, then suddenly it bothers me too. These guys
> work too hard -- for us (at least partially for us). This list is
> supposed to be about volunteering -- providing support for Struts. If
> I was a new user and I walked into this list yesterday, I'd be saying
> to myself, how can Struts really be any good (or worth it) if this is
> what it's like to hang out in the community? The committers don't
> deserve that. It's just a matter of showing respect for others. I
> wouldn't come into your house and purposely grind mud into your
> carpet. This is not the Internet at-large, this is the Apache
> Struts-user list.
+1
not that I use it, but the subscribers using Digest format do not have
the choice of using filters.
I think it's best to cut the wise cracks, cheap shots and sound bites
and resist the temptation to express your humour unless it's Friday.
Which it will be in about 4 hours here.
Adam
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[FRIDAY] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by netsql <ne...@roomity.com>.
David G. Friedman wrote:
>
> I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
> the netbeans list.
we seem to have a fascination w/ a trainwreck.
.V
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com>.
"Self-defense"? What a joke. You better make sure that your
imaginary relative is licensed in the right state?
On 7/2/05, David G. Friedman <hu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> D.J.,
>
> That was a very lively post. Did someone hit close to
> home with a recent comment or two?
>
> Why not sue away? I'm sure I could use the money
> from the inevitable self-defensive counter-suit. I could
> go on and on about the lawyer in the family, but I'd
> have to stop feuding with him. Don't make me make peace
> with my relative. THAT would be pure evil!
>
> So: How about a nice game of chess? (Joshua, WarGames)
>
> =-=-=
> (Probably) To Be Continued Next Friday when our
> list's CLEARLY off-topic discussions resume.
>
> Tune in next week when our heroes (as if we even
> know who they are) battle it out with the evil
> Dr. Multiple Personality. Same list time, same
> list channel!
>
> And now back to your regularly scheduled POSTS.
>
> =-=-=
>
> Regards with impish grins OFTEN,
> David Friedman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dakota Jack [mailto:dakota.jack@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:19 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
>
>
> The first person who steps far enough over the line is going to be
> slammed with a lawsuit by yours truly. You are getting close
> Friedman. Impish grin that!
>
> Mark could care less about code. I get crossways with people because
> I care about code. Also, James and I are not really on the best terms
> and he and Mark have been buds for a long time.
>
> And, Friedman, that offering does not warrant the description as a
> "thought". More like the absence of any discernable thought,
> consistent with your other puerile offerings on the list..
>
> On 7/1/05, David G. Friedman <hu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Here is a thought:
> >
> > If Dakota Jack has been thought by some to be multiple people/posters, why
> > couldn't this Ilias Lazaridis be another 'personality' of Mark Galbreath,
> or
> > even another 'identity' of Dakota Jack himself?
> >
> > Regards,
> > David, a list member who is often amused by the Mark Galbreath's comments
> > but prefers a list keep to topic more than read insulting attacks on other
> > list members.
> >
> > P.S. This post is pure speculation and NOT an attack Dakota, Jack, or this
> > 'Ilias' person. *impish grin*
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Meadors [mailto:larry.meadors@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:42 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
> >
> >
> > Hahah, I had forgotten that stain of humanity.
> >
> > I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
> > the netbeans list. He makes Mark look intelligent and polished.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 7/1/05, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post....
> > >
> > > Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor, and not
> a
> > > complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
> > >
> > > If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
> > >
> > > He came on the OJB mailing list and started laying into developers about
> > not
> > > providing examples that he could use within 2 minutes of downloading
> them.
> > > He refused to accept that there is no point in providing an OJB app that
> > > does nothing, but runs. Absolute moron. He has been banned from many
> > lists,
> > > after insulting people. there are some funny posts out there by him
> > >
> > > e.g.
> > >
> >
> http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.softwaretools/2005-0
> > > 1/0147.html
> > >
> > > Daniel.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> > > > admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> > > > savoring every moment of this :D.
> > > >
> > > > Brandon
>
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com>.
You mgiht check out the difference between libel, slander and per se
libel versus the garden variety type. And, if you think that the
internet gives you any sort of immunity, you are in for a surprise,
grasshopper.
On 7/2/05, Aleksandar Matijaca <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/2/05, Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The first person who steps far enough over the line is going to be
> > slammed with a lawsuit by yours truly. You are getting close
>
> A lawsuit?? On the basis of what?? Slander? On the internet
> you can say anything you want, and get away with it ---- I mean, come
> on --- people 'slander' McDonalds, WalMart, Microsoft on the net -- and
> what happens from it?? NOTHING... We all kow email addresses
> can be faked... I suggest you talk to a lawyer first....
>
> Regards, a.m.
>
>
>
> > Friedman. Impish grin that!
> >
> > Mark could care less about code. I get crossways with people because
> > I care about code. Also, James and I are not really on the best terms
> > and he and Mark have been buds for a long time.
> >
> > And, Friedman, that offering does not warrant the description as a
> > "thought". More like the absence of any discernable thought,
> > consistent with your other puerile offerings on the list..
> >
> > On 7/1/05, David G. Friedman <hu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > Here is a thought:
> > >
> > > If Dakota Jack has been thought by some to be multiple people/posters, why
> > > couldn't this Ilias Lazaridis be another 'personality' of Mark Galbreath, or
> > > even another 'identity' of Dakota Jack himself?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > David, a list member who is often amused by the Mark Galbreath's comments
> > > but prefers a list keep to topic more than read insulting attacks on other
> > > list members.
> > >
> > > P.S. This post is pure speculation and NOT an attack Dakota, Jack, or this
> > > 'Ilias' person. *impish grin*
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Meadors [mailto:larry.meadors@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:42 AM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
> > >
> > >
> > > Hahah, I had forgotten that stain of humanity.
> > >
> > > I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
> > > the netbeans list. He makes Mark look intelligent and polished.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/1/05, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post....
> > > >
> > > > Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor, and not a
> > > > complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
> > > >
> > > > If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
> > > >
> > > > He came on the OJB mailing list and started laying into developers about
> > > not
> > > > providing examples that he could use within 2 minutes of downloading them.
> > > > He refused to accept that there is no point in providing an OJB app that
> > > > does nothing, but runs. Absolute moron. He has been banned from many
> > > lists,
> > > > after insulting people. there are some funny posts out there by him
> > > >
> > > > e.g.
> > > >
> > > http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.softwaretools/2005-0
> > > > 1/0147.html
> > > >
> > > > Daniel.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> > > > > admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> > > > > savoring every moment of this :D.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brandon
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com>.
I am a lawyer. I suggest you stop trying to analyse the law. You have no clue.
On 7/2/05, Aleksandar Matijaca <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/2/05, Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The first person who steps far enough over the line is going to be
> > slammed with a lawsuit by yours truly. You are getting close
>
> A lawsuit?? On the basis of what?? Slander? On the internet
> you can say anything you want, and get away with it ---- I mean, come
> on --- people 'slander' McDonalds, WalMart, Microsoft on the net -- and
> what happens from it?? NOTHING... We all kow email addresses
> can be faked... I suggest you talk to a lawyer first....
>
> Regards, a.m.
>
>
>
> > Friedman. Impish grin that!
> >
> > Mark could care less about code. I get crossways with people because
> > I care about code. Also, James and I are not really on the best terms
> > and he and Mark have been buds for a long time.
> >
> > And, Friedman, that offering does not warrant the description as a
> > "thought". More like the absence of any discernable thought,
> > consistent with your other puerile offerings on the list..
> >
> > On 7/1/05, David G. Friedman <hu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > Here is a thought:
> > >
> > > If Dakota Jack has been thought by some to be multiple people/posters, why
> > > couldn't this Ilias Lazaridis be another 'personality' of Mark Galbreath, or
> > > even another 'identity' of Dakota Jack himself?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > David, a list member who is often amused by the Mark Galbreath's comments
> > > but prefers a list keep to topic more than read insulting attacks on other
> > > list members.
> > >
> > > P.S. This post is pure speculation and NOT an attack Dakota, Jack, or this
> > > 'Ilias' person. *impish grin*
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Meadors [mailto:larry.meadors@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:42 AM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
> > >
> > >
> > > Hahah, I had forgotten that stain of humanity.
> > >
> > > I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
> > > the netbeans list. He makes Mark look intelligent and polished.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/1/05, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post....
> > > >
> > > > Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor, and not a
> > > > complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
> > > >
> > > > If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
> > > >
> > > > He came on the OJB mailing list and started laying into developers about
> > > not
> > > > providing examples that he could use within 2 minutes of downloading them.
> > > > He refused to accept that there is no point in providing an OJB app that
> > > > does nothing, but runs. Absolute moron. He has been banned from many
> > > lists,
> > > > after insulting people. there are some funny posts out there by him
> > > >
> > > > e.g.
> > > >
> > > http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.softwaretools/2005-0
> > > > 1/0147.html
> > > >
> > > > Daniel.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> > > > > admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> > > > > savoring every moment of this :D.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brandon
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Aleksandar Matijaca <am...@gmail.com>.
On 7/2/05, Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The first person who steps far enough over the line is going to be
> slammed with a lawsuit by yours truly. You are getting close
A lawsuit?? On the basis of what?? Slander? On the internet
you can say anything you want, and get away with it ---- I mean, come
on --- people 'slander' McDonalds, WalMart, Microsoft on the net -- and
what happens from it?? NOTHING... We all kow email addresses
can be faked... I suggest you talk to a lawyer first....
Regards, a.m.
> Friedman. Impish grin that!
>
> Mark could care less about code. I get crossways with people because
> I care about code. Also, James and I are not really on the best terms
> and he and Mark have been buds for a long time.
>
> And, Friedman, that offering does not warrant the description as a
> "thought". More like the absence of any discernable thought,
> consistent with your other puerile offerings on the list..
>
> On 7/1/05, David G. Friedman <hu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Here is a thought:
> >
> > If Dakota Jack has been thought by some to be multiple people/posters, why
> > couldn't this Ilias Lazaridis be another 'personality' of Mark Galbreath, or
> > even another 'identity' of Dakota Jack himself?
> >
> > Regards,
> > David, a list member who is often amused by the Mark Galbreath's comments
> > but prefers a list keep to topic more than read insulting attacks on other
> > list members.
> >
> > P.S. This post is pure speculation and NOT an attack Dakota, Jack, or this
> > 'Ilias' person. *impish grin*
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Meadors [mailto:larry.meadors@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:42 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
> >
> >
> > Hahah, I had forgotten that stain of humanity.
> >
> > I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
> > the netbeans list. He makes Mark look intelligent and polished.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 7/1/05, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post....
> > >
> > > Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor, and not a
> > > complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
> > >
> > > If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
> > >
> > > He came on the OJB mailing list and started laying into developers about
> > not
> > > providing examples that he could use within 2 minutes of downloading them.
> > > He refused to accept that there is no point in providing an OJB app that
> > > does nothing, but runs. Absolute moron. He has been banned from many
> > lists,
> > > after insulting people. there are some funny posts out there by him
> > >
> > > e.g.
> > >
> > http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.softwaretools/2005-0
> > > 1/0147.html
> > >
> > > Daniel.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> > > > admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> > > > savoring every moment of this :D.
> > > >
> > > > Brandon
> > >
> > >
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com>.
I think, I know, that you have messages read out of order, Buddy. I
don't think Mark is involved in a canard.
On 7/12/05, Access Denied <ac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I read the same story on struts-interest and j2ee-interest; it seems
> to me unlikely that he would go to such efforts if (a) it were not
> true or (b) he really has an axe to grind with you mates.
>
> buddy
>
> On 7/11/05, Mark Benussi <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Or a duck?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Newton [mailto:newton@pingsite.com]
> > Sent: 11 July 2005 21:34
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
> >
> > Dakota Jack wrote:
> >
> > >You know what a "canard" is Newton?
> > >
> > >
> > Front control surface on an airplane?
> >
> > Really, these questions are too easy.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Access Denied <ac...@gmail.com>.
I read the same story on struts-interest and j2ee-interest; it seems
to me unlikely that he would go to such efforts if (a) it were not
true or (b) he really has an axe to grind with you mates.
buddy
On 7/11/05, Mark Benussi <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Or a duck?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Newton [mailto:newton@pingsite.com]
> Sent: 11 July 2005 21:34
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
>
> Dakota Jack wrote:
>
> >You know what a "canard" is Newton?
> >
> >
> Front control surface on an airplane?
>
> Really, these questions are too easy.
>
> Dave
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RE: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Mark Benussi <ma...@hotmail.com>.
Or a duck?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Newton [mailto:newton@pingsite.com]
Sent: 11 July 2005 21:34
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Dakota Jack wrote:
>You know what a "canard" is Newton?
>
>
Front control surface on an airplane?
Really, these questions are too easy.
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Dave Newton <ne...@pingsite.com>.
Dakota Jack wrote:
>You know what a "canard" is Newton?
>
>
Front control surface on an airplane?
Really, these questions are too easy.
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
Isn't it French for duck?
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com>.
You know what a "canard" is Newton?
On 7/2/05, Dave Newton <ne...@pingsite.com> wrote:
> Dakota Jack wrote:
>
> >The first person who steps far enough over the line is going to be
> >slammed with a lawsuit by yours truly. You are getting close
> >Friedman. Impish grin that!
> >
> >
> *rotflmao*
>
> I like lines.
>
> >Mark could care less about code.
> >
> Yep, I bet he could.
>
> You, however, probably meant "couldn't care less."
>
> Dave
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Dave Newton <ne...@pingsite.com>.
Dakota Jack wrote:
>The first person who steps far enough over the line is going to be
>slammed with a lawsuit by yours truly. You are getting close
>Friedman. Impish grin that!
>
>
*rotflmao*
I like lines.
>Mark could care less about code.
>
Yep, I bet he could.
You, however, probably meant "couldn't care less."
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RE: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by "David G. Friedman" <hu...@ix.netcom.com>.
D.J.,
That was a very lively post. Did someone hit close to
home with a recent comment or two?
Why not sue away? I'm sure I could use the money
from the inevitable self-defensive counter-suit. I could
go on and on about the lawyer in the family, but I'd
have to stop feuding with him. Don't make me make peace
with my relative. THAT would be pure evil!
So: How about a nice game of chess? (Joshua, WarGames)
=-=-=
(Probably) To Be Continued Next Friday when our
list's CLEARLY off-topic discussions resume.
Tune in next week when our heroes (as if we even
know who they are) battle it out with the evil
Dr. Multiple Personality. Same list time, same
list channel!
And now back to your regularly scheduled POSTS.
=-=-=
Regards with impish grins OFTEN,
David Friedman
-----Original Message-----
From: Dakota Jack [mailto:dakota.jack@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:19 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
The first person who steps far enough over the line is going to be
slammed with a lawsuit by yours truly. You are getting close
Friedman. Impish grin that!
Mark could care less about code. I get crossways with people because
I care about code. Also, James and I are not really on the best terms
and he and Mark have been buds for a long time.
And, Friedman, that offering does not warrant the description as a
"thought". More like the absence of any discernable thought,
consistent with your other puerile offerings on the list..
On 7/1/05, David G. Friedman <hu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Here is a thought:
>
> If Dakota Jack has been thought by some to be multiple people/posters, why
> couldn't this Ilias Lazaridis be another 'personality' of Mark Galbreath,
or
> even another 'identity' of Dakota Jack himself?
>
> Regards,
> David, a list member who is often amused by the Mark Galbreath's comments
> but prefers a list keep to topic more than read insulting attacks on other
> list members.
>
> P.S. This post is pure speculation and NOT an attack Dakota, Jack, or this
> 'Ilias' person. *impish grin*
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Meadors [mailto:larry.meadors@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:42 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
>
>
> Hahah, I had forgotten that stain of humanity.
>
> I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
> the netbeans list. He makes Mark look intelligent and polished.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 7/1/05, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> > Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post....
> >
> > Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor, and not
a
> > complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
> >
> > If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
> >
> > He came on the OJB mailing list and started laying into developers about
> not
> > providing examples that he could use within 2 minutes of downloading
them.
> > He refused to accept that there is no point in providing an OJB app that
> > does nothing, but runs. Absolute moron. He has been banned from many
> lists,
> > after insulting people. there are some funny posts out there by him
> >
> > e.g.
> >
>
http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.softwaretools/2005-0
> > 1/0147.html
> >
> > Daniel.
> >
> > >
> > > I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> > > admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> > > savoring every moment of this :D.
> > >
> > > Brandon
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com>.
The first person who steps far enough over the line is going to be
slammed with a lawsuit by yours truly. You are getting close
Friedman. Impish grin that!
Mark could care less about code. I get crossways with people because
I care about code. Also, James and I are not really on the best terms
and he and Mark have been buds for a long time.
And, Friedman, that offering does not warrant the description as a
"thought". More like the absence of any discernable thought,
consistent with your other puerile offerings on the list..
On 7/1/05, David G. Friedman <hu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Here is a thought:
>
> If Dakota Jack has been thought by some to be multiple people/posters, why
> couldn't this Ilias Lazaridis be another 'personality' of Mark Galbreath, or
> even another 'identity' of Dakota Jack himself?
>
> Regards,
> David, a list member who is often amused by the Mark Galbreath's comments
> but prefers a list keep to topic more than read insulting attacks on other
> list members.
>
> P.S. This post is pure speculation and NOT an attack Dakota, Jack, or this
> 'Ilias' person. *impish grin*
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Meadors [mailto:larry.meadors@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:42 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
>
>
> Hahah, I had forgotten that stain of humanity.
>
> I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
> the netbeans list. He makes Mark look intelligent and polished.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 7/1/05, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> > Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post....
> >
> > Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor, and not a
> > complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
> >
> > If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
> >
> > He came on the OJB mailing list and started laying into developers about
> not
> > providing examples that he could use within 2 minutes of downloading them.
> > He refused to accept that there is no point in providing an OJB app that
> > does nothing, but runs. Absolute moron. He has been banned from many
> lists,
> > after insulting people. there are some funny posts out there by him
> >
> > e.g.
> >
> http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.softwaretools/2005-0
> > 1/0147.html
> >
> > Daniel.
> >
> > >
> > > I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> > > admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> > > savoring every moment of this :D.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Dave Newton <ne...@pingsite.com>.
Larry Meadors wrote:
>You love men? Is it "coming out" day on struts-users, or what?
>
>Man, I love Friday.
>
>
Remember, only Robinson Crusoe could get everything done by Friday.
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Larry Meadors <la...@gmail.com>.
You love men? Is it "coming out" day on struts-users, or what?
Man, I love Friday.
Larry ;-)
On 7/1/05, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> While it is disheartening to see him suffer from this common
> condition. We are here for you Mark. We love you man!
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Simon Chappell <si...@gmail.com>.
James,
> While it is disheartening to see him suffer from this common
> condition. We are here for you Mark. We love you man!
Actually, I'm fairly sure that I don't want to commit to anything more
than moderately fond.
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
Actually Mark told me offline that he really enjoys harassing people
on our list. This is unfortunate, but as he explained to me in nose-
bleeding detail, he currently suffers from a state of PMS-D (Post
Microsoft Delusion). Typical symptoms include an unquenchable thirst
for midget-porn, hair growth in "strange and unusual places", and the
occasional off-colored vaginal discharge.
While it is disheartening to see him suffer from this common
condition. We are here for you Mark. We love you man!
--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
EdgeTech, Inc.
http://www.edgetechservices.net/
678.910.8017
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On Jul 1, 2005, at 10:42 AM, David G. Friedman wrote:
> Here is a thought:
>
> If Dakota Jack has been thought by some to be multiple people/
> posters, why
> couldn't this Ilias Lazaridis be another 'personality' of Mark
> Galbreath, or
> even another 'identity' of Dakota Jack himself?
>
> Regards,
> David, a list member who is often amused by the Mark Galbreath's
> comments
> but prefers a list keep to topic more than read insulting attacks
> on other
> list members.
>
> P.S. This post is pure speculation and NOT an attack Dakota, Jack,
> or this
> 'Ilias' person. *impish grin*
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Meadors [mailto:larry.meadors@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:42 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
>
>
> Hahah, I had forgotten that stain of humanity.
>
> I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
> the netbeans list. He makes Mark look intelligent and polished.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 7/1/05, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post....
>>
>> Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor,
>> and not a
>> complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
>>
>> If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
>>
>> He came on the OJB mailing list and started laying into developers
>> about
>>
> not
>
>> providing examples that he could use within 2 minutes of
>> downloading them.
>> He refused to accept that there is no point in providing an OJB
>> app that
>> does nothing, but runs. Absolute moron. He has been banned from many
>>
> lists,
>
>> after insulting people. there are some funny posts out there by him
>>
>> e.g.
>>
>>
> http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/
> comp.lang.java.softwaretools/2005-0
>
>> 1/0147.html
>>
>> Daniel.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i
>>> just
>>> admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
>>> savoring every moment of this :D.
>>>
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>
>>
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RE: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by "David G. Friedman" <hu...@ix.netcom.com>.
Here is a thought:
If Dakota Jack has been thought by some to be multiple people/posters, why
couldn't this Ilias Lazaridis be another 'personality' of Mark Galbreath, or
even another 'identity' of Dakota Jack himself?
Regards,
David, a list member who is often amused by the Mark Galbreath's comments
but prefers a list keep to topic more than read insulting attacks on other
list members.
P.S. This post is pure speculation and NOT an attack Dakota, Jack, or this
'Ilias' person. *impish grin*
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Meadors [mailto:larry.meadors@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:42 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Hahah, I had forgotten that stain of humanity.
I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
the netbeans list. He makes Mark look intelligent and polished.
Larry
On 7/1/05, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post....
>
> Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor, and not a
> complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
>
> If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
>
> He came on the OJB mailing list and started laying into developers about
not
> providing examples that he could use within 2 minutes of downloading them.
> He refused to accept that there is no point in providing an OJB app that
> does nothing, but runs. Absolute moron. He has been banned from many
lists,
> after insulting people. there are some funny posts out there by him
>
> e.g.
>
http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.softwaretools/2005-0
> 1/0147.html
>
> Daniel.
>
> >
> > I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> > admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> > savoring every moment of this :D.
> >
> > Brandon
>
>
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Larry Meadors <la...@gmail.com>.
Hahah, I had forgotten that stain of humanity.
I *did* think Mark was bad until I read a post from Ilias Lazaridis on
the netbeans list. He makes Mark look intelligent and polished.
Larry
On 7/1/05, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post....
>
> Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor, and not a
> complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
>
> If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
>
> He came on the OJB mailing list and started laying into developers about not
> providing examples that he could use within 2 minutes of downloading them.
> He refused to accept that there is no point in providing an OJB app that
> does nothing, but runs. Absolute moron. He has been banned from many lists,
> after insulting people. there are some funny posts out there by him
>
> e.g.
> http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.softwaretools/2005-0
> 1/0147.html
>
> Daniel.
>
> >
> > I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> > admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> > savoring every moment of this :D.
> >
> > Brandon
>
>
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by delbd <de...@oma.be>.
Since when does opera support SOAP protocol?
Le Jeudi 30 Juin 2005 21:21, Brandon Goodin a écrit :
> I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> savoring every moment of this :D.
>
> Brandon
>
> On 6/30/05, erikweber@mindspring.com <er...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Sheesh man, I'm not calling for a ban on anyone, but give Niall a break. Niall is one of the most helpful people I've ever met online. Mark comes in here and says "Struts is dead" and calls everyone faggots, etc., ad nauseum. He might behave that way on many lists, but all of us who don't know him don't know that, and we're not used to it. It doesn't bother me what people say in general, but if it bothers Niall, and Joe, then suddenly it bothers me too. These guys work too hard -- for us (at least partially for us). This list is supposed to be about volunteering -- providing support for Struts. If I was a new user and I walked into this list yesterday, I'd be saying to myself, how can Struts really be any good (or worth it) if this is what it's like to hang out in the community? The committers don't deserve that. It's just a matter of showing respect for others. I wouldn't come into your house and purposely grind mud into your carpet. This is not the Internet at-large, this is the Apache Struts-user list.
> >
> > Independent thought and trolling aren't the same in my opinion. I'm still not for a ban on anyone, but if the committers (who do all the work) are bothered, whose side are you on? How sucky would this list *really* be if those guys (and all the other guys and gals who volunteer help every day) went away, and left us with nothing but a mail version of IRC?
> >
> > Erik
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Meadors <la...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Jun 30, 2005 12:33 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List <us...@struts.apache.org>,
> > Brandon Goodin <br...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
> >
> > Well, IMO, the funny part of them is that 50% are accurate and valid.
> >
> > So, do we now ban people whose opinions do not match ours because they
> > are "disruptive"?
> >
> > Great way to build up the community Niall - ban independent thought.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On 6/30/05, Brandon Goodin <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > i find this thread massively humorous. Can someone collect more of
> > > marks quotes. I was crying with laughter while i read them :)
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > > On 6/30/05, Mark Galbreath <mg...@elections.state.md.us> wrote:
> > > > Carlos, this sounds like a threat. That is REALLY intolerable, u obtuse little shmuck.
> > > >
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by netsql <ne...@roomity.com>.
>
> On 6/30/05, erikweber@mindspring.com <er...@mindspring.com> wrote:
... give Niall a break. Niall is one of the most helpful people I've
ever met online.
+1
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RE: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk>.
Yup. To be honest, i can handle the occasional insulting post....
Be thankful that he's just distasteful and has a sense of humor, and not a
complete idiot that will never give up insulting developers.
If you're bored, have a search for this guy: Ilias Lazaridis
He came on the OJB mailing list and started laying into developers about not
providing examples that he could use within 2 minutes of downloading them.
He refused to accept that there is no point in providing an OJB app that
does nothing, but runs. Absolute moron. He has been banned from many lists,
after insulting people. there are some funny posts out there by him
e.g.
http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.softwaretools/2005-0
1/0147.html
Daniel.
>
> I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
> admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
> savoring every moment of this :D.
>
> Brandon
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Brandon Goodin <br...@gmail.com>.
I love this drama. It's like watching a soap opera. *urmph* Did i just
admit that i like soap operas? And just think, our favorite troll is
savoring every moment of this :D.
Brandon
On 6/30/05, erikweber@mindspring.com <er...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Sheesh man, I'm not calling for a ban on anyone, but give Niall a break. Niall is one of the most helpful people I've ever met online. Mark comes in here and says "Struts is dead" and calls everyone faggots, etc., ad nauseum. He might behave that way on many lists, but all of us who don't know him don't know that, and we're not used to it. It doesn't bother me what people say in general, but if it bothers Niall, and Joe, then suddenly it bothers me too. These guys work too hard -- for us (at least partially for us). This list is supposed to be about volunteering -- providing support for Struts. If I was a new user and I walked into this list yesterday, I'd be saying to myself, how can Struts really be any good (or worth it) if this is what it's like to hang out in the community? The committers don't deserve that. It's just a matter of showing respect for others. I wouldn't come into your house and purposely grind mud into your carpet. This is not the Internet at-large, this is the Apache Struts-user list.
>
> Independent thought and trolling aren't the same in my opinion. I'm still not for a ban on anyone, but if the committers (who do all the work) are bothered, whose side are you on? How sucky would this list *really* be if those guys (and all the other guys and gals who volunteer help every day) went away, and left us with nothing but a mail version of IRC?
>
> Erik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Meadors <la...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Jun 30, 2005 12:33 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List <us...@struts.apache.org>,
> Brandon Goodin <br...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
>
> Well, IMO, the funny part of them is that 50% are accurate and valid.
>
> So, do we now ban people whose opinions do not match ours because they
> are "disruptive"?
>
> Great way to build up the community Niall - ban independent thought.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 6/30/05, Brandon Goodin <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > i find this thread massively humorous. Can someone collect more of
> > marks quotes. I was crying with laughter while i read them :)
> >
> > Brandon
> >
> > On 6/30/05, Mark Galbreath <mg...@elections.state.md.us> wrote:
> > > Carlos, this sounds like a threat. That is REALLY intolerable, u obtuse little shmuck.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 08:50:47PM -0700, Carlos Duque wrote:
> > > } Actually, I wonder just how happy the State of Maryland would be know the
> > > } amount of time this fellow expends pontificating on topics far removed
> > > } from any work for the Department of Elections.
> > >
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Dave Newton <ne...@pingsite.com>.
Yan Hu wrote:
>>...just trying to keep the conversation lively. ;-)
>>
>>
>by insulting people?
>
>
Beats hittin' 'em with a stick.
Dave
Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Yan Hu <ya...@yahoo.com>.
> ...just trying to keep the conversation lively. ;-)
by insulting people?
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Mark Galbreath <ma...@gmail.com>.
...just trying to keep the conversation lively. ;-)
~mark
On 6/30/05, M. Bitner <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/30/05, erikweber@mindspring.com <er...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Sheesh man, I'm not calling for a ban on anyone, but give Niall a break. Niall is one of the most helpful people I've ever met online. Mark comes in here and says "Struts is dead" and calls everyone faggots, etc., ad nauseum. He might behave that way on many lists, but all of us who don't know him don't know that, and we're not used to it. It doesn't bother me what people say in general, but if it bothers Niall, and Joe, then suddenly it bothers me too. These guys work too hard -- for us (at least partially for us). This list is supposed to be about volunteering -- providing support for Struts. If I was a new user and I walked into this list yesterday, I'd be saying to myself, how can Struts really be any good (or worth it) if this is what it's like to hang out in the community? The committers don't deserve that. It's just a matter of showing respect for others. I wouldn't come into your house and purposely grind mud into your carpet. This is not the Internet at-large, this is the Apache Struts-user list.
> >
> > Independent thought and trolling aren't the same in my opinion. I'm still not for a ban on anyone, but if the committers (who do all the work) are bothered, whose side are you on? How sucky would this list *really* be if those guys (and all the other guys and gals who volunteer help every day) went away, and left us with nothing but a mail version of IRC?
> >
> > Erik
> >
>
> +1 what he said. :)
>
> There is a difference between expressing conflicting viewpoints,
> infantile behavior, and generally being offensive. If one person's
> behavior is offensive enough to drive people away then that hurts the
> Struts community rather than helps it and I would expect the
> committers to try and fix the problem.
>
> FWIW, I do find Mark's posts to have little redeeming value and would
> prefer not to be inflicted with them.
>
> Melissa
> (longtime lurker, infrequent poster)
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by Rick Reumann <st...@reumann.net>.
M. Bitner wrote the following on 6/30/2005 1:57 PM:
> FWIW, I do find Mark's posts to have little redeeming value and would
> prefer not to be inflicted with them.
Using Thunderbird mail client:
1) Go to tools --> Message Filters
2) Select "New"
3) On Left hand column change field to "Sender"
4) Make sure middle column has "contains"
4) In Right hand column add in mark.galbreath@gmail.com
5) Select more
6) Add in far right column mgalbreath@elections.state.md.us
7) On bottom under "Perform these actions" mark "Delete the message"
8) Click "OK"
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Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath
Posted by "M. Bitner" <mo...@gmail.com>.
On 6/30/05, erikweber@mindspring.com <er...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Sheesh man, I'm not calling for a ban on anyone, but give Niall a break. Niall is one of the most helpful people I've ever met online. Mark comes in here and says "Struts is dead" and calls everyone faggots, etc., ad nauseum. He might behave that way on many lists, but all of us who don't know him don't know that, and we're not used to it. It doesn't bother me what people say in general, but if it bothers Niall, and Joe, then suddenly it bothers me too. These guys work too hard -- for us (at least partially for us). This list is supposed to be about volunteering -- providing support for Struts. If I was a new user and I walked into this list yesterday, I'd be saying to myself, how can Struts really be any good (or worth it) if this is what it's like to hang out in the community? The committers don't deserve that. It's just a matter of showing respect for others. I wouldn't come into your house and purposely grind mud into your carpet. This is not the Internet at-large, this is the Apache Struts-user list.
>
> Independent thought and trolling aren't the same in my opinion. I'm still not for a ban on anyone, but if the committers (who do all the work) are bothered, whose side are you on? How sucky would this list *really* be if those guys (and all the other guys and gals who volunteer help every day) went away, and left us with nothing but a mail version of IRC?
>
> Erik
>
+1 what he said. :)
There is a difference between expressing conflicting viewpoints,
infantile behavior, and generally being offensive. If one person's
behavior is offensive enough to drive people away then that hurts the
Struts community rather than helps it and I would expect the
committers to try and fix the problem.
FWIW, I do find Mark's posts to have little redeeming value and would
prefer not to be inflicted with them.
Melissa
(longtime lurker, infrequent poster)
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