Plugins for OFBiz

[Sam Hamilton <sa...@virtualvillage.com>]

I was wondering if anyone has considered a way to include plugins for OFBiz
that allow communication to other software that cant be included due to the
Apache license. 
For example I can see my company needing to use Pentaho for its BI but it
cant be included in OFBiz directly due to its GLP license. Now the plugin
could be apache license compatible but it would then require a copy of the
software to work. 

It would be great if there was somewhere to store / search view etc on the
site so other people can expand OFBiz

 
Sam Hamilton

Re: Product Search on POS

[Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>]

There is nothing like that OOTB, but the backend could be used in such case.

Jacques

From: "Rajeev Gupta" <ra...@hytechpro.com>
> It looks like a simple problem, and somebody must have addressed it already.
> 
> If the agent has lost the EAN/Barcode number or there is a product without
> the bar code, but the agent knows the product name and style or group, How
> would agent search for such product on the POS? How would s/he sell such a
> product?
> 
> Thanks for any pointers.
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Rajeev Gupta
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Product Search on POS

[Rajeev Gupta <ra...@hytechpro.com>]

It looks like a simple problem, and somebody must have addressed it already.

If the agent has lost the EAN/Barcode number or there is a product without
the bar code, but the agent knows the product name and style or group, How
would agent search for such product on the POS? How would s/he sell such a
product?

Thanks for any pointers.


Best Regards,
Rajeev Gupta
HyTech Professionals
An ISO 9001:2000 Certified Company
Direct: (302) 983 3838
Fax: (801) 991 3740
Email: rajeev.gupta@hytechpro.com
Website: http://www.hytechpro.com
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Re: Plugins for OFBiz

[BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>]

Some of the components in the specialpurpose are still under development.
There is a core development of BI my japaco that can be added to and if
pantaho can be merged with that, then it would be in the core components
of ofbiz.
There is the SFA in marketing, and structure for CRM already.
just need someone to do some work to make it unified. Admin page for
assignments, and metrics.
The Mypage can be extended, if necessary but I think it covers a lot
already.

not to shot down what you suggesting but inform you that those things
are being worked on and where.

Hopefully get some energy behind the projects already in motion.


Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/18/2008 11:00 PM:
> Yes Drupal is a good example, you have core code which lends its self to be
> extended in any number of possible methods.
> 
> Another way of thinking about this is just to have a look in the special
> purpose directory, in there are modules/plugins that have been made to
> extend the features of OFBiz but when you look on the website feature list
> there is no mention.
> 
> Having one searchable directory showing how you can expand the default
> functionality of OFBiz would great even if it was an external link to the
> developers site so then other non-apache compatible licenses could be used.
> 
> It could allow people to use other software quickly with OFBiz and create
> synergy between different open source projects.  I only used Pentaho as an
> example as it was a project not finished in OFBiz but something we
> desperately need to work as a business in operation, another example would
> be CRM functionality - I am sure the other people can think of more
> examples.
> 
> I am more than happy to be shot down in flames if this makes no sense!
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: <us...@ofbiz.apache.org>
>> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:54:32 +0200
>> To: <us...@ofbiz.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Plugins for OFBiz
>>
>> David,
>> this is a great idea that will help users to share code and community to
>> grow up.
>> An example of plugins repository we could look at is the drupal's one:
>> http://drupal.org/project/Modules/name
>>
>> When the VisualTheme patch will be committed we could lso have a section of
>> the repository dedicated to the themes.
>> Or even an OFBiz installation dedicated to the themes like this for Drupal:
>> http://themegarden.org/drupal6/
>>
>> Of course having a new OFBiz framework release would help to specify the
>> plugins compatibility.
>>
>> My two cents,
>> -Bruno
>>
>>
>> 2008/8/18 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
>>
>>> will have to do #3, then get back to you.
>>>
>>> David E Jones sent the following on 8/18/2008 9:45 AM:
>>>> What was the intent of this message? Is this what you would like
>>>> included in a plugin listing?
>>>>
>>>> I guess if I was to try to play the role of a user of a plugin listing
>>>> I'd be looking for:
>>>>
>>>> 1. name of plugin
>>>> 2. short description of functionality and scope
>>>> 3. URL to download and instructions to setup
>>>> 4. current version/revision recommended and release date if applicable
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:14 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo interface allows Yahoo stores to use the back end and the
>>>>> Ecommerce side for features like getting order status, forums, that is
>>>>> linked from their site.
>>>>> Accepts the realtime order from the yahoo store and processes them like
>>>>> it was entered on the ofbiz Ecommerce side.
>>>>> Has facilities to receive Real-time Inventory and Shipping information
>>>>> that is feed back to the yahoo store.
>>>>> It allow automatic importing of the Store products into ofbiz catalogs,
>>>>> with a catalog for each Store.
>>>>> Has generic imports for supplier info and Supplier to product links.
>>>>> Outputs a CSV for import of product information into yahoo store.
>>>>> Receives UPS, Fedex Tracking information for drop shippers.
>>>>> Custom code is added for specific supplier imports, and processing
>>>>> Emails with supplier information.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a side note: the cost of implementation as one big bite is usually to
>>>>> much for a store owner. so I start them off with using the Catalog
>>>>> portion as a desktop application.
>>>>>
>>>>> David E Jones sent the following on 8/18/2008 8:39 AM:
>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone has considered a way to include plugins for
>>>>>>> OFBiz
>>>>>>> that allow communication to other software that cant be included due
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> Apache license.
>>>>>>> For example I can see my company needing to use Pentaho for its BI
>>>>>>> but it
>>>>>>> cant be included in OFBiz directly due to its GLP license. Now the
>>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>>> could be apache license compatible but it would then require a copy of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> software to work.
>>>>>> For libraries that have license issues, but that we can still write
>>> code
>>>>>> for, there are notes about their usage in the OPTIONAL_LIBRARIES in the
>>>>>> OFBiz root/home directory (along with the LICENSE, NOTICE, etc files).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are mostly older software used as going forward we try to find
>>>>>> things that are license compatible to avoid these headaches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also please note that we can't even include source code in OFBiz that
>>>>>> uses GPL libraries, the license is that restrictive. In the above file
>>>>>> you'll find things like LGPL and other licenses that are quite so...
>>>>>> viral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be great if there was somewhere to store / search view etc on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> site so other people can expand OFBiz
>>>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm guessing it goes back to the "plugin" idea, which in OFBiz is done
>>>>>> with "components" that contain sets of resources to expand OFBiz and
>>> can
>>>>>> be used to add, change, or override functionality. There has been some
>>>>>> discussion recently about how one could write components to add or
>>>>>> change look and feel options using only database data, CSS files, and
>>>>>> image files. That would be an example of this (a really simple one).
>>>>>> There are other add-in components that are basically full applications,
>>>>>> and many of the components in the specialpurpose directory are good
>>>>>> examples of this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know how many of these exist outside of the specialpurpose
>>>>>> directory, ie outside of OFBiz itself. If there were enough of them it
>>>>>> would make very good sense to have at least a page in confluence that
>>>>>> lists all of the known ones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone does have such a component they would like to share, let's
>>>>>> start with replies in this thread and then formalize something once we
>>>>>> all have a better picture of what it might look like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Plugins for OFBiz

[Sam Hamilton <sa...@virtualvillage.com>]

Yes Drupal is a good example, you have core code which lends its self to be
extended in any number of possible methods.

Another way of thinking about this is just to have a look in the special
purpose directory, in there are modules/plugins that have been made to
extend the features of OFBiz but when you look on the website feature list
there is no mention.

Having one searchable directory showing how you can expand the default
functionality of OFBiz would great even if it was an external link to the
developers site so then other non-apache compatible licenses could be used.

It could allow people to use other software quickly with OFBiz and create
synergy between different open source projects.  I only used Pentaho as an
example as it was a project not finished in OFBiz but something we
desperately need to work as a business in operation, another example would
be CRM functionality - I am sure the other people can think of more
examples.

I am more than happy to be shot down in flames if this makes no sense!



> From: Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: <us...@ofbiz.apache.org>
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:54:32 +0200
> To: <us...@ofbiz.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Plugins for OFBiz
> 
> David,
> this is a great idea that will help users to share code and community to
> grow up.
> An example of plugins repository we could look at is the drupal's one:
> http://drupal.org/project/Modules/name
> 
> When the VisualTheme patch will be committed we could lso have a section of
> the repository dedicated to the themes.
> Or even an OFBiz installation dedicated to the themes like this for Drupal:
> http://themegarden.org/drupal6/
> 
> Of course having a new OFBiz framework release would help to specify the
> plugins compatibility.
> 
> My two cents,
> -Bruno
> 
> 
> 2008/8/18 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
> 
>> will have to do #3, then get back to you.
>> 
>> David E Jones sent the following on 8/18/2008 9:45 AM:
>>> 
>>> What was the intent of this message? Is this what you would like
>>> included in a plugin listing?
>>> 
>>> I guess if I was to try to play the role of a user of a plugin listing
>>> I'd be looking for:
>>> 
>>> 1. name of plugin
>>> 2. short description of functionality and scope
>>> 3. URL to download and instructions to setup
>>> 4. current version/revision recommended and release date if applicable
>>> 
>>> -David
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:14 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yahoo interface allows Yahoo stores to use the back end and the
>>>> Ecommerce side for features like getting order status, forums, that is
>>>> linked from their site.
>>>> Accepts the realtime order from the yahoo store and processes them like
>>>> it was entered on the ofbiz Ecommerce side.
>>>> Has facilities to receive Real-time Inventory and Shipping information
>>>> that is feed back to the yahoo store.
>>>> It allow automatic importing of the Store products into ofbiz catalogs,
>>>> with a catalog for each Store.
>>>> Has generic imports for supplier info and Supplier to product links.
>>>> Outputs a CSV for import of product information into yahoo store.
>>>> Receives UPS, Fedex Tracking information for drop shippers.
>>>> Custom code is added for specific supplier imports, and processing
>>>> Emails with supplier information.
>>>> 
>>>> As a side note: the cost of implementation as one big bite is usually to
>>>> much for a store owner. so I start them off with using the Catalog
>>>> portion as a desktop application.
>>>> 
>>>> David E Jones sent the following on 8/18/2008 8:39 AM:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone has considered a way to include plugins for
>>>>>> OFBiz
>>>>>> that allow communication to other software that cant be included due
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> Apache license.
>>>>>> For example I can see my company needing to use Pentaho for its BI
>>>>>> but it
>>>>>> cant be included in OFBiz directly due to its GLP license. Now the
>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>> could be apache license compatible but it would then require a copy of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> software to work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For libraries that have license issues, but that we can still write
>> code
>>>>> for, there are notes about their usage in the OPTIONAL_LIBRARIES in the
>>>>> OFBiz root/home directory (along with the LICENSE, NOTICE, etc files).
>>>>> 
>>>>> These are mostly older software used as going forward we try to find
>>>>> things that are license compatible to avoid these headaches.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also please note that we can't even include source code in OFBiz that
>>>>> uses GPL libraries, the license is that restrictive. In the above file
>>>>> you'll find things like LGPL and other licenses that are quite so...
>>>>> viral.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It would be great if there was somewhere to store / search view etc on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> site so other people can expand OFBiz
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm guessing it goes back to the "plugin" idea, which in OFBiz is done
>>>>> with "components" that contain sets of resources to expand OFBiz and
>> can
>>>>> be used to add, change, or override functionality. There has been some
>>>>> discussion recently about how one could write components to add or
>>>>> change look and feel options using only database data, CSS files, and
>>>>> image files. That would be an example of this (a really simple one).
>>>>> There are other add-in components that are basically full applications,
>>>>> and many of the components in the specialpurpose directory are good
>>>>> examples of this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know how many of these exist outside of the specialpurpose
>>>>> directory, ie outside of OFBiz itself. If there were enough of them it
>>>>> would make very good sense to have at least a page in confluence that
>>>>> lists all of the known ones.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If anyone does have such a component they would like to share, let's
>>>>> start with replies in this thread and then formalize something once we
>>>>> all have a better picture of what it might look like.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -David
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 

Re: Plugins for OFBiz

[Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>]

David,
this is a great idea that will help users to share code and community to
grow up.
An example of plugins repository we could look at is the drupal's one:
http://drupal.org/project/Modules/name

When the VisualTheme patch will be committed we could lso have a section of
the repository dedicated to the themes.
Or even an OFBiz installation dedicated to the themes like this for Drupal:
http://themegarden.org/drupal6/

Of course having a new OFBiz framework release would help to specify the
plugins compatibility.

My two cents,
-Bruno


2008/8/18 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>

> will have to do #3, then get back to you.
>
> David E Jones sent the following on 8/18/2008 9:45 AM:
> >
> > What was the intent of this message? Is this what you would like
> > included in a plugin listing?
> >
> > I guess if I was to try to play the role of a user of a plugin listing
> > I'd be looking for:
> >
> > 1. name of plugin
> > 2. short description of functionality and scope
> > 3. URL to download and instructions to setup
> > 4. current version/revision recommended and release date if applicable
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
> > On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:14 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> >
> >> Yahoo interface allows Yahoo stores to use the back end and the
> >> Ecommerce side for features like getting order status, forums, that is
> >> linked from their site.
> >> Accepts the realtime order from the yahoo store and processes them like
> >> it was entered on the ofbiz Ecommerce side.
> >> Has facilities to receive Real-time Inventory and Shipping information
> >> that is feed back to the yahoo store.
> >> It allow automatic importing of the Store products into ofbiz catalogs,
> >> with a catalog for each Store.
> >> Has generic imports for supplier info and Supplier to product links.
> >> Outputs a CSV for import of product information into yahoo store.
> >> Receives UPS, Fedex Tracking information for drop shippers.
> >> Custom code is added for specific supplier imports, and processing
> >> Emails with supplier information.
> >>
> >> As a side note: the cost of implementation as one big bite is usually to
> >> much for a store owner. so I start them off with using the Catalog
> >> portion as a desktop application.
> >>
> >> David E Jones sent the following on 8/18/2008 8:39 AM:
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I was wondering if anyone has considered a way to include plugins for
> >>>> OFBiz
> >>>> that allow communication to other software that cant be included due
> >>>> to the
> >>>> Apache license.
> >>>> For example I can see my company needing to use Pentaho for its BI
> >>>> but it
> >>>> cant be included in OFBiz directly due to its GLP license. Now the
> >>>> plugin
> >>>> could be apache license compatible but it would then require a copy of
> >>>> the
> >>>> software to work.
> >>>
> >>> For libraries that have license issues, but that we can still write
> code
> >>> for, there are notes about their usage in the OPTIONAL_LIBRARIES in the
> >>> OFBiz root/home directory (along with the LICENSE, NOTICE, etc files).
> >>>
> >>> These are mostly older software used as going forward we try to find
> >>> things that are license compatible to avoid these headaches.
> >>>
> >>> Also please note that we can't even include source code in OFBiz that
> >>> uses GPL libraries, the license is that restrictive. In the above file
> >>> you'll find things like LGPL and other licenses that are quite so...
> >>> viral.
> >>>
> >>>> It would be great if there was somewhere to store / search view etc on
> >>>> the
> >>>> site so other people can expand OFBiz
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
> >>>
> >>> I'm guessing it goes back to the "plugin" idea, which in OFBiz is done
> >>> with "components" that contain sets of resources to expand OFBiz and
> can
> >>> be used to add, change, or override functionality. There has been some
> >>> discussion recently about how one could write components to add or
> >>> change look and feel options using only database data, CSS files, and
> >>> image files. That would be an example of this (a really simple one).
> >>> There are other add-in components that are basically full applications,
> >>> and many of the components in the specialpurpose directory are good
> >>> examples of this.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know how many of these exist outside of the specialpurpose
> >>> directory, ie outside of OFBiz itself. If there were enough of them it
> >>> would make very good sense to have at least a page in confluence that
> >>> lists all of the known ones.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone does have such a component they would like to share, let's
> >>> start with replies in this thread and then formalize something once we
> >>> all have a better picture of what it might look like.
> >>>
> >>> -David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Plugins for OFBiz

[BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>]

will have to do #3, then get back to you.

David E Jones sent the following on 8/18/2008 9:45 AM:
> 
> What was the intent of this message? Is this what you would like
> included in a plugin listing?
> 
> I guess if I was to try to play the role of a user of a plugin listing
> I'd be looking for:
> 
> 1. name of plugin
> 2. short description of functionality and scope
> 3. URL to download and instructions to setup
> 4. current version/revision recommended and release date if applicable
> 
> -David
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:14 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> 
>> Yahoo interface allows Yahoo stores to use the back end and the
>> Ecommerce side for features like getting order status, forums, that is
>> linked from their site.
>> Accepts the realtime order from the yahoo store and processes them like
>> it was entered on the ofbiz Ecommerce side.
>> Has facilities to receive Real-time Inventory and Shipping information
>> that is feed back to the yahoo store.
>> It allow automatic importing of the Store products into ofbiz catalogs,
>> with a catalog for each Store.
>> Has generic imports for supplier info and Supplier to product links.
>> Outputs a CSV for import of product information into yahoo store.
>> Receives UPS, Fedex Tracking information for drop shippers.
>> Custom code is added for specific supplier imports, and processing
>> Emails with supplier information.
>>
>> As a side note: the cost of implementation as one big bite is usually to
>> much for a store owner. so I start them off with using the Catalog
>> portion as a desktop application.
>>
>> David E Jones sent the following on 8/18/2008 8:39 AM:
>>>
>>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was wondering if anyone has considered a way to include plugins for
>>>> OFBiz
>>>> that allow communication to other software that cant be included due
>>>> to the
>>>> Apache license.
>>>> For example I can see my company needing to use Pentaho for its BI
>>>> but it
>>>> cant be included in OFBiz directly due to its GLP license. Now the
>>>> plugin
>>>> could be apache license compatible but it would then require a copy of
>>>> the
>>>> software to work.
>>>
>>> For libraries that have license issues, but that we can still write code
>>> for, there are notes about their usage in the OPTIONAL_LIBRARIES in the
>>> OFBiz root/home directory (along with the LICENSE, NOTICE, etc files).
>>>
>>> These are mostly older software used as going forward we try to find
>>> things that are license compatible to avoid these headaches.
>>>
>>> Also please note that we can't even include source code in OFBiz that
>>> uses GPL libraries, the license is that restrictive. In the above file
>>> you'll find things like LGPL and other licenses that are quite so...
>>> viral.
>>>
>>>> It would be great if there was somewhere to store / search view etc on
>>>> the
>>>> site so other people can expand OFBiz
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
>>>
>>> I'm guessing it goes back to the "plugin" idea, which in OFBiz is done
>>> with "components" that contain sets of resources to expand OFBiz and can
>>> be used to add, change, or override functionality. There has been some
>>> discussion recently about how one could write components to add or
>>> change look and feel options using only database data, CSS files, and
>>> image files. That would be an example of this (a really simple one).
>>> There are other add-in components that are basically full applications,
>>> and many of the components in the specialpurpose directory are good
>>> examples of this.
>>>
>>> I don't know how many of these exist outside of the specialpurpose
>>> directory, ie outside of OFBiz itself. If there were enough of them it
>>> would make very good sense to have at least a page in confluence that
>>> lists all of the known ones.
>>>
>>> If anyone does have such a component they would like to share, let's
>>> start with replies in this thread and then formalize something once we
>>> all have a better picture of what it might look like.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Plugins for OFBiz

[David E Jones <jo...@hotwaxmedia.com>]

What was the intent of this message? Is this what you would like  
included in a plugin listing?

I guess if I was to try to play the role of a user of a plugin listing  
I'd be looking for:

1. name of plugin
2. short description of functionality and scope
3. URL to download and instructions to setup
4. current version/revision recommended and release date if applicable

-David


On Aug 18, 2008, at 10:14 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> Yahoo interface allows Yahoo stores to use the back end and the
> Ecommerce side for features like getting order status, forums, that is
> linked from their site.
> Accepts the realtime order from the yahoo store and processes them  
> like
> it was entered on the ofbiz Ecommerce side.
> Has facilities to receive Real-time Inventory and Shipping information
> that is feed back to the yahoo store.
> It allow automatic importing of the Store products into ofbiz  
> catalogs,
> with a catalog for each Store.
> Has generic imports for supplier info and Supplier to product links.
> Outputs a CSV for import of product information into yahoo store.
> Receives UPS, Fedex Tracking information for drop shippers.
> Custom code is added for specific supplier imports, and processing
> Emails with supplier information.
>
> As a side note: the cost of implementation as one big bite is  
> usually to
> much for a store owner. so I start them off with using the Catalog
> portion as a desktop application.
>
> David E Jones sent the following on 8/18/2008 8:39 AM:
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone has considered a way to include plugins  
>>> for
>>> OFBiz
>>> that allow communication to other software that cant be included due
>>> to the
>>> Apache license.
>>> For example I can see my company needing to use Pentaho for its BI  
>>> but it
>>> cant be included in OFBiz directly due to its GLP license. Now the  
>>> plugin
>>> could be apache license compatible but it would then require a  
>>> copy of
>>> the
>>> software to work.
>>
>> For libraries that have license issues, but that we can still write  
>> code
>> for, there are notes about their usage in the OPTIONAL_LIBRARIES in  
>> the
>> OFBiz root/home directory (along with the LICENSE, NOTICE, etc  
>> files).
>>
>> These are mostly older software used as going forward we try to find
>> things that are license compatible to avoid these headaches.
>>
>> Also please note that we can't even include source code in OFBiz that
>> uses GPL libraries, the license is that restrictive. In the above  
>> file
>> you'll find things like LGPL and other licenses that are quite  
>> so... viral.
>>
>>> It would be great if there was somewhere to store / search view  
>>> etc on
>>> the
>>> site so other people can expand OFBiz
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
>>
>> I'm guessing it goes back to the "plugin" idea, which in OFBiz is  
>> done
>> with "components" that contain sets of resources to expand OFBiz  
>> and can
>> be used to add, change, or override functionality. There has been  
>> some
>> discussion recently about how one could write components to add or
>> change look and feel options using only database data, CSS files, and
>> image files. That would be an example of this (a really simple one).
>> There are other add-in components that are basically full  
>> applications,
>> and many of the components in the specialpurpose directory are good
>> examples of this.
>>
>> I don't know how many of these exist outside of the specialpurpose
>> directory, ie outside of OFBiz itself. If there were enough of them  
>> it
>> would make very good sense to have at least a page in confluence that
>> lists all of the known ones.
>>
>> If anyone does have such a component they would like to share, let's
>> start with replies in this thread and then formalize something once  
>> we
>> all have a better picture of what it might look like.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Plugins for OFBiz

[BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>]

Yahoo interface allows Yahoo stores to use the back end and the
Ecommerce side for features like getting order status, forums, that is
linked from their site.
Accepts the realtime order from the yahoo store and processes them like
it was entered on the ofbiz Ecommerce side.
Has facilities to receive Real-time Inventory and Shipping information
that is feed back to the yahoo store.
It allow automatic importing of the Store products into ofbiz catalogs,
with a catalog for each Store.
Has generic imports for supplier info and Supplier to product links.
Outputs a CSV for import of product information into yahoo store.
Receives UPS, Fedex Tracking information for drop shippers.
Custom code is added for specific supplier imports, and processing
Emails with supplier information.

As a side note: the cost of implementation as one big bite is usually to
much for a store owner. so I start them off with using the Catalog
portion as a desktop application.

David E Jones sent the following on 8/18/2008 8:39 AM:
> 
> On Aug 18, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:
> 
>> I was wondering if anyone has considered a way to include plugins for
>> OFBiz
>> that allow communication to other software that cant be included due
>> to the
>> Apache license.
>> For example I can see my company needing to use Pentaho for its BI but it
>> cant be included in OFBiz directly due to its GLP license. Now the plugin
>> could be apache license compatible but it would then require a copy of
>> the
>> software to work.
> 
> For libraries that have license issues, but that we can still write code
> for, there are notes about their usage in the OPTIONAL_LIBRARIES in the
> OFBiz root/home directory (along with the LICENSE, NOTICE, etc files).
> 
> These are mostly older software used as going forward we try to find
> things that are license compatible to avoid these headaches.
> 
> Also please note that we can't even include source code in OFBiz that
> uses GPL libraries, the license is that restrictive. In the above file
> you'll find things like LGPL and other licenses that are quite so... viral.
> 
>> It would be great if there was somewhere to store / search view etc on
>> the
>> site so other people can expand OFBiz
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
> 
> I'm guessing it goes back to the "plugin" idea, which in OFBiz is done
> with "components" that contain sets of resources to expand OFBiz and can
> be used to add, change, or override functionality. There has been some
> discussion recently about how one could write components to add or
> change look and feel options using only database data, CSS files, and
> image files. That would be an example of this (a really simple one).
> There are other add-in components that are basically full applications,
> and many of the components in the specialpurpose directory are good
> examples of this.
> 
> I don't know how many of these exist outside of the specialpurpose
> directory, ie outside of OFBiz itself. If there were enough of them it
> would make very good sense to have at least a page in confluence that
> lists all of the known ones.
> 
> If anyone does have such a component they would like to share, let's
> start with replies in this thread and then formalize something once we
> all have a better picture of what it might look like.
> 
> -David
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Plugins for OFBiz

[David E Jones <jo...@hotwaxmedia.com>]

On Aug 18, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Sam Hamilton wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone has considered a way to include plugins  
> for OFBiz
> that allow communication to other software that cant be included due  
> to the
> Apache license.
> For example I can see my company needing to use Pentaho for its BI  
> but it
> cant be included in OFBiz directly due to its GLP license. Now the  
> plugin
> could be apache license compatible but it would then require a copy  
> of the
> software to work.

For libraries that have license issues, but that we can still write  
code for, there are notes about their usage in the OPTIONAL_LIBRARIES  
in the OFBiz root/home directory (along with the LICENSE, NOTICE, etc  
files).

These are mostly older software used as going forward we try to find  
things that are license compatible to avoid these headaches.

Also please note that we can't even include source code in OFBiz that  
uses GPL libraries, the license is that restrictive. In the above file  
you'll find things like LGPL and other licenses that are quite so...  
viral.

> It would be great if there was somewhere to store / search view etc  
> on the
> site so other people can expand OFBiz

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?

I'm guessing it goes back to the "plugin" idea, which in OFBiz is done  
with "components" that contain sets of resources to expand OFBiz and  
can be used to add, change, or override functionality. There has been  
some discussion recently about how one could write components to add  
or change look and feel options using only database data, CSS files,  
and image files. That would be an example of this (a really simple  
one). There are other add-in components that are basically full  
applications, and many of the components in the specialpurpose  
directory are good examples of this.

I don't know how many of these exist outside of the specialpurpose  
directory, ie outside of OFBiz itself. If there were enough of them it  
would make very good sense to have at least a page in confluence that  
lists all of the known ones.

If anyone does have such a component they would like to share, let's  
start with replies in this thread and then formalize something once we  
all have a better picture of what it might look like.

-David

Re: Plugins for OFBiz

[BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>]

what type of communications are you looking for?
there is a BI component being developed in ofbiz.

Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/18/2008 12:40 AM:
> I was wondering if anyone has considered a way to include plugins for OFBiz
> that allow communication to other software that cant be included due to the
> Apache license. 
> For example I can see my company needing to use Pentaho for its BI but it
> cant be included in OFBiz directly due to its GLP license. Now the plugin
> could be apache license compatible but it would then require a copy of the
> software to work. 
> 
> It would be great if there was somewhere to store / search view etc on the
> site so other people can expand OFBiz
> 
>  
> Sam Hamilton
> 
>