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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> on 2013/11/28 08:42:21 UTC
Donation News
I finally got a clean-looking scan on a bunch of Adobe stuff. I will be
submitting it to Legal for review next week (reminder that the US is on
holiday Thursday and Friday). Then, unless Legal sees something it
doesn't like, I have to get some business folks and a VP to sign off and
then I replace any remaining Adobe headers with Apache headers and start
checking it in. Still hoping to get it done in December.
Contents of this donation will hopefully be:
1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
2. A newer version of FDB that supports workers
3. FlexPMD
4. The Mobile Trader demo app
5. A spec for MXML
6. Some files that are needed to complete the BlazeDS donation
7. As much of Squiggly as I could find
8. TourDeFlex
The BlazeDS donation is otherwise ready except for the files I mentioned
in #6. With those files, the BlazeDS build scripts seems to run
successfully. Testing is still needed of course, but will happen
post-donation if we can find a volunteer.
Some things to think about:
A) The ADC content is full of references to stylesheets that give it its
look and feel. I haven't put the stylesheets in the donation because I'm
pretty sure the Adobe business folks will want us to come up with a
different look.
B) For various copyright reasons, many of the images in the ADC examples
could not be donated and have been replaced by copies of other ADC images.
At some point, we may need to spend time on fixing this up
C) Where do we check in the ADC content? Does it just go in SVN for the
web-site?
D) A few files in the FlexPMD trunk belong to third-parties and therefore
not in the donation. It looks like it was just a few tests and bug test
cases. However, I'm not planning to fix up the build script.
E) Where do we check in FlexPMD? I think flex-utilities
F) TourDeFlex and the FlexStore example on the ADC use images of Nokia
phones. These images will not be donated. Anybody in the mood to
generate 22 different phone images? It is probably better if they are
hand-drawn and not photos of a real phone.
-Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 11/28/13 6:43 PM, "Paul Hastings" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 11/28/2013 2:42 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>> 1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
>
>does that include content from http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex.html ?
>
>there's lots of good stuff there, hate to see it disappear.
I don't know how soon it will disappear from the Adobe site, if ever, but
we are only donating articles written by Adobe employees and have a high
number of visits over the past year or so.
The list is:
Flex In A Week
Flex Test Drive
Flex Test Drive For Mobile
And these articles:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/mobile-development-flex-flashbuil
der.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex3and4_differences.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/itemrenderers_pt1.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/employee-directory-android-flex.h
tml
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/interactive_maps.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/mobile-skinning-part1.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex-mobile-performance-checklist
.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flashbuilder_blazeds.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/spark_layouts.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex-mobile-development-tips-tric
ks-pt4.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/databinding_pitfalls.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex4_skinning.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex4_viewport_scrolling.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex_ant_pt1.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex4_effects_pt1.html
Note that any of these articles might get pulled if Legal finds something
wrong with them.
-Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Paul Hastings <pa...@gmail.com>.
On 11/28/2013 2:42 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> 1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
does that include content from http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex.html ?
there's lots of good stuff there, hate to see it disappear.
Re: Donation News
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
I mean a programmatic schema, i.e. an XSD file. It is also possible that
Adobe used the Relax NG [1] format for defining the schema. Tools like
Flash Pro, Fireworks, Illustrator, etc. must have something like this to
make the 'Export to FXG' option work.
Thanks,
Om
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RELAX_NG
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> The FXG spec is here [1]
>
> Why do we need to donate it?
>
> -Alex
>
> [1]
> http://sourceforge.net/adobe/flexsdk/wiki/FXG%202.0%20Specification/
>
> On 12/2/13 11:39 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Gordon Smith <go...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The spec I wrote is for MXML 2006 and MXML 2009 (with various sections
> >> remaining incomplete) and it also contains proposals for a new dialect
> >>to
> >> fix various inconsistencies. It doesn't cover MXMLG/FXG, but I think
> >>Adobe
> >> had a spec for that and maybe Alex could arrange for it to be donated as
> >> well.
> >>
> >>
> >Thanks for the info, Gordon. I have been asking for the MXMLG/FXG spec
> >for
> >a while now. So, if that is something that could be donated, it will be
> >of
> >a big help for the FlexJS project.
> >
> >Alex, my intention is to write an XSLT translator to make MXMLG/FXG and
> >SVG
> >to seamlessly work together. I have the beginnings of such an XSLT
> >available here [1] and a basic example here[2]
> >
> >But if we have a programatic spec for FXG available, I can plug it in into
> >a tool like Altova MapForce [3] to automatically generate an XSLT for FXG
> ><-> SVG conversion. This would speed up things a lot and makes visual
> >fidelity matching between Flash and HTML5 apps that much closer.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Om
> >
> >
> >[1]
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flex-asjs/blob/develop/fxg2svg/transform/transfo
> >rm.xslt
> >[2] http://people.apache.org/~bigosmallm/fxg2svg/svg.html
> >[3] http://www.altova.com/mapforce.html
> >
> >
> >> - Gordon
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:00 AM
> >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Donation News
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/27/13 11:55 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bi...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >> >Alex,
> >> >
> >> >What a great news, right in time for Thanksgiving! Thanks for getting
> >> >this through.
> >> It isn't "through" yet. It just means that I've pulled out all the
> >> un-donatable stuff I could find and now it is time for Adobe Legal and
> >> others to review it.
> >> >
> >> >What format is the MXML spec in?
> >> MS Word.
> >> >Does it include MXMLG/FXG?
> >> Not sure. Gordon wrote it.
> >>
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
The FXG spec is here [1]
Why do we need to donate it?
-Alex
[1]
http://sourceforge.net/adobe/flexsdk/wiki/FXG%202.0%20Specification/
On 12/2/13 11:39 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Gordon Smith <go...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> The spec I wrote is for MXML 2006 and MXML 2009 (with various sections
>> remaining incomplete) and it also contains proposals for a new dialect
>>to
>> fix various inconsistencies. It doesn't cover MXMLG/FXG, but I think
>>Adobe
>> had a spec for that and maybe Alex could arrange for it to be donated as
>> well.
>>
>>
>Thanks for the info, Gordon. I have been asking for the MXMLG/FXG spec
>for
>a while now. So, if that is something that could be donated, it will be
>of
>a big help for the FlexJS project.
>
>Alex, my intention is to write an XSLT translator to make MXMLG/FXG and
>SVG
>to seamlessly work together. I have the beginnings of such an XSLT
>available here [1] and a basic example here[2]
>
>But if we have a programatic spec for FXG available, I can plug it in into
>a tool like Altova MapForce [3] to automatically generate an XSLT for FXG
><-> SVG conversion. This would speed up things a lot and makes visual
>fidelity matching between Flash and HTML5 apps that much closer.
>
>Thanks,
>Om
>
>
>[1]
>https://github.com/apache/flex-asjs/blob/develop/fxg2svg/transform/transfo
>rm.xslt
>[2] http://people.apache.org/~bigosmallm/fxg2svg/svg.html
>[3] http://www.altova.com/mapforce.html
>
>
>> - Gordon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:00 AM
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Donation News
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/27/13 11:55 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bi...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>> >Alex,
>> >
>> >What a great news, right in time for Thanksgiving! Thanks for getting
>> >this through.
>> It isn't "through" yet. It just means that I've pulled out all the
>> un-donatable stuff I could find and now it is time for Adobe Legal and
>> others to review it.
>> >
>> >What format is the MXML spec in?
>> MS Word.
>> >Does it include MXMLG/FXG?
>> Not sure. Gordon wrote it.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>>
Re: Donation News
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Gordon Smith <go...@adobe.com> wrote:
> The spec I wrote is for MXML 2006 and MXML 2009 (with various sections
> remaining incomplete) and it also contains proposals for a new dialect to
> fix various inconsistencies. It doesn't cover MXMLG/FXG, but I think Adobe
> had a spec for that and maybe Alex could arrange for it to be donated as
> well.
>
>
Thanks for the info, Gordon. I have been asking for the MXMLG/FXG spec for
a while now. So, if that is something that could be donated, it will be of
a big help for the FlexJS project.
Alex, my intention is to write an XSLT translator to make MXMLG/FXG and SVG
to seamlessly work together. I have the beginnings of such an XSLT
available here [1] and a basic example here[2]
But if we have a programatic spec for FXG available, I can plug it in into
a tool like Altova MapForce [3] to automatically generate an XSLT for FXG
<-> SVG conversion. This would speed up things a lot and makes visual
fidelity matching between Flash and HTML5 apps that much closer.
Thanks,
Om
[1]
https://github.com/apache/flex-asjs/blob/develop/fxg2svg/transform/transform.xslt
[2] http://people.apache.org/~bigosmallm/fxg2svg/svg.html
[3] http://www.altova.com/mapforce.html
> - Gordon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:00 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Donation News
>
>
>
> On 11/27/13 11:55 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Alex,
> >
> >What a great news, right in time for Thanksgiving! Thanks for getting
> >this through.
> It isn't "through" yet. It just means that I've pulled out all the
> un-donatable stuff I could find and now it is time for Adobe Legal and
> others to review it.
> >
> >What format is the MXML spec in?
> MS Word.
> >Does it include MXMLG/FXG?
> Not sure. Gordon wrote it.
>
> -Alex
>
>
RE: Donation News
Posted by Gordon Smith <go...@adobe.com>.
The spec I wrote is for MXML 2006 and MXML 2009 (with various sections remaining incomplete) and it also contains proposals for a new dialect to fix various inconsistencies. It doesn't cover MXMLG/FXG, but I think Adobe had a spec for that and maybe Alex could arrange for it to be donated as well.
- Gordon
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:00 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Donation News
On 11/27/13 11:55 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Alex,
>
>What a great news, right in time for Thanksgiving! Thanks for getting
>this through.
It isn't "through" yet. It just means that I've pulled out all the un-donatable stuff I could find and now it is time for Adobe Legal and others to review it.
>
>What format is the MXML spec in?
MS Word.
>Does it include MXMLG/FXG?
Not sure. Gordon wrote it.
-Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 11/27/13 11:55 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Alex,
>
>What a great news, right in time for Thanksgiving! Thanks for getting
>this
>through.
It isn't "through" yet. It just means that I've pulled out all the
un-donatable stuff I could find and now it is time for Adobe Legal and
others to review it.
>
>What format is the MXML spec in?
MS Word.
>Does it include MXMLG/FXG?
Not sure. Gordon wrote it.
-Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Alex,
What a great news, right in time for Thanksgiving! Thanks for getting this
through.
What format is the MXML spec in?
Does it include MXMLG/FXG?
I agree, FlexPMD can go into flex-utilities.
Thanks,
Om
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> Alex, great news!
>
> Some thoughts:
>
> A) can you at least include the original stylesheets with the
> understanding we can't use the as-is? It's much easier to change
> existing stylesheets than it will be to reverse engineers them
> C) seems logical
> F) the interwebs must contain enough 'generic' phone images that come
> with a permissive license...
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > I finally got a clean-looking scan on a bunch of Adobe stuff. I will be
> > submitting it to Legal for review next week (reminder that the US is on
> > holiday Thursday and Friday). Then, unless Legal sees something it
> > doesn't like, I have to get some business folks and a VP to sign off and
> > then I replace any remaining Adobe headers with Apache headers and start
> > checking it in. Still hoping to get it done in December.
> >
> > Contents of this donation will hopefully be:
> >
> > 1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
> > 2. A newer version of FDB that supports workers
> > 3. FlexPMD
> > 4. The Mobile Trader demo app
> > 5. A spec for MXML
> > 6. Some files that are needed to complete the BlazeDS donation
> > 7. As much of Squiggly as I could find
> > 8. TourDeFlex
> >
> > The BlazeDS donation is otherwise ready except for the files I mentioned
> > in #6. With those files, the BlazeDS build scripts seems to run
> > successfully. Testing is still needed of course, but will happen
> > post-donation if we can find a volunteer.
> >
> > Some things to think about:
> > A) The ADC content is full of references to stylesheets that give it its
> > look and feel. I haven't put the stylesheets in the donation because I'm
> > pretty sure the Adobe business folks will want us to come up with a
> > different look.
> > B) For various copyright reasons, many of the images in the ADC examples
> > could not be donated and have been replaced by copies of other ADC
> images.
> > At some point, we may need to spend time on fixing this up
> > C) Where do we check in the ADC content? Does it just go in SVN for the
> > web-site?
> > D) A few files in the FlexPMD trunk belong to third-parties and therefore
> > not in the donation. It looks like it was just a few tests and bug test
> > cases. However, I'm not planning to fix up the build script.
> > E) Where do we check in FlexPMD? I think flex-utilities
> > F) TourDeFlex and the FlexStore example on the ADC use images of Nokia
> > phones. These images will not be donated. Anybody in the mood to
> > generate 22 different phone images? It is probably better if they are
> > hand-drawn and not photos of a real phone.
> >
> > -Alex
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ix Multimedia Software
>
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> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295
> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Ah, I get it. Makes sense.
On 11/28/13 10:01 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <ma...@systar.com>
wrote:
>You wrote "F) TourDeFlex and the FlexStore example on the ADC use images
>of Nokia phones. These images will not be donated. Anybody in the mood
>to generate 22 different phone images? It is probably better if they are
>hand-drawn and not photos of a real phone."
>
>TourDeFlex indeed uses Nokia phones images for Flex3 itemRenderers
>TourDeFlex > Flex 3 > Coding techniques > Item Renderers
>
>I am referring to the images in TourDeFlex and propose to replace the
>example by something else not using phone images, like what is done in
>TourDeFlex Flex4 itemRenderers.
>
>That's all.
>
>Maurice
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
>Envoyé : jeudi 28 novembre 2013 18:45
>À : dev@flex.apache.org
>Objet : Re: Donation News
>
>
>
>On 11/28/13 2:31 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <ma...@systar.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Thanks Alex, great news.
>>
>>Regarding Tour de Flex "Nokia" images:
>>As far as I can see, the Nokia images (old 2004 models) are used in
>>Flex
>>3 itemRenderers ( Flex 3 > Coding techniques > Item Renderers).
>>The same itemRenderers section in Flex4 is using "neutral" sport items.
>>So maybe we could do the same.
>I'm not sure what files you are referring to. The Nokia images shouldn't
>be in the Apache Flex repos. If they made it in, we'll have to go and
>remove them. I can check if we can load them from the Adobe site, but I
>think it is better if we have our own image assets in our repos.
>
>-Alex
>
RE: Donation News
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
You wrote "F) TourDeFlex and the FlexStore example on the ADC use images of Nokia phones. These images will not be donated. Anybody in the mood to generate 22 different phone images? It is probably better if they are hand-drawn and not photos of a real phone."
TourDeFlex indeed uses Nokia phones images for Flex3 itemRenderers
TourDeFlex > Flex 3 > Coding techniques > Item Renderers
I am referring to the images in TourDeFlex and propose to replace the example by something else not using phone images, like what is done in TourDeFlex Flex4 itemRenderers.
That's all.
Maurice
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 28 novembre 2013 18:45
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Donation News
On 11/28/13 2:31 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <ma...@systar.com>
wrote:
>Thanks Alex, great news.
>
>Regarding Tour de Flex "Nokia" images:
>As far as I can see, the Nokia images (old 2004 models) are used in
>Flex
>3 itemRenderers ( Flex 3 > Coding techniques > Item Renderers).
>The same itemRenderers section in Flex4 is using "neutral" sport items.
>So maybe we could do the same.
I'm not sure what files you are referring to. The Nokia images shouldn't
be in the Apache Flex repos. If they made it in, we'll have to go and
remove them. I can check if we can load them from the Adobe site, but I think it is better if we have our own image assets in our repos.
-Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
I'm only donating what you gave me.
On 12/2/13 11:27 AM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" <ni...@spoon.as> wrote:
>Alex,
>
>I hope the version of TourDeFlex is different than the one I made ready
>for
>the donation -- the version sent to me was the Flex 3 version and not the
>4.0 one...
>
>-Nick
>
>
>On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Interesting. That's not in the donation. Maybe some things were pulled
>> before it was given to me for review.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 11/30/13 9:52 AM, "Mark Kessler" <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Wow, that was an issue waiting to happen. All their photos and names
>>in
>> >the assets. Good find.
>> >
>> >-Mark
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Maurice Amsellem <
>> >maurice.amsellem@systar.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> While we are at image copyright,
>> >>
>> >> Tour De Flex Flex4 custom item renderers :
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>http://tourdeflex.adobe.com/flex4.0/CustomItemRendererWithEffects/srcview
>> >>/index.html (look into the assets directory)
>> >>
>> >> Uses pictures from 2005 NBC's series "The Office"
>> >> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/ with known actors such as Steve
>> >> Carell.
>> >>
>> >> I would be surprized that these pictures would have been "donated" .
>> >>
>> >> Maurice
>> >>
>> >> -----Message d'origine-----
>> >> De : Mark Kessler [mailto:kesslerconsulting@gmail.com]
>> >> Envoyé : samedi 30 novembre 2013 17:00
>> >> À : Dev@Flex
>> >> Objet : Re: Donation News
>> >>
>> >> Here is a very basic vector, I kept it simple so it would be more
>> >> versatile with quite a few layers [1]. Can always change out the
>> >>buttons,
>> >> or maybe add content to the screen to make it look like several
>> >>different
>> >> phones. If you wanted colorful cases, I would probably have to make
>> >> profile-ish angled picture.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not much of an artist for this, but I have some tricks to get
>>things
>> >> done.
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>>http://people.apache.org/~mkessler/pics/examples/cellphone%2001.png
>> >>
>> >> -Mark
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>
>>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It didn't for me. But I'm sure it looks better than anything I
>>would
>> >> > drawŠ
>> >> >
>> >> > -Alex
>> >>
>>
>>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
Alex,
I hope the version of TourDeFlex is different than the one I made ready for
the donation -- the version sent to me was the Flex 3 version and not the
4.0 one...
-Nick
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Interesting. That's not in the donation. Maybe some things were pulled
> before it was given to me for review.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 11/30/13 9:52 AM, "Mark Kessler" <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Wow, that was an issue waiting to happen. All their photos and names in
> >the assets. Good find.
> >
> >-Mark
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Maurice Amsellem <
> >maurice.amsellem@systar.com> wrote:
> >
> >> While we are at image copyright,
> >>
> >> Tour De Flex Flex4 custom item renderers :
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://tourdeflex.adobe.com/flex4.0/CustomItemRendererWithEffects/srcview
> >>/index.html (look into the assets directory)
> >>
> >> Uses pictures from 2005 NBC's series "The Office"
> >> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/ with known actors such as Steve
> >> Carell.
> >>
> >> I would be surprized that these pictures would have been "donated" .
> >>
> >> Maurice
> >>
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : Mark Kessler [mailto:kesslerconsulting@gmail.com]
> >> Envoyé : samedi 30 novembre 2013 17:00
> >> À : Dev@Flex
> >> Objet : Re: Donation News
> >>
> >> Here is a very basic vector, I kept it simple so it would be more
> >> versatile with quite a few layers [1]. Can always change out the
> >>buttons,
> >> or maybe add content to the screen to make it look like several
> >>different
> >> phones. If you wanted colorful cases, I would probably have to make
> >> profile-ish angled picture.
> >>
> >> I'm not much of an artist for this, but I have some tricks to get things
> >> done.
> >>
> >> [1] http://people.apache.org/~mkessler/pics/examples/cellphone%2001.png
> >>
> >> -Mark
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > It didn't for me. But I'm sure it looks better than anything I would
> >> > drawŠ
> >> >
> >> > -Alex
> >>
>
>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Interesting. That's not in the donation. Maybe some things were pulled
before it was given to me for review.
-Alex
On 11/30/13 9:52 AM, "Mark Kessler" <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Wow, that was an issue waiting to happen. All their photos and names in
>the assets. Good find.
>
>-Mark
>
>
>On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Maurice Amsellem <
>maurice.amsellem@systar.com> wrote:
>
>> While we are at image copyright,
>>
>> Tour De Flex Flex4 custom item renderers :
>>
>>
>>http://tourdeflex.adobe.com/flex4.0/CustomItemRendererWithEffects/srcview
>>/index.html (look into the assets directory)
>>
>> Uses pictures from 2005 NBC's series "The Office"
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/ with known actors such as Steve
>> Carell.
>>
>> I would be surprized that these pictures would have been "donated" .
>>
>> Maurice
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Mark Kessler [mailto:kesslerconsulting@gmail.com]
>> Envoyé : samedi 30 novembre 2013 17:00
>> À : Dev@Flex
>> Objet : Re: Donation News
>>
>> Here is a very basic vector, I kept it simple so it would be more
>> versatile with quite a few layers [1]. Can always change out the
>>buttons,
>> or maybe add content to the screen to make it look like several
>>different
>> phones. If you wanted colorful cases, I would probably have to make
>> profile-ish angled picture.
>>
>> I'm not much of an artist for this, but I have some tricks to get things
>> done.
>>
>> [1] http://people.apache.org/~mkessler/pics/examples/cellphone%2001.png
>>
>> -Mark
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>> > It didn't for me. But I'm sure it looks better than anything I would
>> > drawŠ
>> >
>> > -Alex
>>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Mark Kessler <ke...@gmail.com>.
Wow, that was an issue waiting to happen. All their photos and names in
the assets. Good find.
-Mark
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Maurice Amsellem <
maurice.amsellem@systar.com> wrote:
> While we are at image copyright,
>
> Tour De Flex Flex4 custom item renderers :
>
> http://tourdeflex.adobe.com/flex4.0/CustomItemRendererWithEffects/srcview/index.html (look into the assets directory)
>
> Uses pictures from 2005 NBC's series "The Office"
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/ with known actors such as Steve
> Carell.
>
> I would be surprized that these pictures would have been "donated" .
>
> Maurice
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Mark Kessler [mailto:kesslerconsulting@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : samedi 30 novembre 2013 17:00
> À : Dev@Flex
> Objet : Re: Donation News
>
> Here is a very basic vector, I kept it simple so it would be more
> versatile with quite a few layers [1]. Can always change out the buttons,
> or maybe add content to the screen to make it look like several different
> phones. If you wanted colorful cases, I would probably have to make
> profile-ish angled picture.
>
> I'm not much of an artist for this, but I have some tricks to get things
> done.
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~mkessler/pics/examples/cellphone%2001.png
>
> -Mark
>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > It didn't for me. But I'm sure it looks better than anything I would
> > drawŠ
> >
> > -Alex
>
RE: Donation News
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
While we are at image copyright,
Tour De Flex Flex4 custom item renderers :
http://tourdeflex.adobe.com/flex4.0/CustomItemRendererWithEffects/srcview/index.html (look into the assets directory)
Uses pictures from 2005 NBC's series "The Office" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/ with known actors such as Steve Carell.
I would be surprized that these pictures would have been "donated" .
Maurice
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Mark Kessler [mailto:kesslerconsulting@gmail.com]
Envoyé : samedi 30 novembre 2013 17:00
À : Dev@Flex
Objet : Re: Donation News
Here is a very basic vector, I kept it simple so it would be more versatile with quite a few layers [1]. Can always change out the buttons, or maybe add content to the screen to make it look like several different phones. If you wanted colorful cases, I would probably have to make profile-ish angled picture.
I'm not much of an artist for this, but I have some tricks to get things done.
[1] http://people.apache.org/~mkessler/pics/examples/cellphone%2001.png
-Mark
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> It didn't for me. But I'm sure it looks better than anything I would
> drawŠ
>
> -Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Mark Kessler <ke...@gmail.com>.
Here is a very basic vector, I kept it simple so it would be more versatile
with quite a few layers [1]. Can always change out the buttons, or maybe
add content to the screen to make it look like several different phones. If
you wanted colorful cases, I would probably have to make profile-ish angled
picture.
I'm not much of an artist for this, but I have some tricks to get things
done.
[1] http://people.apache.org/~mkessler/pics/examples/cellphone%2001.png
-Mark
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> It didn't for me. But I'm sure it looks better than anything I would drawŠ
>
> -Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
It didn't for me. But I'm sure it looks better than anything I would drawŠ
-Alex
On 11/30/13 5:04 AM, "Mark Kessler" <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Btw that PNG file I attached yesterday come through?
>
>-Mark
>
>
>On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, I will ask on legal-discuss.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 11/29/13 4:41 AM, "Mark Kessler" <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Well you could try [1], they seem to release all rights to their photos
>> >[2]. I think [3] works as well.
>> >
>> >[1] http://openclipart.org
>> >[2] http://openclipart.org/share
>> >
>> >
>> >[3] http://www.clker.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >-Mark
>> >
>> >On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, I could be wrong, but that's not my understanding, based on
>>some
>> >> email threads from Roy over the past few years on general@. Even if
>> >>code
>> >> has an Apache License, Apache projects are not supposed to use such
>>code
>> >> without explicit permission. Maybe there are different rules for
>>icons.
>> >> But first, let's first see if anyone comes up with CC-SA free art.
>>Then
>> >>we
>> >> should ask Legal before checking it in.
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Mark Kessler <ke...@gmail.com>.
Btw that PNG file I attached yesterday come through?
-Mark
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> OK, I will ask on legal-discuss.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 11/29/13 4:41 AM, "Mark Kessler" <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Well you could try [1], they seem to release all rights to their photos
> >[2]. I think [3] works as well.
> >
> >[1] http://openclipart.org
> >[2] http://openclipart.org/share
> >
> >
> >[3] http://www.clker.com/
> >
> >
> >-Mark
> >
> >On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I could be wrong, but that's not my understanding, based on some
> >> email threads from Roy over the past few years on general@. Even if
> >>code
> >> has an Apache License, Apache projects are not supposed to use such code
> >> without explicit permission. Maybe there are different rules for icons.
> >> But first, let's first see if anyone comes up with CC-SA free art. Then
> >>we
> >> should ask Legal before checking it in.
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 11/29/13 1:14 PM, "Tom Chiverton" <to...@apache.org> wrote:
>On Friday 29 November 2013 16:02:05 Mark Kessler wrote:
>> example. Either way still need pics lol.
>
>Plenty of clip art sites let you search for appropriately licensed
>pictures.
>When ever the code is donated we can plug in anything...
I still don't believe that is true. I will ask for confirmation from
Apache Legal.
There have been past discussion that, regardless of license, Apache
projects do not take code without explicit permission.
-Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Tom Chiverton <to...@apache.org>.
On Friday 29 November 2013 16:02:05 Mark Kessler wrote:
> example. Either way still need pics lol.
Plenty of clip art sites let you search for appropriately licensed pictures.
When ever the code is donated we can plug in anything...
--
Tom
Re: Donation News
Posted by Mark Kessler <ke...@gmail.com>.
That's true the nature of the data could change and minor tweaks to the
example. Either way still need pics lol.
-Mark
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <
christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
> Just my 50ct to this Topic ...
>
> you are talking about the demo in which you can select Nokia phones
> depending on different aspects ... how about changing this to: "Apache Flex
> Commiter" selection.
>
> Each Member of the Flex Team that wants to be part of this sends a Picture
> and fills out a short form containng some Information on what parts of Flex
> he is working on, Hobbies, Movies and presto ... no license issues and it
> would even give users the benefit of being able to see who's working on
> what on Apache Flex project?
>
> Chris
>
Re: AW: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Yes, that is another possibility as well, although in Flex Store the
phones have prices and there is a shopping cart.
-Alex
On 11/29/13 5:07 AM, "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de"
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>Just my 50ct to this Topic ...
>
>you are talking about the demo in which you can select Nokia phones
>depending on different aspects ... how about changing this to: "Apache
>Flex Commiter" selection.
>
>Each Member of the Flex Team that wants to be part of this sends a
>Picture and fills out a short form containng some Information on what
>parts of Flex he is working on, Hobbies, Movies and presto ... no license
>issues and it would even give users the benefit of being able to see
>who's working on what on Apache Flex project?
>
>Chris
>
>________________________________________
>Von: Mark Kessler [kesslerconsulting@gmail.com]
>Gesendet: Freitag, 29. November 2013 13:41
>An: Dev@Flex
>Betreff: Re: Donation News
>
>Well you could try [1], they seem to release all rights to their photos
>[2]. I think [3] works as well.
>
>[1] http://openclipart.org
>[2] http://openclipart.org/share
>
>
>[3] http://www.clker.com/
>
>
>-Mark
>
>On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, I could be wrong, but that's not my understanding, based on some
>> email threads from Roy over the past few years on general@. Even if
>>code
>> has an Apache License, Apache projects are not supposed to use such code
>> without explicit permission. Maybe there are different rules for icons.
>> But first, let's first see if anyone comes up with CC-SA free art. Then
>>we
>> should ask Legal before checking it in.
>>
AW: Donation News
Posted by "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Just my 50ct to this Topic ...
you are talking about the demo in which you can select Nokia phones depending on different aspects ... how about changing this to: "Apache Flex Commiter" selection.
Each Member of the Flex Team that wants to be part of this sends a Picture and fills out a short form containng some Information on what parts of Flex he is working on, Hobbies, Movies and presto ... no license issues and it would even give users the benefit of being able to see who's working on what on Apache Flex project?
Chris
________________________________________
Von: Mark Kessler [kesslerconsulting@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 29. November 2013 13:41
An: Dev@Flex
Betreff: Re: Donation News
Well you could try [1], they seem to release all rights to their photos
[2]. I think [3] works as well.
[1] http://openclipart.org
[2] http://openclipart.org/share
[3] http://www.clker.com/
-Mark
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Well, I could be wrong, but that's not my understanding, based on some
> email threads from Roy over the past few years on general@. Even if code
> has an Apache License, Apache projects are not supposed to use such code
> without explicit permission. Maybe there are different rules for icons.
> But first, let's first see if anyone comes up with CC-SA free art. Then we
> should ask Legal before checking it in.
>
>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
OK, I will ask on legal-discuss.
-Alex
On 11/29/13 4:41 AM, "Mark Kessler" <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Well you could try [1], they seem to release all rights to their photos
>[2]. I think [3] works as well.
>
>[1] http://openclipart.org
>[2] http://openclipart.org/share
>
>
>[3] http://www.clker.com/
>
>
>-Mark
>
>On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, I could be wrong, but that's not my understanding, based on some
>> email threads from Roy over the past few years on general@. Even if
>>code
>> has an Apache License, Apache projects are not supposed to use such code
>> without explicit permission. Maybe there are different rules for icons.
>> But first, let's first see if anyone comes up with CC-SA free art. Then
>>we
>> should ask Legal before checking it in.
>>
>>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Mark Kessler <ke...@gmail.com>.
Well you could try [1], they seem to release all rights to their photos
[2]. I think [3] works as well.
[1] http://openclipart.org
[2] http://openclipart.org/share
[3] http://www.clker.com/
-Mark
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Well, I could be wrong, but that's not my understanding, based on some
> email threads from Roy over the past few years on general@. Even if code
> has an Apache License, Apache projects are not supposed to use such code
> without explicit permission. Maybe there are different rules for icons.
> But first, let's first see if anyone comes up with CC-SA free art. Then we
> should ask Legal before checking it in.
>
>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Mark Kessler <ke...@gmail.com>.
Well until we get an someone in who is an artist... here is a rough generic
smart phone graphic I tossed together. It doesn't have any specific
dimensions. I just eye balled it after looking through a few pages of
random phone images.
I thought about tossing our flex logo in the middle of it, but I don't have
a vectored copy of it. Feedback is welcome, and I can always make changes
to the layers.
-Mark
[image: Inline image 1]
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Mark Kessler
<ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
> makes sense. I'll look around and see what might be feasible. i may even
> make an image or two if I get a little time
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/Donation-News-tp32669p32720.html
> Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Mark Kessler <ke...@gmail.com>.
makes sense. I'll look around and see what might be feasible. i may even
make an image or two if I get a little time
-Mark
--
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Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 11/28/13 1:38 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>> IIUC, we cannot use free art.
>Depends on how the free art is licensed eg CC share alike are allowable.
>[1]
Well, I could be wrong, but that's not my understanding, based on some
email threads from Roy over the past few years on general@. Even if code
has an Apache License, Apache projects are not supposed to use such code
without explicit permission. Maybe there are different rules for icons.
But first, let's first see if anyone comes up with CC-SA free art. Then we
should ask Legal before checking it in.
Re: Donation News
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> IIUC, we cannot use free art.
Depends on how the free art is licensed eg CC share alike are allowable. [1]
Justin
1. http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#cc-sa
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 11/28/13 10:15 AM, "Mark Kessler" <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Well we can either use some free art or we can make some simple vectors of
>our own. I kinda of like the idea of having simple vector stock art to
>use
>in examples. Made with something opensource like Inkscape or such... it
>would keep things in the spirit of opensource.
>
IIUC, we cannot use free art. IOW, you can't go to some site where it says
it is free and download it and check it into our repos. Apache policy
indicates that that is "taking" and not donating.
But yes, having someone donate some simple art would be greatŠ
-Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Mark Kessler <ke...@gmail.com>.
Well we can either use some free art or we can make some simple vectors of
our own. I kinda of like the idea of having simple vector stock art to use
in examples. Made with something opensource like Inkscape or such... it
would keep things in the spirit of opensource.
-Mark
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/28/13 2:31 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <ma...@systar.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks Alex, great news.
> >
> >Regarding Tour de Flex "Nokia" images:
> >As far as I can see, the Nokia images (old 2004 models) are used in Flex
> >3 itemRenderers ( Flex 3 > Coding techniques > Item Renderers).
> >The same itemRenderers section in Flex4 is using "neutral" sport items.
> >So maybe we could do the same.
> I'm not sure what files you are referring to. The Nokia images shouldn't
> be in the Apache Flex repos. If they made it in, we'll have to go and
> remove them. I can check if we can load them from the Adobe site, but I
> think it is better if we have our own image assets in our repos.
>
> -Alex
>
>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 11/28/13 2:31 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <ma...@systar.com>
wrote:
>Thanks Alex, great news.
>
>Regarding Tour de Flex "Nokia" images:
>As far as I can see, the Nokia images (old 2004 models) are used in Flex
>3 itemRenderers ( Flex 3 > Coding techniques > Item Renderers).
>The same itemRenderers section in Flex4 is using "neutral" sport items.
>So maybe we could do the same.
I'm not sure what files you are referring to. The Nokia images shouldn't
be in the Apache Flex repos. If they made it in, we'll have to go and
remove them. I can check if we can load them from the Adobe site, but I
think it is better if we have our own image assets in our repos.
-Alex
RE: Donation News
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
Thanks Alex, great news.
Regarding Tour de Flex "Nokia" images:
As far as I can see, the Nokia images (old 2004 models) are used in Flex 3 itemRenderers ( Flex 3 > Coding techniques > Item Renderers).
The same itemRenderers section in Flex4 is using "neutral" sport items.
So maybe we could do the same.
Maurice
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 28 novembre 2013 08:57
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Donation News
On 11/27/13 11:50 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>Alex, great news!
>
>Some thoughts:
>
>A) can you at least include the original stylesheets with the
>understanding we can't use the as-is? It's much easier to change
>existing stylesheets than it will be to reverse engineers them
I don't think I can do that, but you can always see the originals by visiting the Adobe site (at least for now).
>F) the interwebs must contain enough 'generic' phone images that come
>with a permissive license...
In general, Apache does not "take" stuff regardless of license. It has to be donated. I guess we could link to and/or load those images from a foreign domain, but it would be great if someone who is fluent in a drawing tool could bang out some artwork and donate it. Probably just one phone outline in 22 different colors.
-Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 11/27/13 11:50 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>Alex, great news!
>
>Some thoughts:
>
>A) can you at least include the original stylesheets with the
>understanding we can't use the as-is? It's much easier to change
>existing stylesheets than it will be to reverse engineers them
I don't think I can do that, but you can always see the originals by
visiting the Adobe site (at least for now).
>F) the interwebs must contain enough 'generic' phone images that come
>with a permissive license...
In general, Apache does not "take" stuff regardless of license. It has to
be donated. I guess we could link to and/or load those images from a
foreign domain, but it would be great if someone who is fluent in a
drawing tool could bang out some artwork and donate it. Probably just one
phone outline in 22 different colors.
-Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
Alex, great news!
Some thoughts:
A) can you at least include the original stylesheets with the
understanding we can't use the as-is? It's much easier to change
existing stylesheets than it will be to reverse engineers them
C) seems logical
F) the interwebs must contain enough 'generic' phone images that come
with a permissive license...
EdB
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> I finally got a clean-looking scan on a bunch of Adobe stuff. I will be
> submitting it to Legal for review next week (reminder that the US is on
> holiday Thursday and Friday). Then, unless Legal sees something it
> doesn't like, I have to get some business folks and a VP to sign off and
> then I replace any remaining Adobe headers with Apache headers and start
> checking it in. Still hoping to get it done in December.
>
> Contents of this donation will hopefully be:
>
> 1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
> 2. A newer version of FDB that supports workers
> 3. FlexPMD
> 4. The Mobile Trader demo app
> 5. A spec for MXML
> 6. Some files that are needed to complete the BlazeDS donation
> 7. As much of Squiggly as I could find
> 8. TourDeFlex
>
> The BlazeDS donation is otherwise ready except for the files I mentioned
> in #6. With those files, the BlazeDS build scripts seems to run
> successfully. Testing is still needed of course, but will happen
> post-donation if we can find a volunteer.
>
> Some things to think about:
> A) The ADC content is full of references to stylesheets that give it its
> look and feel. I haven't put the stylesheets in the donation because I'm
> pretty sure the Adobe business folks will want us to come up with a
> different look.
> B) For various copyright reasons, many of the images in the ADC examples
> could not be donated and have been replaced by copies of other ADC images.
> At some point, we may need to spend time on fixing this up
> C) Where do we check in the ADC content? Does it just go in SVN for the
> web-site?
> D) A few files in the FlexPMD trunk belong to third-parties and therefore
> not in the donation. It looks like it was just a few tests and bug test
> cases. However, I'm not planning to fix up the build script.
> E) Where do we check in FlexPMD? I think flex-utilities
> F) TourDeFlex and the FlexStore example on the ADC use images of Nokia
> phones. These images will not be donated. Anybody in the mood to
> generate 22 different phone images? It is probably better if they are
> hand-drawn and not photos of a real phone.
>
> -Alex
>
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Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Nothing from examples.adobe.com is on the list to be donated. I thought
these explorers were obsoleted by TourDeFlex?
On 11/28/13 2:54 AM, "Deepak MS" <me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>That's such a great news!!!!!
>
>1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
>
>Does that include contents of these two sites, which aren't available now?
>
>http://examples.adobe.com/flex3/componentexplorer/explorer.html [NOT
>ACTIVE CURRENTLY]
>http://examples.adobe.com/flex3/consulting/styleexplorer/Flex3StyleExplore
>r.html
>[NOT ACTIVE CURRENTLY]
>
>Component explorer and style explorer. That's where I had started my flex
>journey and I'd love to refer them even today. I'm sure most of the
>newbies
>would find it very helpful.
>If we get that, we can as well add the new components to it and update it.
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> I finally got a clean-looking scan on a bunch of Adobe stuff. I will be
>> submitting it to Legal for review next week (reminder that the US is on
>> holiday Thursday and Friday). Then, unless Legal sees something it
>> doesn't like, I have to get some business folks and a VP to sign off and
>> then I replace any remaining Adobe headers with Apache headers and start
>> checking it in. Still hoping to get it done in December.
>>
>> Contents of this donation will hopefully be:
>>
>> 1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
>> 2. A newer version of FDB that supports workers
>> 3. FlexPMD
>> 4. The Mobile Trader demo app
>> 5. A spec for MXML
>> 6. Some files that are needed to complete the BlazeDS donation
>> 7. As much of Squiggly as I could find
>> 8. TourDeFlex
>>
>> The BlazeDS donation is otherwise ready except for the files I mentioned
>> in #6. With those files, the BlazeDS build scripts seems to run
>> successfully. Testing is still needed of course, but will happen
>> post-donation if we can find a volunteer.
>>
>> Some things to think about:
>> A) The ADC content is full of references to stylesheets that give it its
>> look and feel. I haven't put the stylesheets in the donation because I'm
>> pretty sure the Adobe business folks will want us to come up with a
>> different look.
>> B) For various copyright reasons, many of the images in the ADC examples
>> could not be donated and have been replaced by copies of other ADC
>>images.
>> At some point, we may need to spend time on fixing this up
>> C) Where do we check in the ADC content? Does it just go in SVN for the
>> web-site?
>> D) A few files in the FlexPMD trunk belong to third-parties and
>>therefore
>> not in the donation. It looks like it was just a few tests and bug test
>> cases. However, I'm not planning to fix up the build script.
>> E) Where do we check in FlexPMD? I think flex-utilities
>> F) TourDeFlex and the FlexStore example on the ADC use images of Nokia
>> phones. These images will not be donated. Anybody in the mood to
>> generate 22 different phone images? It is probably better if they are
>> hand-drawn and not photos of a real phone.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Deepak MS <me...@gmail.com>.
That's such a great news!!!!!
1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
Does that include contents of these two sites, which aren't available now?
http://examples.adobe.com/flex3/componentexplorer/explorer.html [NOT
ACTIVE CURRENTLY]
http://examples.adobe.com/flex3/consulting/styleexplorer/Flex3StyleExplorer.html
[NOT ACTIVE CURRENTLY]
Component explorer and style explorer. That's where I had started my flex
journey and I'd love to refer them even today. I'm sure most of the newbies
would find it very helpful.
If we get that, we can as well add the new components to it and update it.
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> I finally got a clean-looking scan on a bunch of Adobe stuff. I will be
> submitting it to Legal for review next week (reminder that the US is on
> holiday Thursday and Friday). Then, unless Legal sees something it
> doesn't like, I have to get some business folks and a VP to sign off and
> then I replace any remaining Adobe headers with Apache headers and start
> checking it in. Still hoping to get it done in December.
>
> Contents of this donation will hopefully be:
>
> 1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
> 2. A newer version of FDB that supports workers
> 3. FlexPMD
> 4. The Mobile Trader demo app
> 5. A spec for MXML
> 6. Some files that are needed to complete the BlazeDS donation
> 7. As much of Squiggly as I could find
> 8. TourDeFlex
>
> The BlazeDS donation is otherwise ready except for the files I mentioned
> in #6. With those files, the BlazeDS build scripts seems to run
> successfully. Testing is still needed of course, but will happen
> post-donation if we can find a volunteer.
>
> Some things to think about:
> A) The ADC content is full of references to stylesheets that give it its
> look and feel. I haven't put the stylesheets in the donation because I'm
> pretty sure the Adobe business folks will want us to come up with a
> different look.
> B) For various copyright reasons, many of the images in the ADC examples
> could not be donated and have been replaced by copies of other ADC images.
> At some point, we may need to spend time on fixing this up
> C) Where do we check in the ADC content? Does it just go in SVN for the
> web-site?
> D) A few files in the FlexPMD trunk belong to third-parties and therefore
> not in the donation. It looks like it was just a few tests and bug test
> cases. However, I'm not planning to fix up the build script.
> E) Where do we check in FlexPMD? I think flex-utilities
> F) TourDeFlex and the FlexStore example on the ADC use images of Nokia
> phones. These images will not be donated. Anybody in the mood to
> generate 22 different phone images? It is probably better if they are
> hand-drawn and not photos of a real phone.
>
> -Alex
>
>
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 11/27/13 11:55 PM, "Alexander Doroshko"
<al...@jetbrains.com> wrote:
>On 28.11.2013 11:42, Alex Harui wrote:
>> 2. A newer version of FDB that supports workers
>
>That's great! Will the future development of fdb tool at Adobe and
>Apache side be in sync? Or at least one-way sync?
I will try to keep an eye out for changes to Adobe's version.
-Alex
Re: Donation News
Posted by Alexander Doroshko <al...@jetbrains.com>.
On 28.11.2013 11:42, Alex Harui wrote:
> 2. A newer version of FDB that supports workers
That's great! Will the future development of fdb tool at Adobe and
Apache side be in sync? Or at least one-way sync?
Alexander
Re: Donation News
Posted by "jabbypanda ." <ja...@gmail.com>.
>A newer version of FDB that supports workers
That's a good news, introduction of Flash Workers to Apache Flex SDK is a
solid step forward.
--
Andriy
On 28 November 2013 10:16, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <
christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
> I would volunteer to do the BlazeDS testing as I have real interest on
> working on BlazeDS (I do have quite a set of improvements, I would like to
> address as soon as it is donated).
>
> Chris
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: Alex Harui [aharui@adobe.com]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. November 2013 08:42
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: Donation News
>
> I finally got a clean-looking scan on a bunch of Adobe stuff. I will be
> submitting it to Legal for review next week (reminder that the US is on
> holiday Thursday and Friday). Then, unless Legal sees something it
> doesn't like, I have to get some business folks and a VP to sign off and
> then I replace any remaining Adobe headers with Apache headers and start
> checking it in. Still hoping to get it done in December.
>
> Contents of this donation will hopefully be:
>
> 1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
> 2. A newer version of FDB that supports workers
> 3. FlexPMD
> 4. The Mobile Trader demo app
> 5. A spec for MXML
> 6. Some files that are needed to complete the BlazeDS donation
> 7. As much of Squiggly as I could find
> 8. TourDeFlex
>
> The BlazeDS donation is otherwise ready except for the files I mentioned
> in #6. With those files, the BlazeDS build scripts seems to run
> successfully. Testing is still needed of course, but will happen
> post-donation if we can find a volunteer.
>
> Some things to think about:
> A) The ADC content is full of references to stylesheets that give it its
> look and feel. I haven't put the stylesheets in the donation because I'm
> pretty sure the Adobe business folks will want us to come up with a
> different look.
> B) For various copyright reasons, many of the images in the ADC examples
> could not be donated and have been replaced by copies of other ADC images.
> At some point, we may need to spend time on fixing this up
> C) Where do we check in the ADC content? Does it just go in SVN for the
> web-site?
> D) A few files in the FlexPMD trunk belong to third-parties and therefore
> not in the donation. It looks like it was just a few tests and bug test
> cases. However, I'm not planning to fix up the build script.
> E) Where do we check in FlexPMD? I think flex-utilities
> F) TourDeFlex and the FlexStore example on the ADC use images of Nokia
> phones. These images will not be donated. Anybody in the mood to
> generate 22 different phone images? It is probably better if they are
> hand-drawn and not photos of a real phone.
>
> -Alex
>
AW: Donation News
Posted by "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>.
I would volunteer to do the BlazeDS testing as I have real interest on working on BlazeDS (I do have quite a set of improvements, I would like to address as soon as it is donated).
Chris
________________________________________
Von: Alex Harui [aharui@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. November 2013 08:42
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Donation News
I finally got a clean-looking scan on a bunch of Adobe stuff. I will be
submitting it to Legal for review next week (reminder that the US is on
holiday Thursday and Friday). Then, unless Legal sees something it
doesn't like, I have to get some business folks and a VP to sign off and
then I replace any remaining Adobe headers with Apache headers and start
checking it in. Still hoping to get it done in December.
Contents of this donation will hopefully be:
1. Several popular ADC web articles, tutorials, etc.
2. A newer version of FDB that supports workers
3. FlexPMD
4. The Mobile Trader demo app
5. A spec for MXML
6. Some files that are needed to complete the BlazeDS donation
7. As much of Squiggly as I could find
8. TourDeFlex
The BlazeDS donation is otherwise ready except for the files I mentioned
in #6. With those files, the BlazeDS build scripts seems to run
successfully. Testing is still needed of course, but will happen
post-donation if we can find a volunteer.
Some things to think about:
A) The ADC content is full of references to stylesheets that give it its
look and feel. I haven't put the stylesheets in the donation because I'm
pretty sure the Adobe business folks will want us to come up with a
different look.
B) For various copyright reasons, many of the images in the ADC examples
could not be donated and have been replaced by copies of other ADC images.
At some point, we may need to spend time on fixing this up
C) Where do we check in the ADC content? Does it just go in SVN for the
web-site?
D) A few files in the FlexPMD trunk belong to third-parties and therefore
not in the donation. It looks like it was just a few tests and bug test
cases. However, I'm not planning to fix up the build script.
E) Where do we check in FlexPMD? I think flex-utilities
F) TourDeFlex and the FlexStore example on the ADC use images of Nokia
phones. These images will not be donated. Anybody in the mood to
generate 22 different phone images? It is probably better if they are
hand-drawn and not photos of a real phone.
-Alex