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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Peter Verhage <pe...@ibuildings.nl> on 2000/09/22 15:40:49 UTC
Tomcat or Jserv, that's the question :)
I've noticed the Cocoon 2.0 alpha release(s) only support Tomcat at the
moment. Because of the support for newer version of Java Servlet (2.2)
of Tomcat. I'm sure this will change as soon as the beta and/or the
final version will be released of Cocoon 2. But at the moment they've
chosen to only support Tomcat. What is the reason for this choice? Is
Tomcat better then Jserv?
I want this to know because Tomcat looks less mature then Jserv, but
maybe I'm missing the point here :) But what i've read about Tomcat is
that it is rather a reference implementation then a real production
enviorment implemenation. I don't know if this will change, but because
of the fact Jserv and Tomcat are both products of the Apache community,
I think in the end one will "survive". I know they are both different
kind of implementations, but I think they will at the end be one...
Again I could be wrong...
Anyway, what is the best choice for Cocoon (2)? At this moment Tomcat,
but will it still be when the final version will be released? And why
(not)?
With best regards,
Peter
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Peter Verhage <pe...@ibuildings.nl>
ibuildings.nl BV - information technology
http://www.ibuildings.nl - 0118 41 50 54
RE: Tomcat or Jserv, that's the question :)
Posted by Russ White <ru...@earthlink.net>.
Just so you know, Resin integrates wonderfully with Apache. In fact, AFIK much
better than JServ.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter@earthlink.net [mailto:peter@earthlink.net]On Behalf Of Peter
> Verhage
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:40 AM
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Tomcat or Jserv, that's the question :)
>
>
> Russ White wrote:
> > The fact is the Cocoon2 will run on any Servlet 2.2 container, not just
> > tomcat.
>
> Yes I know, but I'm looking for a solution that can be integrated in
> Apache Server. And at the moment (I believe) the only two solutions are
> Jserv and Tomcat. They both work, except Jserv doesn't work anymore with
> the 2.x series. That's not a problem, but I only wanted to know that. :)
> It's for the company I work for (uhh i'm a trainee... :p) important that
> they can keep using Apache Server. Not only because they have a lot of
> time invested in PHP (which can also run on other webservers, I know)
> but also because Apache Webserver is one of the best webservers at the
> moment, and is a great open source project.
>
> > If you are looking for a great platform check out Resin at
> > http://www.caucho.com It does not have anything to do with Tomcat being
> > better or worse. The only factor here is the you have to code to a spec, and
> > the only spec that makes sense right now is Servlet 2.2, and soon probably
> > 2.3
>
> Oops, there goes my statement that Jserv and Tomcat the only solutions
> are for Apache :P. But, the Apache community has always produced good
> products. And because of the fact Apache Server and Tomcat are both
> Apache projects, it looks to me they will better work together (maybe
> not at the moment, but in the future), but I know that does not have to
> be true... And ofcourse, I can always switch, that does nothing to the
> functionality of Cocoon ofcourse.... Hmmm :) Still thinking.... :P
>
> > I am using resin 1.2.b2.snap with Cocoon2 with out any major problems (other
> > then the fact that it an alpha product). In fact there is not any difference
> > in running it on Tomcat or Resin, exception that Resin runs generally
> > faster, and IMHO is much easier to configure. Also Resin's implementation of
> > SSL is solid.
>
> I will have a look at it :) Thank you for the information!
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
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> Peter Verhage <pe...@ibuildings.nl>
> ibuildings.nl BV - information technology
> http://www.ibuildings.nl - 0118 41 50 54
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Re: Tomcat or Jserv, that's the question :)
Posted by Peter Verhage <pe...@ibuildings.nl>.
Russ White wrote:
> The fact is the Cocoon2 will run on any Servlet 2.2 container, not just
> tomcat.
Yes I know, but I'm looking for a solution that can be integrated in
Apache Server. And at the moment (I believe) the only two solutions are
Jserv and Tomcat. They both work, except Jserv doesn't work anymore with
the 2.x series. That's not a problem, but I only wanted to know that. :)
It's for the company I work for (uhh i'm a trainee... :p) important that
they can keep using Apache Server. Not only because they have a lot of
time invested in PHP (which can also run on other webservers, I know)
but also because Apache Webserver is one of the best webservers at the
moment, and is a great open source project.
> If you are looking for a great platform check out Resin at
> http://www.caucho.com It does not have anything to do with Tomcat being
> better or worse. The only factor here is the you have to code to a spec, and
> the only spec that makes sense right now is Servlet 2.2, and soon probably
> 2.3
Oops, there goes my statement that Jserv and Tomcat the only solutions
are for Apache :P. But, the Apache community has always produced good
products. And because of the fact Apache Server and Tomcat are both
Apache projects, it looks to me they will better work together (maybe
not at the moment, but in the future), but I know that does not have to
be true... And ofcourse, I can always switch, that does nothing to the
functionality of Cocoon ofcourse.... Hmmm :) Still thinking.... :P
> I am using resin 1.2.b2.snap with Cocoon2 with out any major problems (other
> then the fact that it an alpha product). In fact there is not any difference
> in running it on Tomcat or Resin, exception that Resin runs generally
> faster, and IMHO is much easier to configure. Also Resin's implementation of
> SSL is solid.
I will have a look at it :) Thank you for the information!
Regards,
Peter
--
Peter Verhage <pe...@ibuildings.nl>
ibuildings.nl BV - information technology
http://www.ibuildings.nl - 0118 41 50 54
RE: Tomcat or Jserv, that's the question :)
Posted by Russ White <ru...@earthlink.net>.
Peter,
The fact is the Cocoon2 will run on any Servlet 2.2 container, not just
tomcat. If you are looking for a great platform check out Resin at
http://www.caucho.com It does not have anything to do with Tomcat being
better or worse. The only factor here is the you have to code to a spec, and
the only spec that makes sense right now is Servlet 2.2, and soon probably
2.3
I am using resin 1.2.b2.snap with Cocoon2 with out any major problems (other
then the fact that it an alpha product). In fact there is not any difference
in running it on Tomcat or Resin, exception that Resin runs generally
faster, and IMHO is much easier to configure. Also Resin's implementation of
SSL is solid.
Regards,
Russ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter@earthlink.net [mailto:peter@earthlink.net]On Behalf Of Peter
> Verhage
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:41 AM
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Tomcat or Jserv, that's the question :)
>
>
> I've noticed the Cocoon 2.0 alpha release(s) only support Tomcat at the
> moment. Because of the support for newer version of Java Servlet (2.2)
> of Tomcat. I'm sure this will change as soon as the beta and/or the
> final version will be released of Cocoon 2. But at the moment they've
> chosen to only support Tomcat. What is the reason for this choice? Is
> Tomcat better then Jserv?
>
> I want this to know because Tomcat looks less mature then Jserv, but
> maybe I'm missing the point here :) But what i've read about Tomcat is
> that it is rather a reference implementation then a real production
> enviorment implemenation. I don't know if this will change, but because
> of the fact Jserv and Tomcat are both products of the Apache community,
> I think in the end one will "survive". I know they are both different
> kind of implementations, but I think they will at the end be one...
> Again I could be wrong...
>
> Anyway, what is the best choice for Cocoon (2)? At this moment Tomcat,
> but will it still be when the final version will be released? And why
> (not)?
>
> With best regards,
>
> Peter
>
> --
> Peter Verhage <pe...@ibuildings.nl>
> ibuildings.nl BV - information technology
> http://www.ibuildings.nl - 0118 41 50 54
>
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