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Posted to dev@stanbol.apache.org by Fabian Christ <ch...@googlemail.com> on 2015/05/07 11:07:09 UTC
Re: Status of dev.iks-project.eu server
Hi Dileepa,
I have no further knowledge about this server but it may be the case
that the money for running this service ran out as the IKS project has
ended in 2012.
Do we need a live system?
Best
- Fabian
2015-04-08 15:22 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Can I please know the status of dev.iks-project.eu server?
> Can we bring it back online soon?
>
> Thanks,
> Dileepa
--
Fabian
http://twitter.com/fctwitt
Re: Status of dev.iks-project.eu server
Posted by Rupert Westenthaler <ru...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
Ok, I will prepare a Github project for managing the data files for
Apache Stanbol.
best
Rupert
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Dileepa Jayakody
<di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Fabian, Rupert and Rafa.
>
> I agree with Rafa, that there is no reason for us to have a live hosted
> Stanbol instance.
> But I think hosting released artifacts/binaries will be helpful for new
> comers to download without building Stanbol from scratch.
>
> Thanks,
> Dileepa
>
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> +1 for hosting them at github
>>
>>
>>
>> En 8 de mayo de 2015 en 8:19:03, Rupert Westenthaler
>> (rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com) escrito:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The original server had an hardware issue. I already ask for
>> replacement and replacement will be provided. The current plan is to
>> make resources required to build already released versions of Stanbol
>> available at their original location (so that older releases do work
>> again). But for ongoing development I suggest to switch to a different
>> location. I would suggest to create a github or bitbucket project to
>> manage (and possible also release) those artifacts.
>>
>> Just as a reminder: This is mainly about the OpenNLP models. As the
>> license of those is unclear we can not host them on Apache
>> Infrastructure (for more information search the OpenNLP mailing
>> lists).
>>
>> best
>> Rupert
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > I would say we shouldn’t….there is no reason in my opinion
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Rafa
>> >
>> >
>> > En 7 de mayo de 2015 en 11:15:56, Fabian Christ
>> > (christ.fabian@googlemail.com) escrito:
>> >
>> > Hi Dileepa,
>> >
>> > I have no further knowledge about this server but it may be the case
>> > that the money for running this service ran out as the IKS project has
>> > ended in 2012.
>> >
>> > Do we need a live system?
>> >
>> > Best
>> > - Fabian
>> >
>> > 2015-04-08 15:22 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>:
>> >> Hi Guys,
>> >>
>> >> Can I please know the status of dev.iks-project.eu server?
>> >> Can we bring it back online soon?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Dileepa
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Fabian
>> > http://twitter.com/fctwitt
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
>> | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
>> | A-5500 Bischofshofen
>> | REDLINK.CO
>> ..........................................................................
>> | http://redlink.co/
>
>
--
| Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
| Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
| A-5500 Bischofshofen
| REDLINK.CO ..........................................................................
| http://redlink.co/
Re: Status of dev.iks-project.eu server
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rupert,
We can provide the launcher along with a downloader tool for not apache dependencies. Another possibility is to provide a link in the stanbol website to an ready to use docker machine at docker-hub
What do you guys think?
—
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On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Rupert Westenthaler
<ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> HI Rafa
> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would rather provide a ready-to-use binary or package like others projects like solr do
> If you want to work on this you do have my full support. The problem
> with "ready to use" is that the OpenNLP models are not under Apache
> License and therefore we can not include them in a binary release.
> Therefore the current Stanbol Launchers (stable, full and full-war)
> can NOT be distributed as binary releases.
> What we could provide is
> * a binary release of the Software
> * excluding any OPenNLP Models
> * a small custom vocabulary configured with a plain entity linking chain.
> * AFAIK we could also include the default DBPedia index, but without
> NLP models for linking this does not seam to be very useful.
> best
> Rupert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Rafa
>>
>>
>>
>> —
>> Enviado desde Mailbox
>>
>> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Andreas Kuckartz <a....@ping.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dileepa Jayakody wrote:
>>>> Thanks Fabian, Rupert and Rafa.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Rafa, that there is no reason for us to have a live hosted
>>>> Stanbol instance.
>>> A bit late, but I do not agree with that.
>>> The best way for many people to see the value of Stanbol is to see it in
>>> action. And the easiest way to do that is by using an online demo. An
>>> online demo can be used instantly while otherwise software needs to be
>>> downloaded and installed. That is a difference which should not be
>>> underestimated even for the main target audiences of Stanbol.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andreas
> --
> | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
> | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> | REDLINK.CO ..........................................................................
> | http://redlink.co/
Re: Status of dev.iks-project.eu server
Posted by Rupert Westenthaler <ru...@gmail.com>.
HI Rafa
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would rather provide a ready-to-use binary or package like others projects like solr do
If you want to work on this you do have my full support. The problem
with "ready to use" is that the OpenNLP models are not under Apache
License and therefore we can not include them in a binary release.
Therefore the current Stanbol Launchers (stable, full and full-war)
can NOT be distributed as binary releases.
What we could provide is
* a binary release of the Software
* excluding any OPenNLP Models
* a small custom vocabulary configured with a plain entity linking chain.
* AFAIK we could also include the default DBPedia index, but without
NLP models for linking this does not seam to be very useful.
best
Rupert
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Rafa
>
>
>
> —
> Enviado desde Mailbox
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Andreas Kuckartz <a....@ping.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Dileepa Jayakody wrote:
>>> Thanks Fabian, Rupert and Rafa.
>>>
>>> I agree with Rafa, that there is no reason for us to have a live hosted
>>> Stanbol instance.
>> A bit late, but I do not agree with that.
>> The best way for many people to see the value of Stanbol is to see it in
>> action. And the easiest way to do that is by using an online demo. An
>> online demo can be used instantly while otherwise software needs to be
>> downloaded and installed. That is a difference which should not be
>> underestimated even for the main target audiences of Stanbol.
>> Cheers,
>> Andreas
--
| Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
| Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
| A-5500 Bischofshofen
| REDLINK.CO ..........................................................................
| http://redlink.co/
Re: Status of dev.iks-project.eu server
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@gmail.com>.
I would rather provide a ready-to-use binary or package like others projects like solr do
Cheers
Rafa
—
Enviado desde Mailbox
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Andreas Kuckartz <a....@ping.de>
wrote:
> Dileepa Jayakody wrote:
>> Thanks Fabian, Rupert and Rafa.
>>
>> I agree with Rafa, that there is no reason for us to have a live hosted
>> Stanbol instance.
> A bit late, but I do not agree with that.
> The best way for many people to see the value of Stanbol is to see it in
> action. And the easiest way to do that is by using an online demo. An
> online demo can be used instantly while otherwise software needs to be
> downloaded and installed. That is a difference which should not be
> underestimated even for the main target audiences of Stanbol.
> Cheers,
> Andreas
Re: Status of dev.iks-project.eu server
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <a....@ping.de>.
Dileepa Jayakody wrote:
> Thanks Fabian, Rupert and Rafa.
>
> I agree with Rafa, that there is no reason for us to have a live hosted
> Stanbol instance.
A bit late, but I do not agree with that.
The best way for many people to see the value of Stanbol is to see it in
action. And the easiest way to do that is by using an online demo. An
online demo can be used instantly while otherwise software needs to be
downloaded and installed. That is a difference which should not be
underestimated even for the main target audiences of Stanbol.
Cheers,
Andreas
Re: Status of dev.iks-project.eu server
Posted by Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Fabian, Rupert and Rafa.
I agree with Rafa, that there is no reason for us to have a live hosted
Stanbol instance.
But I think hosting released artifacts/binaries will be helpful for new
comers to download without building Stanbol from scratch.
Thanks,
Dileepa
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 for hosting them at github
>
>
>
> En 8 de mayo de 2015 en 8:19:03, Rupert Westenthaler (
> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com) escrito:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The original server had an hardware issue. I already ask for
> replacement and replacement will be provided. The current plan is to
> make resources required to build already released versions of Stanbol
> available at their original location (so that older releases do work
> again). But for ongoing development I suggest to switch to a different
> location. I would suggest to create a github or bitbucket project to
> manage (and possible also release) those artifacts.
>
> Just as a reminder: This is mainly about the OpenNLP models. As the
> license of those is unclear we can not host them on Apache
> Infrastructure (for more information search the OpenNLP mailing
> lists).
>
> best
> Rupert
>
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > I would say we shouldn’t….there is no reason in my opinion
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rafa
> >
> >
> > En 7 de mayo de 2015 en 11:15:56, Fabian Christ (
> christ.fabian@googlemail.com) escrito:
> >
> > Hi Dileepa,
> >
> > I have no further knowledge about this server but it may be the case
> > that the money for running this service ran out as the IKS project has
> > ended in 2012.
> >
> > Do we need a live system?
> >
> > Best
> > - Fabian
> >
> > 2015-04-08 15:22 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>:
> >> Hi Guys,
> >>
> >> Can I please know the status of dev.iks-project.eu server?
> >> Can we bring it back online soon?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Dileepa
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Fabian
> > http://twitter.com/fctwitt
>
>
>
> --
> | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
> | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> | REDLINK.CO
> ..........................................................................
> | http://redlink.co/
>
Re: Status of dev.iks-project.eu server
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
+1 for hosting them at github
En 8 de mayo de 2015 en 8:19:03, Rupert Westenthaler (rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com) escrito:
Hi all,
The original server had an hardware issue. I already ask for
replacement and replacement will be provided. The current plan is to
make resources required to build already released versions of Stanbol
available at their original location (so that older releases do work
again). But for ongoing development I suggest to switch to a different
location. I would suggest to create a github or bitbucket project to
manage (and possible also release) those artifacts.
Just as a reminder: This is mainly about the OpenNLP models. As the
license of those is unclear we can not host them on Apache
Infrastructure (for more information search the OpenNLP mailing
lists).
best
Rupert
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> I would say we shouldn’t….there is no reason in my opinion
>
> Cheers,
> Rafa
>
>
> En 7 de mayo de 2015 en 11:15:56, Fabian Christ (christ.fabian@googlemail.com) escrito:
>
> Hi Dileepa,
>
> I have no further knowledge about this server but it may be the case
> that the money for running this service ran out as the IKS project has
> ended in 2012.
>
> Do we need a live system?
>
> Best
> - Fabian
>
> 2015-04-08 15:22 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Can I please know the status of dev.iks-project.eu server?
>> Can we bring it back online soon?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dileepa
>
>
>
> --
> Fabian
> http://twitter.com/fctwitt
--
| Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
| Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
| A-5500 Bischofshofen
| REDLINK.CO ..........................................................................
| http://redlink.co/
Re: Status of dev.iks-project.eu server
Posted by Rupert Westenthaler <ru...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
The original server had an hardware issue. I already ask for
replacement and replacement will be provided. The current plan is to
make resources required to build already released versions of Stanbol
available at their original location (so that older releases do work
again). But for ongoing development I suggest to switch to a different
location. I would suggest to create a github or bitbucket project to
manage (and possible also release) those artifacts.
Just as a reminder: This is mainly about the OpenNLP models. As the
license of those is unclear we can not host them on Apache
Infrastructure (for more information search the OpenNLP mailing
lists).
best
Rupert
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> I would say we shouldn’t….there is no reason in my opinion
>
> Cheers,
> Rafa
>
>
> En 7 de mayo de 2015 en 11:15:56, Fabian Christ (christ.fabian@googlemail.com) escrito:
>
> Hi Dileepa,
>
> I have no further knowledge about this server but it may be the case
> that the money for running this service ran out as the IKS project has
> ended in 2012.
>
> Do we need a live system?
>
> Best
> - Fabian
>
> 2015-04-08 15:22 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Can I please know the status of dev.iks-project.eu server?
>> Can we bring it back online soon?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dileepa
>
>
>
> --
> Fabian
> http://twitter.com/fctwitt
--
| Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
| Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
| A-5500 Bischofshofen
| REDLINK.CO ..........................................................................
| http://redlink.co/
Re: Status of dev.iks-project.eu server
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
I would say we shouldn’t….there is no reason in my opinion
Cheers,
Rafa
En 7 de mayo de 2015 en 11:15:56, Fabian Christ (christ.fabian@googlemail.com) escrito:
Hi Dileepa,
I have no further knowledge about this server but it may be the case
that the money for running this service ran out as the IKS project has
ended in 2012.
Do we need a live system?
Best
- Fabian
2015-04-08 15:22 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Can I please know the status of dev.iks-project.eu server?
> Can we bring it back online soon?
>
> Thanks,
> Dileepa
--
Fabian
http://twitter.com/fctwitt