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Posted to user@sis.apache.org by Daniel E Harter <da...@bahwancybertek.com> on 2021/12/03 22:02:01 UTC

NTv2 Canada file

Hi,

I downloaded NTV2_0.GSB grid file from the Canadian Government site[1]. It is used in the transformations EPSG:1313 NAD27 to NAD83 (4) and EPSG:1693 NAD27 to WGS 84 (33). When I try to use either transform, I get the following in the console:
Dec 03, 2021 1:38:43 PM org.apache.sis.internal.referencing.provider.NTv2 createMathTransform
WARNING: Loading of "NTv2_0.gsb" done, but some records were ignored because of unrecognized keywords: DATUM_F, DATUM_T
NAD27 input: (51.325795, -115.15383774, NaN)
Transform EPSG:1313 NAD83 result: (51.325853158412635, -115.15382696154606, NaN)
Transform EPSG:1693 WGS84 result: (51.325853158412635, -115.15382696154606, NaN)
Expected result From Canada NTv2 webapp: (51.325841, -115.15486299, NaN)

The expected result is from https://webapp.geod.nrcan.gc.ca/geod/tools-outils/ntv2.php?locale=en. Is there anything that can be done or do I just have to avoid these transforms?

[1]: https://webapp.geod.nrcan.gc.ca/geod/data-donnees/transformations.php

Thanks,
Daniel

Re: NTv2 Canada file

Posted by Martin Desruisseaux <ma...@geomatys.com>.
Le 04/12/2021 à 18:58, Daniel E Harter a écrit :

> The problem turned out to be that I was using version 1.0 instead of 
> 1.1. Once I updated my pom the warning message went away, and I got 
> the correct result.
>
Thanks for the report. Maybe one problem of SIS project is that the 
"release notes" for each release is a little bit light; the amount of 
bug fixes at each release is much larger that what is reported in the 
JIRA issue tracker.

     Martin


RE: NTv2 Canada file

Posted by Daniel E Harter <da...@bahwancybertek.com>.
Hi Martin,

The problem turned out to be that I was using version 1.0 instead of 1.1. Once I updated my pom the warning message went away, and I got the correct result.

Thank you.

Daniel

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Hello Daniel

I just downloaded the NTV2_0.gsb file from the webapp.geod.nrcan.gc.ca web site and tried to transform the "NAD27 input" point. I got the following result, which seem to match the expected result. No warning was reported during my test.

Expected: 51.325841,        -115.15486299

Actual:   51.32584099858066 -115.1548629958289

Maybe the NTV2 file has been altered during the transfer? What is the output of "md5sum NTV2_0.gsb" on your file? In my case I get the following:

f91da910eb02304456c2f7372a596ead  NTV2_0.gsb

Also which version of SIS is used, and is the system a Windows, Linus or MacOS system?

    Martin



Le 03/12/2021 à 23:02, Daniel E Harter a écrit :
I downloaded NTV2_0.GSB grid file from the Canadian Government site[1]. It is used in the transformations EPSG:1313 NAD27 to NAD83 (4) and EPSG:1693 NAD27 to WGS 84 (33). When I try to use either transform, I get the following in the console:
Dec 03, 2021 1:38:43 PM org.apache.sis.internal.referencing.provider.NTv2 createMathTransform
WARNING: Loading of “NTv2_0.gsb” done, but some records were ignored because of unrecognized keywords: DATUM_F, DATUM_T
NAD27 input: (51.325795, -115.15383774, NaN)
Transform EPSG:1313 NAD83 result: (51.325853158412635, -115.15382696154606, NaN)
Transform EPSG:1693 WGS84 result: (51.325853158412635, -115.15382696154606, NaN)
Expected result From Canada NTv2 webapp: (51.325841, -115.15486299, NaN)


Re: NTv2 Canada file

Posted by Martin Desruisseaux <ma...@geomatys.com>.
Hello Daniel

I just downloaded the NTV2_0.gsb file from the webapp.geod.nrcan.gc.ca 
web site and tried to transform the "NAD27 input" point. I got the 
following result, which seem to match the expected result. No warning 
was reported during my test.

    Expected: 51.325841,        -115.15486299
    Actual:   51.32584099858066 -115.1548629958289

Maybe the NTV2 file has been altered during the transfer? What is the 
output of "md5sum NTV2_0.gsb" on your file? In my case I get the following:

    f91da910eb02304456c2f7372a596ead  NTV2_0.gsb

Also which version of SIS is used, and is the system a Windows, Linus or 
MacOS system?

     Martin


Le 03/12/2021 à 23:02, Daniel E Harter a écrit :

> I downloaded NTV2_0.GSB grid file from the Canadian Government 
> site[1]. It is used in the transformations EPSG:1313 NAD27 to NAD83 
> (4) and EPSG:1693 NAD27 to WGS 84 (33). When I try to use either 
> transform, I get the following in the console:
>
> Dec 03, 2021 1:38:43 PM 
> org.apache.sis.internal.referencing.provider.NTv2 createMathTransform
>
> WARNING: Loading of “NTv2_0.gsb” done, but some records were ignored 
> because of unrecognized keywords: DATUM_F, DATUM_T
>
> NAD27 input: (51.325795, -115.15383774, NaN)
>
> Transform EPSG:1313 NAD83 result: (51.325853158412635, 
> -115.15382696154606, NaN)
>
> Transform EPSG:1693 WGS84 result: (51.325853158412635, 
> -115.15382696154606, NaN)
>
> Expected result From Canada NTv2 webapp: (51.325841, -115.15486299, NaN)
>