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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@gmail.com> on 2026/07/02 18:57:32 UTC
[DISCUSS] Guidelines for Publishing Videos on the Official Apache OFBiz YouTube Channel
Dear all,
I would like to open a discussion about the content that is published
on the official Apache OFBiz YouTube channel.
Some of the recently published videos contain useful technical
information and can certainly benefit users and developers. However, I
believe that content published through the project's official
communication channels should also meet a certain standard in terms of
presentation quality. This includes aspects such as audio clarity,
video quality, readability of the recorded screen, and the overall
structure of the presentation. The official Apache OFBiz channel
represents the project to the broader public, including potential
users, contributors, and organizations evaluating OFBiz. The quality
of the material published there contributes to the overall perception
of the project.
I am not suggesting creating unnecessary bureaucracy or discouraging
anyone from producing content. Rather, I believe a collaborative
review process would help us publish material that best represents the
project while also giving authors constructive feedback before their
work becomes part of the project's official communications.
I would be interested in hearing the community's thoughts, as well as
any ideas for defining practical and lightweight guidelines.
Best regards,
Jacopo
Re: [DISCUSS] Guidelines for Publishing Videos on the Official Apache OFBiz YouTube Channel
Posted by Arun Patidar <ar...@hotwax.co>.
Hi Jacopo and Anil,
Thank you, Jacopo, for raising these concerns, and thank you, Anil, for
sharing your perspective. I completely understand and agree with the points
discussed.
I have unlisted all the videos I recently published on the official Apache
OFBiz YouTube channel. I will keep them unlisted for now and can delete
them permanently later if needed.
My intention was to demonstrate Apache OFBiz's compatibility with the
latest AI coding tools to empower our developers, and I used the official
channel to maximize reach. However, I agree this objective can be achieved
by hosting them on a personal channel and sharing the links via the mailing
list instead.
I will use this feedback as a learning experience to ensure higher quality
for future content. Thank you both for your dedication to the community.
Best regards,
Arun Patidar
On Mon, Jul 6, 2026 at 3:51 PM Jacopo Cappellato <
jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Anil,
>
> Of course. I think any contributor, including companies such as HotWax
> Systems, is welcome to create educational content and share it with
> the community.
>
> Regarding a "Community Contributed Content" page, I would expect the
> community to evaluate any proposal to include links to useful external
> content, regardless of who produced it, provided that the page is
> clearly presented as a collection of community resources and does not
> appear to endorse any particular individual, company, or commercial
> service.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 9:44 AM Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxsystems.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jacopo,
> >
> > I have a question,
> >
> > If the content is posted on a YouTube channel owned by HotWax Systems,
> will
> > you allow us to link to that channel and its videos on the Community
> > Contributed content page?
> >
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> > Anil Patel
> > CEO
> > HotWax Systems
> > http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 1:02 PM Arun Patidar <ar...@hotwax.co>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jacopo,
> > >
> > > I have deleted the comment on the video that was accidentally posted
> from
> > > the project's official account and have now replied using my personal
> > > account. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Arun Patidar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 12:13 PM Jacopo Cappellato <
> > > jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Anil,
> > > >
> > > > I have to disagree with the idea that "something is better than
> > > > nothing". In my view, quality matters, and creating educational
> videos
> > > > is not a mandatory activity for the project. If we currently do not
> > > > have contributors with sufficient content creation skills, I think it
> > > > is perfectly acceptable for the project not to publish official
> videos
> > > > until we do.
> > > >
> > > > I also hope we can reach a shared understanding of the minimum
> quality
> > > > standards expected for the project's official deliverables,
> regardless
> > > > of their form.
> > > >
> > > > That said, I am absolutely in favor of encouraging engineers to
> > > > experiment with content creation and develop those skills. My
> > > > suggestion would simply be to have those videos published from
> > > > personal accounts or channels, and then shared with the community via
> > > > the mailing list or perhaps a wiki page collecting community-created
> > > > content. I don't think this would discourage contributors; on the
> > > > contrary, it would give them the opportunity to experiment, receive
> > > > feedback, and improve their skills without making every attempt an
> > > > official project publication.
> > > >
> > > > To me there is an important distinction between sharing content
> within
> > > > the community and publishing content as the Apache OFBiz project. The
> > > > latter represents the project itself and therefore deserves a higher
> > > > level of review and quality.
> > > >
> > > > As another example of why I believe official communications deserve
> > > > review, I am also uncomfortable with the official reply posted under
> > > > one of the videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ByUvnGx5ws&t=26s
> ),
> > > > where the project appears to promote paid services from a third-party
> > > > vendor. I think this illustrates that review should apply not only to
> > > > the videos themselves, but more generally to content published
> through
> > > > the project's official communication channels.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jacopo
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 7:40 AM Anil Patel <
> anil.patel@hotwaxsystems.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jacopo,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for raising this topic. I agree that as our official
> YouTube
> > > > > channel becomes a key resource for the community, maintaining a
> > > > > professional presentation is important for the project's public
> image.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I have a slightly different perspective on the path to
> > > achieving
> > > > > that quality.
> > > > >
> > > > > We currently see very limited contributions in terms of tutorials
> and
> > > > > community content, and I am concerned that imposing strict
> production
> > > > > standards at this stage might inadvertently stifle the few
> contributors
> > > > we
> > > > > do have. Many of our contributors are engineers, not content
> creators
> > > or
> > > > > videographers, and expecting them to be both often leads to no
> > > > contribution
> > > > > at all. I believe that right now, "something is better than
> nothing."
> > > > >
> > > > > Before we codify formal standards or guidelines, I think our
> priority
> > > > > should be enablement:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. *Building a Toolkit:* We should focus on creating a simple,
> > > > > "lightweight" toolkit—templates, basic editing guides, and
> software
> > > > > recommendations—that makes it easy for a developer to produce
> decent
> > > > > content without needing invent a process.
> > > > > 2. *Leading by Example:* We need to identify 10 solid examples
> of
> > > > videos
> > > > > published in the last few years that we consider "good." These
> can
> > > > serve as
> > > > > the benchmarks for future contributors to follow, rather than
> > > relying
> > > > on a
> > > > > rigid rulebook.
> > > > >
> > > > > Until we have such a toolkit and a more active pool of motivated
> > > > > contributors, I would prefer we avoid implementing formal best
> > > practices
> > > > or
> > > > > standards that discourage eager contributors trying new things.
> Let’s
> > > > focus
> > > > > on making it easier for people to contribute and encourage them to
> do
> > > > their
> > > > > best to help the community.
> > > > >
> > > > > I look forward to seeing how the community wants to approach this,
> and
> > > I
> > > > am
> > > > > happy to support a collaborative effort to define these kinds of
> > > > resources.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Anil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 12:28 AM Jacopo Cappellato <
> > > > > jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to open a discussion about the content that is
> published
> > > > > > on the official Apache OFBiz YouTube channel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some of the recently published videos contain useful technical
> > > > > > information and can certainly benefit users and developers.
> However,
> > > I
> > > > > > believe that content published through the project's official
> > > > > > communication channels should also meet a certain standard in
> terms
> > > of
> > > > > > presentation quality. This includes aspects such as audio
> clarity,
> > > > > > video quality, readability of the recorded screen, and the
> overall
> > > > > > structure of the presentation. The official Apache OFBiz channel
> > > > > > represents the project to the broader public, including potential
> > > > > > users, contributors, and organizations evaluating OFBiz. The
> quality
> > > > > > of the material published there contributes to the overall
> perception
> > > > > > of the project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not suggesting creating unnecessary bureaucracy or
> discouraging
> > > > > > anyone from producing content. Rather, I believe a collaborative
> > > > > > review process would help us publish material that best
> represents
> > > the
> > > > > > project while also giving authors constructive feedback before
> their
> > > > > > work becomes part of the project's official communications.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would be interested in hearing the community's thoughts, as
> well as
> > > > > > any ideas for defining practical and lightweight guidelines.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Jacopo
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Guidelines for Publishing Videos on the Official Apache OFBiz YouTube Channel
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@gmail.com>.
Hi Anil,
Of course. I think any contributor, including companies such as HotWax
Systems, is welcome to create educational content and share it with
the community.
Regarding a "Community Contributed Content" page, I would expect the
community to evaluate any proposal to include links to useful external
content, regardless of who produced it, provided that the page is
clearly presented as a collection of community resources and does not
appear to endorse any particular individual, company, or commercial
service.
Best regards,
Jacopo
On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 9:44 AM Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:
>
> Jacopo,
>
> I have a question,
>
> If the content is posted on a YouTube channel owned by HotWax Systems, will
> you allow us to link to that channel and its videos on the Community
> Contributed content page?
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> CEO
> HotWax Systems
> http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 1:02 PM Arun Patidar <ar...@hotwax.co> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jacopo,
> >
> > I have deleted the comment on the video that was accidentally posted from
> > the project's official account and have now replied using my personal
> > account. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Arun Patidar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 12:13 PM Jacopo Cappellato <
> > jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Anil,
> > >
> > > I have to disagree with the idea that "something is better than
> > > nothing". In my view, quality matters, and creating educational videos
> > > is not a mandatory activity for the project. If we currently do not
> > > have contributors with sufficient content creation skills, I think it
> > > is perfectly acceptable for the project not to publish official videos
> > > until we do.
> > >
> > > I also hope we can reach a shared understanding of the minimum quality
> > > standards expected for the project's official deliverables, regardless
> > > of their form.
> > >
> > > That said, I am absolutely in favor of encouraging engineers to
> > > experiment with content creation and develop those skills. My
> > > suggestion would simply be to have those videos published from
> > > personal accounts or channels, and then shared with the community via
> > > the mailing list or perhaps a wiki page collecting community-created
> > > content. I don't think this would discourage contributors; on the
> > > contrary, it would give them the opportunity to experiment, receive
> > > feedback, and improve their skills without making every attempt an
> > > official project publication.
> > >
> > > To me there is an important distinction between sharing content within
> > > the community and publishing content as the Apache OFBiz project. The
> > > latter represents the project itself and therefore deserves a higher
> > > level of review and quality.
> > >
> > > As another example of why I believe official communications deserve
> > > review, I am also uncomfortable with the official reply posted under
> > > one of the videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ByUvnGx5ws&t=26s),
> > > where the project appears to promote paid services from a third-party
> > > vendor. I think this illustrates that review should apply not only to
> > > the videos themselves, but more generally to content published through
> > > the project's official communication channels.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Jacopo
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 7:40 AM Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxsystems.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jacopo,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for raising this topic. I agree that as our official YouTube
> > > > channel becomes a key resource for the community, maintaining a
> > > > professional presentation is important for the project's public image.
> > > >
> > > > However, I have a slightly different perspective on the path to
> > achieving
> > > > that quality.
> > > >
> > > > We currently see very limited contributions in terms of tutorials and
> > > > community content, and I am concerned that imposing strict production
> > > > standards at this stage might inadvertently stifle the few contributors
> > > we
> > > > do have. Many of our contributors are engineers, not content creators
> > or
> > > > videographers, and expecting them to be both often leads to no
> > > contribution
> > > > at all. I believe that right now, "something is better than nothing."
> > > >
> > > > Before we codify formal standards or guidelines, I think our priority
> > > > should be enablement:
> > > >
> > > > 1. *Building a Toolkit:* We should focus on creating a simple,
> > > > "lightweight" toolkit—templates, basic editing guides, and software
> > > > recommendations—that makes it easy for a developer to produce decent
> > > > content without needing invent a process.
> > > > 2. *Leading by Example:* We need to identify 10 solid examples of
> > > videos
> > > > published in the last few years that we consider "good." These can
> > > serve as
> > > > the benchmarks for future contributors to follow, rather than
> > relying
> > > on a
> > > > rigid rulebook.
> > > >
> > > > Until we have such a toolkit and a more active pool of motivated
> > > > contributors, I would prefer we avoid implementing formal best
> > practices
> > > or
> > > > standards that discourage eager contributors trying new things. Let’s
> > > focus
> > > > on making it easier for people to contribute and encourage them to do
> > > their
> > > > best to help the community.
> > > >
> > > > I look forward to seeing how the community wants to approach this, and
> > I
> > > am
> > > > happy to support a collaborative effort to define these kinds of
> > > resources.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Anil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 12:28 AM Jacopo Cappellato <
> > > > jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to open a discussion about the content that is published
> > > > > on the official Apache OFBiz YouTube channel.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some of the recently published videos contain useful technical
> > > > > information and can certainly benefit users and developers. However,
> > I
> > > > > believe that content published through the project's official
> > > > > communication channels should also meet a certain standard in terms
> > of
> > > > > presentation quality. This includes aspects such as audio clarity,
> > > > > video quality, readability of the recorded screen, and the overall
> > > > > structure of the presentation. The official Apache OFBiz channel
> > > > > represents the project to the broader public, including potential
> > > > > users, contributors, and organizations evaluating OFBiz. The quality
> > > > > of the material published there contributes to the overall perception
> > > > > of the project.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not suggesting creating unnecessary bureaucracy or discouraging
> > > > > anyone from producing content. Rather, I believe a collaborative
> > > > > review process would help us publish material that best represents
> > the
> > > > > project while also giving authors constructive feedback before their
> > > > > work becomes part of the project's official communications.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be interested in hearing the community's thoughts, as well as
> > > > > any ideas for defining practical and lightweight guidelines.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Jacopo
> > > > >
> > >
> >
Re: [DISCUSS] Guidelines for Publishing Videos on the Official Apache OFBiz YouTube Channel
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
Jacopo,
I have a question,
If the content is posted on a YouTube channel owned by HotWax Systems, will
you allow us to link to that channel and its videos on the Community
Contributed content page?
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
CEO
HotWax Systems
http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 1:02 PM Arun Patidar <ar...@hotwax.co> wrote:
> Hi Jacopo,
>
> I have deleted the comment on the video that was accidentally posted from
> the project's official account and have now replied using my personal
> account. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
>
> Best regards,
> Arun Patidar
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 12:13 PM Jacopo Cappellato <
> jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Anil,
> >
> > I have to disagree with the idea that "something is better than
> > nothing". In my view, quality matters, and creating educational videos
> > is not a mandatory activity for the project. If we currently do not
> > have contributors with sufficient content creation skills, I think it
> > is perfectly acceptable for the project not to publish official videos
> > until we do.
> >
> > I also hope we can reach a shared understanding of the minimum quality
> > standards expected for the project's official deliverables, regardless
> > of their form.
> >
> > That said, I am absolutely in favor of encouraging engineers to
> > experiment with content creation and develop those skills. My
> > suggestion would simply be to have those videos published from
> > personal accounts or channels, and then shared with the community via
> > the mailing list or perhaps a wiki page collecting community-created
> > content. I don't think this would discourage contributors; on the
> > contrary, it would give them the opportunity to experiment, receive
> > feedback, and improve their skills without making every attempt an
> > official project publication.
> >
> > To me there is an important distinction between sharing content within
> > the community and publishing content as the Apache OFBiz project. The
> > latter represents the project itself and therefore deserves a higher
> > level of review and quality.
> >
> > As another example of why I believe official communications deserve
> > review, I am also uncomfortable with the official reply posted under
> > one of the videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ByUvnGx5ws&t=26s),
> > where the project appears to promote paid services from a third-party
> > vendor. I think this illustrates that review should apply not only to
> > the videos themselves, but more generally to content published through
> > the project's official communication channels.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Jacopo
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 7:40 AM Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxsystems.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jacopo,
> > >
> > > Thank you for raising this topic. I agree that as our official YouTube
> > > channel becomes a key resource for the community, maintaining a
> > > professional presentation is important for the project's public image.
> > >
> > > However, I have a slightly different perspective on the path to
> achieving
> > > that quality.
> > >
> > > We currently see very limited contributions in terms of tutorials and
> > > community content, and I am concerned that imposing strict production
> > > standards at this stage might inadvertently stifle the few contributors
> > we
> > > do have. Many of our contributors are engineers, not content creators
> or
> > > videographers, and expecting them to be both often leads to no
> > contribution
> > > at all. I believe that right now, "something is better than nothing."
> > >
> > > Before we codify formal standards or guidelines, I think our priority
> > > should be enablement:
> > >
> > > 1. *Building a Toolkit:* We should focus on creating a simple,
> > > "lightweight" toolkit—templates, basic editing guides, and software
> > > recommendations—that makes it easy for a developer to produce decent
> > > content without needing invent a process.
> > > 2. *Leading by Example:* We need to identify 10 solid examples of
> > videos
> > > published in the last few years that we consider "good." These can
> > serve as
> > > the benchmarks for future contributors to follow, rather than
> relying
> > on a
> > > rigid rulebook.
> > >
> > > Until we have such a toolkit and a more active pool of motivated
> > > contributors, I would prefer we avoid implementing formal best
> practices
> > or
> > > standards that discourage eager contributors trying new things. Let’s
> > focus
> > > on making it easier for people to contribute and encourage them to do
> > their
> > > best to help the community.
> > >
> > > I look forward to seeing how the community wants to approach this, and
> I
> > am
> > > happy to support a collaborative effort to define these kinds of
> > resources.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Anil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 12:28 AM Jacopo Cappellato <
> > > jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to open a discussion about the content that is published
> > > > on the official Apache OFBiz YouTube channel.
> > > >
> > > > Some of the recently published videos contain useful technical
> > > > information and can certainly benefit users and developers. However,
> I
> > > > believe that content published through the project's official
> > > > communication channels should also meet a certain standard in terms
> of
> > > > presentation quality. This includes aspects such as audio clarity,
> > > > video quality, readability of the recorded screen, and the overall
> > > > structure of the presentation. The official Apache OFBiz channel
> > > > represents the project to the broader public, including potential
> > > > users, contributors, and organizations evaluating OFBiz. The quality
> > > > of the material published there contributes to the overall perception
> > > > of the project.
> > > >
> > > > I am not suggesting creating unnecessary bureaucracy or discouraging
> > > > anyone from producing content. Rather, I believe a collaborative
> > > > review process would help us publish material that best represents
> the
> > > > project while also giving authors constructive feedback before their
> > > > work becomes part of the project's official communications.
> > > >
> > > > I would be interested in hearing the community's thoughts, as well as
> > > > any ideas for defining practical and lightweight guidelines.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Jacopo
> > > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Guidelines for Publishing Videos on the Official Apache OFBiz YouTube Channel
Posted by Arun Patidar <ar...@hotwax.co>.
Hi Jacopo,
I have deleted the comment on the video that was accidentally posted from
the project's official account and have now replied using my personal
account. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Best regards,
Arun Patidar
On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 12:13 PM Jacopo Cappellato <
jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Anil,
>
> I have to disagree with the idea that "something is better than
> nothing". In my view, quality matters, and creating educational videos
> is not a mandatory activity for the project. If we currently do not
> have contributors with sufficient content creation skills, I think it
> is perfectly acceptable for the project not to publish official videos
> until we do.
>
> I also hope we can reach a shared understanding of the minimum quality
> standards expected for the project's official deliverables, regardless
> of their form.
>
> That said, I am absolutely in favor of encouraging engineers to
> experiment with content creation and develop those skills. My
> suggestion would simply be to have those videos published from
> personal accounts or channels, and then shared with the community via
> the mailing list or perhaps a wiki page collecting community-created
> content. I don't think this would discourage contributors; on the
> contrary, it would give them the opportunity to experiment, receive
> feedback, and improve their skills without making every attempt an
> official project publication.
>
> To me there is an important distinction between sharing content within
> the community and publishing content as the Apache OFBiz project. The
> latter represents the project itself and therefore deserves a higher
> level of review and quality.
>
> As another example of why I believe official communications deserve
> review, I am also uncomfortable with the official reply posted under
> one of the videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ByUvnGx5ws&t=26s),
> where the project appears to promote paid services from a third-party
> vendor. I think this illustrates that review should apply not only to
> the videos themselves, but more generally to content published through
> the project's official communication channels.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 7:40 AM Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxsystems.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jacopo,
> >
> > Thank you for raising this topic. I agree that as our official YouTube
> > channel becomes a key resource for the community, maintaining a
> > professional presentation is important for the project's public image.
> >
> > However, I have a slightly different perspective on the path to achieving
> > that quality.
> >
> > We currently see very limited contributions in terms of tutorials and
> > community content, and I am concerned that imposing strict production
> > standards at this stage might inadvertently stifle the few contributors
> we
> > do have. Many of our contributors are engineers, not content creators or
> > videographers, and expecting them to be both often leads to no
> contribution
> > at all. I believe that right now, "something is better than nothing."
> >
> > Before we codify formal standards or guidelines, I think our priority
> > should be enablement:
> >
> > 1. *Building a Toolkit:* We should focus on creating a simple,
> > "lightweight" toolkit—templates, basic editing guides, and software
> > recommendations—that makes it easy for a developer to produce decent
> > content without needing invent a process.
> > 2. *Leading by Example:* We need to identify 10 solid examples of
> videos
> > published in the last few years that we consider "good." These can
> serve as
> > the benchmarks for future contributors to follow, rather than relying
> on a
> > rigid rulebook.
> >
> > Until we have such a toolkit and a more active pool of motivated
> > contributors, I would prefer we avoid implementing formal best practices
> or
> > standards that discourage eager contributors trying new things. Let’s
> focus
> > on making it easier for people to contribute and encourage them to do
> their
> > best to help the community.
> >
> > I look forward to seeing how the community wants to approach this, and I
> am
> > happy to support a collaborative effort to define these kinds of
> resources.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Anil
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 12:28 AM Jacopo Cappellato <
> > jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I would like to open a discussion about the content that is published
> > > on the official Apache OFBiz YouTube channel.
> > >
> > > Some of the recently published videos contain useful technical
> > > information and can certainly benefit users and developers. However, I
> > > believe that content published through the project's official
> > > communication channels should also meet a certain standard in terms of
> > > presentation quality. This includes aspects such as audio clarity,
> > > video quality, readability of the recorded screen, and the overall
> > > structure of the presentation. The official Apache OFBiz channel
> > > represents the project to the broader public, including potential
> > > users, contributors, and organizations evaluating OFBiz. The quality
> > > of the material published there contributes to the overall perception
> > > of the project.
> > >
> > > I am not suggesting creating unnecessary bureaucracy or discouraging
> > > anyone from producing content. Rather, I believe a collaborative
> > > review process would help us publish material that best represents the
> > > project while also giving authors constructive feedback before their
> > > work becomes part of the project's official communications.
> > >
> > > I would be interested in hearing the community's thoughts, as well as
> > > any ideas for defining practical and lightweight guidelines.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Jacopo
> > >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Guidelines for Publishing Videos on the Official Apache OFBiz YouTube Channel
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@gmail.com>.
Hi Anil,
I have to disagree with the idea that "something is better than
nothing". In my view, quality matters, and creating educational videos
is not a mandatory activity for the project. If we currently do not
have contributors with sufficient content creation skills, I think it
is perfectly acceptable for the project not to publish official videos
until we do.
I also hope we can reach a shared understanding of the minimum quality
standards expected for the project's official deliverables, regardless
of their form.
That said, I am absolutely in favor of encouraging engineers to
experiment with content creation and develop those skills. My
suggestion would simply be to have those videos published from
personal accounts or channels, and then shared with the community via
the mailing list or perhaps a wiki page collecting community-created
content. I don't think this would discourage contributors; on the
contrary, it would give them the opportunity to experiment, receive
feedback, and improve their skills without making every attempt an
official project publication.
To me there is an important distinction between sharing content within
the community and publishing content as the Apache OFBiz project. The
latter represents the project itself and therefore deserves a higher
level of review and quality.
As another example of why I believe official communications deserve
review, I am also uncomfortable with the official reply posted under
one of the videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ByUvnGx5ws&t=26s),
where the project appears to promote paid services from a third-party
vendor. I think this illustrates that review should apply not only to
the videos themselves, but more generally to content published through
the project's official communication channels.
Best regards,
Jacopo
On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 7:40 AM Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jacopo,
>
> Thank you for raising this topic. I agree that as our official YouTube
> channel becomes a key resource for the community, maintaining a
> professional presentation is important for the project's public image.
>
> However, I have a slightly different perspective on the path to achieving
> that quality.
>
> We currently see very limited contributions in terms of tutorials and
> community content, and I am concerned that imposing strict production
> standards at this stage might inadvertently stifle the few contributors we
> do have. Many of our contributors are engineers, not content creators or
> videographers, and expecting them to be both often leads to no contribution
> at all. I believe that right now, "something is better than nothing."
>
> Before we codify formal standards or guidelines, I think our priority
> should be enablement:
>
> 1. *Building a Toolkit:* We should focus on creating a simple,
> "lightweight" toolkit—templates, basic editing guides, and software
> recommendations—that makes it easy for a developer to produce decent
> content without needing invent a process.
> 2. *Leading by Example:* We need to identify 10 solid examples of videos
> published in the last few years that we consider "good." These can serve as
> the benchmarks for future contributors to follow, rather than relying on a
> rigid rulebook.
>
> Until we have such a toolkit and a more active pool of motivated
> contributors, I would prefer we avoid implementing formal best practices or
> standards that discourage eager contributors trying new things. Let’s focus
> on making it easier for people to contribute and encourage them to do their
> best to help the community.
>
> I look forward to seeing how the community wants to approach this, and I am
> happy to support a collaborative effort to define these kinds of resources.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Anil
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 12:28 AM Jacopo Cappellato <
> jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I would like to open a discussion about the content that is published
> > on the official Apache OFBiz YouTube channel.
> >
> > Some of the recently published videos contain useful technical
> > information and can certainly benefit users and developers. However, I
> > believe that content published through the project's official
> > communication channels should also meet a certain standard in terms of
> > presentation quality. This includes aspects such as audio clarity,
> > video quality, readability of the recorded screen, and the overall
> > structure of the presentation. The official Apache OFBiz channel
> > represents the project to the broader public, including potential
> > users, contributors, and organizations evaluating OFBiz. The quality
> > of the material published there contributes to the overall perception
> > of the project.
> >
> > I am not suggesting creating unnecessary bureaucracy or discouraging
> > anyone from producing content. Rather, I believe a collaborative
> > review process would help us publish material that best represents the
> > project while also giving authors constructive feedback before their
> > work becomes part of the project's official communications.
> >
> > I would be interested in hearing the community's thoughts, as well as
> > any ideas for defining practical and lightweight guidelines.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jacopo
> >
Re: [DISCUSS] Guidelines for Publishing Videos on the Official Apache OFBiz YouTube Channel
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
Hi Jacopo,
Thank you for raising this topic. I agree that as our official YouTube
channel becomes a key resource for the community, maintaining a
professional presentation is important for the project's public image.
However, I have a slightly different perspective on the path to achieving
that quality.
We currently see very limited contributions in terms of tutorials and
community content, and I am concerned that imposing strict production
standards at this stage might inadvertently stifle the few contributors we
do have. Many of our contributors are engineers, not content creators or
videographers, and expecting them to be both often leads to no contribution
at all. I believe that right now, "something is better than nothing."
Before we codify formal standards or guidelines, I think our priority
should be enablement:
1. *Building a Toolkit:* We should focus on creating a simple,
"lightweight" toolkit—templates, basic editing guides, and software
recommendations—that makes it easy for a developer to produce decent
content without needing invent a process.
2. *Leading by Example:* We need to identify 10 solid examples of videos
published in the last few years that we consider "good." These can serve as
the benchmarks for future contributors to follow, rather than relying on a
rigid rulebook.
Until we have such a toolkit and a more active pool of motivated
contributors, I would prefer we avoid implementing formal best practices or
standards that discourage eager contributors trying new things. Let’s focus
on making it easier for people to contribute and encourage them to do their
best to help the community.
I look forward to seeing how the community wants to approach this, and I am
happy to support a collaborative effort to define these kinds of resources.
Best regards,
Anil
On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 12:28 AM Jacopo Cappellato <
jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to open a discussion about the content that is published
> on the official Apache OFBiz YouTube channel.
>
> Some of the recently published videos contain useful technical
> information and can certainly benefit users and developers. However, I
> believe that content published through the project's official
> communication channels should also meet a certain standard in terms of
> presentation quality. This includes aspects such as audio clarity,
> video quality, readability of the recorded screen, and the overall
> structure of the presentation. The official Apache OFBiz channel
> represents the project to the broader public, including potential
> users, contributors, and organizations evaluating OFBiz. The quality
> of the material published there contributes to the overall perception
> of the project.
>
> I am not suggesting creating unnecessary bureaucracy or discouraging
> anyone from producing content. Rather, I believe a collaborative
> review process would help us publish material that best represents the
> project while also giving authors constructive feedback before their
> work becomes part of the project's official communications.
>
> I would be interested in hearing the community's thoughts, as well as
> any ideas for defining practical and lightweight guidelines.
>
> Best regards,
> Jacopo
>