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Posted to dev@solr.apache.org by Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID> on 2025/08/25 14:38:03 UTC
RE: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
Hi,
Could you please share the system specifications required for the tests to run smoothly on s390x? We are working on providing new hardware.
Regards,
Sudip Roy
-----Original Message-----
From: Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID>
Sent: 23 July 2025 12:16
To: dev@solr.apache.org
Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
Hi Houston,
Thanks for the clarification. Totally understand the concern around flaky tests due to hardware limitations.
We can look into upgrading the hardware for the s390x runners to better support the test suite. Could you please share the kind of configuration that will be needed?
Regards,
Sudip Roy
-----Original Message-----
From: Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>
Sent: 23 July 2025 07:01
To: dev@solr.apache.org
Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
Yeah, that was me.
I am obviously happy to have Solr tested on as many architectures as possible. It's just a problem when the tests are much more likely failing because of underpowered hardware on the test runner. So in order to clean up our failing tests reporter, I thought it made sense to disable the s390x builds.
Would it be possible to get a more powerful test runner so that our tests are much less flaky on it?
- Houston
On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:38 PM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> There was a previous question about this on the mailing list a few
> days ago
> -
> https://lists.apache.org/
> &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHSt
> GQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedPf3_eiwGp
> M5dBxLF&s=uGXAmJvZxR4cqsyX1rWq5TBSTbvUOM8hKkzX8OploBY&e=
> thread_5lzz0320n9v5ljnk1hwwplxpylqr1zbj&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyT
> cHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5
> _A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=GA_jY-Erfm8AHZbBxX_cv
> KKGxEi1e0nMPhsl36Y4Qnw&e=
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:27 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > has
> been
> > disabled recently
> >
> > I don't remember seeing this architecture before. Are you referring
> > to
> this
> > architecture being used in ASF Jenkins for Apache Solr project?
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 10:25, Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > has
> been
> > > disabled recently. We rely on Apache Solr on s390x systems, and
> > > the
> > removal
> > > of CI coverage makes it more difficult to ensure ongoing
> > > compatibility
> > and
> > > catch regressions early.
> > > I've raised a JIRA issue about this concern (
> > > https://issues.apache
> > > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHA
> > > uHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedP
> > > f3_eiwGpM5dBxLF&s=w9pAsho8IsjTGtic3OSqQ6kiUhQKs3qgjc7MhhZLun4&e=
> > > .org_jira_browse_SOLR-2D17807&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5_A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=r2fm48wDw9SQmfm9J5m8-0deIZS8t0zpXk_YcgEUgV8&e= ), and I was advised there to ask on the solr-dev mailing list for more information.
> > > We're happy to help if there's an opportunity to collaborate on
> restoring
> > > support for s390x.
> > > Thanks in advance for your time and help.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Sudip Roy
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
Posted by Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>.
Can’t you add a junit ignore rule/annotation for this test that triggers when on s390x, similar to what we have for some other tests that e.g. should not run on windows?
Jan Høydahl
> 9. des. 2025 kl. 23:49 skrev David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>:
>
> It would also be quite reasonable that we modify our build to easily
> exclude Docker tests like these, in spite of Docker being available. CC @Jan
> Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>
>
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 1:20 AM Sudip Roy via dev <de...@solr.apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for informing us.
>> We’ve been looking into the Tika-related test failures on s390x.
>> It appears that the Apache Tika does not yet provide support for s390x,
>> which looks to be the root cause of the failures we are seeing in Apache
>> Solr tests.
>> Our team is actively working on addressing this gap, and we’ll share
>> updates as soon as we have progress.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sudip Roy
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>
>> Sent: 01 December 2025 11:43
>> To: dev@solr.apache.org <de...@solr.apache.org>
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in
>> Apache Solr
>>
>> So far so good except the Docker based tests for our use of Tika (recently
>> added, by the way), are unhappy:
>>
>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Solr/job/Solr-Test-main-s390x/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the detailed information.
>>>
>>> Regarding the parallel tests, would it be possible to reduce the number
>> of
>>> parallel test executions on the runners to see if that helps?
>>> Please let us know if there's anything we can do to support. We're more
>>> than happy to assist with anything needed on our side.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sudip Roy
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>
>>> Sent: 26 August 2025 09:33
>>> To: dev@solr.apache.org <de...@solr.apache.org>
>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in
>>> Apache Solr
>>>
>>> I don't think we know how to answer that other than to say -- similar to
>>> other machines. Which is no special hardware, really. I'm skeptical
>>> replacing the machine with a faster one actually solves anything
>>> fundamentally.
>>>
>>> I suspect that the real underlying problem is flakiness in Solr that
>>> triggers in scenarios when Solr is running slowly for whatever reason,
>>> which could be doing too much work in parallel (like too many tests in
>>> parallel). Maybe we could simply configure that build to use fewer test
>>> runners.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 10:38 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Could you please share the system specifications required for the tests
>>> to
>>>> run smoothly on s390x? We are working on providing new hardware.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sudip Roy
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID>
>>>> Sent: 23 July 2025 12:16
>>>> To: dev@solr.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
>>>>
>>>> Hi Houston,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the clarification. Totally understand the concern around
>> flaky
>>>> tests due to hardware limitations.
>>>> We can look into upgrading the hardware for the s390x runners to better
>>>> support the test suite. Could you please share the kind of
>> configuration
>>>> that will be needed?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sudip Roy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>
>>>> Sent: 23 July 2025 07:01
>>>> To: dev@solr.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that was me.
>>>>
>>>> I am obviously happy to have Solr tested on as many architectures as
>>>> possible. It's just a problem when the tests are much more likely
>> failing
>>>> because of underpowered hardware on the test runner. So in order to
>> clean
>>>> up our failing tests reporter, I thought it made sense to disable the
>>> s390x
>>>> builds.
>>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to get a more powerful test runner so that our
>> tests
>>>> are much less flaky on it?
>>>>
>>>> - Houston
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:38 PM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There was a previous question about this on the mailing list a few
>>>>> days ago
>>>>> -
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/
>>>>>
>> &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHSt
>>>>>
>> GQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedPf3_eiwGp
>>>>> M5dBxLF&s=uGXAmJvZxR4cqsyX1rWq5TBSTbvUOM8hKkzX8OploBY&e=
>>>>>
>> thread_5lzz0320n9v5ljnk1hwwplxpylqr1zbj&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyT
>>>>>
>> cHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5
>>>>>
>> _A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=GA_jY-Erfm8AHZbBxX_cv
>>>>> KKGxEi1e0nMPhsl36Y4Qnw&e=
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:27 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
>>>>> ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
>>>>>>> has
>>>>> been
>>>>>> disabled recently
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't remember seeing this architecture before. Are you referring
>>>>>> to
>>>>> this
>>>>>> architecture being used in ASF Jenkins for Apache Solr project?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 10:25, Sudip Roy <Sudip.Roy2@ibm.com.invalid
>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
>>>>>>> has
>>>>> been
>>>>>>> disabled recently. We rely on Apache Solr on s390x systems, and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> removal
>>>>>>> of CI coverage makes it more difficult to ensure ongoing
>>>>>>> compatibility
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> catch regressions early.
>>>>>>> I've raised a JIRA issue about this concern (
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache
>>>>>>>
>> &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHA
>>>>>>>
>> uHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedP
>>>>>>> f3_eiwGpM5dBxLF&s=w9pAsho8IsjTGtic3OSqQ6kiUhQKs3qgjc7MhhZLun4&e=
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> .org_jira_browse_SOLR-2D17807&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5_A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=r2fm48wDw9SQmfm9J5m8-0deIZS8t0zpXk_YcgEUgV8&e=
>>>> ), and I was advised there to ask on the solr-dev mailing list for more
>>>> information.
>>>>>>> We're happy to help if there's an opportunity to collaborate on
>>>>> restoring
>>>>>>> support for s390x.
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your time and help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Sudip Roy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
Posted by David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>.
It would also be quite reasonable that we modify our build to easily
exclude Docker tests like these, in spite of Docker being available. CC @Jan
Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>
On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 1:20 AM Sudip Roy via dev <de...@solr.apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for informing us.
> We’ve been looking into the Tika-related test failures on s390x.
> It appears that the Apache Tika does not yet provide support for s390x,
> which looks to be the root cause of the failures we are seeing in Apache
> Solr tests.
> Our team is actively working on addressing this gap, and we’ll share
> updates as soon as we have progress.
>
> Regards,
> Sudip Roy
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>
> Sent: 01 December 2025 11:43
> To: dev@solr.apache.org <de...@solr.apache.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in
> Apache Solr
>
> So far so good except the Docker based tests for our use of Tika (recently
> added, by the way), are unhappy:
>
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Solr/job/Solr-Test-main-s390x/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thank you for the detailed information.
> >
> > Regarding the parallel tests, would it be possible to reduce the number
> of
> > parallel test executions on the runners to see if that helps?
> > Please let us know if there's anything we can do to support. We're more
> > than happy to assist with anything needed on our side.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sudip Roy
> > ________________________________
> > From: David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>
> > Sent: 26 August 2025 09:33
> > To: dev@solr.apache.org <de...@solr.apache.org>
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in
> > Apache Solr
> >
> > I don't think we know how to answer that other than to say -- similar to
> > other machines. Which is no special hardware, really. I'm skeptical
> > replacing the machine with a faster one actually solves anything
> > fundamentally.
> >
> > I suspect that the real underlying problem is flakiness in Solr that
> > triggers in scenarios when Solr is running slowly for whatever reason,
> > which could be doing too much work in parallel (like too many tests in
> > parallel). Maybe we could simply configure that build to use fewer test
> > runners.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 10:38 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Could you please share the system specifications required for the tests
> > to
> > > run smoothly on s390x? We are working on providing new hardware.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Sudip Roy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID>
> > > Sent: 23 July 2025 12:16
> > > To: dev@solr.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
> > >
> > > Hi Houston,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the clarification. Totally understand the concern around
> flaky
> > > tests due to hardware limitations.
> > > We can look into upgrading the hardware for the s390x runners to better
> > > support the test suite. Could you please share the kind of
> configuration
> > > that will be needed?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Sudip Roy
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>
> > > Sent: 23 July 2025 07:01
> > > To: dev@solr.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
> > >
> > > Yeah, that was me.
> > >
> > > I am obviously happy to have Solr tested on as many architectures as
> > > possible. It's just a problem when the tests are much more likely
> failing
> > > because of underpowered hardware on the test runner. So in order to
> clean
> > > up our failing tests reporter, I thought it made sense to disable the
> > s390x
> > > builds.
> > >
> > > Would it be possible to get a more powerful test runner so that our
> tests
> > > are much less flaky on it?
> > >
> > > - Houston
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:38 PM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There was a previous question about this on the mailing list a few
> > > > days ago
> > > > -
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/
> > > >
> &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHSt
> > > >
> GQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedPf3_eiwGp
> > > > M5dBxLF&s=uGXAmJvZxR4cqsyX1rWq5TBSTbvUOM8hKkzX8OploBY&e=
> > > >
> thread_5lzz0320n9v5ljnk1hwwplxpylqr1zbj&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyT
> > > >
> cHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5
> > > >
> _A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=GA_jY-Erfm8AHZbBxX_cv
> > > > KKGxEi1e0nMPhsl36Y4Qnw&e=
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:27 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > > > ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > > > has
> > > > been
> > > > > disabled recently
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't remember seeing this architecture before. Are you referring
> > > > > to
> > > > this
> > > > > architecture being used in ASF Jenkins for Apache Solr project?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 10:25, Sudip Roy <Sudip.Roy2@ibm.com.invalid
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > > > has
> > > > been
> > > > > > disabled recently. We rely on Apache Solr on s390x systems, and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > removal
> > > > > > of CI coverage makes it more difficult to ensure ongoing
> > > > > > compatibility
> > > > > and
> > > > > > catch regressions early.
> > > > > > I've raised a JIRA issue about this concern (
> > > > > > https://issues.apache
> > > > > >
> &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHA
> > > > > >
> uHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedP
> > > > > > f3_eiwGpM5dBxLF&s=w9pAsho8IsjTGtic3OSqQ6kiUhQKs3qgjc7MhhZLun4&e=
> > > > > >
> > >
> >
> .org_jira_browse_SOLR-2D17807&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5_A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=r2fm48wDw9SQmfm9J5m8-0deIZS8t0zpXk_YcgEUgV8&e=
> > > ), and I was advised there to ask on the solr-dev mailing list for more
> > > information.
> > > > > > We're happy to help if there's an opportunity to collaborate on
> > > > restoring
> > > > > > support for s390x.
> > > > > > Thanks in advance for your time and help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Sudip Roy
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org For additional
> > > commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
>
RE: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
Posted by Sudip Roy via dev <de...@solr.apache.org>.
Hi,
Thanks for informing us.
We’ve been looking into the Tika-related test failures on s390x.
It appears that the Apache Tika does not yet provide support for s390x, which looks to be the root cause of the failures we are seeing in Apache Solr tests.
Our team is actively working on addressing this gap, and we’ll share updates as soon as we have progress.
Regards,
Sudip Roy
________________________________
From: David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>
Sent: 01 December 2025 11:43
To: dev@solr.apache.org <de...@solr.apache.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
So far so good except the Docker based tests for our use of Tika (recently
added, by the way), are unhappy:
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Solr/job/Solr-Test-main-s390x/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you for the detailed information.
>
> Regarding the parallel tests, would it be possible to reduce the number of
> parallel test executions on the runners to see if that helps?
> Please let us know if there's anything we can do to support. We're more
> than happy to assist with anything needed on our side.
>
> Regards,
> Sudip Roy
> ________________________________
> From: David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>
> Sent: 26 August 2025 09:33
> To: dev@solr.apache.org <de...@solr.apache.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in
> Apache Solr
>
> I don't think we know how to answer that other than to say -- similar to
> other machines. Which is no special hardware, really. I'm skeptical
> replacing the machine with a faster one actually solves anything
> fundamentally.
>
> I suspect that the real underlying problem is flakiness in Solr that
> triggers in scenarios when Solr is running slowly for whatever reason,
> which could be doing too much work in parallel (like too many tests in
> parallel). Maybe we could simply configure that build to use fewer test
> runners.
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 10:38 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could you please share the system specifications required for the tests
> to
> > run smoothly on s390x? We are working on providing new hardware.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sudip Roy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID>
> > Sent: 23 July 2025 12:16
> > To: dev@solr.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
> >
> > Hi Houston,
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification. Totally understand the concern around flaky
> > tests due to hardware limitations.
> > We can look into upgrading the hardware for the s390x runners to better
> > support the test suite. Could you please share the kind of configuration
> > that will be needed?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sudip Roy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>
> > Sent: 23 July 2025 07:01
> > To: dev@solr.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
> >
> > Yeah, that was me.
> >
> > I am obviously happy to have Solr tested on as many architectures as
> > possible. It's just a problem when the tests are much more likely failing
> > because of underpowered hardware on the test runner. So in order to clean
> > up our failing tests reporter, I thought it made sense to disable the
> s390x
> > builds.
> >
> > Would it be possible to get a more powerful test runner so that our tests
> > are much less flaky on it?
> >
> > - Houston
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:38 PM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > There was a previous question about this on the mailing list a few
> > > days ago
> > > -
> > > https://lists.apache.org/
> > > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHSt
> > > GQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedPf3_eiwGp
> > > M5dBxLF&s=uGXAmJvZxR4cqsyX1rWq5TBSTbvUOM8hKkzX8OploBY&e=
> > > thread_5lzz0320n9v5ljnk1hwwplxpylqr1zbj&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyT
> > > cHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5
> > > _A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=GA_jY-Erfm8AHZbBxX_cv
> > > KKGxEi1e0nMPhsl36Y4Qnw&e=
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:27 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > > ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > > has
> > > been
> > > > disabled recently
> > > >
> > > > I don't remember seeing this architecture before. Are you referring
> > > > to
> > > this
> > > > architecture being used in ASF Jenkins for Apache Solr project?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 10:25, Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > > has
> > > been
> > > > > disabled recently. We rely on Apache Solr on s390x systems, and
> > > > > the
> > > > removal
> > > > > of CI coverage makes it more difficult to ensure ongoing
> > > > > compatibility
> > > > and
> > > > > catch regressions early.
> > > > > I've raised a JIRA issue about this concern (
> > > > > https://issues.apache
> > > > > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHA
> > > > > uHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedP
> > > > > f3_eiwGpM5dBxLF&s=w9pAsho8IsjTGtic3OSqQ6kiUhQKs3qgjc7MhhZLun4&e=
> > > > >
> >
> .org_jira_browse_SOLR-2D17807&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5_A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=r2fm48wDw9SQmfm9J5m8-0deIZS8t0zpXk_YcgEUgV8&e=
> > ), and I was advised there to ask on the solr-dev mailing list for more
> > information.
> > > > > We're happy to help if there's an opportunity to collaborate on
> > > restoring
> > > > > support for s390x.
> > > > > Thanks in advance for your time and help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Sudip Roy
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org For additional
> > commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
RE: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
Posted by Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID>.
Hi,
Thank you for the detailed information.
Regarding the parallel tests, would it be possible to reduce the number of parallel test executions on the runners to see if that helps?
Please let us know if there's anything we can do to support. We're more than happy to assist with anything needed on our side.
Regards,
Sudip Roy
________________________________
From: David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>
Sent: 26 August 2025 09:33
To: dev@solr.apache.org <de...@solr.apache.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
I don't think we know how to answer that other than to say -- similar to
other machines. Which is no special hardware, really. I'm skeptical
replacing the machine with a faster one actually solves anything
fundamentally.
I suspect that the real underlying problem is flakiness in Solr that
triggers in scenarios when Solr is running slowly for whatever reason,
which could be doing too much work in parallel (like too many tests in
parallel). Maybe we could simply configure that build to use fewer test
runners.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 10:38 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could you please share the system specifications required for the tests to
> run smoothly on s390x? We are working on providing new hardware.
>
> Regards,
> Sudip Roy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID>
> Sent: 23 July 2025 12:16
> To: dev@solr.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
>
> Hi Houston,
>
> Thanks for the clarification. Totally understand the concern around flaky
> tests due to hardware limitations.
> We can look into upgrading the hardware for the s390x runners to better
> support the test suite. Could you please share the kind of configuration
> that will be needed?
>
> Regards,
> Sudip Roy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>
> Sent: 23 July 2025 07:01
> To: dev@solr.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
>
> Yeah, that was me.
>
> I am obviously happy to have Solr tested on as many architectures as
> possible. It's just a problem when the tests are much more likely failing
> because of underpowered hardware on the test runner. So in order to clean
> up our failing tests reporter, I thought it made sense to disable the s390x
> builds.
>
> Would it be possible to get a more powerful test runner so that our tests
> are much less flaky on it?
>
> - Houston
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:38 PM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > There was a previous question about this on the mailing list a few
> > days ago
> > -
> > https://lists.apache.org/
> > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHSt
> > GQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedPf3_eiwGp
> > M5dBxLF&s=uGXAmJvZxR4cqsyX1rWq5TBSTbvUOM8hKkzX8OploBY&e=
> > thread_5lzz0320n9v5ljnk1hwwplxpylqr1zbj&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyT
> > cHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5
> > _A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=GA_jY-Erfm8AHZbBxX_cv
> > KKGxEi1e0nMPhsl36Y4Qnw&e=
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:27 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > has
> > been
> > > disabled recently
> > >
> > > I don't remember seeing this architecture before. Are you referring
> > > to
> > this
> > > architecture being used in ASF Jenkins for Apache Solr project?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 10:25, Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > has
> > been
> > > > disabled recently. We rely on Apache Solr on s390x systems, and
> > > > the
> > > removal
> > > > of CI coverage makes it more difficult to ensure ongoing
> > > > compatibility
> > > and
> > > > catch regressions early.
> > > > I've raised a JIRA issue about this concern (
> > > > https://issues.apache
> > > > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHA
> > > > uHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedP
> > > > f3_eiwGpM5dBxLF&s=w9pAsho8IsjTGtic3OSqQ6kiUhQKs3qgjc7MhhZLun4&e=
> > > >
> .org_jira_browse_SOLR-2D17807&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5_A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=r2fm48wDw9SQmfm9J5m8-0deIZS8t0zpXk_YcgEUgV8&e=
> ), and I was advised there to ask on the solr-dev mailing list for more
> information.
> > > > We're happy to help if there's an opportunity to collaborate on
> > restoring
> > > > support for s390x.
> > > > Thanks in advance for your time and help.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Sudip Roy
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org For additional
> commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
>
>
Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
Posted by David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>.
I re-enabled this jenkins job, configured for weekly runs now, not daily.
We have other CI servers, notably Crave, that run about 96 threads, and
tests pass. So I don't think the thread level is unreasonable. The s390X
build is running now...
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Solr/job/Solr-Test-main-s390x/1010/console
On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 8:44 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you for the detailed information.
>
> Regarding the parallel tests, would it be possible to reduce the number of
> parallel test executions on the runners to see if that helps?
> Please let us know if there's anything we can do to support. We're more
> than happy to assist with anything needed on our side.
>
> Regards,
> Sudip Roy
> ________________________________
> From: David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>
> Sent: 26 August 2025 09:33
> To: dev@solr.apache.org <de...@solr.apache.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in
> Apache Solr
>
> I don't think we know how to answer that other than to say -- similar to
> other machines. Which is no special hardware, really. I'm skeptical
> replacing the machine with a faster one actually solves anything
> fundamentally.
>
> I suspect that the real underlying problem is flakiness in Solr that
> triggers in scenarios when Solr is running slowly for whatever reason,
> which could be doing too much work in parallel (like too many tests in
> parallel). Maybe we could simply configure that build to use fewer test
> runners.
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 10:38 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could you please share the system specifications required for the tests
> to
> > run smoothly on s390x? We are working on providing new hardware.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sudip Roy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID>
> > Sent: 23 July 2025 12:16
> > To: dev@solr.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
> >
> > Hi Houston,
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification. Totally understand the concern around flaky
> > tests due to hardware limitations.
> > We can look into upgrading the hardware for the s390x runners to better
> > support the test suite. Could you please share the kind of configuration
> > that will be needed?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sudip Roy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>
> > Sent: 23 July 2025 07:01
> > To: dev@solr.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
> >
> > Yeah, that was me.
> >
> > I am obviously happy to have Solr tested on as many architectures as
> > possible. It's just a problem when the tests are much more likely failing
> > because of underpowered hardware on the test runner. So in order to clean
> > up our failing tests reporter, I thought it made sense to disable the
> s390x
> > builds.
> >
> > Would it be possible to get a more powerful test runner so that our tests
> > are much less flaky on it?
> >
> > - Houston
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:38 PM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > There was a previous question about this on the mailing list a few
> > > days ago
> > > -
> > > https://lists.apache.org/
> > > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHSt
> > > GQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedPf3_eiwGp
> > > M5dBxLF&s=uGXAmJvZxR4cqsyX1rWq5TBSTbvUOM8hKkzX8OploBY&e=
> > > thread_5lzz0320n9v5ljnk1hwwplxpylqr1zbj&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyT
> > > cHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5
> > > _A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=GA_jY-Erfm8AHZbBxX_cv
> > > KKGxEi1e0nMPhsl36Y4Qnw&e=
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:27 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > > ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > > has
> > > been
> > > > disabled recently
> > > >
> > > > I don't remember seeing this architecture before. Are you referring
> > > > to
> > > this
> > > > architecture being used in ASF Jenkins for Apache Solr project?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 10:25, Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > > has
> > > been
> > > > > disabled recently. We rely on Apache Solr on s390x systems, and
> > > > > the
> > > > removal
> > > > > of CI coverage makes it more difficult to ensure ongoing
> > > > > compatibility
> > > > and
> > > > > catch regressions early.
> > > > > I've raised a JIRA issue about this concern (
> > > > > https://issues.apache
> > > > > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHA
> > > > > uHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedP
> > > > > f3_eiwGpM5dBxLF&s=w9pAsho8IsjTGtic3OSqQ6kiUhQKs3qgjc7MhhZLun4&e=
> > > > >
> >
> .org_jira_browse_SOLR-2D17807&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5_A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=r2fm48wDw9SQmfm9J5m8-0deIZS8t0zpXk_YcgEUgV8&e=
> > ), and I was advised there to ask on the solr-dev mailing list for more
> > information.
> > > > > We're happy to help if there's an opportunity to collaborate on
> > > restoring
> > > > > support for s390x.
> > > > > Thanks in advance for your time and help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Sudip Roy
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org For additional
> > commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> >
> >
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> >
> >
>
RE: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
Posted by Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID>.
Hi,
Thank you for the detailed information.
Regarding the parallel tests, would it be possible to reduce the number of parallel test executions on the runners to see if that helps?
Please let us know if there's anything we can do to support. We're more than happy to assist with anything needed on our side.
Regards,
Sudip Roy
________________________________
From: David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>
Sent: 26 August 2025 09:33
To: dev@solr.apache.org <de...@solr.apache.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
I don't think we know how to answer that other than to say -- similar to
other machines. Which is no special hardware, really. I'm skeptical
replacing the machine with a faster one actually solves anything
fundamentally.
I suspect that the real underlying problem is flakiness in Solr that
triggers in scenarios when Solr is running slowly for whatever reason,
which could be doing too much work in parallel (like too many tests in
parallel). Maybe we could simply configure that build to use fewer test
runners.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 10:38 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could you please share the system specifications required for the tests to
> run smoothly on s390x? We are working on providing new hardware.
>
> Regards,
> Sudip Roy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID>
> Sent: 23 July 2025 12:16
> To: dev@solr.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
>
> Hi Houston,
>
> Thanks for the clarification. Totally understand the concern around flaky
> tests due to hardware limitations.
> We can look into upgrading the hardware for the s390x runners to better
> support the test suite. Could you please share the kind of configuration
> that will be needed?
>
> Regards,
> Sudip Roy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>
> Sent: 23 July 2025 07:01
> To: dev@solr.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
>
> Yeah, that was me.
>
> I am obviously happy to have Solr tested on as many architectures as
> possible. It's just a problem when the tests are much more likely failing
> because of underpowered hardware on the test runner. So in order to clean
> up our failing tests reporter, I thought it made sense to disable the s390x
> builds.
>
> Would it be possible to get a more powerful test runner so that our tests
> are much less flaky on it?
>
> - Houston
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:38 PM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > There was a previous question about this on the mailing list a few
> > days ago
> > -
> > https://lists.apache.org/
> > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHSt
> > GQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedPf3_eiwGp
> > M5dBxLF&s=uGXAmJvZxR4cqsyX1rWq5TBSTbvUOM8hKkzX8OploBY&e=
> > thread_5lzz0320n9v5ljnk1hwwplxpylqr1zbj&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyT
> > cHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5
> > _A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=GA_jY-Erfm8AHZbBxX_cv
> > KKGxEi1e0nMPhsl36Y4Qnw&e=
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:27 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > has
> > been
> > > disabled recently
> > >
> > > I don't remember seeing this architecture before. Are you referring
> > > to
> > this
> > > architecture being used in ASF Jenkins for Apache Solr project?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 10:25, Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > has
> > been
> > > > disabled recently. We rely on Apache Solr on s390x systems, and
> > > > the
> > > removal
> > > > of CI coverage makes it more difficult to ensure ongoing
> > > > compatibility
> > > and
> > > > catch regressions early.
> > > > I've raised a JIRA issue about this concern (
> > > > https://issues.apache
> > > > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHA
> > > > uHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedP
> > > > f3_eiwGpM5dBxLF&s=w9pAsho8IsjTGtic3OSqQ6kiUhQKs3qgjc7MhhZLun4&e=
> > > >
> .org_jira_browse_SOLR-2D17807&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5_A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=r2fm48wDw9SQmfm9J5m8-0deIZS8t0zpXk_YcgEUgV8&e=
> ), and I was advised there to ask on the solr-dev mailing list for more
> information.
> > > > We're happy to help if there's an opportunity to collaborate on
> > restoring
> > > > support for s390x.
> > > > Thanks in advance for your time and help.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Sudip Roy
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
Posted by David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>.
I don't think we know how to answer that other than to say -- similar to
other machines. Which is no special hardware, really. I'm skeptical
replacing the machine with a faster one actually solves anything
fundamentally.
I suspect that the real underlying problem is flakiness in Solr that
triggers in scenarios when Solr is running slowly for whatever reason,
which could be doing too much work in parallel (like too many tests in
parallel). Maybe we could simply configure that build to use fewer test
runners.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 10:38 AM Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could you please share the system specifications required for the tests to
> run smoothly on s390x? We are working on providing new hardware.
>
> Regards,
> Sudip Roy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.INVALID>
> Sent: 23 July 2025 12:16
> To: dev@solr.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
>
> Hi Houston,
>
> Thanks for the clarification. Totally understand the concern around flaky
> tests due to hardware limitations.
> We can look into upgrading the hardware for the s390x runners to better
> support the test suite. Could you please share the kind of configuration
> that will be needed?
>
> Regards,
> Sudip Roy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>
> Sent: 23 July 2025 07:01
> To: dev@solr.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Inquire About Recent Disabling of s390x CI in Apache Solr
>
> Yeah, that was me.
>
> I am obviously happy to have Solr tested on as many architectures as
> possible. It's just a problem when the tests are much more likely failing
> because of underpowered hardware on the test runner. So in order to clean
> up our failing tests reporter, I thought it made sense to disable the s390x
> builds.
>
> Would it be possible to get a more powerful test runner so that our tests
> are much less flaky on it?
>
> - Houston
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:38 PM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > There was a previous question about this on the mailing list a few
> > days ago
> > -
> > https://lists.apache.org/
> > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHSt
> > GQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedPf3_eiwGp
> > M5dBxLF&s=uGXAmJvZxR4cqsyX1rWq5TBSTbvUOM8hKkzX8OploBY&e=
> > thread_5lzz0320n9v5ljnk1hwwplxpylqr1zbj&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyT
> > cHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5
> > _A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=GA_jY-Erfm8AHZbBxX_cv
> > KKGxEi1e0nMPhsl36Y4Qnw&e=
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:27 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > has
> > been
> > > disabled recently
> > >
> > > I don't remember seeing this architecture before. Are you referring
> > > to
> > this
> > > architecture being used in ASF Jenkins for Apache Solr project?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 10:25, Sudip Roy <Su...@ibm.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I noticed that Apache Solr CI support for the s390x architecture
> > > > has
> > been
> > > > disabled recently. We rely on Apache Solr on s390x systems, and
> > > > the
> > > removal
> > > > of CI coverage makes it more difficult to ensure ongoing
> > > > compatibility
> > > and
> > > > catch regressions early.
> > > > I've raised a JIRA issue about this concern (
> > > > https://issues.apache
> > > > &d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHA
> > > > uHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=_EQkWWBOawwWgF6Yhsg_NMTBa24rwkEPJg6-TP6kCwXUagedP
> > > > f3_eiwGpM5dBxLF&s=w9pAsho8IsjTGtic3OSqQ6kiUhQKs3qgjc7MhhZLun4&e=
> > > >
> .org_jira_browse_SOLR-2D17807&d=DwIFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=89rAlzwEGrdOvdu8CVs_Po_VWALHAuHStGQRY8YB0i8&m=vwNQSnAJr8opb7WsL5_A66dYCzQNzWgxsZ6E_gx13k45UFR-yfe_ifZtIOO-Xr-A&s=r2fm48wDw9SQmfm9J5m8-0deIZS8t0zpXk_YcgEUgV8&e=
> ), and I was advised there to ask on the solr-dev mailing list for more
> information.
> > > > We're happy to help if there's an opportunity to collaborate on
> > restoring
> > > > support for s390x.
> > > > Thanks in advance for your time and help.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Sudip Roy
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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