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Posted to dev@continuum.apache.org by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> on 2010/01/18 00:44:41 UTC
roadmap for 1.4?
Hi,
I was looking at JIRA last week and thinking about where we want to go with the next release. We have 1.3.5 being voted on and just a very few issues for 1.3.6 (and anything critical that comes up in the 1.3.5 release might be included there). I see Wendy has just posted covering that.
For 1.4.0, there are a few new features in already, with about 20 or so issues closed. A lot are duplicated with 1.3.x - do we need to use both versions in JIRA when 1.4.0 hasn't been released? I thought the two versions was mainly used to indicate when a 1.4.x version had been backported to 1.3.x later on.
Beyond that, there are about 40 issues for 1.4.0 and another 40 for 1.4.1, covering a range of objectives. I thought it would be good to cut the 1.4.0 list down to a bare minimum, so that the features already done can go out in an alpha release. Then perhaps we could set an objective for the 1.4 GA release and find the issues that best relate to that. I think it'd be good to have a documented goal that we can assess issues against from the backlog, or incoming ones.
For mine, I'd like the 1.4 series to just focus on frequent problems and usability issues, such as those that Sebb has been so diligently raising recently.
Concurrently, like Emmanuel, I'd like to start talking about some architectural changes for releases beyond 1.5.
What do others think?
- Brett
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
Re: roadmap for 1.4?
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
If you are keen to fix them, that's ok - but for mine, I think for things like this I'd like to put them all into a bucket for unreliable database bits and try and take care of them in 1.5.
We still need to cut down the list of things for 1.4 and try and ship what's already in there, I've been tossing a lot into that group and it's probably too much.
On 20/02/2010, at 1:30 PM, Marica Tan wrote:
> I would like to add another thing that I want to get fixed in 1.4.
>
> It's been a pain deleting a schedule, build definition and sometimes a
> project all because of the build result.
>
> I cannot delete a schedule because there are build definitions that were not
> deleted because of the build result.
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-2403
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1626
>
> When I delete a project, I sometimes get a foreign key constraint error. I
> don't know if it's related to this though.
>
> Maybe we need to have a model change and instead of having a build
> definition object in the build result, just add the fields needed from the
> build definition in the build result such as the goals, build file,
> arguments etc...
>
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Marica
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 20/01/2010, at 9:56 AM, Marica Tan wrote:
>>>
>>>> For 1.4, I would like to focus more on fixing bugs related to
>> distributed
>>>> builds.
>>>>
>>>> For 1.5, I would like to see continuum-core refactored. It's all
>> tangled
>>> up
>>>> so it's hard to make any changes without breaking stuff.
>>>> I once tried to move the mail notifier out of the core but ended up not
>>>> being able to do so.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the earlier
>>> wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
>>> - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
>>> - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for
>> distributed
>>> build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work
>> might
>>> be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with the
>>> added features it already has
>>> - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for what
>> is
>>> needed in 1.5 soon
>>>
>>> Is that a fair assessment?
>>>
>>
>> OK for me
>>
>> Emmanuel
>>
>>>
>>> - Brett
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brett Porter
>>> brett@apache.org
>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
Re: roadmap for 1.4?
Posted by Marica Tan <ma...@gmail.com>.
I would like to add another thing that I want to get fixed in 1.4.
It's been a pain deleting a schedule, build definition and sometimes a
project all because of the build result.
I cannot delete a schedule because there are build definitions that were not
deleted because of the build result.
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-2403
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1626
When I delete a project, I sometimes get a foreign key constraint error. I
don't know if it's related to this though.
Maybe we need to have a model change and instead of having a build
definition object in the build result, just add the fields needed from the
build definition in the build result such as the goals, build file,
arguments etc...
Thanks,
--
Marica
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 20/01/2010, at 9:56 AM, Marica Tan wrote:
> >
> > > For 1.4, I would like to focus more on fixing bugs related to
> distributed
> > > builds.
> > >
> > > For 1.5, I would like to see continuum-core refactored. It's all
> tangled
> > up
> > > so it's hard to make any changes without breaking stuff.
> > > I once tried to move the mail notifier out of the core but ended up not
> > > being able to do so.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the earlier
> > wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
> > - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
> > - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for
> distributed
> > build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work
> might
> > be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with the
> > added features it already has
> > - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for what
> is
> > needed in 1.5 soon
> >
> > Is that a fair assessment?
> >
>
> OK for me
>
> Emmanuel
>
> >
> > - Brett
> >
> > --
> > Brett Porter
> > brett@apache.org
> > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: roadmap for 1.4?
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Brett, it looks good.
For 2.0, I'd like to remove the DB and replace it with xml files but we'll
can discuss about it later.
Emmanuel
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've updated the wiki to reflect this discussion:
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUM/Continuum+Roadmap
>
> I guess the version number of the next release is still up for discussion
> depending on how we progress with architecture changes, as we want to keep
> up frequent releases. I left the 2.0 that was on the wiki instead of the 1.5
> we used below.
>
> - Brett
>
> On 25/01/2010, at 8:06 PM, Emmanuel Venisse wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 20/01/2010, at 9:56 AM, Marica Tan wrote:
> >>
> >>> For 1.4, I would like to focus more on fixing bugs related to
> distributed
> >>> builds.
> >>>
> >>> For 1.5, I would like to see continuum-core refactored. It's all
> tangled
> >> up
> >>> so it's hard to make any changes without breaking stuff.
> >>> I once tried to move the mail notifier out of the core but ended up not
> >>> being able to do so.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the earlier
> >> wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
> >> - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
> >> - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for
> distributed
> >> build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work
> might
> >> be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with
> the
> >> added features it already has
> >> - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for what
> is
> >> needed in 1.5 soon
> >>
> >> Is that a fair assessment?
> >>
> >
> > OK for me
> >
> > Emmanuel
> >
> >>
> >> - Brett
> >>
> >> --
> >> Brett Porter
> >> brett@apache.org
> >> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>
>
>
>
>
Re: roadmap for 1.4?
Posted by Deng Ching <oc...@apache.org>.
Looks good, thanks Brett!
-Deng
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've updated the wiki to reflect this discussion:
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUM/Continuum+Roadmap
>
> I guess the version number of the next release is still up for discussion
> depending on how we progress with architecture changes, as we want to keep
> up frequent releases. I left the 2.0 that was on the wiki instead of the 1.5
> we used below.
>
> - Brett
>
> On 25/01/2010, at 8:06 PM, Emmanuel Venisse wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 20/01/2010, at 9:56 AM, Marica Tan wrote:
> >>
> >>> For 1.4, I would like to focus more on fixing bugs related to
> distributed
> >>> builds.
> >>>
> >>> For 1.5, I would like to see continuum-core refactored. It's all
> tangled
> >> up
> >>> so it's hard to make any changes without breaking stuff.
> >>> I once tried to move the mail notifier out of the core but ended up not
> >>> being able to do so.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the earlier
> >> wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
> >> - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
> >> - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for
> distributed
> >> build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work
> might
> >> be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with
> the
> >> added features it already has
> >> - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for what
> is
> >> needed in 1.5 soon
> >>
> >> Is that a fair assessment?
> >>
> >
> > OK for me
> >
> > Emmanuel
> >
> >>
> >> - Brett
> >>
> >> --
> >> Brett Porter
> >> brett@apache.org
> >> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>
>
>
>
>
Re: roadmap for 1.4?
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
I've updated the wiki to reflect this discussion:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUM/Continuum+Roadmap
I guess the version number of the next release is still up for discussion depending on how we progress with architecture changes, as we want to keep up frequent releases. I left the 2.0 that was on the wiki instead of the 1.5 we used below.
- Brett
On 25/01/2010, at 8:06 PM, Emmanuel Venisse wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 20/01/2010, at 9:56 AM, Marica Tan wrote:
>>
>>> For 1.4, I would like to focus more on fixing bugs related to distributed
>>> builds.
>>>
>>> For 1.5, I would like to see continuum-core refactored. It's all tangled
>> up
>>> so it's hard to make any changes without breaking stuff.
>>> I once tried to move the mail notifier out of the core but ended up not
>>> being able to do so.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the earlier
>> wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
>> - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
>> - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for distributed
>> build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work might
>> be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with the
>> added features it already has
>> - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for what is
>> needed in 1.5 soon
>>
>> Is that a fair assessment?
>>
>
> OK for me
>
> Emmanuel
>
>>
>> - Brett
>>
>> --
>> Brett Porter
>> brett@apache.org
>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
Re: continuum 1.3 GA
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 18/02/2010, at 11:13 PM, Jevica Arianne B. Zurbano wrote:
> Can we also add CONTINUUM-2467 (Selenium test: check for project group SCM update when building projects) for 1.3 GA?
IMO, if it's causing the 1.3 tests to fail or you already have a fix that makes sense, but otherwise I'd just leave it to 1.4.
I put it in 1.4 for now, since I regularly go through the unscheduled issues and make sure they have enough info then put them in the backlog(s). IF the developers are creating issues themselves, I'd encourage setting the fix version at the time.
- Brett
>
>
> Emmanuel Venisse wrote:
>> +1 for these issues.
>>
>> Emmanuel
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Marica Tan <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'd like to add CONTINUUM-2406 and CONTINUUM-2466.
>>>
>>> These are quicks fixes and IMO should be fixed in 1.3 GA
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Marica
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> We previously talked about the following roadmap:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the
>>>>>>
>>> earlier
>>>
>>>>>> wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
>>>>>> - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
>>>>>> - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for
>>>>>>
>>>> distributed
>>>>
>>>>>> build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work
>>>>>>
>>>> might
>>>>
>>>>>> be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with
>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>> added features it already has
>>>>>> - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for
>>>>>>
>>> what
>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>>> needed in 1.5 soon
>>>>>>
>>>> Is the 4 issues in the 1.3.6 bucket the only issues folks consider
>>>> necessary for a 1.3 GA?
>>>>
>>>> - Brett
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Brett Porter
>>>> brett@apache.org
>>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jev
>
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
Re: continuum 1.3 GA
Posted by "Jevica Arianne B. Zurbano" <je...@gmail.com>.
Can we also add CONTINUUM-2467 (Selenium test: check for project group
SCM update when building projects) for 1.3 GA?
Emmanuel Venisse wrote:
> +1 for these issues.
>
> Emmanuel
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Marica Tan <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> I'd like to add CONTINUUM-2406 and CONTINUUM-2466.
>>
>> These are quicks fixes and IMO should be fixed in 1.3 GA
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Marica
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> We previously talked about the following roadmap:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the
>>>>>
>> earlier
>>
>>>>> wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
>>>>> - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
>>>>> - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for
>>>>>
>>> distributed
>>>
>>>>> build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work
>>>>>
>>> might
>>>
>>>>> be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with
>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>> added features it already has
>>>>> - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for
>>>>>
>> what
>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>>> needed in 1.5 soon
>>>>>
>>> Is the 4 issues in the 1.3.6 bucket the only issues folks consider
>>> necessary for a 1.3 GA?
>>>
>>> - Brett
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brett Porter
>>> brett@apache.org
>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
--
Thanks,
Jev
Re: continuum 1.3 GA (was: roadmap for 1.4?)
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>.
+1 for these issues.
Emmanuel
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Marica Tan <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to add CONTINUUM-2406 and CONTINUUM-2466.
>
> These are quicks fixes and IMO should be fixed in 1.3 GA
>
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Marica
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > We previously talked about the following roadmap:
> >
> >
> > >> Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the
> earlier
> > >> wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
> > >> - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
> > >> - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for
> > distributed
> > >> build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work
> > might
> > >> be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with
> > the
> > >> added features it already has
> > >> - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for
> what
> > is
> > >> needed in 1.5 soon
> >
> > Is the 4 issues in the 1.3.6 bucket the only issues folks consider
> > necessary for a 1.3 GA?
> >
> > - Brett
> >
> > --
> > Brett Porter
> > brett@apache.org
> > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: continuum 1.3 GA (was: roadmap for 1.4?)
Posted by Marica Tan <ma...@gmail.com>.
I'd like to add CONTINUUM-2406 and CONTINUUM-2466.
These are quicks fixes and IMO should be fixed in 1.3 GA
Thanks,
--
Marica
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> We previously talked about the following roadmap:
>
>
> >> Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the earlier
> >> wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
> >> - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
> >> - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for
> distributed
> >> build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work
> might
> >> be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with
> the
> >> added features it already has
> >> - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for what
> is
> >> needed in 1.5 soon
>
> Is the 4 issues in the 1.3.6 bucket the only issues folks consider
> necessary for a 1.3 GA?
>
> - Brett
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>
>
>
>
>
Re: continuum 1.3 GA (was: roadmap for 1.4?)
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
We previously talked about the following roadmap:
>> Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the earlier
>> wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
>> - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
>> - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for distributed
>> build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work might
>> be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with the
>> added features it already has
>> - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for what is
>> needed in 1.5 soon
Is the 4 issues in the 1.3.6 bucket the only issues folks consider necessary for a 1.3 GA?
- Brett
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
Re: roadmap for 1.4?
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 20/01/2010, at 9:56 AM, Marica Tan wrote:
>
> > For 1.4, I would like to focus more on fixing bugs related to distributed
> > builds.
> >
> > For 1.5, I would like to see continuum-core refactored. It's all tangled
> up
> > so it's hard to make any changes without breaking stuff.
> > I once tried to move the mail notifier out of the core but ended up not
> > being able to do so.
> >
>
>
> Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the earlier
> wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
> - get 1.3 to GA ASAP
> - select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for distributed
> build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work might
> be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with the
> added features it already has
> - with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for what is
> needed in 1.5 soon
>
> Is that a fair assessment?
>
OK for me
Emmanuel
>
> - Brett
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>
>
>
>
>
Re: roadmap for 1.4?
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 20/01/2010, at 9:56 AM, Marica Tan wrote:
> For 1.4, I would like to focus more on fixing bugs related to distributed
> builds.
>
> For 1.5, I would like to see continuum-core refactored. It's all tangled up
> so it's hard to make any changes without breaking stuff.
> I once tried to move the mail notifier out of the core but ended up not
> being able to do so.
>
Ok, based on this and the comments from Deng and Wendy (and the earlier wish list from Emmanuel), I'd say it's:
- get 1.3 to GA ASAP
- select a very small number of fixes for 1.4 (particularly for distributed build, but also usability issues that are fixable without major work might be considered), so we can release that in a reasonable timeframe with the added features it already has
- with 1.3 out and the 1.4 roadmap locked down, start planning for what is needed in 1.5 soon
Is that a fair assessment?
- Brett
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
Re: roadmap for 1.4?
Posted by Marica Tan <ma...@gmail.com>.
For 1.4, I would like to focus more on fixing bugs related to distributed
builds.
For 1.5, I would like to see continuum-core refactored. It's all tangled up
so it's hard to make any changes without breaking stuff.
I once tried to move the mail notifier out of the core but ended up not
being able to do so.
Thanks,
--
Marica
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Deng Ching <oc...@apache.org> wrote:
> For 1.4, I'd also like to improve on the performance when using distributed
> builds with LDAP. It is currently taking a while to build and release
> projects using this set up.
>
> Thanks,
> Deng
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > For mine, I'd like the 1.4 series to just focus on frequent problems
> and
> > usability issues, such as those that Sebb has been so diligently raising
> > recently.
> > >
> > > Concurrently, like Emmanuel, I'd like to start talking about some
> > architectural changes for releases beyond 1.5.
> >
> > Not that I'll stand in the way of people who want to fix stuff, but
> > personally I'm unsure whether fixing the usability issues is worth it
> > without the architectural changes.
> >
> > At least, it seems to me that the big problems I run into are caused
> > by things that are going to require a change in the data model -- the
> > way historical build results are not immutable, and the complicated
> > way that parallel builds require you to attach queues to a schedule.
> >
> > The Continuum code is not easy to work with, and that's an indicator
> > of technical debt that needs to be paid back. An example here is...
> > I'd really like to change the notification email template, but the
> > email notifier is baked into the core. The other notifiers were
> > separated, so there must be some reason this one wasn't.
> >
> > --
> > Wendy
> >
>
Re: roadmap for 1.4?
Posted by Deng Ching <oc...@apache.org>.
For 1.4, I'd also like to improve on the performance when using distributed
builds with LDAP. It is currently taking a while to build and release
projects using this set up.
Thanks,
Deng
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > For mine, I'd like the 1.4 series to just focus on frequent problems and
> usability issues, such as those that Sebb has been so diligently raising
> recently.
> >
> > Concurrently, like Emmanuel, I'd like to start talking about some
> architectural changes for releases beyond 1.5.
>
> Not that I'll stand in the way of people who want to fix stuff, but
> personally I'm unsure whether fixing the usability issues is worth it
> without the architectural changes.
>
> At least, it seems to me that the big problems I run into are caused
> by things that are going to require a change in the data model -- the
> way historical build results are not immutable, and the complicated
> way that parallel builds require you to attach queues to a schedule.
>
> The Continuum code is not easy to work with, and that's an indicator
> of technical debt that needs to be paid back. An example here is...
> I'd really like to change the notification email template, but the
> email notifier is baked into the core. The other notifiers were
> separated, so there must be some reason this one wasn't.
>
> --
> Wendy
>
Re: roadmap for 1.4?
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> For mine, I'd like the 1.4 series to just focus on frequent problems and usability issues, such as those that Sebb has been so diligently raising recently.
>
> Concurrently, like Emmanuel, I'd like to start talking about some architectural changes for releases beyond 1.5.
Not that I'll stand in the way of people who want to fix stuff, but
personally I'm unsure whether fixing the usability issues is worth it
without the architectural changes.
At least, it seems to me that the big problems I run into are caused
by things that are going to require a change in the data model -- the
way historical build results are not immutable, and the complicated
way that parallel builds require you to attach queues to a schedule.
The Continuum code is not easy to work with, and that's an indicator
of technical debt that needs to be paid back. An example here is...
I'd really like to change the notification email template, but the
email notifier is baked into the core. The other notifiers were
separated, so there must be some reason this one wasn't.
--
Wendy