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Posted to users@directory.apache.org by Jordi Pujol <jo...@gmail.com> on 2009/05/03 08:03:37 UTC
distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Hi, all!
My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings that use Windows email clients...
But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of contacts in the LDAP side...
As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames and groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is deprecated....
If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client, but obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we you call from email clients with their cn=emailList return a "contact" with mail attribute build in with the list of mail members......
Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone knows if this idea is useful and can work?
Thanks to all!
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Jordi Pujol <jo...@gmail.com>.
It's only a read attribute from the client...
But it must be updated when a member is added or removed of the group....
Regards.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <im...@gameaccount.com>
To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
> You could perhaps use a custom Interceptor for that. This is a read only
> attribute is it not? Care to provide a few examples of what you need
> done?
>
> On 3 May 2009, at 09:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, perhaps this is a solution, but it doesn't work if you don't have
>> an automatic manner to fill the mail 'attribute' with the list of
>> mail attributes of the members of the group (with a semicolon between
>> every address....)
>>
>> Regards!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis"
>> <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>> >
>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>
>>
>>> You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes you
>>> need :-)
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, all!
>>>> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache
>>>> Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows
>>>> Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
>>>> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings that
>>>> use Windows email clients...
>>>>
>>>> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of contacts in
>>>> the LDAP side...
>>>>
>>>> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames and
>>>> groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
>>>> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
>>>> deprecated....
>>>>
>>>> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client, but
>>>> obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>>>>
>>>> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>>>>
>>>> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we you
>>>> call from email clients with their cn=emailList return a "contact"
>>>> with mail attribute build in with the list of mail members......
>>>>
>>>> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone
>>>> knows if this idea is useful and can work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all!
>>
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Jordi Pujol <jo...@gmail.com>.
Finally, I decide that is impossible...
I try to update manually the mail attribute from "Windows Mail"....
The mail returned value is formated like these: "userlist <user1@domain.com;
user2@domain.com; .....>" ....
And this doesn't work...
If I have several mail attributes, it only gets the first....
Conclusion:
1.- I'm going to use the classical groupOfNames....
2.- Make a batch that reads the member of the group, and store the mail
attributes in the file of a mail distribuition list with the name of the
group....
3.- In windows mail (or other), when i read the mail attribute this gets
nameofgroup@mydomain....
That's all!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <im...@gameaccount.com>
To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
> You could perhaps use a custom Interceptor for that. This is a read only
> attribute is it not? Care to provide a few examples of what you need
> done?
>
> On 3 May 2009, at 09:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, perhaps this is a solution, but it doesn't work if you don't have
>> an automatic manner to fill the mail 'attribute' with the list of
>> mail attributes of the members of the group (with a semicolon between
>> every address....)
>>
>> Regards!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis"
>> <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>> >
>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>
>>
>>> You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes you
>>> need :-)
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, all!
>>>> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache
>>>> Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows
>>>> Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
>>>> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings that
>>>> use Windows email clients...
>>>>
>>>> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of contacts in
>>>> the LDAP side...
>>>>
>>>> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames and
>>>> groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
>>>> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
>>>> deprecated....
>>>>
>>>> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client, but
>>>> obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>>>>
>>>> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>>>>
>>>> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we you
>>>> call from email clients with their cn=emailList return a "contact"
>>>> with mail attribute build in with the list of mail members......
>>>>
>>>> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone
>>>> knows if this idea is useful and can work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all!
>>
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Jordi Pujol <jo...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Ioannis.
Finally i find a workaround to acomplish my objective.
What i want to do is to implement all my addressbook of contacts in LDAP.
The addressbook in Outlook, Windows Mail, etc... has two kind of contacts:
contacts and groupOfContacts.
The first it's easy to do. Just look what are the mapping between the
contact fields and ldap attributes....
The problem is in the group of contacts.
The group of contacts in several email windows clients is an xml with
references to another contacts, that the email client translate in sending
time into list of addresses.
I try to implement a groupOfNamesEmail that has the list of mail members in
mail attribute.
But doing the tests, i see that this never works.
Why?
Because Windows Mail, Windows Mail Live Mail, Outlook Express, etc....,
builds the mail field with this : "cn <mail>".....
If you put this in mail ldap attribute :
user1@mydomain.com,user2@mydomain.com,user3@mydomain.com, ...., you obtain
in email client program this "cn
<user1@mydomain.com,user2@mydomain.com,user3@mydomain.com", and it never
works because it's an invalid email address....
Perhaps, if i use ActiveDirectory or ExchangeServer, this is well
implemented, and easy to do....
But i found a little more easy solution:
Start o ldap attribute with a classifing string like this: "clients:
enterprise name", or "provider: enterprise name"....
Doing this i can do searchs putting only "client" or "provider" in the field
"Organization" in Windows Live Mail, and select the resulting list, and so
on.....
Easy and with no headaches....
Thanks to all for the support!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <im...@gameaccount.com>
To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
> Hi Jordi,
> Do you want to send the list a detailed example(ldiff etc) we might be
> able to help you a bit further
>
> On 3 May 2009, at 19:57, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, it's impossible.....
>>
>> Argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> I haven't access to the email distribution list....
>>
>> In conclusion:
>> It's impossible...
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis"
>> <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>> >
>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jordi,
>>> Well done! An interceptor is what you need for this IMHO. simply
>>> implement the relevant add delete and modify methods and update your
>>> attribute. I would point you to the source code for he interceptors ,
>>> especially the tests. I'm not that bright sometimes ;-) but the
>>> examples contained helped me write a very simple replication mechanism
>>> for embedded ApacheDS :-)
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2009, at 18:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Finally I added a new objectClass, that is identical at groupOfNames
>>>> but it has the mail attribute.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone knows how I can update the email attribute with the mail
>>>> attributes of the members added?
>>>> Also when one is deleted, the attribute mail only haves the list of
>>>> mail of the remained members.....
>>>>
>>>> Any idea?
>>>>
>>>> I just search in the help about Interceptors, but the documentation
>>>> is poor....
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis"
>>>> <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>>>> >
>>>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:17 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You could perhaps use a custom Interceptor for that. This is a read
>>>>> only attribute is it not? Care to provide a few examples of what you
>>>>> need done?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 May 2009, at 09:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jordi.pujol.ulied@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, perhaps this is a solution, but it doesn't work if you don't
>>>>>> have an automatic manner to fill the mail 'attribute' with the list
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> mail attributes of the members of the group (with a semicolon
>>>>>> between every address....)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis"
>>>>>> <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>>>>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:50 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes you
>>>>>>> need :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol" <jordi.pujol.ulied@gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, all!
>>>>>>>> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache
>>>>>>>> Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows
>>>>>>>> Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
>>>>>>>> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings
>>>>>>>> that use Windows email clients...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of contacts
>>>>>>>> in the LDAP side...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames and
>>>>>>>> groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
>>>>>>>> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
>>>>>>>> deprecated....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client,
>>>>>>>> but obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we
>>>>>>>> you call from email clients with their cn=emailList return a
>>>>>>>> "contact" with mail attribute build in with the list of mail
>>>>>>>> members......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone
>>>>>>>> knows if this idea is useful and can work?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to all!
>>
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Ioannis Mavroukakis <im...@gameaccount.com>.
Hi Jordi,
Do you want to send the list a detailed example(ldiff etc) we might be
able to help you a bit further
On 3 May 2009, at 19:57, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Well, it's impossible.....
>
> Argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I haven't access to the email distribution list....
>
> In conclusion:
> It's impossible...
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
> >
> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:16 PM
> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>
>
>> Hi Jordi,
>> Well done! An interceptor is what you need for this IMHO. simply
>> implement the relevant add delete and modify methods and update
>> your attribute. I would point you to the source code for he
>> interceptors , especially the tests. I'm not that bright
>> sometimes ;-) but the examples contained helped me write a very
>> simple replication mechanism for embedded ApacheDS :-)
>>
>> On 3 May 2009, at 18:53, "Jordi Pujol"
>> <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>> Finally I added a new objectClass, that is identical at
>>> groupOfNames but it has the mail attribute.
>>>
>>> Anyone knows how I can update the email attribute with the mail
>>> attributes of the members added?
>>> Also when one is deleted, the attribute mail only haves the list
>>> of mail of the remained members.....
>>>
>>> Any idea?
>>>
>>> I just search in the help about Interceptors, but the
>>> documentation is poor....
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>>> >
>>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>>
>>>
>>>> You could perhaps use a custom Interceptor for that. This is a
>>>> read only attribute is it not? Care to provide a few examples of
>>>> what you need done?
>>>>
>>>> On 3 May 2009, at 09:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jordi.pujol.ulied@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, perhaps this is a solution, but it doesn't work if you
>>>>> don't have an automatic manner to fill the mail 'attribute' with
>>>>> the list of
>>>>> mail attributes of the members of the group (with a semicolon
>>>>> between every address....)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards!
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>>>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:50 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes
>>>>>> you need :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol" <jordi.pujol.ulied@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, all!
>>>>>>> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in
>>>>>>> Apache Directory Server to work with several email clients
>>>>>>> like Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
>>>>>>> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the
>>>>>>> mappings that use Windows email clients...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of
>>>>>>> contacts in the LDAP side...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames
>>>>>>> and groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
>>>>>>> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
>>>>>>> deprecated....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email
>>>>>>> client, but obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that
>>>>>>> we you call from email clients with their cn=emailList
>>>>>>> return a "contact" with mail attribute build in with the
>>>>>>> list of mail members......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc....
>>>>>>> anyone knows if this idea is useful and can work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all!
>
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Jordi Pujol <jo...@gmail.com>.
Well, it's impossible.....
Argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I haven't access to the email distribution list....
In conclusion:
It's impossible...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <im...@gameaccount.com>
To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
> Hi Jordi,
> Well done! An interceptor is what you need for this IMHO. simply
> implement the relevant add delete and modify methods and update your
> attribute. I would point you to the source code for he interceptors ,
> especially the tests. I'm not that bright sometimes ;-) but the examples
> contained helped me write a very simple replication mechanism for
> embedded ApacheDS :-)
>
> On 3 May 2009, at 18:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>> Finally I added a new objectClass, that is identical at groupOfNames but
>> it has the mail attribute.
>>
>> Anyone knows how I can update the email attribute with the mail
>> attributes of the members added?
>> Also when one is deleted, the attribute mail only haves the list of mail
>> of the remained members.....
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>> I just search in the help about Interceptors, but the documentation is
>> poor....
>>
>> Thanks!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis"
>> <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>> >
>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>
>>
>>> You could perhaps use a custom Interceptor for that. This is a read
>>> only attribute is it not? Care to provide a few examples of what you
>>> need done?
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2009, at 09:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, perhaps this is a solution, but it doesn't work if you don't
>>>> have an automatic manner to fill the mail 'attribute' with the list of
>>>> mail attributes of the members of the group (with a semicolon between
>>>> every address....)
>>>>
>>>> Regards!
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis"
>>>> <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>>>> >
>>>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes you
>>>>> need :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol" <jordi.pujol.ulied@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, all!
>>>>>> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache
>>>>>> Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows
>>>>>> Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
>>>>>> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings that
>>>>>> use Windows email clients...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of contacts
>>>>>> in the LDAP side...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames and
>>>>>> groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
>>>>>> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
>>>>>> deprecated....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client, but
>>>>>> obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we you
>>>>>> call from email clients with their cn=emailList return a "contact"
>>>>>> with mail attribute build in with the list of mail members......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone
>>>>>> knows if this idea is useful and can work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all!
>>
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Jordi Pujol <jo...@gmail.com>.
Thanks, Ioannis!
But ever if i can build the interceptor, the finally mail attribute value,
doesn't work with email client (windows live mail, windows mail, etc...) as
I explained in my last post....
mail for Windows Mail, must be an unique address that finally is composed
with the cn <mail attribute value> ..... (like these users
users@domain.com)....
I know that the most perfect solution is know the exactly attribute that is
used in ActiveDirectory to acomplish that funcionality..... but i thing that
i'm more fast if i build a java batch command to do that....
Regards!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <im...@gameaccount.com>
To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
> Hi Jordi,
> Well done! An interceptor is what you need for this IMHO. simply
> implement the relevant add delete and modify methods and update your
> attribute. I would point you to the source code for he interceptors ,
> especially the tests. I'm not that bright sometimes ;-) but the examples
> contained helped me write a very simple replication mechanism for
> embedded ApacheDS :-)
>
> On 3 May 2009, at 18:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>> Finally I added a new objectClass, that is identical at groupOfNames but
>> it has the mail attribute.
>>
>> Anyone knows how I can update the email attribute with the mail
>> attributes of the members added?
>> Also when one is deleted, the attribute mail only haves the list of mail
>> of the remained members.....
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>> I just search in the help about Interceptors, but the documentation is
>> poor....
>>
>> Thanks!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis"
>> <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>> >
>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>
>>
>>> You could perhaps use a custom Interceptor for that. This is a read
>>> only attribute is it not? Care to provide a few examples of what you
>>> need done?
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2009, at 09:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, perhaps this is a solution, but it doesn't work if you don't
>>>> have an automatic manner to fill the mail 'attribute' with the list of
>>>> mail attributes of the members of the group (with a semicolon between
>>>> every address....)
>>>>
>>>> Regards!
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis"
>>>> <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>>>> >
>>>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes you
>>>>> need :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol" <jordi.pujol.ulied@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, all!
>>>>>> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache
>>>>>> Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows
>>>>>> Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
>>>>>> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings that
>>>>>> use Windows email clients...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of contacts
>>>>>> in the LDAP side...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames and
>>>>>> groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
>>>>>> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
>>>>>> deprecated....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client, but
>>>>>> obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we you
>>>>>> call from email clients with their cn=emailList return a "contact"
>>>>>> with mail attribute build in with the list of mail members......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone
>>>>>> knows if this idea is useful and can work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all!
>>
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Ioannis Mavroukakis <im...@gameaccount.com>.
Hi Jordi,
Well done! An interceptor is what you need for this IMHO. simply
implement the relevant add delete and modify methods and update your
attribute. I would point you to the source code for he interceptors ,
especially the tests. I'm not that bright sometimes ;-) but the
examples contained helped me write a very simple replication mechanism
for embedded ApacheDS :-)
On 3 May 2009, at 18:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi!
> Finally I added a new objectClass, that is identical at groupOfNames
> but it has the mail attribute.
>
> Anyone knows how I can update the email attribute with the mail
> attributes of the members added?
> Also when one is deleted, the attribute mail only haves the list of
> mail of the remained members.....
>
> Any idea?
>
> I just search in the help about Interceptors, but the documentation
> is poor....
>
> Thanks!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
> >
> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>
>
>> You could perhaps use a custom Interceptor for that. This is a
>> read only attribute is it not? Care to provide a few examples of
>> what you need done?
>>
>> On 3 May 2009, at 09:53, "Jordi Pujol"
>> <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, perhaps this is a solution, but it doesn't work if you don't
>>> have an automatic manner to fill the mail 'attribute' with the
>>> list of
>>> mail attributes of the members of the group (with a semicolon
>>> between every address....)
>>>
>>> Regards!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>>> >
>>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>>
>>>
>>>> You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes
>>>> you need :-)
>>>>
>>>> On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol" <jordi.pujol.ulied@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, all!
>>>>> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache
>>>>> Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows
>>>>> Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
>>>>> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings
>>>>> that use Windows email clients...
>>>>>
>>>>> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of
>>>>> contacts in the LDAP side...
>>>>>
>>>>> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames
>>>>> and groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
>>>>> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
>>>>> deprecated....
>>>>>
>>>>> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client,
>>>>> but obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>>>>>
>>>>> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we
>>>>> you call from email clients with their cn=emailList return a
>>>>> "contact" with mail attribute build in with the list of mail
>>>>> members......
>>>>>
>>>>> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone
>>>>> knows if this idea is useful and can work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to all!
>
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Jordi Pujol <jo...@gmail.com>.
Hi!
Finally I added a new objectClass, that is identical at groupOfNames but it
has the mail attribute.
Anyone knows how I can update the email attribute with the mail attributes
of the members added?
Also when one is deleted, the attribute mail only haves the list of mail of
the remained members.....
Any idea?
I just search in the help about Interceptors, but the documentation is
poor....
Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <im...@gameaccount.com>
To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
> You could perhaps use a custom Interceptor for that. This is a read only
> attribute is it not? Care to provide a few examples of what you need
> done?
>
> On 3 May 2009, at 09:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, perhaps this is a solution, but it doesn't work if you don't have
>> an automatic manner to fill the mail 'attribute' with the list of
>> mail attributes of the members of the group (with a semicolon between
>> every address....)
>>
>> Regards!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis"
>> <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
>> >
>> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>>
>>
>>> You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes you
>>> need :-)
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, all!
>>>> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache
>>>> Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows
>>>> Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
>>>> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings that
>>>> use Windows email clients...
>>>>
>>>> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of contacts in
>>>> the LDAP side...
>>>>
>>>> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames and
>>>> groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
>>>> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
>>>> deprecated....
>>>>
>>>> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client, but
>>>> obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>>>>
>>>> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>>>>
>>>> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we you
>>>> call from email clients with their cn=emailList return a "contact"
>>>> with mail attribute build in with the list of mail members......
>>>>
>>>> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone
>>>> knows if this idea is useful and can work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all!
>>
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Ioannis Mavroukakis <im...@gameaccount.com>.
You could perhaps use a custom Interceptor for that. This is a read
only attribute is it not? Care to provide a few examples of what you
need done?
On 3 May 2009, at 09:53, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yes, perhaps this is a solution, but it doesn't work if you don't
> have an automatic manner to fill the mail 'attribute' with the list of
> mail attributes of the members of the group (with a semicolon
> between every address....)
>
> Regards!
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <imavroukakis@gameaccount.com
> >
> To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
> Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
>
>
>> You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes you
>> need :-)
>>
>> On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol"
>> <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, all!
>>> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache
>>> Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows
>>> Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
>>> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings
>>> that use Windows email clients...
>>>
>>> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of contacts
>>> in the LDAP side...
>>>
>>> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames and
>>> groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
>>> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
>>> deprecated....
>>>
>>> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client, but
>>> obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>>>
>>> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>>>
>>> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we
>>> you call from email clients with their cn=emailList return a
>>> "contact" with mail attribute build in with the list of mail
>>> members......
>>>
>>> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone
>>> knows if this idea is useful and can work?
>>>
>>> Thanks to all!
>
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Jordi Pujol <jo...@gmail.com>.
Yes, perhaps this is a solution, but it doesn't work if you don't have an
automatic manner to fill the mail 'attribute' with the list of
mail attributes of the members of the group (with a semicolon between every
address....)
Regards!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ioannis Mavroukakis" <im...@gameaccount.com>
To: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Cc: <us...@directory.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
> You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes you need
> :-)
>
> On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, all!
>> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache
>> Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows Mail,
>> Windows Live Mail, etc...
>> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings that use
>> Windows email clients...
>>
>> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of contacts in the
>> LDAP side...
>>
>> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames and
>> groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
>> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
>> deprecated....
>>
>> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client, but
>> obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>>
>> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>>
>> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we you call
>> from email clients with their cn=emailList return a "contact" with mail
>> attribute build in with the list of mail members......
>>
>> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone knows
>> if this idea is useful and can work?
>>
>> Thanks to all!
Re: distribution list, group of Contacts and groupOfNames
Posted by Ioannis Mavroukakis <im...@gameaccount.com>.
You could provide a schema extension and define the attributes you
need :-)
On 3 May 2009, at 07:03, "Jordi Pujol" <jo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi, all!
> My names is Jordi and i'm implementing an addressbook in Apache
> Directory Server to work with several email clients like Windows
> Mail, Windows Live Mail, etc...
> This work well with normal contacts, if you know the mappings that
> use Windows email clients...
>
> But the problem comes when i try to emulate the group of contacts in
> the LDAP side...
>
> As you know there are two group classes in LDAP, groupOfNames and
> groupOfUniqueNames, but they hasn't the mail attribute....
> In past, there was the rfc822mailmember but it seems that is
> deprecated....
>
> If i build the groupOfNames, i can find from the email client, but
> obviously, doesn't have the mail attribute.....
>
> My question, there is any solution to acomplish that?
>
> I think that perhap a solution is to build a procedure that we you
> call from email clients with their cn=emailList return a "contact"
> with mail attribute build in with the list of mail members......
>
> Before start to study how to do that, program it, etc.... anyone
> knows if this idea is useful and can work?
>
> Thanks to all!