[Fwd: Hats and Ethics]

["William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>]

I posted the following observations to members@, and heard no negative
feedback.  I'd like to begin a dialog about what such a statement of
ethics should contain.

Unfortunately, it's been pointed out that noise on general@i.a.o can
be very confusing to new participants; when you see every point in the
evolution of a policy, but focus on a earlier 'revision', it's easy to
lose the end result of the dialog.

Eric pointed out this 'topic' generally belongs to incubator's charter
at the moment, but I'd suggest we conduct a dialog on community@ (which
is open to all members/committers and is archived) to come to a conclusion
on an ethics statement...

but I need a vote from the incubator committee that such a statement is
really needed to help guide new committers, and seasoned committers.
Can I hear i.a.o's vote to begin an i.o.a dialog on committers and bring
back a finished draft to this list?

Mine is +1, obviously.

Bill

Re: [Fwd: Hats and Ethics]

["William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>]

William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Leo Simons wrote:
>> I refuse to vote on whether an appropriate discussion is appropriate enough.
> 
> ... I think that discussion would be good and am asking that incubator would
> sponsor the discussion on community@.  It's a sort of twisted but entirely
> appropriate relationship, so just asking for objections before I begin.

Most important, I'm inviting anyone interested who's not -yet- subscribed
to community to participate, if my suggestion's acceptable to the incubator
community.  Sorry - forgot that point.

Bill

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Re: [Fwd: Hats and Ethics]

["William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>]

Leo Simons wrote:
> 
> I refuse to vote on whether an appropriate discussion is appropriate enough.

I'm asking for permission to have a dialog on community.  Sure, I could write
the thing and finish it; heck, could send that on to board and ask for a
resolution that it's ASF-wide policy.

But I think that discussion would be good and am asking that incubator would
sponsor the discussion on community@.  It's a sort of twisted but entirely
appropriate relationship, so just asking for objections before I begin.

Feel free to ignore till a finished draft document comes back here :)


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Re: [Fwd: Hats and Ethics]

[Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com>]

On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:28:49PM -0700, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> but I need a vote from the incubator committee that such a statement is
> really needed to help guide new committers, and seasoned committers.
> Can I hear i.a.o's vote to begin an i.o.a dialog on committers and bring
> back a finished draft to this list?

I refuse to vote on whether an appropriate discussion is appropriate
enough. Just do the work, and someone will complain if there is some
kind of problem. Take a look at how Robert's been handling his documentation
work wrt feedback and use it as an example.

LSD

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