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Posted to user@cayenne.apache.org by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> on 2007/02/01 14:55:28 UTC
[ANN] New Web Site
As some may have noticed already, Cayenne website just moved, got a
serious facelift, and started to use Confluence as a CMS in the backend:
http://cayenne.apache.org/
http://cayenne.apache.org/2007/02/01/new-web-site.html
Thanks to Bruce and Ari for all the work they've put into it! Looks
really nice :-)
We'll continue improving the content (like linking of subchapters in
the docs), the looks (color-coding of different versions of
documentation), and will list the site on www.apache.org shortly.
Andrus
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Michael Gentry <bl...@gmail.com>.
I tend to use Safari or OmniWeb (which uses the same rendering engine)
and I'm still on 10.4.8. I did do a Command-+ to make the fonts
bigger, but just thought I'd mention it if there was a quick and easy
fix.
Thanks!
/dev/mrg
On 2/5/07, Aristedes Maniatis <ar...@ish.com.au> wrote:
>
> On 06/02/2007, at 2:01 AM, Michael Gentry wrote:
>
> > Ari/Bruce: Quick font question about the new web site. Is there
> > anyone the pre-formatted text can be made larger? Maybe it is a
> > Mac-only issue, but the pre-formatted text, like on this page:
> >
> > http://cayenne.apache.org/doc/selectquery.html
> >
> > renders in about a six-point font and is pretty difficult to read.
>
> These things are often a balance between different browsers. It looks
> pretty good in Firefox 2.x on 10.4.8. What combination are you
> running? I notice that Safari renders many web sites smaller, and to
> be honest we didn't test the site in Safari under 10.5, given that
> that version is still in development. Safari on 10.4.8 looks OK to
> me: all fonts are uniformly too small for more liking, but Apple-+
> fixes that nicely.
>
> Ari
>
>
> -------------------------->
> ish
> http://www.ish.com.au
> Level 1, 30 Wilson Street Newtown 2042 Australia
> phone +61 2 9550 5001 fax +61 2 9550 4001
> GPG fingerprint CBFB 84B4 738D 4E87 5E5C 5EFA EF6A 7D2E 3E49 102A
>
>
>
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Aristedes Maniatis <ar...@ish.com.au>.
On 06/02/2007, at 2:01 AM, Michael Gentry wrote:
> Ari/Bruce: Quick font question about the new web site. Is there
> anyone the pre-formatted text can be made larger? Maybe it is a
> Mac-only issue, but the pre-formatted text, like on this page:
>
> http://cayenne.apache.org/doc/selectquery.html
>
> renders in about a six-point font and is pretty difficult to read.
These things are often a balance between different browsers. It looks
pretty good in Firefox 2.x on 10.4.8. What combination are you
running? I notice that Safari renders many web sites smaller, and to
be honest we didn't test the site in Safari under 10.5, given that
that version is still in development. Safari on 10.4.8 looks OK to
me: all fonts are uniformly too small for more liking, but Apple-+
fixes that nicely.
Ari
-------------------------->
ish
http://www.ish.com.au
Level 1, 30 Wilson Street Newtown 2042 Australia
phone +61 2 9550 5001 fax +61 2 9550 4001
GPG fingerprint CBFB 84B4 738D 4E87 5E5C 5EFA EF6A 7D2E 3E49 102A
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Michael Gentry <bl...@gmail.com>.
If anyone is interested, Cayenne now appears on the left sidebar of
http://www.apache.org/ :-)
Ari/Bruce: Quick font question about the new web site. Is there
anyone the pre-formatted text can be made larger? Maybe it is a
Mac-only issue, but the pre-formatted text, like on this page:
http://cayenne.apache.org/doc/selectquery.html
renders in about a six-point font and is pretty difficult to read.
Especially on the new MBP, which has an even higher density screen
than my old system. (I know, 10.5 is suppose to have resolution
independent fonts ...) Anyway, just curious if it was easy/possible
to tweak that font for us OS X users ...
Thanks!
/dev/mrg
PS. If you need a screenshot, let me know and I'll send you a PNG of
how it renders.
On 2/4/07, Aristedes Maniatis <ar...@ish.com.au> wrote:
> Ah, now I understand. It isn't that the links are broken, just that
> they don't exist! I had to go through by hand and update all the
> links in the 3.0 docs and it is quite time consuming. We didn't want
> to use the built-in "child pages" list since Confluence has no sense
> of page order (other than alphabetical) and in many places page order
> is important when listing child pages. Hopefully this will be
> implemented in Confluence soon. Go and vote for it if you like:
> http://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONF-1031
>
> I'll try to update at least the 2.0 docs, but it is pretty time
> consuming and my week aheads looks to be a busy one. In the meantime,
> I've added to the top of each guide a full list of all children in
> that guide. Not perfect since it is in alphabetical order rather than
> logical order, but better than nothing. It may take up to an hour to
> appear on the live site.
>
> Ari Maniatis
>
>
> On 04/02/2007, at 3:25 PM, Ryan Holmes wrote:
>
> > Yeah, the problem is in the version 2.0 and 1.2 documentation. For
> > instance, if you click on Version 2.0 -> User Guide -> Deployment,
> > there is no "Sections" area at the bottom with links to child
> > pages, as there is in the 3.0 documentation.
> >
> > Sorry if my initial post was vague.
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
> >
> >> I'm clicking on links everywhere through the docs, but nothing
> >> seems broken. Can you give an example of one page with a broken
> >> link on it and I'll get onto fixing it.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Ari Maniatis
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/02/2007, at 2:03 PM, Ryan Holmes wrote:
> >>
> >>> Looks great! Unfortunately, the documentation seems to be broken.
> >>> Looks like only top-level pages are reachable through the
> >>> submenus but no child pages (or am I just dense?).
> >>>
> >>> -Ryan
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:55 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As some may have noticed already, Cayenne website just moved,
> >>>> got a serious facelift, and started to use Confluence as a CMS
> >>>> in the backend:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://cayenne.apache.org/
> >>>> http://cayenne.apache.org/2007/02/01/new-web-site.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks to Bruce and Ari for all the work they've put into it!
> >>>> Looks really nice :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> We'll continue improving the content (like linking of
> >>>> subchapters in the docs), the looks (color-coding of different
> >>>> versions of documentation), and will list the site on
> >>>> www.apache.org shortly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrus
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------------------------->
> >> ish
> >> http://www.ish.com.au
> >> Level 1, 30 Wilson Street Newtown 2042 Australia
> >> phone +61 2 9550 5001 fax +61 2 9550 4001
> >> GPG fingerprint CBFB 84B4 738D 4E87 5E5C 5EFA EF6A 7D2E 3E49 102A
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------->
> ish
> http://www.ish.com.au
> Level 1, 30 Wilson Street Newtown 2042 Australia
> phone +61 2 9550 5001 fax +61 2 9550 4001
> GPG fingerprint CBFB 84B4 738D 4E87 5E5C 5EFA EF6A 7D2E 3E49 102A
>
>
>
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Aristedes Maniatis <ar...@ish.com.au>.
Ah, now I understand. It isn't that the links are broken, just that
they don't exist! I had to go through by hand and update all the
links in the 3.0 docs and it is quite time consuming. We didn't want
to use the built-in "child pages" list since Confluence has no sense
of page order (other than alphabetical) and in many places page order
is important when listing child pages. Hopefully this will be
implemented in Confluence soon. Go and vote for it if you like:
http://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONF-1031
I'll try to update at least the 2.0 docs, but it is pretty time
consuming and my week aheads looks to be a busy one. In the meantime,
I've added to the top of each guide a full list of all children in
that guide. Not perfect since it is in alphabetical order rather than
logical order, but better than nothing. It may take up to an hour to
appear on the live site.
Ari Maniatis
On 04/02/2007, at 3:25 PM, Ryan Holmes wrote:
> Yeah, the problem is in the version 2.0 and 1.2 documentation. For
> instance, if you click on Version 2.0 -> User Guide -> Deployment,
> there is no "Sections" area at the bottom with links to child
> pages, as there is in the 3.0 documentation.
>
> Sorry if my initial post was vague.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Feb 3, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
>
>> I'm clicking on links everywhere through the docs, but nothing
>> seems broken. Can you give an example of one page with a broken
>> link on it and I'll get onto fixing it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ari Maniatis
>>
>>
>> On 04/02/2007, at 2:03 PM, Ryan Holmes wrote:
>>
>>> Looks great! Unfortunately, the documentation seems to be broken.
>>> Looks like only top-level pages are reachable through the
>>> submenus but no child pages (or am I just dense?).
>>>
>>> -Ryan
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:55 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>>>
>>>> As some may have noticed already, Cayenne website just moved,
>>>> got a serious facelift, and started to use Confluence as a CMS
>>>> in the backend:
>>>>
>>>> http://cayenne.apache.org/
>>>> http://cayenne.apache.org/2007/02/01/new-web-site.html
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Bruce and Ari for all the work they've put into it!
>>>> Looks really nice :-)
>>>>
>>>> We'll continue improving the content (like linking of
>>>> subchapters in the docs), the looks (color-coding of different
>>>> versions of documentation), and will list the site on
>>>> www.apache.org shortly.
>>>>
>>>> Andrus
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------->
>> ish
>> http://www.ish.com.au
>> Level 1, 30 Wilson Street Newtown 2042 Australia
>> phone +61 2 9550 5001 fax +61 2 9550 4001
>> GPG fingerprint CBFB 84B4 738D 4E87 5E5C 5EFA EF6A 7D2E 3E49 102A
>>
>>
>
-------------------------->
ish
http://www.ish.com.au
Level 1, 30 Wilson Street Newtown 2042 Australia
phone +61 2 9550 5001 fax +61 2 9550 4001
GPG fingerprint CBFB 84B4 738D 4E87 5E5C 5EFA EF6A 7D2E 3E49 102A
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Ryan Holmes <ry...@hyperstep.com>.
Yeah, the problem is in the version 2.0 and 1.2 documentation. For
instance, if you click on Version 2.0 -> User Guide -> Deployment,
there is no "Sections" area at the bottom with links to child pages,
as there is in the 3.0 documentation.
Sorry if my initial post was vague.
-Ryan
On Feb 3, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
> I'm clicking on links everywhere through the docs, but nothing
> seems broken. Can you give an example of one page with a broken
> link on it and I'll get onto fixing it.
>
> Thanks
> Ari Maniatis
>
>
> On 04/02/2007, at 2:03 PM, Ryan Holmes wrote:
>
>> Looks great! Unfortunately, the documentation seems to be broken.
>> Looks like only top-level pages are reachable through the submenus
>> but no child pages (or am I just dense?).
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:55 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>>
>>> As some may have noticed already, Cayenne website just moved, got
>>> a serious facelift, and started to use Confluence as a CMS in the
>>> backend:
>>>
>>> http://cayenne.apache.org/
>>> http://cayenne.apache.org/2007/02/01/new-web-site.html
>>>
>>> Thanks to Bruce and Ari for all the work they've put into it!
>>> Looks really nice :-)
>>>
>>> We'll continue improving the content (like linking of subchapters
>>> in the docs), the looks (color-coding of different versions of
>>> documentation), and will list the site on www.apache.org shortly.
>>>
>>> Andrus
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------->
> ish
> http://www.ish.com.au
> Level 1, 30 Wilson Street Newtown 2042 Australia
> phone +61 2 9550 5001 fax +61 2 9550 4001
> GPG fingerprint CBFB 84B4 738D 4E87 5E5C 5EFA EF6A 7D2E 3E49 102A
>
>
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Aristedes Maniatis <ar...@ish.com.au>.
I'm clicking on links everywhere through the docs, but nothing seems
broken. Can you give an example of one page with a broken link on it
and I'll get onto fixing it.
Thanks
Ari Maniatis
On 04/02/2007, at 2:03 PM, Ryan Holmes wrote:
> Looks great! Unfortunately, the documentation seems to be broken.
> Looks like only top-level pages are reachable through the submenus
> but no child pages (or am I just dense?).
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:55 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
>> As some may have noticed already, Cayenne website just moved, got
>> a serious facelift, and started to use Confluence as a CMS in the
>> backend:
>>
>> http://cayenne.apache.org/
>> http://cayenne.apache.org/2007/02/01/new-web-site.html
>>
>> Thanks to Bruce and Ari for all the work they've put into it!
>> Looks really nice :-)
>>
>> We'll continue improving the content (like linking of subchapters
>> in the docs), the looks (color-coding of different versions of
>> documentation), and will list the site on www.apache.org shortly.
>>
>> Andrus
>
-------------------------->
ish
http://www.ish.com.au
Level 1, 30 Wilson Street Newtown 2042 Australia
phone +61 2 9550 5001 fax +61 2 9550 4001
GPG fingerprint CBFB 84B4 738D 4E87 5E5C 5EFA EF6A 7D2E 3E49 102A
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Ryan Holmes <ry...@hyperstep.com>.
Looks great! Unfortunately, the documentation seems to be broken.
Looks like only top-level pages are reachable through the submenus
but no child pages (or am I just dense?).
-Ryan
On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:55 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> As some may have noticed already, Cayenne website just moved, got a
> serious facelift, and started to use Confluence as a CMS in the
> backend:
>
> http://cayenne.apache.org/
> http://cayenne.apache.org/2007/02/01/new-web-site.html
>
> Thanks to Bruce and Ari for all the work they've put into it! Looks
> really nice :-)
>
> We'll continue improving the content (like linking of subchapters
> in the docs), the looks (color-coding of different versions of
> documentation), and will list the site on www.apache.org shortly.
>
> Andrus
Re: Unsubscribe
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Hi Howard,
Sometimes unsubscribe confirmation emails get stuck in the spam
filters. I just unsubscribed you manually. Let me know if this didn't
work.
Andrus
On Feb 2, 2007, at 2:12 AM, Howard Treisman wrote:
> Hi
> I just followed the instructions to unsubscribe from the "new" mailing
> list, but I'm still on it.
> What is the correct way to do this?
> Thanks,
> Howard
> PS No offence, I still love Cayenne, just going off the mailing list
>
RE: Unsubscribe
Posted by Howard Treisman <ht...@avoka.com>.
Hi
I just followed the instructions to unsubscribe from the "new" mailing
list, but I'm still on it.
What is the correct way to do this?
Thanks,
Howard
PS No offence, I still love Cayenne, just going off the mailing list
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Michael Gentry <bl...@gmail.com>.
As Andrus said, he "will list the site on www.apache.org shortly" ...
so stay tuned. :-)
Thanks!
/dev/mrg
On 2/1/07, Ahmed Mohombe <am...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > http://cayenne.apache.org/
> Nice but is still not linked from the Apache "TLP menu".
> http://www.apache.org/
> (it should be between "beehive" and "cocoon", right? :) )
> so most users who don't know the above cayenne URL won't be able to find it.
>
> Ahmed.
>
>
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Ahmed Mohombe <am...@yahoo.com>.
> http://cayenne.apache.org/
Nice but is still not linked from the Apache "TLP menu".
http://www.apache.org/
(it should be between "beehive" and "cocoon", right? :) )
so most users who don't know the above cayenne URL won't be able to find it.
Ahmed.
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Not sure if that's some ASF "branding script" that overrides the site
image, but this is the image that I placed on the site:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cayenne/site/trunk/tlp-site/target/
favicon.ico
I may try to put it in a subdirectory and link from there.
Andrus
On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Michael Gentry wrote:
> PS. Any chance of getting the mini-pepper back in the URL bar? I
> loved that little touch. :-)
>
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com>.
looks great.
regards Malcolm
On 2/2/07, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
> It is back. Looks really nice indeed.
>
> Andrus
>
> On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Michael Gentry wrote:
>
> > PS. Any chance of getting the mini-pepper back in the URL bar? I
> > loved that little touch. :-)
>
>
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
It is back. Looks really nice indeed.
Andrus
On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Michael Gentry wrote:
> PS. Any chance of getting the mini-pepper back in the URL bar? I
> loved that little touch. :-)
Re: [ANN] New Web Site
Posted by Michael Gentry <bl...@gmail.com>.
A big thanks to Bruce and Ari. Looks clean and professional. Thanks
so much for the design and hard work!
/dev/mrg
PS. Any chance of getting the mini-pepper back in the URL bar? I
loved that little touch. :-)
On 2/1/07, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
> As some may have noticed already, Cayenne website just moved, got a
> serious facelift, and started to use Confluence as a CMS in the backend:
>
> http://cayenne.apache.org/
> http://cayenne.apache.org/2007/02/01/new-web-site.html
>
> Thanks to Bruce and Ari for all the work they've put into it! Looks
> really nice :-)
>
> We'll continue improving the content (like linking of subchapters in
> the docs), the looks (color-coding of different versions of
> documentation), and will list the site on www.apache.org shortly.
>
> Andrus
>