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[DAS] What's next for Tuscany DAS ?
With the DAS beta1 release out, I'd like to look forward to things
that we want to do next for DAS.
I think that there are still couple things that we can improve our
core DAS features, the main one would be adding support for multiple
DAS implementations, and review our SDO 2.1 APIs usage.
As for our history with SCA integration, we have started efforts
around Data Services/Declarative DAS (implementation.das) and Data
Feeds (implementation.data), and this is probably another area we
would like to continue to work going forward.
I also think we should continue to improve our user documentation and
distribution infrastructure to make our release cut easier.
Below is a summary list of items and JIRAs that are related to these
possible items :
- TUSCANY-986 - DAS integration with SDO 2.1 APIs
- TUSCANY-961 - DAS: Using deprected SDO method causes Type lookup failure
- Refactoring DAS to allow multiple implementatons
As for timeframe, maybe it would be good to have a release in the next
couple weeks, to support SDO 1.0 and be available to the SCA release,
so we can have the integration story with SCA available.
This is just of brain dump of where my thinking is at the moment, I'm
sure everyone has their own thoughts about things we should tackle. It
would be good to get to them all on the table :-)
Thoughts ?
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Apache Tuscany Committer
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http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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Re: [DAS] What's next for Tuscany DAS ?
Posted by haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>.
Beta 2 sounds right given that this is just sync'ing up with SDO version 1.0.
On 9/5/07, Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> sounds good to me.
>
> On 9/6/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Good, looks like we have most (if not all) the updates necessary to
> > support SDO 2.1 specification and to be compatible with SDO 1.0
> > release. I'd like to start to work on a new release in the next couple
> > days, and if we make it on time, we could still have a chance to
> > include DAS in the SCA 1.0 release (planned for middle of September).
> > As for naming, I was thinking to make this a beta2 release. Thoughts ?
> >
> > On 8/27/07, Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I have attached patch for TUSCANY-961+ TUSCANY-986 combined in
> > TUSCANY-961.
> > > One observation here -
> > > Generated code shows usage of deprecated method
> FactoryBase.getProperty
> > (Type,
> > > int) and needs to be replaced by getLocalProperty(), any changes
> needed
> > in
> > > xsdtojava generator in SDO?
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Amita
> > >
> > > On 8/22/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > With the DAS beta1 release out, I'd like to look forward to things
> > > > that we want to do next for DAS.
> > > >
> > > > I think that there are still couple things that we can improve our
> > > > core DAS features, the main one would be adding support for multiple
> > > > DAS implementations, and review our SDO 2.1 APIs usage.
> > > >
> > > > As for our history with SCA integration, we have started efforts
> > > > around Data Services/Declarative DAS (implementation.das) and Data
> > > > Feeds (implementation.data), and this is probably another area we
> > > > would like to continue to work going forward.
> > > >
> > > > I also think we should continue to improve our user documentation
> and
> > > > distribution infrastructure to make our release cut easier.
> > > >
> > > > Below is a summary list of items and JIRAs that are related to these
> > > > possible items :
> > > >
> > > > - TUSCANY-986 - DAS integration with SDO 2.1 APIs
> > > > - TUSCANY-961 - DAS: Using deprected SDO method causes Type lookup
> > failure
> > > > - Refactoring DAS to allow multiple implementatons
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As for timeframe, maybe it would be good to have a release in the
> next
> > > > couple weeks, to support SDO 1.0 and be available to the SCA
> release,
> > > > so we can have the integration story with SCA available.
> > > >
> > > > This is just of brain dump of where my thinking is at the moment,
> I'm
> > > > sure everyone has their own thoughts about things we should tackle.
> It
> > > > would be good to get to them all on the table :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
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> >
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Re: [DAS] What's next for Tuscany DAS ?
Posted by haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>.
Beta 2 sounds right given that this is just sync'ing up with SDO version 1.0.
On 9/5/07, Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> sounds good to me.
>
> On 9/6/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Good, looks like we have most (if not all) the updates necessary to
> > support SDO 2.1 specification and to be compatible with SDO 1.0
> > release. I'd like to start to work on a new release in the next couple
> > days, and if we make it on time, we could still have a chance to
> > include DAS in the SCA 1.0 release (planned for middle of September).
> > As for naming, I was thinking to make this a beta2 release. Thoughts ?
> >
> > On 8/27/07, Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I have attached patch for TUSCANY-961+ TUSCANY-986 combined in
> > TUSCANY-961.
> > > One observation here -
> > > Generated code shows usage of deprecated method
> FactoryBase.getProperty
> > (Type,
> > > int) and needs to be replaced by getLocalProperty(), any changes
> needed
> > in
> > > xsdtojava generator in SDO?
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Amita
> > >
> > > On 8/22/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > With the DAS beta1 release out, I'd like to look forward to things
> > > > that we want to do next for DAS.
> > > >
> > > > I think that there are still couple things that we can improve our
> > > > core DAS features, the main one would be adding support for multiple
> > > > DAS implementations, and review our SDO 2.1 APIs usage.
> > > >
> > > > As for our history with SCA integration, we have started efforts
> > > > around Data Services/Declarative DAS (implementation.das) and Data
> > > > Feeds (implementation.data), and this is probably another area we
> > > > would like to continue to work going forward.
> > > >
> > > > I also think we should continue to improve our user documentation
> and
> > > > distribution infrastructure to make our release cut easier.
> > > >
> > > > Below is a summary list of items and JIRAs that are related to these
> > > > possible items :
> > > >
> > > > - TUSCANY-986 - DAS integration with SDO 2.1 APIs
> > > > - TUSCANY-961 - DAS: Using deprected SDO method causes Type lookup
> > failure
> > > > - Refactoring DAS to allow multiple implementatons
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As for timeframe, maybe it would be good to have a release in the
> next
> > > > couple weeks, to support SDO 1.0 and be available to the SCA
> release,
> > > > so we can have the integration story with SCA available.
> > > >
> > > > This is just of brain dump of where my thinking is at the moment,
> I'm
> > > > sure everyone has their own thoughts about things we should tackle.
> It
> > > > would be good to get to them all on the table :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
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> >
> >
>
Re: [DAS] What's next for Tuscany DAS ?
Posted by Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com>.
sounds good to me.
On 9/6/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good, looks like we have most (if not all) the updates necessary to
> support SDO 2.1 specification and to be compatible with SDO 1.0
> release. I'd like to start to work on a new release in the next couple
> days, and if we make it on time, we could still have a chance to
> include DAS in the SCA 1.0 release (planned for middle of September).
> As for naming, I was thinking to make this a beta2 release. Thoughts ?
>
> On 8/27/07, Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have attached patch for TUSCANY-961+ TUSCANY-986 combined in
> TUSCANY-961.
> > One observation here -
> > Generated code shows usage of deprecated method FactoryBase.getProperty
> (Type,
> > int) and needs to be replaced by getLocalProperty(), any changes needed
> in
> > xsdtojava generator in SDO?
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Amita
> >
> > On 8/22/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > With the DAS beta1 release out, I'd like to look forward to things
> > > that we want to do next for DAS.
> > >
> > > I think that there are still couple things that we can improve our
> > > core DAS features, the main one would be adding support for multiple
> > > DAS implementations, and review our SDO 2.1 APIs usage.
> > >
> > > As for our history with SCA integration, we have started efforts
> > > around Data Services/Declarative DAS (implementation.das) and Data
> > > Feeds (implementation.data), and this is probably another area we
> > > would like to continue to work going forward.
> > >
> > > I also think we should continue to improve our user documentation and
> > > distribution infrastructure to make our release cut easier.
> > >
> > > Below is a summary list of items and JIRAs that are related to these
> > > possible items :
> > >
> > > - TUSCANY-986 - DAS integration with SDO 2.1 APIs
> > > - TUSCANY-961 - DAS: Using deprected SDO method causes Type lookup
> failure
> > > - Refactoring DAS to allow multiple implementatons
> > >
> > >
> > > As for timeframe, maybe it would be good to have a release in the next
> > > couple weeks, to support SDO 1.0 and be available to the SCA release,
> > > so we can have the integration story with SCA available.
> > >
> > > This is just of brain dump of where my thinking is at the moment, I'm
> > > sure everyone has their own thoughts about things we should tackle. It
> > > would be good to get to them all on the table :-)
> > >
> > > Thoughts ?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Luciano Resende
> > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany Committer
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
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>
Re: [DAS] What's next for Tuscany DAS ?
Posted by Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com>.
sounds good to me.
On 9/6/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good, looks like we have most (if not all) the updates necessary to
> support SDO 2.1 specification and to be compatible with SDO 1.0
> release. I'd like to start to work on a new release in the next couple
> days, and if we make it on time, we could still have a chance to
> include DAS in the SCA 1.0 release (planned for middle of September).
> As for naming, I was thinking to make this a beta2 release. Thoughts ?
>
> On 8/27/07, Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have attached patch for TUSCANY-961+ TUSCANY-986 combined in
> TUSCANY-961.
> > One observation here -
> > Generated code shows usage of deprecated method FactoryBase.getProperty
> (Type,
> > int) and needs to be replaced by getLocalProperty(), any changes needed
> in
> > xsdtojava generator in SDO?
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Amita
> >
> > On 8/22/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > With the DAS beta1 release out, I'd like to look forward to things
> > > that we want to do next for DAS.
> > >
> > > I think that there are still couple things that we can improve our
> > > core DAS features, the main one would be adding support for multiple
> > > DAS implementations, and review our SDO 2.1 APIs usage.
> > >
> > > As for our history with SCA integration, we have started efforts
> > > around Data Services/Declarative DAS (implementation.das) and Data
> > > Feeds (implementation.data), and this is probably another area we
> > > would like to continue to work going forward.
> > >
> > > I also think we should continue to improve our user documentation and
> > > distribution infrastructure to make our release cut easier.
> > >
> > > Below is a summary list of items and JIRAs that are related to these
> > > possible items :
> > >
> > > - TUSCANY-986 - DAS integration with SDO 2.1 APIs
> > > - TUSCANY-961 - DAS: Using deprected SDO method causes Type lookup
> failure
> > > - Refactoring DAS to allow multiple implementatons
> > >
> > >
> > > As for timeframe, maybe it would be good to have a release in the next
> > > couple weeks, to support SDO 1.0 and be available to the SCA release,
> > > so we can have the integration story with SCA available.
> > >
> > > This is just of brain dump of where my thinking is at the moment, I'm
> > > sure everyone has their own thoughts about things we should tackle. It
> > > would be good to get to them all on the table :-)
> > >
> > > Thoughts ?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Luciano Resende
> > > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany Committer
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
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>
>
Re: [DAS] What's next for Tuscany DAS ?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
Good, looks like we have most (if not all) the updates necessary to
support SDO 2.1 specification and to be compatible with SDO 1.0
release. I'd like to start to work on a new release in the next couple
days, and if we make it on time, we could still have a chance to
include DAS in the SCA 1.0 release (planned for middle of September).
As for naming, I was thinking to make this a beta2 release. Thoughts ?
On 8/27/07, Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have attached patch for TUSCANY-961+ TUSCANY-986 combined in TUSCANY-961.
> One observation here -
> Generated code shows usage of deprecated method FactoryBase.getProperty(Type,
> int) and needs to be replaced by getLocalProperty(), any changes needed in
> xsdtojava generator in SDO?
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> Amita
>
> On 8/22/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > With the DAS beta1 release out, I'd like to look forward to things
> > that we want to do next for DAS.
> >
> > I think that there are still couple things that we can improve our
> > core DAS features, the main one would be adding support for multiple
> > DAS implementations, and review our SDO 2.1 APIs usage.
> >
> > As for our history with SCA integration, we have started efforts
> > around Data Services/Declarative DAS (implementation.das) and Data
> > Feeds (implementation.data), and this is probably another area we
> > would like to continue to work going forward.
> >
> > I also think we should continue to improve our user documentation and
> > distribution infrastructure to make our release cut easier.
> >
> > Below is a summary list of items and JIRAs that are related to these
> > possible items :
> >
> > - TUSCANY-986 - DAS integration with SDO 2.1 APIs
> > - TUSCANY-961 - DAS: Using deprected SDO method causes Type lookup failure
> > - Refactoring DAS to allow multiple implementatons
> >
> >
> > As for timeframe, maybe it would be good to have a release in the next
> > couple weeks, to support SDO 1.0 and be available to the SCA release,
> > so we can have the integration story with SCA available.
> >
> > This is just of brain dump of where my thinking is at the moment, I'm
> > sure everyone has their own thoughts about things we should tackle. It
> > would be good to get to them all on the table :-)
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> >
> >
>
--
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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Re: [DAS] What's next for Tuscany DAS ?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
Good, looks like we have most (if not all) the updates necessary to
support SDO 2.1 specification and to be compatible with SDO 1.0
release. I'd like to start to work on a new release in the next couple
days, and if we make it on time, we could still have a chance to
include DAS in the SCA 1.0 release (planned for middle of September).
As for naming, I was thinking to make this a beta2 release. Thoughts ?
On 8/27/07, Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have attached patch for TUSCANY-961+ TUSCANY-986 combined in TUSCANY-961.
> One observation here -
> Generated code shows usage of deprecated method FactoryBase.getProperty(Type,
> int) and needs to be replaced by getLocalProperty(), any changes needed in
> xsdtojava generator in SDO?
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> Amita
>
> On 8/22/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > With the DAS beta1 release out, I'd like to look forward to things
> > that we want to do next for DAS.
> >
> > I think that there are still couple things that we can improve our
> > core DAS features, the main one would be adding support for multiple
> > DAS implementations, and review our SDO 2.1 APIs usage.
> >
> > As for our history with SCA integration, we have started efforts
> > around Data Services/Declarative DAS (implementation.das) and Data
> > Feeds (implementation.data), and this is probably another area we
> > would like to continue to work going forward.
> >
> > I also think we should continue to improve our user documentation and
> > distribution infrastructure to make our release cut easier.
> >
> > Below is a summary list of items and JIRAs that are related to these
> > possible items :
> >
> > - TUSCANY-986 - DAS integration with SDO 2.1 APIs
> > - TUSCANY-961 - DAS: Using deprected SDO method causes Type lookup failure
> > - Refactoring DAS to allow multiple implementatons
> >
> >
> > As for timeframe, maybe it would be good to have a release in the next
> > couple weeks, to support SDO 1.0 and be available to the SCA release,
> > so we can have the integration story with SCA available.
> >
> > This is just of brain dump of where my thinking is at the moment, I'm
> > sure everyone has their own thoughts about things we should tackle. It
> > would be good to get to them all on the table :-)
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > Apache Tuscany Committer
> > http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> >
> >
>
--
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Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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Re: [DAS] What's next for Tuscany DAS ?
Posted by Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com>.
I have attached patch for TUSCANY-961+ TUSCANY-986 combined in TUSCANY-961.
One observation here -
Generated code shows usage of deprecated method FactoryBase.getProperty(Type,
int) and needs to be replaced by getLocalProperty(), any changes needed in
xsdtojava generator in SDO?
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Amita
On 8/22/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> With the DAS beta1 release out, I'd like to look forward to things
> that we want to do next for DAS.
>
> I think that there are still couple things that we can improve our
> core DAS features, the main one would be adding support for multiple
> DAS implementations, and review our SDO 2.1 APIs usage.
>
> As for our history with SCA integration, we have started efforts
> around Data Services/Declarative DAS (implementation.das) and Data
> Feeds (implementation.data), and this is probably another area we
> would like to continue to work going forward.
>
> I also think we should continue to improve our user documentation and
> distribution infrastructure to make our release cut easier.
>
> Below is a summary list of items and JIRAs that are related to these
> possible items :
>
> - TUSCANY-986 - DAS integration with SDO 2.1 APIs
> - TUSCANY-961 - DAS: Using deprected SDO method causes Type lookup failure
> - Refactoring DAS to allow multiple implementatons
>
>
> As for timeframe, maybe it would be good to have a release in the next
> couple weeks, to support SDO 1.0 and be available to the SCA release,
> so we can have the integration story with SCA available.
>
> This is just of brain dump of where my thinking is at the moment, I'm
> sure everyone has their own thoughts about things we should tackle. It
> would be good to get to them all on the table :-)
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany Committer
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
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>
>
Re: [DAS] What's next for Tuscany DAS ?
Posted by Amita Vadhavkar <am...@gmail.com>.
I have attached patch for TUSCANY-961+ TUSCANY-986 combined in TUSCANY-961.
One observation here -
Generated code shows usage of deprecated method FactoryBase.getProperty(Type,
int) and needs to be replaced by getLocalProperty(), any changes needed in
xsdtojava generator in SDO?
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Amita
On 8/22/07, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> With the DAS beta1 release out, I'd like to look forward to things
> that we want to do next for DAS.
>
> I think that there are still couple things that we can improve our
> core DAS features, the main one would be adding support for multiple
> DAS implementations, and review our SDO 2.1 APIs usage.
>
> As for our history with SCA integration, we have started efforts
> around Data Services/Declarative DAS (implementation.das) and Data
> Feeds (implementation.data), and this is probably another area we
> would like to continue to work going forward.
>
> I also think we should continue to improve our user documentation and
> distribution infrastructure to make our release cut easier.
>
> Below is a summary list of items and JIRAs that are related to these
> possible items :
>
> - TUSCANY-986 - DAS integration with SDO 2.1 APIs
> - TUSCANY-961 - DAS: Using deprected SDO method causes Type lookup failure
> - Refactoring DAS to allow multiple implementatons
>
>
> As for timeframe, maybe it would be good to have a release in the next
> couple weeks, to support SDO 1.0 and be available to the SCA release,
> so we can have the integration story with SCA available.
>
> This is just of brain dump of where my thinking is at the moment, I'm
> sure everyone has their own thoughts about things we should tackle. It
> would be good to get to them all on the table :-)
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany Committer
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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