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Posted to legal-discuss@apache.org by Lawrence Rosen <lr...@rosenlaw.com> on 2015/06/04 00:05:03 UTC
Gazornenplatz
I call this a NOTICE file for convenience and obstinacy. I believe that Jim Jagielski now calls it a GAZORNENPLATZ. /Larry
From: William A Rowe Jr [mailto:wrowe@rowe-clan.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:58 PM
To: legal-discuss@apache.org; Lawrence Rosen
Subject: Re: Proposal Next: Disclosure of standards Implemented by Apache projects
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com <ma...@rosenlaw.com> > wrote:
[This was mentioned before but I repeat it as a separate proposal to "encourage" yet more conversation here. :-) ]
Please remember that a NOTICE file should also contain a list of all industry standards implemented in that Apache aggregation.
Some standards organization licenses REQUIRE such notices of their contributions. I think it is a good practice regardless.
I have always placed these in the README, or often times CHANGES,
as it is informational guidance to the user.
If an implementation license demands advertising, such as the license
for a header file we distribute, then it does belong in NOTICE per the
terms of the license.
I believe the preference has been to avoid NOTICE pollution and dilution.
Re: Gazornenplatz (off-topic)
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Since we’re off topic, would we consider the option of PMCs allowing the
addition of a LARRYROSEN file to their releases where Larry could put in
anything that would make him happy? It would start with a disclaimer such
as:
“Larry is an actual attorney but not an attorney for the ASF. He has been
unable to convince others that the following information should also be
provided with this release.”
Then we could all get back to doing other things.
-Alex
On 6/4/15, 9:32 AM, "Richard Eckart de Castilho" <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>Just in case anybody else was wondering where this "Gazornenplatz" might
>be coming from...
>
>http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_gazorninplat
>
>Cheers,
>
>-- Richard
>
>On 04.06.2015, at 13:28, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
>> Only because it is easy to spell and rolls off the tongue well.
>>
>>> On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lr...@rosenlaw.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I call this a NOTICE file for convenience and obstinacy. I believe
>>>that Jim Jagielski now calls it a GAZORNENPLATZ. /Larry
>>>
>>>
>>> From: William A Rowe Jr [mailto:wrowe@rowe-clan.net]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:58 PM
>>> To: legal-discuss@apache.org; Lawrence Rosen
>>> Subject: Re: Proposal Next: Disclosure of standards Implemented by
>>>Apache projects
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lr...@rosenlaw.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>> [This was mentioned before but I repeat it as a separate proposal to
>>>>"encourage" yet more conversation here. :-) ]
>>>>
>>>> Please remember that a NOTICE file should also contain a list of all
>>>>industry standards implemented in that Apache aggregation.
>>>>
>>>> Some standards organization licenses REQUIRE such notices of their
>>>>contributions. I think it is a good practice regardless.
>>>
>>> I have always placed these in the README, or often times CHANGES,
>>> as it is informational guidance to the user.
>>>
>>> If an implementation license demands advertising, such as the license
>>> for a header file we distribute, then it does belong in NOTICE per the
>>> terms of the license.
>>>
>>> I believe the preference has been to avoid NOTICE pollution and
>>>dilution.
>
>
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Re: Gazornenplatz (off-topic)
Posted by Richard Eckart de Castilho <re...@apache.org>.
Just in case anybody else was wondering where this "Gazornenplatz" might be coming from...
http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_gazorninplat
Cheers,
-- Richard
On 04.06.2015, at 13:28, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> Only because it is easy to spell and rolls off the tongue well.
>
>> On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lr...@rosenlaw.com> wrote:
>>
>> I call this a NOTICE file for convenience and obstinacy. I believe that Jim Jagielski now calls it a GAZORNENPLATZ. /Larry
>>
>>
>> From: William A Rowe Jr [mailto:wrowe@rowe-clan.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:58 PM
>> To: legal-discuss@apache.org; Lawrence Rosen
>> Subject: Re: Proposal Next: Disclosure of standards Implemented by Apache projects
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lr...@rosenlaw.com> wrote:
>>> [This was mentioned before but I repeat it as a separate proposal to "encourage" yet more conversation here. :-) ]
>>>
>>> Please remember that a NOTICE file should also contain a list of all industry standards implemented in that Apache aggregation.
>>>
>>> Some standards organization licenses REQUIRE such notices of their contributions. I think it is a good practice regardless.
>>
>> I have always placed these in the README, or often times CHANGES,
>> as it is informational guidance to the user.
>>
>> If an implementation license demands advertising, such as the license
>> for a header file we distribute, then it does belong in NOTICE per the
>> terms of the license.
>>
>> I believe the preference has been to avoid NOTICE pollution and dilution.
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Re: Gazornenplatz
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Only because it is easy to spell and rolls off the tongue well.
> On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lr...@rosenlaw.com> wrote:
>
> I call this a NOTICE file for convenience and obstinacy. I believe that Jim Jagielski now calls it a GAZORNENPLATZ. /Larry
>
>
> From: William A Rowe Jr [mailto:wrowe@rowe-clan.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:58 PM
> To: legal-discuss@apache.org; Lawrence Rosen
> Subject: Re: Proposal Next: Disclosure of standards Implemented by Apache projects
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lr...@rosenlaw.com> wrote:
>> [This was mentioned before but I repeat it as a separate proposal to "encourage" yet more conversation here. :-) ]
>>
>> Please remember that a NOTICE file should also contain a list of all industry standards implemented in that Apache aggregation.
>>
>> Some standards organization licenses REQUIRE such notices of their contributions. I think it is a good practice regardless.
>
> I have always placed these in the README, or often times CHANGES,
> as it is informational guidance to the user.
>
> If an implementation license demands advertising, such as the license
> for a header file we distribute, then it does belong in NOTICE per the
> terms of the license.
>
> I believe the preference has been to avoid NOTICE pollution and dilution.
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