[Fwd: Re: svnserve - Windows service will not start]

[Peter Bradley <P....@dsl.pipex.com>]

Ysgrifennodd Kevin Grover:

>
> On the 'if you didn't pay, it can't be good note', get a PO and order
> a supported copy from CollabNET.  You don't need to tell any of the
> idiots that you can still download that version for free.
>
> And, you can run it all on Windows if you want.  However, after a few
> weeks, maybe the Windows server breaks (a small hammer can do that you
> know), so you'll drop in a Linux box as a temporary measure (because
> you didn't have time to crawl through the bureaucracy to get a Windows
> License), and just never get around to changing it.
>
> Sorry if I sound upset, at work, I've heard some of the stupidest
> arguments along those lines.  Many times from people I _thought_
> weren't idiots....
>
Sounds like we should get together an have a mutual grump over a decent 
pint, Kevin.

The plan at the moment is to buy VisualSVN licences, because we don't 
trust all our developers to follow the procedure without integration 
into the IDE (Visual Studio 2005).  Some people just like to have their 
hands held, don't they, and it's worth taking away any excuse they may 
have for not doing things properly.  But this should at least give us 
the opportunity to tell the powers that be that the licenses cost £27.00 
per developer, and more if they want support.  We can forget to tell 
them that it's all built on OSS software.  Crazy, I know, but it will 
probably work.

The only technical hurdle I have left is to work out why Visual Studio 
insists on holding the .sln file for Web services in a different part of 
the file system from the actual Web service itself.  Unless I can sort 
that out, I don't see how I can put the .sln file under source control 
(in the same place in the repository as the solution it controls), which 
I must do.  Somehow I've either got to change VS's behaviour, or 
discover some way of dealing with it in Subversion.

If anyone's already solved this, I hope they'll let me know - but I 
realise it's off-topic for this list.

Cheers


Peter



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Re: svnserve - Windows service will not start

[Peter Bradley <P....@dsl.pipex.com>]

Ysgrifennodd Peter Bradley:
>
> The plan at the moment is to buy VisualSVN licences, because we don't 
> trust all our developers to follow the procedure without integration 
> into the IDE (Visual Studio 2005).  Some people just like to have 
> their hands held, don't they, and it's worth taking away any excuse 
> they may have for not doing things properly.  But this should at least 
> give us the opportunity to tell the powers that be that the licenses 
> cost £27.00 per developer, and more if they want support.  We can 
> forget to tell them that it's all built on OSS software.  Crazy, I 
> know, but it will probably work.

Just for the purposes of closure...

It worked.  They (the "powers that be", spelt PHB) bought the licenses 
today and we're moving to Subversion: although they think we're "moving 
to VisualSVN".  The first time we've ever dropped a Microsoft product 
for F/OSS.  Let's hope it's a sign of things to come; and let's hope 
we'll actually be able to tell them it's F/OSS some time soon.

Thanks for all your help, folks.  It swung the deal


Peter

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