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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Shenfeng Liu <li...@gmail.com> on 2012/08/21 06:36:07 UTC
[Call for UX comments] [Call for review]Bug 120236 - when decrease
indent for bullet,the bullet will go out of page range
I changed the title to catch our UX designers' attention.
- Simon
2012/8/20 chengjh <ch...@apache.org>
> This seems not an interoperability/fidelity issue.
> 1)Aoo provides negative indent,just like MS Word 2003..Please use Numbering
> & Bullets Dialog to check..not using Decrease/Increase Indent because its
> semantic will be context sensitive according to selected contents.In MS
> Word 2003,for only one paragraph with bullets,it means indent,for multiple
> paragraphs with bullets,it means level changes.In Aoo, it only means
> indent.
>
> 2)From UI of Toolbar,MS Word end users are not able to set negative indent
> through Decrease Indent in Toolbar,but able to set large positive indent
> beyond editing area through Increase indent in toolbar.In Aoo Writer, the
> situations are reversed, end users can set negative indent through Decrease
> Indent in toolbar,but not able to set large positive indent beyond editing
> area.
>
> 3)I create a simple MS Word binary file and test the interoperability
> result, the fidelity is ok..
>
> Based on the above analysis, I agree with Oliver's comments, the issue
> mentioned by Weike is a usability issue,and need UX members to involve and
> enrich the scope,not just this point, for better experiences in this
> area.Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shenfeng Liu <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I added more comments. And add every one in cc list to the new issue
> > opened: 120585 <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120585> .
> >
> > - Shenfeng
> >
> >
> > 2012/8/16 De Bin Lei <de...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > weike, pls check the comments from Oliver.
> > > Thx a lot!
> > >
> > > 2012/8/15 Liang Weike <we...@cs2c.com.cn>
> > >
> > > > Hi Debin,
> > > >
> > > > OK. I have added my comments for this bug in bugzilla.
> > > >
> > > > And your suggestions will be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Weike,
> > > >> I volunteered to review the fixed.
> > > >> Can you explain more details for the fix in bugzilla?
> > > >> Thx a lot.
> > > >>
> > > >> 2012/8/15 Liang Weike <we...@cs2c.com.cn>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have fixed Bug 120236 and committed the patch.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Could anyone help me to review it? Thanks in advance!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=120236<
> > > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120236>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>> Liang Weike
> > > >>>
> > > >>> China Standard Software Co., Ltd
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Liang Weike
> > > >
> > > > China Standard Software Co., Ltd
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards
> > > Lei De Bin
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,Jianhong Cheng
>
Re: [Call for UX comments] [Call for review]Bug 120236 - when
decrease indent for bullet,the bullet will go out of page range
Posted by Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>.
Hello All,
I have commented on the UX design considerations for 120585 <
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120585> .
Regards,
Kevin
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Caught... I'll take a look.
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Shenfeng Liu <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I changed the title to catch our UX designers' attention.
> >
> > - Simon
> >
> >
> > 2012/8/20 chengjh <ch...@apache.org>
> >
> >> This seems not an interoperability/fidelity issue.
> >> 1)Aoo provides negative indent,just like MS Word 2003..Please use
> Numbering
> >> & Bullets Dialog to check..not using Decrease/Increase Indent because
> its
> >> semantic will be context sensitive according to selected contents.In MS
> >> Word 2003,for only one paragraph with bullets,it means indent,for
> multiple
> >> paragraphs with bullets,it means level changes.In Aoo, it only means
> >> indent.
> >>
> >> 2)From UI of Toolbar,MS Word end users are not able to set negative
> indent
> >> through Decrease Indent in Toolbar,but able to set large positive indent
> >> beyond editing area through Increase indent in toolbar.In Aoo Writer,
> the
> >> situations are reversed, end users can set negative indent through
> Decrease
> >> Indent in toolbar,but not able to set large positive indent beyond
> editing
> >> area.
> >>
> >> 3)I create a simple MS Word binary file and test the interoperability
> >> result, the fidelity is ok..
> >>
> >> Based on the above analysis, I agree with Oliver's comments, the issue
> >> mentioned by Weike is a usability issue,and need UX members to involve
> and
> >> enrich the scope,not just this point, for better experiences in this
> >> area.Thanks.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shenfeng Liu <li...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I added more comments. And add every one in cc list to the new issue
> >>> opened: 120585 <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120585>
> .
> >>>
> >>> - Shenfeng
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2012/8/16 De Bin Lei <de...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>> weike, pls check the comments from Oliver.
> >>>> Thx a lot!
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012/8/15 Liang Weike <we...@cs2c.com.cn>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Debin,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OK. I have added my comments for this bug in bugzilla.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And your suggestions will be appreciated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi, Weike,
> >>>>>> I volunteered to review the fixed.
> >>>>>> Can you explain more details for the fix in bugzilla?
> >>>>>> Thx a lot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2012/8/15 Liang Weike <we...@cs2c.com.cn>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have fixed Bug 120236 and committed the patch.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Could anyone help me to review it? Thanks in advance!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=120236<
> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120236>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>> Liang Weike
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> China Standard Software Co., Ltd
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Liang Weike
> >>>>>
> >>>>> China Standard Software Co., Ltd
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Best regards
> >>>> Lei De Bin
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Best Regards,Jianhong Cheng
> >>
>
Re: [Call for UX comments] [Call for review]Bug 120236 - when decrease indent for bullet,the bullet will go out of page range
Posted by Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>.
Caught... I'll take a look.
On Aug 21, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Shenfeng Liu <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I changed the title to catch our UX designers' attention.
>
> - Simon
>
>
> 2012/8/20 chengjh <ch...@apache.org>
>
>> This seems not an interoperability/fidelity issue.
>> 1)Aoo provides negative indent,just like MS Word 2003..Please use Numbering
>> & Bullets Dialog to check..not using Decrease/Increase Indent because its
>> semantic will be context sensitive according to selected contents.In MS
>> Word 2003,for only one paragraph with bullets,it means indent,for multiple
>> paragraphs with bullets,it means level changes.In Aoo, it only means
>> indent.
>>
>> 2)From UI of Toolbar,MS Word end users are not able to set negative indent
>> through Decrease Indent in Toolbar,but able to set large positive indent
>> beyond editing area through Increase indent in toolbar.In Aoo Writer, the
>> situations are reversed, end users can set negative indent through Decrease
>> Indent in toolbar,but not able to set large positive indent beyond editing
>> area.
>>
>> 3)I create a simple MS Word binary file and test the interoperability
>> result, the fidelity is ok..
>>
>> Based on the above analysis, I agree with Oliver's comments, the issue
>> mentioned by Weike is a usability issue,and need UX members to involve and
>> enrich the scope,not just this point, for better experiences in this
>> area.Thanks.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Shenfeng Liu <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I added more comments. And add every one in cc list to the new issue
>>> opened: 120585 <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120585> .
>>>
>>> - Shenfeng
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/8/16 De Bin Lei <de...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> weike, pls check the comments from Oliver.
>>>> Thx a lot!
>>>>
>>>> 2012/8/15 Liang Weike <we...@cs2c.com.cn>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Debin,
>>>>>
>>>>> OK. I have added my comments for this bug in bugzilla.
>>>>>
>>>>> And your suggestions will be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Weike,
>>>>>> I volunteered to review the fixed.
>>>>>> Can you explain more details for the fix in bugzilla?
>>>>>> Thx a lot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/8/15 Liang Weike <we...@cs2c.com.cn>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have fixed Bug 120236 and committed the patch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could anyone help me to review it? Thanks in advance!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=120236<
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120236>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Liang Weike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> China Standard Software Co., Ltd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Liang Weike
>>>>>
>>>>> China Standard Software Co., Ltd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Lei De Bin
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best Regards,Jianhong Cheng
>>