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(comdev-site) branch main updated: Remove duplicate newcommitter/newpmcmember pages

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     new fe118a53 Remove duplicate newcommitter/newpmcmember pages
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commit fe118a53c12245e285e71fe477e77439fa539ac9
Author: Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>
AuthorDate: Mon Oct 12 05:52:33 2026 -0400

    Remove duplicate newcommitter/newpmcmember pages
    
    These pages were superseded by /pmc/adding-committers and
    /pmc/adding-pmc-members, which carry the current content (root-absolute
    template links, GitHub capitalization, the account-created NOTICE step,
    and the Infrastructure-confirmation instruction). The old copies had
    drifted out of date and used broken relative template links.
    
    Redirects for the old URLs already exist in static/.htaccess, so
    existing links continue to resolve to the /pmc/ versions.
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 source/newpmcmember.md | 113 ---------------------
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----
-title: Inviting a New Committer
-tags: ["pmc","committers","election"]
----
-
-Identifying potential new committers, calling a vote for their recognition
-as a committer and processing the relevant documents are tasks to which
-the whole community can contribute.
-
-Each project has a different approach to managing new committers. This page
-describes a common process found in many Apache projects. It also provides
-draft templates for the various communications that are necessary.
-
-Some of the PMCs automatically make committers PMC members. The templates below
-have conditional `[if]` clauses for that.
-
-If the PMC has separate process for approving PMC members, see
-[new PMC member](/pmc/adding-pmc-members.html).  
-The [Contributor Ladder](https://community.apache.org/contributor-ladder.html) helps explain different roles.
-
-{{% toc %}}
-
-<span id="NewCommitter-Summary"></span>
-## TL;DR - Inviting a new Committer
-
-1. Discuss the proposed committer (and optionally PMC member). (Use
-   [this template](templates/committer-discuss.txt).)
-1. If the discussion seems to be going positively,
-   call a vote. (Use [this template](templates/committer-vote.txt) for
-   committer, [this template](templates/committer-pmc-vote.txt) for
-   committer and PMC member.)
-1. Close the vote. (Use [this template](templates/committer-results.txt) for a committer vote, or [this template](templates/committer-pmc-results.txt) for a committer + PMC member vote.)
-1. If the result is positive, invite the new committer. (Use [this
-   template](templates/committer-invite.txt).)
-
-If they accept, then:
-
-1. If they already have an Apache id, grant appropriate commit privileges.
-   Use the Whimsy tool to update the roster via [Comitee Roster](https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/) or
-   [PPMC Roster](https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/)
-1. If they have already filed an ICLA, request creation of the committer account.
-   If they need to change anything in a previously filed ICLA, wait until the new ICLA is filed,
-   then request the account.
-   1. Wait until root says it is done
-   1. PMC Chair updates LDAP group membership which enables svn, gitbox and other access.
-      If the committer uses GitHub, let them know that they are responsible for linking 
-      it to their ASF account.
-   1. Add committer to the appropriate access groups for any services
-      that your project uses, which are not tied to ASF LDAP.
-1. Notify the committer of completion. (Use [this
-   template](templates/committer-welcome.txt)
-1. If committer is also to be a PMC member, the PMC Chair or other PMC
-   members must [update the PMC roster](https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/)
-   See [new PMC member](https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmcmember) for more detail.
-1. Announce the new committer. (Use [this
-  template](templates/committer-announce.txt).
-
-
-<span id="NewCommitter-Guidelinesforassessingnewcandidatesforcommittership"></span>
-## Guidelines for assessing new candidates for committership
-
-Each project must decide what is the correct measure for inviting a new
-committer to their project. There are, however, several things that we
-encourage you to consider.
-
-Any PMC member can (and should!) nominate project contributors for a
-committer vote. Don't assume that the PMC chair, or some senior project
-member, will do this. Watch the contributors, and nominate promising
-participants.
-
-Remember that we do all of our development in revision control.
-Errors are reversible learning opportunities. Thus, inviting someone
-"too early" has very little risk associated with it. On the other hand,
-inviting someone too late has the very real risk that they'll get
-frustrated and leave, and you'll have missed that opportunity forever.
-Setting the bar too high has been the eventual death of many projects.
-
-Think of adding committers as an investment in the future of your
-project, rather than as a reward for good behavior. Committers whom you
-add today will be the backbone of your project tomorrow, or five years
-from now. New committers are the only way to ensure the long-term
-sustainability of your project. Look for contributors who seem to have
-new ways of thinking.
-
-Think of a committer as someone who is committed to the project, rather
-than just someone who writes code. Contributions in other areas, such as
-design, end-user support, event management, documentation, or project
-promotion, should also be welcomed into the project by inviting them as 
-committers, and, eventually, as PMC members.
-
-Finally, if you have specific requirements for committers (such as a
-period of time, or number of contributions) we encourage you to document
-that on your website. People like to know what their "career path" is in
-a project, rather than feeling that it is merely at the whim of a
-secret committee. If you see someone who seems to be on the path, point
-them to this document, so that they know what to expect, and what they
-can do to become a better contributor. See also [Becoming A
-Committer](https://community.apache.org/contributors/becomingacommitter.html)
-for general advice you might offer.
-
-The following are some points to consider when assessing a candidate's qualifications for committership.
-
-<span id="NewCommitter-Abilitytoworkco-operativelywithpeers."></span>
-### Ability to work cooperatively with peers.
-How do we evaluate?
-
-  - By the interactions they have through email.
-  - By how they respond to criticism.
-  - By how they participate in the group decision-making process.
-
-<span id="NewCommitter-Abilitytobeamentor."></span>
-### Ability to be a mentor.
-How do we evaluate?
-
-  - By the interactions they have through email.
-  - By how clear they are and how willing they are to identify or even create appropriate background
-materials.
-
-<span id="NewCommitter-Community"></span>
-### Community
-How do we evaluate?
-
-  - By the interactions they have through email.
-  - Do they help to answer questions raised on the mailing list; do they show a helpful
-attitude and respect for other people's ideas?
-
-<span id="NewCommitter-Committment"></span>
-### Commitment
-How do we evaluate?
-
-  - By time already given to the project.
-  - By how well they stick with the process through tough issues.
-  - By how they help on not-so-fun tasks.
-
-<span id="NewCommitter-Personalskill/ability"></span>
-### Personal skill/ability
-How do we evaluate?
-
-  - A solid general understanding of the project.
-  - Quality of discussion in email.
-  - Whether their patches (where applicable) are easy to apply with only a cursory review.
-
-<span id="NewCommitter-NewCommitterProcess"></span>
-## New Committer Process
-
-This section describes a typical Apache project's process for handling the
-vote to add a new committer. Templates mentioned in the process appear
-later in this document.
-
-<span id="NewCommitter-Discussion"></span>
-### Discussion
-
-We do the discussion and vote on the `private@` mailing list to enable a frank
-discussion. Any PMC member may propose a potential committer or PMC
-member. This is **not** the sole responsibility or right of the PMC
-chair.
-
-You can use [this template to start the
-discussion](templates/committer-discuss.txt).
-
-We invite people to join as committers/PMC members, not github ids. It is
-fine to refer to the candidate's github id for context, but the person should
-be referred to by their name. It is not necessary to have their full legal
-name (that will be kept private) but it is important to use their name, as
-they refer to themselves in email. If a person is known only by their github
-id, it is ok to ask them for their real name prior to holding a VOTE.
-
-We need to be sure that they are committed people with whom we can work.
-They will be our peers. We will have already observed that they are
-committed to the project and graceful toward users and other developers.
-
-Don't wait too long before proposing and don't be too hasty. There is a
-trade-off and something about timeliness. A point is reached where it
-becomes obvious that we should invite them. This encourages them and keeps
-them enthusiastic. If we leave it too long, then we risk them becoming
-disillusioned.
-
-On the `private@` list we can each say exactly what we feel about each person,
-with no holds barred. Keep the discussion concise. The praise part can
-be done later in public. Keep in mind, however, that if the member becomes
-a PMC member later, they will have access to this discussion.
-
-### Vote
-
-If the proposed candidate seems to be received positively by a majority
-of those responding, it's time to [start a vote](templates/committer-vote.txt). 
-
-In some projects, new committers are automatically also made PMC members.
-If this is the case in your project, use [this template to start the
-vote](templates/committer-pmc-vote.txt) instead.
-
-Start a separate [VOTE] thread for each new person. This makes it much easier
-to review the email archives.
-
-Let the Vote thread run for one week.
-
-A positive result is achieved when there are at least 3 +1 votes and no vetoes,
-as per the [ASF voting process
-document](https://apache.org/foundation/voting).
-
-### Announcing results
-
-After a positive result, record the result on the PMC list with a `[RESULT][VOTE]` subject
-and then invite the candidate, using [this template](templates/committer-results.txt) 
-for a new committer, or [this template](templates/committer-pmc-results.txt) 
-for a committer and PMC member.
-
-We give candidates a chance to decline committership 
-in private. They can post a reply to the PMC mailing list.
-
-After we reach a decision on the `private@` list, and after the steps above, we
-[announce the new committer on the `dev` list](templates/committer-announce.txt)
-
-Alternately, use [this template](templates/committer-pmc-announce.txt) for new
-committer + PMC member.
-
-You can use [this template](templates/committer-welcome.txt) to welcome
-the new committer to your project community. You are, however,
-encouraged to create your own version of this template, customized to
-your particular project community.
-
-Other notes about the process are available on the main 
-[Apache site](https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter).
-
-### Committer Account Creation
-Please see the [account creation instructions](https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter).
-
-In summary:
-
-If the ICLA identifies the project and a valid Apache ID, and the
-`[RESULT][VOTE]` message has been posted to the PMC private list,
-the account creation request is made by the
-secretary or assistant secretary who files the ICLA.
-
-Otherwise, the new account request should be made by the
-PMC Chair (or any [ASF Member](https://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#Member)
-if the chair is unavailable).
-
-The PMC chair needs to use the [ASF New Account Request](https://id.apache.org/acreq/pmc-chairs/) form to
-send a new account request. Members may use [ASF New Account Request](https://id.apache.org/acreq/members/) page.
-
-Please supply the [mail archives](https://lists.apache.org/) URL as
-proof of the vote results.
-
-<span id="NewCommitter-EmailTemplates"></span>
-## Email Templates
-
-The following templates are recommended ways to phrase your email
-communications around inviting a new committer, to ensure that everyone
-understands your intent.
-
-* [Committer discussion template](templates/committer-discuss.txt)
-* [Committer vote template](templates/committer-vote.txt)
-* [Committer + PMC vote template](templates/committer-pmc-vote.txt)
-* [Committer vote results template](templates/committer-results.txt)
-* [Committer + PMC vote results template](templates/committer-pmc-results.txt)
-* [Committer invite template](templates/committer-invite.txt)
-* [New committer announcement](templates/committer-announce.txt)
-* [New committer and PMC member announcement](templates/committer-pmc-announce.txt)
-* [Welcome the new committer to your community](templates/committer-welcome.txt)
-
diff --git a/source/newpmcmember.md b/source/newpmcmember.md
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----
-title: Inviting a New PMC member
-tags: ["pmc", "pmcmembers", "election"]
----
-
-This document describes a typical Apache project's process for handling the
-vote to add a new PMC (Project Management Committee) member - when it is
-separate from becoming committer.
-
-Templates mentioned in the process appear [#NewPMCMember-EmailTemplates](later in 
-this document). If your PMC adds automatically committers as PMC members, the process
-for doing both at the same time is described in the [New 
-committer](https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html) advice.
-
-The [Contributor Ladder](https://community.apache.org/contributor-ladder.html) helps 
-explain different roles.
-
-{{% toc %}}
-
-<span id="NewPMCMember-Summary"></span>
-## TL;DR - Inviting a new PMC member
-
-1. Discuss the proposed PMC member.  (Use [this template](templates/pmc-member-discuss.txt).)
-1. If the discussion seems to be going positively, call a vote. (Use
-   [this template](templates/pmc-member-vote.txt).)
-1. Close the vote. (Use [this template](templates/pmc-member-results.txt).)
-1. If the result is positive, invite the new committer. (Use [this
-   template](templates/pmc-member-invite.txt).)
-
-If they accept, then:
-
-1. If the new PMC member is already is already a committer, and they have Apache id,
-   you should grant them appropriate PMC privileges. Use the 
-   [committee roster tool](https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/) (or
-   [ppmc roster tool](https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/) for
-   incubating projects) on Whimsy to update the roster.
-1. Announce the new PMC member. (Use [this
-   template](templates/pmc-member-announce.txt).)
-
-<span id="#NewPMCMemberGuidelines"></span>
-## Guidelines for inviting a new PMC member
-
-Frequently adding new PMC members to your project helps to ensure the
-sustainability and longevity of your project, and brings new ideas into
-the discussion.
-
-As a PMC member, you should frequently look at your
-project's active committers and contributors (including non-code
-participants) and consider whether having their voice in the
-decision-making process would better serve your stakeholders, and
-contribute to the Foundation's mission of providing software for the
-public good.
-
-<span id="NewPMCMember-Discussion"></span>
-### Discussion
-
-Any PMC member may propose a potential PMC member.
-This is **not** the sole responsibility or right of the PMC chair.
-
-We do the discussion and vote on the `private@` mailing list to enable a frank
-discussion. But do keep in mind that if the candidate is elected, they
-will be able to inspect the archives, so keep your discussion respectful
-and professional, with that in mind.
-
-We invite people to join as PMC members, not github ids. It is
-fine to refer to the candidate's github id for context, but the person should
-be referred to by their name. It is not necessary to have their full legal
-name (that will be kept private) but it is important to use their name, as
-they refer to themselves in email. If a person is known only by their github
-id, it is ok to ask them for their real name prior to holding a VOTE.
-
-### Vote
-
-Start a separate [VOTE] thread for each new person. This makes it much easier
-to review the email archives.
-
-We need to be sure that they are committed people with whom we can work.
-They will be our peers. We will have already observed that they are
-committed to the project and graceful toward users and other developers.
-
-Don't wait too long before proposing and don't be too hasty. There is a
-trade-off and something about timeliness. A point is reached where it
-becomes obvious that we should invite them. This encourages them and keeps
-them enthusiastic. If we leave it too long, then we risk them becoming
-disillusioned.
-
-Let the Vote thread run for one week.
-
-A positive result is achieved when there are at least 3 +1 votes and no vetoes,
-as per the [ASF voting process
-document](https://apache.org/foundation/voting).
-
-### Invitation and welcome
-
-After a positive result, record the result on the PMC list with a `[RESULT][VOTE]` subject
-and then invite the candidate. We give candidates a chance to decline PMC membership in private.
-They can post a reply to the PMC mailing list.
-
-After we reach a decision on the `private@` list, and after the steps above, we
-announce the new PMC member on the `dev` list. We can then each follow up with
-our praise and welcome messages in public.
-
-Other notes about the process are available on the main [Apache site](https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmcmember).
-
-<span id="NewPMCMember-EmailTemplates"></span>
-## Email Templates
-
-* [PMC member vote](templates/pmc-member-vote.txt)
-* [PMC member vote results](templates/pmc-member-results.txt)
-* [PMC member invitation](templates/pmc-member-invite.txt)
-* [PMC member announcmement](templates/pmc-member-announce.txt)
-* [PMC member welcome](templates/pmc-member-welcome.txt)
-