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Posted to issues@maven.apache.org by "Dan Fabulich (JIRA)" <ji...@codehaus.org> on 2009/03/21 01:54:13 UTC

[jira] Created: (MNG-4100) Add maven-help-plugin to super pom

Add maven-help-plugin to super pom
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                 Key: MNG-4100
                 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-4100
             Project: Maven 2
          Issue Type: Improvement
    Affects Versions: 2.1.1
            Reporter: Dan Fabulich


A number of users where I work have recently upgraded to Maven 2.1, but when they try to run the maven help plugin they're still on the old 2.0.2 version.  Some local repo weirdness, clearing stuff out takes care of it, but it's not what you want when people are trying to get help.

We should add the maven-help-plugin to the super pom, and update it when new versions of the help plugin are released.

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[jira] Closed: (MNG-4100) Add maven-help-plugin to super pom

Posted by "Dan Fabulich (JIRA)" <ji...@codehaus.org>.
     [ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-4100?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Dan Fabulich closed MNG-4100.
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    Resolution: Won't Fix

ok, you've convinced me.  (for the record I tried -cpu instead of -U, which may have been the cause of some evil)

> Add maven-help-plugin to super pom
> ----------------------------------
>
>                 Key: MNG-4100
>                 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-4100
>             Project: Maven 2
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.1.1
>            Reporter: Dan Fabulich
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> A number of users where I work have recently upgraded to Maven 2.1, but when they try to run the maven help plugin they're still on the old 2.0.2 version.  Some local repo weirdness, clearing stuff out takes care of it, but it's not what you want when people are trying to get help.
> We should add the maven-help-plugin to the super pom, and update it when new versions of the help plugin are released.

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[jira] Commented: (MNG-4100) Add maven-help-plugin to super pom

Posted by "Brett Porter (JIRA)" <ji...@codehaus.org>.
    [ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-4100?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=170615#action_170615 ] 

Brett Porter commented on MNG-4100:
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agreed, we should just fix whatever the root cause of the "local repository weirdness" was IMO.

Are you ok with closing this Dan?

> Add maven-help-plugin to super pom
> ----------------------------------
>
>                 Key: MNG-4100
>                 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-4100
>             Project: Maven 2
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.1.1
>            Reporter: Dan Fabulich
>
> A number of users where I work have recently upgraded to Maven 2.1, but when they try to run the maven help plugin they're still on the old 2.0.2 version.  Some local repo weirdness, clearing stuff out takes care of it, but it's not what you want when people are trying to get help.
> We should add the maven-help-plugin to the super pom, and update it when new versions of the help plugin are released.

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[jira] Commented: (MNG-4100) Add maven-help-plugin to super pom

Posted by "Benjamin Bentmann (JIRA)" <ji...@codehaus.org>.
    [ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-4100?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=170499#action_170499 ] 

Benjamin Bentmann commented on MNG-4100:
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Not sure that's a good idea. To get a newer version of a plugin being invoked ad-hoc from the CLI, one can simply set the CLI flag "-U". These are just two chars that need to be typed once. In contrast, if the Help Plugin was locked in the super POM, users who wanted to use a later release would need to specify org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-help-plugin:version:help, and that not just once but for each invocation. The qualified syntax is clumsy and seems counter-productive for somebody seeking help.

The plugin management in the super POM was meant to bring a little stability to badly managed builds. Considering the hassle required to override the super POM's plugin management for a plugin that is primarily used from the CLI, the super POM is IMHO not the proper place for such plugins.

> Add maven-help-plugin to super pom
> ----------------------------------
>
>                 Key: MNG-4100
>                 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-4100
>             Project: Maven 2
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.1.1
>            Reporter: Dan Fabulich
>
> A number of users where I work have recently upgraded to Maven 2.1, but when they try to run the maven help plugin they're still on the old 2.0.2 version.  Some local repo weirdness, clearing stuff out takes care of it, but it's not what you want when people are trying to get help.
> We should add the maven-help-plugin to the super pom, and update it when new versions of the help plugin are released.

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