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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> on 2012/10/02 16:01:18 UTC
Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 12-10-01, at 08:49 , Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> 5 days have passed and no objections were raised, so I'll start moving
>> this forward.
>
No luck with a JIRA issue asking Infra to create the new mailing list.
Evidently they are moving to a new request system that uses a form
that only Apache Members and Officers can access. So until we
graduate we need to filter mailing list creation requests through a
Mentor or someone else with permissions.
Details for the list request are here, if anyone is able to help:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
Regards,
-Rob
> Great, thanks.
> Louis
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I'm shifting my focus more to
>>> the extended OpenOffice ecosystem rather than day-to-day release-cycle
>>> tasks. One of the things I'd like to push for is reinvigorating the
>>> application development community.
>>>
>>> In the legacy project we supported extensions authors via a dedicated
>>> mailing list, a wiki, its own IRC channel, and of course the
>>> extensions repository website. Today we have very little of that
>>> active.
>>>
>>> I'd like to breath some new life into this part of the ecosystem. Now
>>> that we have a steady heartbeat of releases, both delivered and
>>> planned, and a solid record of end-user downloads, it is easier to
>>> argue the value of developing extensions for OpenOffice. I'd like to
>>> help promote this side of the ecosystem via the following tasks:
>>>
>>> 1) Create a new mailing list: ooo-extensions@incubator.apache.org (or
>>> appdev@incubator.apache.org if we prefer). I'll assert that the
>>> current mailing lists are inadequate for encouraging this community to
>>> thrive. If they interact on ooo-dev then they are bombarded with 99%
>>> irrelevant posts, and if they gather on ooo-users then this will be
>>> disruptive to the end-user subscribers there. Extension authors
>>> really are a distinct sub-community of their own.
>>>
>>> 2) Promote the mailing list via the usual means: website, social
>>> networking, maybe a blog post.
>>>
>>> 3) Try to contact the existing extension authors, to encourage them to
>>> joint the list. I'd try to do this via SourceForge initially, since
>>> they might already have the means to send them all an email.
>>>
>>> 4) Promote AOO extension development in general, by interviews of
>>> extension authors, blog posts, perhaps even a rotating spot on our
>>> website featuring an "extension of the week" (or day).
>>>
>>> 5) Encourage this community to provide feedback to the project and
>>> help maintain the current app dev and SDK documentation, website and
>>> wiki.
>>>
>>> If there are no objections to the above I'll go ahead with step 1 in
>>> 72 hours. I'll need a couple more list moderator volunteers as well.
>>>
>>> And of course, if anyone wants to help with other parts of the above,
>>> or complimentary tasks, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> -Rob
>
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 02/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
> Certainly ooo-api@incubator.apache.org is fine with me if that's what
> we all want now. But I don't know if it is too late.
List names will have to be revised when we graduate anyway, so at that
time we might be able to change it to whatever we agree upon.
Regards,
Andrea.
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Albino B Neto <bi...@apache.org>.
Hi.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> It would have been nice to have known this preference much earlier.
> Certainly ooo-api@incubator.apache.org is fine with me if that's what
> we all want now.
Yeah!
> But I don't know if it is too late. I have zero
> visibility into the process at this point.
I think the staff infra can do so. How not yet created the list.
Albino
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/2/12 5:58 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 11:47:33AM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>> Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Someone else beat me to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
>>>>>
>>>>> The form told me that ooo-appdev@incubator.apache.org already exists.
>>>>
>>>> Was this the final name of the list? A better one could have been
>>>> extensions@ or better api@ (yes, I know it's late, but I've been busy).
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wanted to be compressive of user/developers working with macros,
>>> scripts and extensions. "Application Development" (AppDev) includes
>>> all of them.
>>
>> Yes, it makes sense, but the abbreviation in itself is not meaningful,
>> IMHO, and reminds of http://www.appdev.com/ and other commercial stuff,
>> while api@ sounds more neutral; and OpenOffice.org API users/extension
>> developers are used to it (in order to get an idea of the activity on
>> this area, in OpenOffice.org days, you have to browse api@ mailing list,
>> most of the traffic was there, not in extensions@). So, for the average
>> OpenOffice.org extension/application developer, api@s already makes
>> sense. Besides, an api@ list sound like the proper place to discuss API
>> design and changes (like the ones that should be done in AOO 4.0).
>>
>> Just a question of taste, I could live with appdev :)
>
> me too, but I agree to Ariel and I would have preferred
> api@incubator.openoffice.apache.org as well for the same reasons.
>
It would have been nice to have known this preference much earlier.
Certainly ooo-api@incubator.apache.org is fine with me if that's what
we all want now. But I don't know if it is too late. I have zero
visibility into the process at this point.
-Rob
> Juergen
>
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 10/2/12 5:58 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 11:47:33AM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>> Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone else beat me to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
>>>>>
>>>>> (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
>>>>
>>>> The form told me that ooo-appdev@incubator.apache.org already exists.
>>>
>>> Was this the final name of the list? A better one could have been
>>> extensions@ or better api@ (yes, I know it's late, but I've been busy).
>>>
>>
>> I wanted to be compressive of user/developers working with macros,
>> scripts and extensions. "Application Development" (AppDev) includes
>> all of them.
>
> Yes, it makes sense, but the abbreviation in itself is not meaningful,
> IMHO, and reminds of http://www.appdev.com/ and other commercial stuff,
> while api@ sounds more neutral; and OpenOffice.org API users/extension
> developers are used to it (in order to get an idea of the activity on
> this area, in OpenOffice.org days, you have to browse api@ mailing list,
> most of the traffic was there, not in extensions@). So, for the average
> OpenOffice.org extension/application developer, api@s already makes
> sense. Besides, an api@ list sound like the proper place to discuss API
> design and changes (like the ones that should be done in AOO 4.0).
>
> Just a question of taste, I could live with appdev :)
me too, but I agree to Ariel and I would have preferred
api@incubator.openoffice.apache.org as well for the same reasons.
Juergen
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 11:47:33AM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> > Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
> >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
> >> >>
> >> >> Someone else beat me to it.
> >> >
> >> > Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
> >> >
> >> > (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
> >>
> >> The form told me that ooo-appdev@incubator.apache.org already exists.
> >
> > Was this the final name of the list? A better one could have been
> > extensions@ or better api@ (yes, I know it's late, but I've been busy).
> >
>
> I wanted to be compressive of user/developers working with macros,
> scripts and extensions. "Application Development" (AppDev) includes
> all of them.
Yes, it makes sense, but the abbreviation in itself is not meaningful,
IMHO, and reminds of http://www.appdev.com/ and other commercial stuff,
while api@ sounds more neutral; and OpenOffice.org API users/extension
developers are used to it (in order to get an idea of the activity on
this area, in OpenOffice.org days, you have to browse api@ mailing list,
most of the traffic was there, not in extensions@). So, for the average
OpenOffice.org extension/application developer, api@s already makes
sense. Besides, an api@ list sound like the proper place to discuss API
design and changes (like the ones that should be done in AOO 4.0).
Just a question of taste, I could live with appdev :)
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
<ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:53:45AM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>
>> > Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>> >>
>> >> Someone else beat me to it.
>> >
>> > Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
>> >
>> > (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
>>
>> The form told me that ooo-appdev@incubator.apache.org already exists.
>
> Was this the final name of the list? A better one could have been
> extensions@ or better api@ (yes, I know it's late, but I've been busy).
>
I wanted to be compressive of user/developers working with macros,
scripts and extensions. "Application Development" (AppDev) includes
all of them.
-Rob
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:53:45AM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>
> On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>
> > Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
> >>
> >> Someone else beat me to it.
> >
> > Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
> >
> > (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
>
> The form told me that ooo-appdev@incubator.apache.org already exists.
Was this the final name of the list? A better one could have been
extensions@ or better api@ (yes, I know it's late, but I've been busy).
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>
>> Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>>>
>>> Someone else beat me to it.
>>
>> Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
>>
>> (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
>
> The form told me that ooo-appdev@incubator.apache.org already exists.
>
When I try to subscribe I get this error:
"Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<oo...@incubator.apache.org>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)"
So I don't think it actually exists. Or at least it doesn't think it exists ;-)
Could you try again, but with the name ooo-api@incubator.apache.org?
That seems to be the preferred name.
Thanks!
-Rob
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>>
>> Someone else beat me to it.
>
> Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
>
> (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
The form told me that ooo-appdev@incubator.apache.org already exists.
Regards,
Dave
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request
(Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <da...@apache.org>.
Ross Gardler wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 15:51:04 +0100:
> On 2 October 2012 15:40, Daniel Shahaf <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
> >>
> >> Someone else beat me to it.
> >
> > Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
> >
> > (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
>
> There is no option on the form for requesting @incubator.apache.org
> lists. Is this an oversight or me being dumb?
Click the link at the very bottom.
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Albino B Neto <bi...@apache.org>.
Hi.
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already
> subscribed. So it looks like the list was created. But I expected
> some notification.
+1
Albino
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Ross Gardler
>>> <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2 October 2012 15:40, Daniel Shahaf <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone else beat me to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
>>>>>
>>>>> (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
>>>>
>>>> There is no option on the form for requesting @incubator.apache.org
>>>> lists. Is this an oversight or me being dumb?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I thought the same thing at first. At the bottom of that form there
>>> is a link to another specialized for for podling list requests. Some
>>> extra structure to support the naming conventions:
>>>
>>> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>>
>>> We want ooo-api@i.a.o
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> I submitted this yesterday and it did all of its subversion stuff, but still no list.
>>
>> I was waiting for a message, but I see nothing in private @ i.a.o and nothing in ooo-private?
>>
>
>
> Did anyone ever get a notification on this?
Yes.
>
> I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already
> subscribed. So it looks like the list was created. But I expected
> some notification.
That would come from the TLP. I saw the email yesterday midday shortly after it occurred. Sorry I did not respond to this thread until now. I have been extremely busy and traveled across the continent on Friday and back yesterday. On top of that work release today. And back in the air tomorrow.
Regards,
Dave
>
> -Rob
>
>> I have no time to try to track this down. Would some other good person do so? Thanks!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ross
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>>>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
>>>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>>
RE: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012 2:48 AM
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request
> (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
>
<snip>
>
> Did anyone ever get a notification on this?
>
> I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already subscribed.
> So it looks like the list was created. But I expected some notification.
You were added as an initial moderator, initial moderators are automatically
subscribed by default.
Gav...
>
> -Rob
>
> > I have no time to try to track this down. Would some other good person do
> so? Thanks!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>> Ross
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> >>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
> >>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
> >
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2012/10/9 Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:17:31PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> > Did anyone ever get a notification on this?
> >
> > I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already
> > subscribed. So it looks like the list was created. But I expected
> > some notification.
>
> It would be nice if someone could post a notification on the user forum,
> there is a macro and programming section there, AFAIK.
>
Done for the ES and IT forums. Rob already did it for the EN forum.
Regards
Ricardo
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Albino B Neto <bi...@apache.org>.
Hi.
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
<ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> It would be nice if someone could post a notification on the user forum,
> there is a macro and programming section there, AFAIK.
You can add in forum. (:
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> I was planning on getting the word out on the new list. I can include
> the forums, ooo-dev, ooo-users. Also, I was going to work with
> Roberto to see if we can send a note out to the existing extension
> authors via SourceForge.
>
> On the website I'll add to:
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
Yes. You can add.
I still didn't change in the cvs, I can try.
> Any place else? Maybe update this page:
> http://www.openoffice.org/api/ ?? (It looks like it needs many
> updates. Perhaps something we can discuss on the new mailing list!)
We are to take a look.
Albino
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Roberto Galoppini <rg...@geek.net>.
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>
> wrote:
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > Rob Weir schrieb:
> >
> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
> >> <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:17:31PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Did anyone ever get a notification on this?
> >>>>
> >>>> I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already
> >>>> subscribed. So it looks like the list was created. But I expected
> >>>> some notification.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It would be nice if someone could post a notification on the user
> forum,
> >>> there is a macro and programming section there, AFAIK.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I was planning on getting the word out on the new list. I can include
> >> the forums, ooo-dev, ooo-users. Also, I was going to work with
> >> Roberto to see if we can send a note out to the existing extension
> >> authors via SourceForge.
>
Sure, just let me know what should we tell them.
Roberto
> >
> >
> > Please include ooo-announce too.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On the website I'll add to:
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
> >>
>
> Done.
>
> >> Any place else? Maybe update this page:
> >> http://www.openoffice.org/api/ ?? (It looks like it needs many
> >> updates. Perhaps something we can discuss on the new mailing list!)
> >
>
> Done.
>
> >
> > On http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions_development because it is
> the
> > first result item, if you search for "OpenOffice extension development".
> >
>
> Done.
>
> Next step the mailing lists.
>
> -Rob
>
> > Kind regards
> > Regina
> >
>
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Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> Rob Weir schrieb:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
>> <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:17:31PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Did anyone ever get a notification on this?
>>>>
>>>> I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already
>>>> subscribed. So it looks like the list was created. But I expected
>>>> some notification.
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be nice if someone could post a notification on the user forum,
>>> there is a macro and programming section there, AFAIK.
>>>
>>
>> I was planning on getting the word out on the new list. I can include
>> the forums, ooo-dev, ooo-users. Also, I was going to work with
>> Roberto to see if we can send a note out to the existing extension
>> authors via SourceForge.
>
>
> Please include ooo-announce too.
>
>
>>
>> On the website I'll add to:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
>>
Done.
>> Any place else? Maybe update this page:
>> http://www.openoffice.org/api/ ?? (It looks like it needs many
>> updates. Perhaps something we can discuss on the new mailing list!)
>
Done.
>
> On http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions_development because it is the
> first result item, if you search for "OpenOffice extension development".
>
Done.
Next step the mailing lists.
-Rob
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Rob,
Rob Weir schrieb:
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
> <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:17:31PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> Did anyone ever get a notification on this?
>>>
>>> I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already
>>> subscribed. So it looks like the list was created. But I expected
>>> some notification.
>>
>> It would be nice if someone could post a notification on the user forum,
>> there is a macro and programming section there, AFAIK.
>>
>
> I was planning on getting the word out on the new list. I can include
> the forums, ooo-dev, ooo-users. Also, I was going to work with
> Roberto to see if we can send a note out to the existing extension
> authors via SourceForge.
Please include ooo-announce too.
>
> On the website I'll add to:
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
>
> Any place else? Maybe update this page:
> http://www.openoffice.org/api/ ?? (It looks like it needs many
> updates. Perhaps something we can discuss on the new mailing list!)
On http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions_development because it is
the first result item, if you search for "OpenOffice extension development".
Kind regards
Regina
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
<ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:17:31PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> Did anyone ever get a notification on this?
>>
>> I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already
>> subscribed. So it looks like the list was created. But I expected
>> some notification.
>
> It would be nice if someone could post a notification on the user forum,
> there is a macro and programming section there, AFAIK.
>
I was planning on getting the word out on the new list. I can include
the forums, ooo-dev, ooo-users. Also, I was going to work with
Roberto to see if we can send a note out to the existing extension
authors via SourceForge.
On the website I'll add to:
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
Any place else? Maybe update this page:
http://www.openoffice.org/api/ ?? (It looks like it needs many
updates. Perhaps something we can discuss on the new mailing list!)
-Rob
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:17:31PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> Did anyone ever get a notification on this?
>
> I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already
> subscribed. So it looks like the list was created. But I expected
> some notification.
It would be nice if someone could post a notification on the user forum,
there is a macro and programming section there, AFAIK.
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Ross Gardler
>> <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
>>> On 2 October 2012 15:40, Daniel Shahaf <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone else beat me to it.
>>>>
>>>> Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
>>>>
>>>> (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
>>>
>>> There is no option on the form for requesting @incubator.apache.org
>>> lists. Is this an oversight or me being dumb?
>>>
>>
>> I thought the same thing at first. At the bottom of that form there
>> is a link to another specialized for for podling list requests. Some
>> extra structure to support the naming conventions:
>>
>> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>
>> We want ooo-api@i.a.o
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> I submitted this yesterday and it did all of its subversion stuff, but still no list.
>
> I was waiting for a message, but I see nothing in private @ i.a.o and nothing in ooo-private?
>
Did anyone ever get a notification on this?
I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already
subscribed. So it looks like the list was created. But I expected
some notification.
-Rob
> I have no time to try to track this down. Would some other good person do so? Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>> Ross
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
>>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Ross Gardler
> <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
>> On 2 October 2012 15:40, Daniel Shahaf <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>>>>
>>>> Someone else beat me to it.
>>>
>>> Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
>>>
>>> (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
>>
>> There is no option on the form for requesting @incubator.apache.org
>> lists. Is this an oversight or me being dumb?
>>
>
> I thought the same thing at first. At the bottom of that form there
> is a link to another specialized for for podling list requests. Some
> extra structure to support the naming conventions:
>
> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>
> We want ooo-api@i.a.o
>
> Thanks!
I submitted this yesterday and it did all of its subversion stuff, but still no list.
I was waiting for a message, but I see nothing in private @ i.a.o and nothing in ooo-private?
I have no time to try to track this down. Would some other good person do so? Thanks!
Regards,
Dave
>
> -Rob
>
>
>> Ross
>>
>> --
>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Ross Gardler
<rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> On 2 October 2012 15:40, Daniel Shahaf <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>>>
>>> Someone else beat me to it.
>>
>> Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
>>
>> (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
>
> There is no option on the form for requesting @incubator.apache.org
> lists. Is this an oversight or me being dumb?
>
I thought the same thing at first. At the bottom of that form there
is a link to another specialized for for podling list requests. Some
extra structure to support the naming conventions:
https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
We want ooo-api@i.a.o
Thanks!
-Rob
> Ross
>
> --
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Programme Leader (Open Development)
> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was:
[PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>.
On 2 October 2012 15:40, Daniel Shahaf <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>>
>> Someone else beat me to it.
>
> Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
>
> (private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
There is no option on the form for requesting @incubator.apache.org
lists. Is this an oversight or me being dumb?
Ross
--
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request
(Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <da...@apache.org>.
Dave Fisher wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:16 -0700:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
>
> Someone else beat me to it.
Actually they didn't, as of right now there is no request in the queue
(private@incubator will be emailed a notification once the request is made)
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12-10-01, at 08:49 , Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> 5 days have passed and no objections were raised, so I'll start moving
>>> this forward.
>>
>
> No luck with a JIRA issue asking Infra to create the new mailing list.
> Evidently they are moving to a new request system that uses a form
> that only Apache Members and Officers can access. So until we
> graduate we need to filter mailing list creation requests through a
> Mentor or someone else with permissions.
>
> Details for the list request are here, if anyone is able to help:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5334
Someone else beat me to it.
Regards,
Dave
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
>
>> Great, thanks.
>> Louis
>>
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I'm shifting my focus more to
>>>> the extended OpenOffice ecosystem rather than day-to-day release-cycle
>>>> tasks. One of the things I'd like to push for is reinvigorating the
>>>> application development community.
>>>>
>>>> In the legacy project we supported extensions authors via a dedicated
>>>> mailing list, a wiki, its own IRC channel, and of course the
>>>> extensions repository website. Today we have very little of that
>>>> active.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to breath some new life into this part of the ecosystem. Now
>>>> that we have a steady heartbeat of releases, both delivered and
>>>> planned, and a solid record of end-user downloads, it is easier to
>>>> argue the value of developing extensions for OpenOffice. I'd like to
>>>> help promote this side of the ecosystem via the following tasks:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Create a new mailing list: ooo-extensions@incubator.apache.org (or
>>>> appdev@incubator.apache.org if we prefer). I'll assert that the
>>>> current mailing lists are inadequate for encouraging this community to
>>>> thrive. If they interact on ooo-dev then they are bombarded with 99%
>>>> irrelevant posts, and if they gather on ooo-users then this will be
>>>> disruptive to the end-user subscribers there. Extension authors
>>>> really are a distinct sub-community of their own.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Promote the mailing list via the usual means: website, social
>>>> networking, maybe a blog post.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Try to contact the existing extension authors, to encourage them to
>>>> joint the list. I'd try to do this via SourceForge initially, since
>>>> they might already have the means to send them all an email.
>>>>
>>>> 4) Promote AOO extension development in general, by interviews of
>>>> extension authors, blog posts, perhaps even a rotating spot on our
>>>> website featuring an "extension of the week" (or day).
>>>>
>>>> 5) Encourage this community to provide feedback to the project and
>>>> help maintain the current app dev and SDK documentation, website and
>>>> wiki.
>>>>
>>>> If there are no objections to the above I'll go ahead with step 1 in
>>>> 72 hours. I'll need a couple more list moderator volunteers as well.
>>>>
>>>> And of course, if anyone wants to help with other parts of the above,
>>>> or complimentary tasks, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>