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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Chris Brody <ch...@gmail.com> on 2019/09/25 18:51:37 UTC
Re: Sponsorship of maintenance work on Cordova?
Thanks Julio. I just tried the link and was told to join a waitlist:(
Similar results from Tidelift at this time:
- https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-android
- https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-ios
- https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-cli
- https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-lib
- https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-common
I think this kind of sponsorship is pretty badly needed in order to keep up
with competitive frameworks such as Capacitor and React Native which *do*
seem to have strong corporate backing and other advantages such as:
- no need to wait for a non-standard "device ready" event
- easy-to-understand MIT licensing terms
I do think that Apache Cordova continues to have some major advantages to
offer including:
- Cordova seems to have *much less* JavaScript and native code per
platform than Capacitor and React Native
- Cordova has an extremely strong user community and would be in a very
strong position to drive standardization of plugin APIs, in a similar
fashion to the way that Node.js drives its N-API that works across itself
and Electron
Given these advantages, I would really hate to see Cordova die out due to a
lack of resources so badly needed.
Without sponsorship, I am in a position to contributed *very limited time* to
help with the backlog.
If sponsored, I may not be the most "affordable", but I do think my years
of experience could provide some excellent value for the entire user
community.
Thanks and best regards,
Chris Brody
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbrody/
https://chrisbrody.com/
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:06 PM julio cesar sanchez <jc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Maybe you/they can apply here https://github.com/sponsors
>
>
> El mié., 10 abr. 2019 a las 18:27, Chris Brody (<ch...@gmail.com>)
> escribió:
>
> > This wonderful project is maintained by a bunch of hard-working
> > volunteers. I think the worst issue is that not enough time is devoted
> > to the much needed bug fixes, dependency updates, documentation, and
> > other maintenance work needed.
> >
> > At the same time there is plenty of talent available to do this kind
> > of work if sponsored. I am also available for short-term projects of
> > this nature. I am unfortunately not able to continue with active
> > maintenance for free at this time.
> >
> > Given the level of industrial usage I think it should be no problem to
> > find and manage the corporate sponsorship that could really help keep
> > Cordova at a consistently top-notch quality level.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >
> >
>
Re: Sponsorship of maintenance work on Cordova?
Posted by Chris Brody <ch...@gmail.com>.
Adding 2 more things that I think could use some sponsorship:
* someone to provide improved responsiveness for issues, pending
bugifxes, and unreleased bugfixes via GitHub, mailing list, and Slack
* improve the documentation ** p l e a s e **
On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:25 PM Chris Brody <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Adding CodeFund.io and Bountysource
>
> I am also not so happy that the footer of cordova.apache.org (redirect
> from cordova.io) has a link for sponsorship of *ASF* (Apache) but not
> this project that we have worked so hard to maintain. I have made some
> personal sacrifices for the sake of well-being in the past, looks like
> others have done the same.
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html#FundsGo makes it
> clear that this kind of sponsorship goes to non-code things. I think
> we need to make this clear on our own website, assuming we want to
> keep this link at all.
>
> I am adding another comment that in this day and age, dev
> infrastructure has become extremely affordable and free in many cases.
> Especially for mobile app development which is the obvious purpose of
> this project.
>
> I think we should take the following next steps:
>
> * Raise one or more PRs to either clarify what the existing ASF
> "sponsorship" means or remove it from the Cordova web page
> * raise and pin a new issue in
> https://github.com/apache/cordova/issues with a title such as
> "sustainability" or "sponsorship" where we can raise the
> sustainability issue for public awareness and discussion
> * consider adding a pointer to the home page for the sake of public awareness
> * raise this discussion with the Apache board (I am not sure which part)
> * keep a list of possible fundraising opportunities pending the approval
>
> In terms of personal sacrifices, I have taken multiple client project
> delays in the past in order to help resolve the most urgent issues.
> Unfortunately I am not in a good position to make this kind of a
> sacrifice at this time.
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:13 AM julio cesar sanchez
> <jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Since Cordova is an Apache project, I don't think we can apply to tidelift,
> > we should ask first.
> >
> > For individuals there are the mentioned github sponsors, patreon, searching
> > a company willing to pay a person to work on the project, and probably more
> > that I'm not aware of.
> >
> >
> > El mié., 25 sept. 2019 a las 20:59, Chris Brody (<ch...@gmail.com>)
> > escribió:
> >
> > > Thanks Julio. I just tried the link and was told to join a waitlist:(
> > >
> > > Similar results from Tidelift at this time:
> > >
> > > - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-android
> > > - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-ios
> > > - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-cli
> > > - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-lib
> > > - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-common
> > >
> > > I think this kind of sponsorship is pretty badly needed in order to keep up
> > > with competitive frameworks such as Capacitor and React Native which *do*
> > > seem to have strong corporate backing and other advantages such as:
> > >
> > > - no need to wait for a non-standard "device ready" event
> > > - easy-to-understand MIT licensing terms
> > >
> > > I do think that Apache Cordova continues to have some major advantages to
> > > offer including:
> > >
> > > - Cordova seems to have *much less* JavaScript and native code per
> > > platform than Capacitor and React Native
> > > - Cordova has an extremely strong user community and would be in a very
> > > strong position to drive standardization of plugin APIs, in a similar
> > > fashion to the way that Node.js drives its N-API that works across
> > > itself
> > > and Electron
> > >
> > > Given these advantages, I would really hate to see Cordova die out due to a
> > > lack of resources so badly needed.
> > >
> > > Without sponsorship, I am in a position to contributed *very limited time*
> > > to
> > > help with the backlog.
> > >
> > > If sponsored, I may not be the most "affordable", but I do think my years
> > > of experience could provide some excellent value for the entire user
> > > community.
> > >
> > > Thanks and best regards,
> > >
> > > Chris Brody
> > >
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbrody/
> > >
> > > https://chrisbrody.com/
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:06 PM julio cesar sanchez <
> > > jcesarmobile@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Maybe you/they can apply here https://github.com/sponsors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > El mié., 10 abr. 2019 a las 18:27, Chris Brody (<ch...@gmail.com>)
> > > > escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > This wonderful project is maintained by a bunch of hard-working
> > > > > volunteers. I think the worst issue is that not enough time is devoted
> > > > > to the much needed bug fixes, dependency updates, documentation, and
> > > > > other maintenance work needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > At the same time there is plenty of talent available to do this kind
> > > > > of work if sponsored. I am also available for short-term projects of
> > > > > this nature. I am unfortunately not able to continue with active
> > > > > maintenance for free at this time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given the level of industrial usage I think it should be no problem to
> > > > > find and manage the corporate sponsorship that could really help keep
> > > > > Cordova at a consistently top-notch quality level.
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Re: Sponsorship of maintenance work on Cordova?
Posted by Chris Brody <ch...@gmail.com>.
Adding CodeFund.io and Bountysource
I am also not so happy that the footer of cordova.apache.org (redirect
from cordova.io) has a link for sponsorship of *ASF* (Apache) but not
this project that we have worked so hard to maintain. I have made some
personal sacrifices for the sake of well-being in the past, looks like
others have done the same.
http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html#FundsGo makes it
clear that this kind of sponsorship goes to non-code things. I think
we need to make this clear on our own website, assuming we want to
keep this link at all.
I am adding another comment that in this day and age, dev
infrastructure has become extremely affordable and free in many cases.
Especially for mobile app development which is the obvious purpose of
this project.
I think we should take the following next steps:
* Raise one or more PRs to either clarify what the existing ASF
"sponsorship" means or remove it from the Cordova web page
* raise and pin a new issue in
https://github.com/apache/cordova/issues with a title such as
"sustainability" or "sponsorship" where we can raise the
sustainability issue for public awareness and discussion
* consider adding a pointer to the home page for the sake of public awareness
* raise this discussion with the Apache board (I am not sure which part)
* keep a list of possible fundraising opportunities pending the approval
In terms of personal sacrifices, I have taken multiple client project
delays in the past in order to help resolve the most urgent issues.
Unfortunately I am not in a good position to make this kind of a
sacrifice at this time.
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:13 AM julio cesar sanchez
<jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Since Cordova is an Apache project, I don't think we can apply to tidelift,
> we should ask first.
>
> For individuals there are the mentioned github sponsors, patreon, searching
> a company willing to pay a person to work on the project, and probably more
> that I'm not aware of.
>
>
> El mié., 25 sept. 2019 a las 20:59, Chris Brody (<ch...@gmail.com>)
> escribió:
>
> > Thanks Julio. I just tried the link and was told to join a waitlist:(
> >
> > Similar results from Tidelift at this time:
> >
> > - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-android
> > - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-ios
> > - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-cli
> > - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-lib
> > - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-common
> >
> > I think this kind of sponsorship is pretty badly needed in order to keep up
> > with competitive frameworks such as Capacitor and React Native which *do*
> > seem to have strong corporate backing and other advantages such as:
> >
> > - no need to wait for a non-standard "device ready" event
> > - easy-to-understand MIT licensing terms
> >
> > I do think that Apache Cordova continues to have some major advantages to
> > offer including:
> >
> > - Cordova seems to have *much less* JavaScript and native code per
> > platform than Capacitor and React Native
> > - Cordova has an extremely strong user community and would be in a very
> > strong position to drive standardization of plugin APIs, in a similar
> > fashion to the way that Node.js drives its N-API that works across
> > itself
> > and Electron
> >
> > Given these advantages, I would really hate to see Cordova die out due to a
> > lack of resources so badly needed.
> >
> > Without sponsorship, I am in a position to contributed *very limited time*
> > to
> > help with the backlog.
> >
> > If sponsored, I may not be the most "affordable", but I do think my years
> > of experience could provide some excellent value for the entire user
> > community.
> >
> > Thanks and best regards,
> >
> > Chris Brody
> >
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbrody/
> >
> > https://chrisbrody.com/
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:06 PM julio cesar sanchez <
> > jcesarmobile@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe you/they can apply here https://github.com/sponsors
> > >
> > >
> > > El mié., 10 abr. 2019 a las 18:27, Chris Brody (<ch...@gmail.com>)
> > > escribió:
> > >
> > > > This wonderful project is maintained by a bunch of hard-working
> > > > volunteers. I think the worst issue is that not enough time is devoted
> > > > to the much needed bug fixes, dependency updates, documentation, and
> > > > other maintenance work needed.
> > > >
> > > > At the same time there is plenty of talent available to do this kind
> > > > of work if sponsored. I am also available for short-term projects of
> > > > this nature. I am unfortunately not able to continue with active
> > > > maintenance for free at this time.
> > > >
> > > > Given the level of industrial usage I think it should be no problem to
> > > > find and manage the corporate sponsorship that could really help keep
> > > > Cordova at a consistently top-notch quality level.
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: Sponsorship of maintenance work on Cordova?
Posted by julio cesar sanchez <jc...@gmail.com>.
Since Cordova is an Apache project, I don't think we can apply to tidelift,
we should ask first.
For individuals there are the mentioned github sponsors, patreon, searching
a company willing to pay a person to work on the project, and probably more
that I'm not aware of.
El mié., 25 sept. 2019 a las 20:59, Chris Brody (<ch...@gmail.com>)
escribió:
> Thanks Julio. I just tried the link and was told to join a waitlist:(
>
> Similar results from Tidelift at this time:
>
> - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-android
> - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-ios
> - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-cli
> - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-lib
> - https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/npm/cordova-common
>
> I think this kind of sponsorship is pretty badly needed in order to keep up
> with competitive frameworks such as Capacitor and React Native which *do*
> seem to have strong corporate backing and other advantages such as:
>
> - no need to wait for a non-standard "device ready" event
> - easy-to-understand MIT licensing terms
>
> I do think that Apache Cordova continues to have some major advantages to
> offer including:
>
> - Cordova seems to have *much less* JavaScript and native code per
> platform than Capacitor and React Native
> - Cordova has an extremely strong user community and would be in a very
> strong position to drive standardization of plugin APIs, in a similar
> fashion to the way that Node.js drives its N-API that works across
> itself
> and Electron
>
> Given these advantages, I would really hate to see Cordova die out due to a
> lack of resources so badly needed.
>
> Without sponsorship, I am in a position to contributed *very limited time*
> to
> help with the backlog.
>
> If sponsored, I may not be the most "affordable", but I do think my years
> of experience could provide some excellent value for the entire user
> community.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
>
> Chris Brody
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbrody/
>
> https://chrisbrody.com/
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:06 PM julio cesar sanchez <
> jcesarmobile@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe you/they can apply here https://github.com/sponsors
> >
> >
> > El mié., 10 abr. 2019 a las 18:27, Chris Brody (<ch...@gmail.com>)
> > escribió:
> >
> > > This wonderful project is maintained by a bunch of hard-working
> > > volunteers. I think the worst issue is that not enough time is devoted
> > > to the much needed bug fixes, dependency updates, documentation, and
> > > other maintenance work needed.
> > >
> > > At the same time there is plenty of talent available to do this kind
> > > of work if sponsored. I am also available for short-term projects of
> > > this nature. I am unfortunately not able to continue with active
> > > maintenance for free at this time.
> > >
> > > Given the level of industrial usage I think it should be no problem to
> > > find and manage the corporate sponsorship that could really help keep
> > > Cordova at a consistently top-notch quality level.
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>