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Posted to fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org by Glen Mazza <gr...@yahoo.com> on 2004/07/26 13:16:18 UTC
(Copyright question) Re: Committing documentation
I believe the key word below is "transferable", i.e.,
before checking any work in, it still needs to be
copyright "The Apache Software Foundation" at the time
of it being cvs committed. Dirk-Willem, might you
know more about this? (Original comments in [1]
below.)
But I noticed Simon already updated it to "The
Authors"--all it needs to be next (I think) is ASF and
we're done:
http://www.leverkruid.nl/FOP/documentation-html/index.html
We already have a dubious copyright notice in one of
our source files [2, lines 36-37], dubious because the
file has changed so many times by other people over
the years that it is unknown whether the copyright
holder actually still "owns" any of the code. I'm
inclined against adding non-ASF copyrighted work to
our repository, because once you have it there, it is
difficult to get rid of, no matter how out-of-date
that copyright gets. If anyone is not ready to
transfer the copyright to their work, then it
shouldn't be in our repository.
Glen
[1]
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=109079517313375&w=2
[2]
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/render/rtf/ListAttributesConverter.java?annotate=1.7
--- Christian Geisert <ch...@isu-gmbh.de>
wrote:
> Glen Mazza wrote:
> > Simon, a word of caution*, I believe that anything
> > that goes into the Apache repository will need to
> be
> > copyright The Apache Software Foundation and only
> The
> > Apache Software Foundation. (Just look at the
> bottom
>
> No, the contribution is covered by the CLA (which
> you should have read
> and signed too ;-)
>
> See http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas, paragraph
> 2:
>
> You hereby grant to the Foundation a
> non-exclusive, irrevocable,
> worldwide, no-charge, transferable copyright
> license to use,
> execute, prepare derivative works of, and
> distribute (internally
> and externally, in object code and, if included
> in your
> Contributions, source code form) your
> Contributions. Except for the
> rights granted to the Foundation in this
> paragraph, You reserve all
> right, title and interest in and to your
> Contributions.
>
>
> Christian
>
Re: (Copyright question) Re: Committing documentation
Posted by Glen Mazza <gr...@yahoo.com>.
Simon,
My past emails on this topic had a rude tone to it
that I regret...I apologize for that. I just didn't
know how things should be copyrighted once they're in
the repository and just wanted to make sure we are
doing things properly. Thanks for your work
(especially since it's in Docbook ;) and I look
forward to helping out in keeping it up-to-date.
Glen
--- Simon Pepping <sp...@leverkruid.nl> wrote:
> I completely agree with Christian's comment and
> extract of the CLA. I
> have signed it and thereby it applies to any work I
> commit to FOP's
> repository. That is my intention with the
> documentation.
>
> I wrote 'copyright the Authors', with the idea that
> every contributor
> adds his name as an author. But that is indeed
> probably not right. I
> will change it to ASF. The files themselves already
> have the Apache
> License 2 text.
>
> Regards, Simon
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:16:18AM -0700, Glen Mazza
> wrote:
> > I believe the key word below is "transferable",
> i.e.,
> > before checking any work in, it still needs to be
> > copyright "The Apache Software Foundation" at the
> time
> > of it being cvs committed. Dirk-Willem, might you
> > know more about this? (Original comments in [1]
> > below.)
> >
> > But I noticed Simon already updated it to "The
> > Authors"--all it needs to be next (I think) is ASF
> and
> > we're done:
> >
>
http://www.leverkruid.nl/FOP/documentation-html/index.html
> >
> > We already have a dubious copyright notice in one
> of
> > our source files [2, lines 36-37], dubious because
> the
> > file has changed so many times by other people
> over
> > the years that it is unknown whether the copyright
> > holder actually still "owns" any of the code. I'm
> > inclined against adding non-ASF copyrighted work
> to
> > our repository, because once you have it there, it
> is
> > difficult to get rid of, no matter how out-of-date
> > that copyright gets. If anyone is not ready to
> > transfer the copyright to their work, then it
> > shouldn't be in our repository.
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > [1]
> >
>
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=109079517313375&w=2
> >
> > [2]
> >
>
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/render/rtf/ListAttributesConverter.java?annotate=1.7
> >
> >
> > --- Christian Geisert
> <ch...@isu-gmbh.de>
> > wrote:
> > > Glen Mazza wrote:
> > > > Simon, a word of caution*, I believe that
> anything
> > > > that goes into the Apache repository will need
> to
> > > be
> > > > copyright The Apache Software Foundation and
> only
> > > The
> > > > Apache Software Foundation. (Just look at the
> > > bottom
> > >
> > > No, the contribution is covered by the CLA
> (which
> > > you should have read
> > > and signed too ;-)
> > >
> > > See http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas,
> paragraph
> > > 2:
> > >
> > > You hereby grant to the Foundation a
> > > non-exclusive, irrevocable,
> > > worldwide, no-charge, transferable copyright
> > > license to use,
> > > execute, prepare derivative works of, and
> > > distribute (internally
> > > and externally, in object code and, if
> included
> > > in your
> > > Contributions, source code form) your
> > > Contributions. Except for the
> > > rights granted to the Foundation in this
> > > paragraph, You reserve all
> > > right, title and interest in and to your
> > > Contributions.
> > >
> > >
> > > Christian
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Simon Pepping
> home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl
>
>
Re: (Copyright question) Re: Committing documentation
Posted by Simon Pepping <sp...@leverkruid.nl>.
I completely agree with Christian's comment and extract of the CLA. I
have signed it and thereby it applies to any work I commit to FOP's
repository. That is my intention with the documentation.
I wrote 'copyright the Authors', with the idea that every contributor
adds his name as an author. But that is indeed probably not right. I
will change it to ASF. The files themselves already have the Apache
License 2 text.
Regards, Simon
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:16:18AM -0700, Glen Mazza wrote:
> I believe the key word below is "transferable", i.e.,
> before checking any work in, it still needs to be
> copyright "The Apache Software Foundation" at the time
> of it being cvs committed. Dirk-Willem, might you
> know more about this? (Original comments in [1]
> below.)
>
> But I noticed Simon already updated it to "The
> Authors"--all it needs to be next (I think) is ASF and
> we're done:
> http://www.leverkruid.nl/FOP/documentation-html/index.html
>
> We already have a dubious copyright notice in one of
> our source files [2, lines 36-37], dubious because the
> file has changed so many times by other people over
> the years that it is unknown whether the copyright
> holder actually still "owns" any of the code. I'm
> inclined against adding non-ASF copyrighted work to
> our repository, because once you have it there, it is
> difficult to get rid of, no matter how out-of-date
> that copyright gets. If anyone is not ready to
> transfer the copyright to their work, then it
> shouldn't be in our repository.
>
> Glen
>
> [1]
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=109079517313375&w=2
>
> [2]
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/render/rtf/ListAttributesConverter.java?annotate=1.7
>
>
> --- Christian Geisert <ch...@isu-gmbh.de>
> wrote:
> > Glen Mazza wrote:
> > > Simon, a word of caution*, I believe that anything
> > > that goes into the Apache repository will need to
> > be
> > > copyright The Apache Software Foundation and only
> > The
> > > Apache Software Foundation. (Just look at the
> > bottom
> >
> > No, the contribution is covered by the CLA (which
> > you should have read
> > and signed too ;-)
> >
> > See http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas, paragraph
> > 2:
> >
> > You hereby grant to the Foundation a
> > non-exclusive, irrevocable,
> > worldwide, no-charge, transferable copyright
> > license to use,
> > execute, prepare derivative works of, and
> > distribute (internally
> > and externally, in object code and, if included
> > in your
> > Contributions, source code form) your
> > Contributions. Except for the
> > rights granted to the Foundation in this
> > paragraph, You reserve all
> > right, title and interest in and to your
> > Contributions.
> >
> >
> > Christian
> >
>
--
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl