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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> on 2012/06/11 22:58:21 UTC
official logos ???
I'm starting to do some work on the "Distributor FAQ" (up soonish on the
wiki for comments) and have come to a bit of an issue with regard to the
actual display and download areas of our "official" logos. (If this has
been discussed before, please excuse me here.)
On the website, the "official" logo is here:
http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
However, we are no longer using this, yet I think it's still considered
an "official" logo.
We have a reference to the new "Get It Here"
on our Trademarks page
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html
which references the "project" directory
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png
So, two questions...
-- should any logos that we currently use on
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.x+-+Logo+Explorations
be moved to the project images area as well.
I'm thinking only of the one we currently use on the web server, and
maybe the older one as well.
-- do we want to change
http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
only the logos that are *in* the project images area.
Thanks.
--
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MzK
"There's no crying in baseball!"
-- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Graham Lauder <yo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 06/13/2012 03:45 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > > Hi Kay,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 08:48:58AM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > >> yeah-- I was definitely thinking of extending the /images/AOO_logos
> > >> to house JUST the logos...
> > >
> > > ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg is not
> > > really an svg file, but an svg with a raster image embedded.
> > >
> > > Can you upload the original SVG file for this,
> >
> > well this is all that I found...so sorry. Not being a graphics guru, I
> > really don't know how to differentiate these things, and well, "gimp"
> > was happy with it, so...I'll see what I can do. I will contact the
> > designer.
> >
> > and for the orb as seen
> >
> > > in ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/orb.jpg ? (I had to take it from
> > > the facebook page, because I didn't find anywhare ;) ).
> > > This orb is not ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
> >
> > oh boy! you are definitely correct on this one! :(
> >
> > I should have put this one instead...
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/symbol_color.png
> >
> > OK, I'll change this...
> >
> > The one you have is nice...the designer must have received permission to
> > create it from the "real" trademarked orb so perhaps we can track this
> > down.
> >
> > > Regards
>
>
> Hi Kay,
>
> Probably the best images available of the orb are at:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html
>
> This was Stella's work for the last brand refresh which is where the orb
> came
> into use.
>
OK, thanks...
>
> Cheers
> GL
>
>
>
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"There's no crying in baseball!"
-- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net> wrote:
> Le lun. 18 juin 2012 00:54:08 CEST, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> a écrit :
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't see any clear direction for the logos.
>>
>>
>> Can you be more specific? What do you think needs clarification?
>
>
> Current branding is a mix of the refresh set with the orb (Start center,
> splash screen, taskbar, about, ...) and former icons (MIME, applications).
> It's rather strange because there is a gap between the new icons and the old
> ones (the old set is quite old fashioned IMHO).
>
Yes. The rebranding was only partially applied in AOO 3.4. There is
more work to be done here.
>
>
>> We had a logo contest and vote for AOO 3.4.0. I think AOO 3.4.1 will
>> use the same logo.
>
>
> I don't remember any vote at all. I've found that old thread dated end of
> last year: old colored vs new monochrome icons. Rather long so will have a
> look at it tomorrow. But if there is a message that concludes it, it would
> be great!
>
This was a more recent set of threads, in early April.
> I've checked the following page and its child pages:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Branding+Planning
> Only the product logo is clearly mentioned as "voted".
>
> NB: will review the "old colored vs new monochrome icons" topic and either
> revive it or create a new topic. Target being to make progress on the MIME
> and application icons (at least for AOO 4).
> For the record:
> Old icons: http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo30MimeType.html
> Refresh icons: http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html
> LibO icons (worth a look IMHO):
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals
>
This was not about the toolbar icons, but about website logo. Maybe
we are talking about two different things?
-Rob
> Hagar
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>.
Le lun. 18 juin 2012 00:54:08 CEST, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> a écrit :
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net> wrote:
>> I don't see any clear direction for the logos.
>
> Can you be more specific? What do you think needs clarification?
Current branding is a mix of the refresh set with the orb (Start center, splash screen, taskbar, about, ...) and former icons (MIME, applications).
It's rather strange because there is a gap between the new icons and the old ones (the old set is quite old fashioned IMHO).
> We had a logo contest and vote for AOO 3.4.0. I think AOO 3.4.1 will
> use the same logo.
I don't remember any vote at all. I've found that old thread dated end of last year: old colored vs new monochrome icons. Rather long so will have a look at it tomorrow. But if there is a message that concludes it, it would be great!
I've checked the following page and its child pages: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Branding+Planning
Only the product logo is clearly mentioned as "voted".
NB: will review the "old colored vs new monochrome icons" topic and either revive it or create a new topic. Target being to make progress on the MIME and application icons (at least for AOO 4).
For the record:
Old icons: http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo30MimeType.html
Refresh icons: http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html
LibO icons (worth a look IMHO): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals
Hagar
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net> wrote:
> Le jeu. 14 juin 2012 03:18:36 CEST, Graham Lauder <yo...@apache.org> a écrit :
>
>
>>
>> Probably the best images available of the orb are at:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html
>>
>> This was Stella's work for the last brand refresh which is where the orb
>> came
>> into use.
>
>
> +1.
>
> I don't see any clear direction for the logos.
Can you be more specific? What do you think needs clarification?
> I've made some tweaking for the download logo. I think we need to be clear
> and simple, avoid too much colors and background that could not fit with the
> rest of the page. See:
> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=102&t=54452#p238128
> Is it ok or not?
>
> Can we still use the refresh set of icons (above)?
Looks fine to me. You have the correct name and the TM. The
Community Forums are part of the overall OpenOffice website, so you
don't need any special permission to use the logo on the website.
> Do we intend to have a discussion + proposals/contest + vote for the visual
> identity of the product?
>
We had a logo contest and vote for AOO 3.4.0. I think AOO 3.4.1 will
use the same logo.
In any case, a change of the logo is like any other change to the
product. For non-controversial changes, JFDI. If you are not sure if
it is controversial, then seek Lazy Consensus with a proposal and
72-hours. If there are competing proposals, then we can discuss, and
if necessary, as a last resort we can vote.
> Hagar
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>wrote:
> Le jeu. 14 juin 2012 03:18:36 CEST, Graham Lauder <yo...@apache.org> a écrit
> :
>
>
>
>> Probably the best images available of the orb are at:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/ui/**VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html<http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html>
>>
>> This was Stella's work for the last brand refresh which is where the orb
>> came
>> into use.
>>
>
> +1.
>
> I don't see any clear direction for the logos.
> I've made some tweaking for the download logo. I think we need to be clear
> and simple, avoid too much colors and background that could not fit with
> the rest of the page. See: http://user.services.**openoffice.org/en/forum/
> **viewtopic.php?f=102&t=54452#**p238128<http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=102&t=54452#p238128>
> Is it ok or not?
>
> Can we still use the refresh set of icons (above)?
> Do we intend to have a discussion + proposals/contest + vote for the
> visual identity of the product?
>
> Hagar\
>
Hagar --
I think such a discussion would be a great idea. Please feel free to start
one.
In this thread though, I badly got confused our trademarks -- "Apache
OpenOffice", "OpenOffice.org" and things that contain our trademarks --
some of the logos, for example. I apologize if I totally confused everyone
over this. The logos themselves are NOT trademarks but contain the
trademarks.
Anyway, yes, please start on a thread on whatever imaging you think we need
consensus on. This would help a lot!
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MzK
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Nightingale."
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Re: official logos ???
Posted by Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>.
Le jeu. 14 juin 2012 03:18:36 CEST, Graham Lauder <yo...@apache.org> a écrit :
> Probably the best images available of the orb are at:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html
>
> This was Stella's work for the last brand refresh which is where the orb came
> into use.
+1.
I don't see any clear direction for the logos.
I've made some tweaking for the download logo. I think we need to be clear and simple, avoid too much colors and background that could not fit with the rest of the page. See: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=102&t=54452#p238128
Is it ok or not?
Can we still use the refresh set of icons (above)?
Do we intend to have a discussion + proposals/contest + vote for the visual identity of the product?
Hagar
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Graham Lauder <yo...@apache.org>.
> On 06/13/2012 03:45 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > Hi Kay,
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 08:48:58AM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >> yeah-- I was definitely thinking of extending the /images/AOO_logos
> >> to house JUST the logos...
> >
> > ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg is not
> > really an svg file, but an svg with a raster image embedded.
> >
> > Can you upload the original SVG file for this,
>
> well this is all that I found...so sorry. Not being a graphics guru, I
> really don't know how to differentiate these things, and well, "gimp"
> was happy with it, so...I'll see what I can do. I will contact the
> designer.
>
> and for the orb as seen
>
> > in ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/orb.jpg ? (I had to take it from
> > the facebook page, because I didn't find anywhare ;) ).
> > This orb is not ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>
> oh boy! you are definitely correct on this one! :(
>
> I should have put this one instead...
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/symbol_color.png
>
> OK, I'll change this...
>
> The one you have is nice...the designer must have received permission to
> create it from the "real" trademarked orb so perhaps we can track this
> down.
>
> > Regards
Hi Kay,
Probably the best images available of the orb are at:
http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html
This was Stella's work for the last brand refresh which is where the orb came
into use.
Cheers
GL
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On 06/13/2012 09:11 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:45:49PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>> yeah-- I was definitely thinking of extending the /images/AOO_logos
>>>> to house JUST the logos...
>>>
>>> ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg is not
>>> really an svg file, but an svg with a raster image embedded.
>>>
>>> Can you upload the original SVG file for this,
>>
>>
>> What I used was from this page:
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=27834483
>>
>> this svg...
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/AOO+Logo+SVG.svg
>>
>> Is this not right?
>
> You have two ways to test if this is a true svg graphic or a raster
> graphic:
>
> - open the file with an SVG editor or viewer, zoom the picture: if this
> svg has only a raster embedded, then when zooming you get to see the
> image individual pixels as squares
> - open the file with a plain text editor: in a real svg graphic you see
> only mark up code; if a raster image is embedded, you see the image
> content, encoded. This is the case with the image of the link from
> above:
>
> <image x="1100" y="7000" width="25401" height="8461" xlink:href="data:image/png;base64,
>
> and you see all the image content encoded. So it is a raster image
> embedded on an svg file, not a real svg graphic. You can zoom the real
> vector graphics without quality loss, you don't get "pixel squares"; of
> course, wikipedia explains it better than me ;)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raster_graphics
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_graphics
>
> With the original SVG graphic it's possible to generate raster graphics
> of any size without quality loss.
>
>
> Regards
Ariel, thanks...
I won't go into what happened when I tried to deal with the svg file a
day or so ago. I am NOT a graphics person...I'll work on this some more.
I can always learn new things as long as there's no risk of bone
fractures! :)
--
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MzK
"There's no crying in baseball!"
-- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:45:49PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > > yeah-- I was definitely thinking of extending the /images/AOO_logos
> > > to house JUST the logos...
> >
> > ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg is not
> > really an svg file, but an svg with a raster image embedded.
> >
> > Can you upload the original SVG file for this,
>
>
> What I used was from this page:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=27834483
>
> this svg...
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/AOO+Logo+SVG.svg
>
> Is this not right?
You have two ways to test if this is a true svg graphic or a raster
graphic:
- open the file with an SVG editor or viewer, zoom the picture: if this
svg has only a raster embedded, then when zooming you get to see the
image individual pixels as squares
- open the file with a plain text editor: in a real svg graphic you see
only mark up code; if a raster image is embedded, you see the image
content, encoded. This is the case with the image of the link from
above:
<image x="1100" y="7000" width="25401" height="8461" xlink:href="data:image/png;base64,
and you see all the image content encoded. So it is a raster image
embedded on an svg file, not a real svg graphic. You can zoom the real
vector graphics without quality loss, you don't get "pixel squares"; of
course, wikipedia explains it better than me ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raster_graphics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_graphics
With the original SVG graphic it's possible to generate raster graphics
of any size without quality loss.
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
Ariel--
HI, more on this...see below...
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
<ar...@apache.org>wrote:
> Hi Kay,
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 08:48:58AM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >
> > yeah-- I was definitely thinking of extending the /images/AOO_logos
> > to house JUST the logos...
>
> ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg is not
> really an svg file, but an svg with a raster image embedded.
>
> Can you upload the original SVG file for this,
What I used was from this page:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=27834483
this svg...
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/AOO+Logo+SVG.svg
Is this not right?
After you sent this I checked that I hadn't actually posted a smaller
rendition (via gimp inadvertently and saved it)...
Anyway, if it isn't right, I'll need to get back in touch with
Michael Acevedo
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/%7Evea1083>
> and for the orb as seen
> in ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/orb.jpg ? (I had to take it from
> the facebook page, because I didn't find anywhare ;) ).
> This orb is not ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"There's no crying in baseball!"
-- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On 06/13/2012 03:45 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi Kay,
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 08:48:58AM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>> yeah-- I was definitely thinking of extending the /images/AOO_logos
>> to house JUST the logos...
>
> ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg is not
> really an svg file, but an svg with a raster image embedded.
>
> Can you upload the original SVG file for this,
well this is all that I found...so sorry. Not being a graphics guru, I
really don't know how to differentiate these things, and well, "gimp"
was happy with it, so...I'll see what I can do. I will contact the designer.
and for the orb as seen
> in ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/orb.jpg ? (I had to take it from
> the facebook page, because I didn't find anywhare ;) ).
> This orb is not ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
oh boy! you are definitely correct on this one! :(
I should have put this one instead...
http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/symbol_color.png
OK, I'll change this...
The one you have is nice...the designer must have received permission to
create it from the "real" trademarked orb so perhaps we can track this
down.
>
>
> Regards
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"There's no crying in baseball!"
-- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi Kay,
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 08:48:58AM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
> yeah-- I was definitely thinking of extending the /images/AOO_logos
> to house JUST the logos...
ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg is not
really an svg file, but an svg with a raster image embedded.
Can you upload the original SVG file for this, and for the orb as seen
in ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/orb.jpg ? (I had to take it from
the facebook page, because I didn't find anywhare ;) ).
This orb is not ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On 06/11/2012 06:41 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> KG01 - See comments at end of thread.
>
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2012, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/11/2012 02:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm starting to do some work on the "Distributor FAQ" (up soonish on
>> the
>>>>> wiki for comments) and have come to a bit of an issue with regard to
>> the
>>>>> actual display and download areas of our "official" logos. (If this has
>>>>> been
>>>>> discussed before, please excuse me here.)
>>>>>
>>>>> On the website, the "official" logo is here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is a 300x150px PNG file. So I believe that is only a copy of
>>>> our official logo. The original logo should be a vector image, like
>>>> SVG.
>>>
>>>
>>> well...OK, I don't know where it is :/
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> However, we are no longer using this, yet I think it's still considered
>>>>> an
>>>>> "official" logo.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't that logo used in OOo 3.3, and we continue to distribute OOo 3.3?
>>>
>>>
>>> ah yes...you are correct
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We have a reference to the new "Get It Here"
>>>>> on our Trademarks page
>>>>>
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html
>>>>>
>>>>> which references the "project" directory
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So that logo is a small PNG as well, not the original source. Drew
>>>> posted the source file on the wiki.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, two questions...
>>>>>
>>>>> -- should any logos that we currently use on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.x+-+Logo+Explorations
>>>>>
>>>>> be moved to the project images area as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking only of the one we currently use on the web server, and
>>>>> maybe
>>>>> the older one as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- do we want to change
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
>>>>>
>>>>> only the logos that are *in* the project images area.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK. So as you point out, what we have today is a mess ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> yes, and I don't like messes... :)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd recommend that we aim for a single location for the image source
>>>> files. So, we have a place where we can keep the original source
>>>> files for any important logos. This would include our current
>>>> "official" logos, our accessory logos like the "Get it here!" logo, as
>>>> well as source for the legacy logos. Why bother with legacy logos?
>>>> Because they may have graphical elements that we want to reuse in
>>>> future logos. If we can't find source for a particular logo, then we
>>>> store the highest resolution, least compressed version of the bitmap
>>>> image that we can find.
>>>>
>>>> If we have the original source collected in some consistent way then I
>>>> think we can be less concerned about the rasterized versions. There
>>>> might be several places where these are stored. (And they are not so
>>>> much "stored" as "used".) For example, one might be on the website
>>>> (ooo-site in Subversion) while another copy might be in a product
>>>> directory because it is used in the UI. Another version migLooking at
>> ooo-site:
>>
>> The command: find . -name '*.svg'
>>
>> returns:
>>
>> ./content/bibliographic/mindmap/OOoBib.svg
>> ./content/de/downloads/ooo-download-icons.svg
>> ./content/documentation/img/pdf.svg
>> ./content/documentation/img/emblem-information.svg
>> ./content/pap/Curflag.svg
>> ./content/pap/an-curac.gif.svg
>> ./content/pap/an-curac.svg
>> ./content/pap/Cur-flag.svg
>> ./content/pap/Netherlands-Antilles-flag.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/wwwprzycisk2.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/180x60_5.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/get_legal_200x100.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/podrecznik.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/web_button_get_legal_border_caps_pl2.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/web_button_get_legal_border_caps_pl.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/get_legal_200x100_noshadow.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/your_choice_200x100.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/pionowy.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/plnlclogo.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/wwwprzycisk1.svg
>> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/125x50_5.svg
>> ./content/sl/pics/ooo_get_legal_sl.svg
>> ./content/sl/pics/appunti_architetto_franc_01.svg
>> ./content/sl/pics/2.0_icons.svg
>> ./content/marketing/ooocon2006/OOoConLyon.svg
>> ./content/marketing/ooocon2005/logos/Municipality_Trieste.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_CD_label_nc.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_CD_envelope_nc.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_DVD_envelope_nc.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_CD_paper_envelope_nc.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-paper-osi_min.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-label-osi_min.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-dvd-envelope-osi.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-osi.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-label-osi.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-paper-osi.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-osi_min.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-dvd-envelope-osi_min.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-col-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-col-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-black-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo2-logo(CMYK-2color-outlines).svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-black-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-col-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-col-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-black-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/3.0/rgb/ooo-3-logo-col-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/3.0/grey/ooo-3-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/3.0/mono/ooo-3-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-black-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main_tm/col/ooo-main_tm-logo-col-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main_tm/grey/ooo-main_tm-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main_tm/mono/ooo-main_tm-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-col-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-black-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/version3/col/ooo-3-logo-col-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/version3/grey/ooo-3-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/version3/mono/ooo-3-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main-logo-col-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-col-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-black-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/col/ooo-main-logo-col-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/grey/ooo-main-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>>
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/mono/ooo-main-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>> ./content/trademark/symbol_color.svg
>> ./content/trademark/logo_color.svg
>> ./content/it/contribuire/images/dashboard.svg
>> ./content/it/contribuire/images/ok.svg
>> ./content/it/contribuire/images/dashboard (5).svg
>> ./content/it/contribuire/images/lock (1).svg
>> ./content/it/contribuire/images/lock.svg
>> ./content/it/contribuire/images/ok (3).svg
>> ./content/it/linguistico/images/flagworld.svg
>> ./content/it/linguistico/images/dictionary.svg
>> ./content/it/linguistico/images/thesaurus.svg
>> ./content/it/linguistico/images/langpack.svg
>> ./content/it/linguistico/images/sillabus.svg
>> ./content/it/linguistico/images/OOoVoc.svg
>> ./content/it/stampa/images/folders.svg
>> ./content/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/brand/OpenOffice_Symbol_rgb.svg
>> ./content/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/brand/OpenOffice_Logo_white.svg
>> ./content/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/brand/OpenOffice_Logo_rgb.svg
>>
>>
>> I haven't looked at these in detail, but from the names, the files in
>> content/marketing/art/galleries sound like they might be relevant.
Thanks Rob...I would have done something like this today...didn't get to
it yesterday...
>>
>>> Any suggestions as to where do we want these to live?
>>>
>>
>> If those logos are the ones we want, maybe extend the existing
>> directory structure to include the AOO logos, as well as CD artwork,
>> etc.?
yeah-- I was definitely thinking of extending the /images/AOO_logos to
house JUST the logos...
after that aggregating the other "art" seems like a worthwhile idea...
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> MzK
>>>>>
>>>>> "There's no crying in baseball!"
>>>>> -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> MzK
>>>
>>> "There's no crying in baseball!"
>>> -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
>>
>
>
> KG01 - in addition to aggregating the logos assets in a single, trusted
> source, we should also create a branding usage guide, with guidance on how
> to use, and not to use the logo elements.
Hi Kevin--
See my post from yesterday --
[DISCUSS] Distribution FAQ...
My intention was to mainly deal with trademark issues, but a guide on
actual use/placement would be super...
>
> I will capture an action to create a page in the wiki to start to author
> such content for future use.
OK, good! Keep us posted...
>
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"There's no crying in baseball!"
-- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>.
KG01 - See comments at end of thread.
On Tuesday, June 12, 2012, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 06/11/2012 02:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm starting to do some work on the "Distributor FAQ" (up soonish on
> the
> >>> wiki for comments) and have come to a bit of an issue with regard to
> the
> >>> actual display and download areas of our "official" logos. (If this has
> >>> been
> >>> discussed before, please excuse me here.)
> >>>
> >>> On the website, the "official" logo is here:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
> >>>
> >>
> >> That is a 300x150px PNG file. So I believe that is only a copy of
> >> our official logo. The original logo should be a vector image, like
> >> SVG.
> >
> >
> > well...OK, I don't know where it is :/
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> However, we are no longer using this, yet I think it's still considered
> >>> an
> >>> "official" logo.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Isn't that logo used in OOo 3.3, and we continue to distribute OOo 3.3?
> >
> >
> > ah yes...you are correct
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> We have a reference to the new "Get It Here"
> >>> on our Trademarks page
> >>>
> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html
> >>>
> >>> which references the "project" directory
> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png
> >>>
> >>
> >> So that logo is a small PNG as well, not the original source. Drew
> >> posted the source file on the wiki.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> So, two questions...
> >>>
> >>> -- should any logos that we currently use on
> >>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.x+-+Logo+Explorations
> >>>
> >>> be moved to the project images area as well.
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking only of the one we currently use on the web server, and
> >>> maybe
> >>> the older one as well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- do we want to change
> >>>
> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
> >>>
> >>> only the logos that are *in* the project images area.
> >>>
> >>
> >> OK. So as you point out, what we have today is a mess ;-)
> >
> >
> > yes, and I don't like messes... :)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I'd recommend that we aim for a single location for the image source
> >> files. So, we have a place where we can keep the original source
> >> files for any important logos. This would include our current
> >> "official" logos, our accessory logos like the "Get it here!" logo, as
> >> well as source for the legacy logos. Why bother with legacy logos?
> >> Because they may have graphical elements that we want to reuse in
> >> future logos. If we can't find source for a particular logo, then we
> >> store the highest resolution, least compressed version of the bitmap
> >> image that we can find.
> >>
> >> If we have the original source collected in some consistent way then I
> >> think we can be less concerned about the rasterized versions. There
> >> might be several places where these are stored. (And they are not so
> >> much "stored" as "used".) For example, one might be on the website
> >> (ooo-site in Subversion) while another copy might be in a product
> >> directory because it is used in the UI. Another version migLooking at
> ooo-site:
>
> The command: find . -name '*.svg'
>
> returns:
>
> ./content/bibliographic/mindmap/OOoBib.svg
> ./content/de/downloads/ooo-download-icons.svg
> ./content/documentation/img/pdf.svg
> ./content/documentation/img/emblem-information.svg
> ./content/pap/Curflag.svg
> ./content/pap/an-curac.gif.svg
> ./content/pap/an-curac.svg
> ./content/pap/Cur-flag.svg
> ./content/pap/Netherlands-Antilles-flag.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/wwwprzycisk2.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/180x60_5.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/get_legal_200x100.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/podrecznik.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/web_button_get_legal_border_caps_pl2.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/web_button_get_legal_border_caps_pl.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/get_legal_200x100_noshadow.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/your_choice_200x100.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/pionowy.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/plnlclogo.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/wwwprzycisk1.svg
> ./content/pl/marketing/buttons/125x50_5.svg
> ./content/sl/pics/ooo_get_legal_sl.svg
> ./content/sl/pics/appunti_architetto_franc_01.svg
> ./content/sl/pics/2.0_icons.svg
> ./content/marketing/ooocon2006/OOoConLyon.svg
> ./content/marketing/ooocon2005/logos/Municipality_Trieste.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_CD_label_nc.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_CD_envelope_nc.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_DVD_envelope_nc.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_CD_paper_envelope_nc.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-paper-osi_min.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-label-osi_min.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-dvd-envelope-osi.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-osi.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-label-osi.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-paper-osi.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-osi_min.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-dvd-envelope-osi_min.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-col-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-col-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-black-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo2-logo(CMYK-2color-outlines).svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-black-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-col-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-col-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-black-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-grey-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/3.0/rgb/ooo-3-logo-col-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/3.0/grey/ooo-3-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/3.0/mono/ooo-3-logo-mono-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-mono-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-grey-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-black-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main_tm/col/ooo-main_tm-logo-col-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main_tm/grey/ooo-main_tm-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main_tm/mono/ooo-main_tm-logo-mono-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-col-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-grey-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-mono-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-black-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/version3/col/ooo-3-logo-col-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/version3/grey/ooo-3-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/version3/mono/ooo-3-logo-mono-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main-logo-col-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-col-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-black-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-grey-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main-logo-mono-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/col/ooo-main-logo-col-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-mono-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/grey/ooo-main-logo-grey-rgb.svg
>
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/mono/ooo-main-logo-mono-rgb.svg
> ./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main-logo-grey-rgb.svg
> ./content/trademark/symbol_color.svg
> ./content/trademark/logo_color.svg
> ./content/it/contribuire/images/dashboard.svg
> ./content/it/contribuire/images/ok.svg
> ./content/it/contribuire/images/dashboard (5).svg
> ./content/it/contribuire/images/lock (1).svg
> ./content/it/contribuire/images/lock.svg
> ./content/it/contribuire/images/ok (3).svg
> ./content/it/linguistico/images/flagworld.svg
> ./content/it/linguistico/images/dictionary.svg
> ./content/it/linguistico/images/thesaurus.svg
> ./content/it/linguistico/images/langpack.svg
> ./content/it/linguistico/images/sillabus.svg
> ./content/it/linguistico/images/OOoVoc.svg
> ./content/it/stampa/images/folders.svg
> ./content/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/brand/OpenOffice_Symbol_rgb.svg
> ./content/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/brand/OpenOffice_Logo_white.svg
> ./content/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/brand/OpenOffice_Logo_rgb.svg
>
>
> I haven't looked at these in detail, but from the names, the files in
> content/marketing/art/galleries sound like they might be relevant.
>
> > Any suggestions as to where do we want these to live?
> >
>
> If those logos are the ones we want, maybe extend the existing
> directory structure to include the AOO logos, as well as CD artwork,
> etc.?
>
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> --
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> MzK
> >>>
> >>> "There's no crying in baseball!"
> >>> -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
> >
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "There's no crying in baseball!"
> > -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
>
KG01 - in addition to aggregating the logos assets in a single, trusted
source, we should also create a branding usage guide, with guidance on how
to use, and not to use the logo elements.
I will capture an action to create a page in the wiki to start to author
such content for future use.
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 06/11/2012 02:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm starting to do some work on the "Distributor FAQ" (up soonish on the
>>> wiki for comments) and have come to a bit of an issue with regard to the
>>> actual display and download areas of our "official" logos. (If this has
>>> been
>>> discussed before, please excuse me here.)
>>>
>>> On the website, the "official" logo is here:
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
>>>
>>
>> That is a 300x150px PNG file. So I believe that is only a copy of
>> our official logo. The original logo should be a vector image, like
>> SVG.
>
>
> well...OK, I don't know where it is :/
>
>
>>
>>> However, we are no longer using this, yet I think it's still considered
>>> an
>>> "official" logo.
>>>
>>
>> Isn't that logo used in OOo 3.3, and we continue to distribute OOo 3.3?
>
>
> ah yes...you are correct
>
>
>>
>>> We have a reference to the new "Get It Here"
>>> on our Trademarks page
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html
>>>
>>> which references the "project" directory
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png
>>>
>>
>> So that logo is a small PNG as well, not the original source. Drew
>> posted the source file on the wiki.
>>
>>>
>>> So, two questions...
>>>
>>> -- should any logos that we currently use on
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.x+-+Logo+Explorations
>>>
>>> be moved to the project images area as well.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking only of the one we currently use on the web server, and
>>> maybe
>>> the older one as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- do we want to change
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
>>>
>>> only the logos that are *in* the project images area.
>>>
>>
>> OK. So as you point out, what we have today is a mess ;-)
>
>
> yes, and I don't like messes... :)
>
>
>>
>> I'd recommend that we aim for a single location for the image source
>> files. So, we have a place where we can keep the original source
>> files for any important logos. This would include our current
>> "official" logos, our accessory logos like the "Get it here!" logo, as
>> well as source for the legacy logos. Why bother with legacy logos?
>> Because they may have graphical elements that we want to reuse in
>> future logos. If we can't find source for a particular logo, then we
>> store the highest resolution, least compressed version of the bitmap
>> image that we can find.
>>
>> If we have the original source collected in some consistent way then I
>> think we can be less concerned about the rasterized versions. There
>> might be several places where these are stored. (And they are not so
>> much "stored" as "used".) For example, one might be on the website
>> (ooo-site in Subversion) while another copy might be in a product
>> directory because it is used in the UI. Another version might be on
>> the wiki, or on the blog's media library. There may be some
>> advantages to trying to clean this all up and say here is the single
>> one place where the raster images are stored, but that sounds like a
>> lot of work. And in some cases this might not be possible, since the
>> image may need slight tweaking. For example, one use might need an
>> alpha transparency channel, while another use needs an explicit white
>> background.
>>
>>
>> -Rob
>
>
> OK...I will try to "find" svg versions of these -- I did see what Drew
> posted on the wiki; still looking for the OOo 3.3 one. I don't think these
> should permanently live on the wiki. My feeling is that need to be in a
> "safer" environment.
>
> It seems many of these were under the "marketing" area in the past.
> Although I don't find sources, svg, there.
>
Looking at ooo-site:
The command: find . -name '*.svg'
returns:
./content/bibliographic/mindmap/OOoBib.svg
./content/de/downloads/ooo-download-icons.svg
./content/documentation/img/pdf.svg
./content/documentation/img/emblem-information.svg
./content/pap/Curflag.svg
./content/pap/an-curac.gif.svg
./content/pap/an-curac.svg
./content/pap/Cur-flag.svg
./content/pap/Netherlands-Antilles-flag.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/wwwprzycisk2.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/180x60_5.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/get_legal_200x100.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/podrecznik.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/web_button_get_legal_border_caps_pl2.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/web_button_get_legal_border_caps_pl.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/get_legal_200x100_noshadow.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/your_choice_200x100.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/pionowy.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/plnlclogo.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/wwwprzycisk1.svg
./content/pl/marketing/buttons/125x50_5.svg
./content/sl/pics/ooo_get_legal_sl.svg
./content/sl/pics/appunti_architetto_franc_01.svg
./content/sl/pics/2.0_icons.svg
./content/marketing/ooocon2006/OOoConLyon.svg
./content/marketing/ooocon2005/logos/Municipality_Trieste.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_CD_label_nc.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_CD_envelope_nc.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_DVD_envelope_nc.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_CD_paper_envelope_nc.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-paper-osi_min.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-label-osi_min.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-dvd-envelope-osi.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-osi.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-label-osi.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-paper-osi.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-cd-envelope-osi_min.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/official/ooo2-dvd-envelope-osi_min.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-black-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo2-logo(CMYK-2color-outlines).svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-black-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-black-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/3.0/rgb/ooo-3-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/3.0/grey/ooo-3-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/3.0/mono/ooo-3-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-2-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-pos-logo-black-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main_tm-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/marketing/logos/ooo-main-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main_tm/col/ooo-main_tm-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main_tm/grey/ooo-main_tm-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main_tm/mono/ooo-main_tm-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/pos/ooo-pos-logo-black-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/version3/col/ooo-3-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/version3/grey/ooo-3-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/version3/mono/ooo-3-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-black-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/col/ooo-main-logo-col-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main_tm-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/grey/ooo-main-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/mono/ooo-main-logo-mono-rgb.svg
./content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/ooo-main-logo-grey-rgb.svg
./content/trademark/symbol_color.svg
./content/trademark/logo_color.svg
./content/it/contribuire/images/dashboard.svg
./content/it/contribuire/images/ok.svg
./content/it/contribuire/images/dashboard (5).svg
./content/it/contribuire/images/lock (1).svg
./content/it/contribuire/images/lock.svg
./content/it/contribuire/images/ok (3).svg
./content/it/linguistico/images/flagworld.svg
./content/it/linguistico/images/dictionary.svg
./content/it/linguistico/images/thesaurus.svg
./content/it/linguistico/images/langpack.svg
./content/it/linguistico/images/sillabus.svg
./content/it/linguistico/images/OOoVoc.svg
./content/it/stampa/images/folders.svg
./content/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/brand/OpenOffice_Symbol_rgb.svg
./content/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/brand/OpenOffice_Logo_white.svg
./content/ui/VisualDesign/gifs/brand/OpenOffice_Logo_rgb.svg
I haven't looked at these in detail, but from the names, the files in
content/marketing/art/galleries sound like they might be relevant.
> Any suggestions as to where do we want these to live?
>
If those logos are the ones we want, maybe extend the existing
directory structure to include the AOO logos, as well as CD artwork,
etc.?
>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> MzK
>>>
>>> "There's no crying in baseball!"
>>> -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "There's no crying in baseball!"
> -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On 06/11/2012 02:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm starting to do some work on the "Distributor FAQ" (up soonish on the
>> wiki for comments) and have come to a bit of an issue with regard to the
>> actual display and download areas of our "official" logos. (If this has been
>> discussed before, please excuse me here.)
>>
>> On the website, the "official" logo is here:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
>>
>
> That is a 300x150px PNG file. So I believe that is only a copy of
> our official logo. The original logo should be a vector image, like
> SVG.
well...OK, I don't know where it is :/
>
>> However, we are no longer using this, yet I think it's still considered an
>> "official" logo.
>>
>
> Isn't that logo used in OOo 3.3, and we continue to distribute OOo 3.3?
ah yes...you are correct
>
>> We have a reference to the new "Get It Here"
>> on our Trademarks page
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html
>>
>> which references the "project" directory
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png
>>
>
> So that logo is a small PNG as well, not the original source. Drew
> posted the source file on the wiki.
>
>>
>> So, two questions...
>>
>> -- should any logos that we currently use on
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.x+-+Logo+Explorations
>>
>> be moved to the project images area as well.
>>
>> I'm thinking only of the one we currently use on the web server, and maybe
>> the older one as well.
>>
>>
>> -- do we want to change
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
>>
>> only the logos that are *in* the project images area.
>>
>
> OK. So as you point out, what we have today is a mess ;-)
yes, and I don't like messes... :)
>
> I'd recommend that we aim for a single location for the image source
> files. So, we have a place where we can keep the original source
> files for any important logos. This would include our current
> "official" logos, our accessory logos like the "Get it here!" logo, as
> well as source for the legacy logos. Why bother with legacy logos?
> Because they may have graphical elements that we want to reuse in
> future logos. If we can't find source for a particular logo, then we
> store the highest resolution, least compressed version of the bitmap
> image that we can find.
>
> If we have the original source collected in some consistent way then I
> think we can be less concerned about the rasterized versions. There
> might be several places where these are stored. (And they are not so
> much "stored" as "used".) For example, one might be on the website
> (ooo-site in Subversion) while another copy might be in a product
> directory because it is used in the UI. Another version might be on
> the wiki, or on the blog's media library. There may be some
> advantages to trying to clean this all up and say here is the single
> one place where the raster images are stored, but that sounds like a
> lot of work. And in some cases this might not be possible, since the
> image may need slight tweaking. For example, one use might need an
> alpha transparency channel, while another use needs an explicit white
> background.
>
>
> -Rob
OK...I will try to "find" svg versions of these -- I did see what Drew
posted on the wiki; still looking for the OOo 3.3 one. I don't think
these should permanently live on the wiki. My feeling is that need to be
in a "safer" environment.
It seems many of these were under the "marketing" area in the past.
Although I don't find sources, svg, there.
Any suggestions as to where do we want these to live?
>
>>
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>>
>> "There's no crying in baseball!"
>> -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"There's no crying in baseball!"
-- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"
Re: official logos ???
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm starting to do some work on the "Distributor FAQ" (up soonish on the
> wiki for comments) and have come to a bit of an issue with regard to the
> actual display and download areas of our "official" logos. (If this has been
> discussed before, please excuse me here.)
>
> On the website, the "official" logo is here:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
>
That is a 300x150px PNG file. So I believe that is only a copy of
our official logo. The original logo should be a vector image, like
SVG.
> However, we are no longer using this, yet I think it's still considered an
> "official" logo.
>
Isn't that logo used in OOo 3.3, and we continue to distribute OOo 3.3?
> We have a reference to the new "Get It Here"
> on our Trademarks page
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html
>
> which references the "project" directory
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/get-it-here/en.png
>
So that logo is a small PNG as well, not the original source. Drew
posted the source file on the wiki.
>
> So, two questions...
>
> -- should any logos that we currently use on
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.x+-+Logo+Explorations
>
> be moved to the project images area as well.
>
> I'm thinking only of the one we currently use on the web server, and maybe
> the older one as well.
>
>
> -- do we want to change
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/
>
> only the logos that are *in* the project images area.
>
OK. So as you point out, what we have today is a mess ;-)
I'd recommend that we aim for a single location for the image source
files. So, we have a place where we can keep the original source
files for any important logos. This would include our current
"official" logos, our accessory logos like the "Get it here!" logo, as
well as source for the legacy logos. Why bother with legacy logos?
Because they may have graphical elements that we want to reuse in
future logos. If we can't find source for a particular logo, then we
store the highest resolution, least compressed version of the bitmap
image that we can find.
If we have the original source collected in some consistent way then I
think we can be less concerned about the rasterized versions. There
might be several places where these are stored. (And they are not so
much "stored" as "used".) For example, one might be on the website
(ooo-site in Subversion) while another copy might be in a product
directory because it is used in the UI. Another version might be on
the wiki, or on the blog's media library. There may be some
advantages to trying to clean this all up and say here is the single
one place where the raster images are stored, but that sounds like a
lot of work. And in some cases this might not be possible, since the
image may need slight tweaking. For example, one use might need an
alpha transparency channel, while another use needs an explicit white
background.
-Rob
>
> Thanks.
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "There's no crying in baseball!"
> -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), "A League of Their Own"