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Posted to users@camel.apache.org by Bengt Rodehav <be...@rodehav.com> on 2012/04/23 10:27:16 UTC

Problems with Camel's Karaf commands

I'm using Camel 2.9.1 and Karaf 2.2.5.

I have several Camel contexts and several routes running. Using JConsole I
can see the contexts, routes and other JMX information.

However, if I use the Camel commands from within the Karaf console I see
nothing. E g the command "camel:context-list" shows nothing.

Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

/Bengt

Re: Problems with Camel's Karaf commands

Posted by Bengt Rodehav <be...@rodehav.com>.

Great - looking forward to it!

/Bengt

2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>

> Yup
>
>
> On 04/23/2012 02:25 PM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>
>> I appreciate it JB,
>>
>> Will all functionality be available even when looking up via JMX?
>>
>> /Bengt
>>
>> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>
>>  Hi Bengt,
>>>
>>> JMX is only used for statistic. The purpose is to be able to display and
>>> manage routes without the JMX layer (without the management feature
>>> installed).
>>>
>>> However, we can have a dual handling, with an option to choose to lookup
>>> by OSGi services or JMX.
>>>
>>> I will implement an enhancement on trunk for that.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/23/2012 01:52 PM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>>
>>>  OK - that explains it. I have no camel context published as OSGi
>>>> service.
>>>> Is this something I should do in order to "integrate" with the Camel
>>>> Karaf
>>>> commands?
>>>>
>>>> Why isn't JMX used? (It seems to work fine under Karaf) What are the
>>>> extra
>>>> benefits from *not* using JMX?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I publish all my camel contexts as OSGi services, will they then be
>>>> visible to the Karaf commands?
>>>>
>>>> /Bengt
>>>>
>>>> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Bengt,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm gonna take a look but the Karaf commands are based on Camel Context
>>>>> registered as OSGi service. Could you take a look about the services
>>>>> available (using ls command in Karaf shell).
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/23/2012 11:01 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hello JB,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use Java DSL. I create multiple camel contexts with code like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *<Recieve the bundle context from iPOJO constructor...>**
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  **CamelContextFactory contextFactory = new CamelContextFactory();
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **contextFactory.******setBundleContext(******theBundleContext);
>>>>>>> **CamelContext context = contextFactory.createContext()******;*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The contexts and routes work perfectly well and I can also access them
>>>>>> via
>>>>>> JMX from JConsole but I cannot see them using the Karaf commands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Bengt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Bengt,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which DSL do you use ?
>>>>>>> Do you use an "OSGi" complient camel context if you do it
>>>>>>> programmatically
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/23/2012 10:27 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'm using Camel 2.9.1 and Karaf 2.2.5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have several Camel contexts and several routes running. Using
>>>>>>>> JConsole I
>>>>>>>> can see the contexts, routes and other JMX information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, if I use the Camel commands from within the Karaf console I
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> nothing. E g the command "camel:context-list" shows nothing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Bengt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   --
>>>>>>
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>

Re: Problems with Camel's Karaf commands

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.

Yup

On 04/23/2012 02:25 PM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
> I appreciate it JB,
>
> Will all functionality be available even when looking up via JMX?
>
> /Bengt
>
> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>
>> Hi Bengt,
>>
>> JMX is only used for statistic. The purpose is to be able to display and
>> manage routes without the JMX layer (without the management feature
>> installed).
>>
>> However, we can have a dual handling, with an option to choose to lookup
>> by OSGi services or JMX.
>>
>> I will implement an enhancement on trunk for that.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 04/23/2012 01:52 PM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>
>>> OK - that explains it. I have no camel context published as OSGi service.
>>> Is this something I should do in order to "integrate" with the Camel Karaf
>>> commands?
>>>
>>> Why isn't JMX used? (It seems to work fine under Karaf) What are the extra
>>> benefits from *not* using JMX?
>>>
>>>
>>> If I publish all my camel contexts as OSGi services, will they then be
>>> visible to the Karaf commands?
>>>
>>> /Bengt
>>>
>>> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>
>>>   Hi Bengt,
>>>>
>>>> I'm gonna take a look but the Karaf commands are based on Camel Context
>>>> registered as OSGi service. Could you take a look about the services
>>>> available (using ls command in Karaf shell).
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/23/2012 11:01 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Hello JB,
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Java DSL. I create multiple camel contexts with code like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> *<Recieve the bundle context from iPOJO constructor...>**
>>>>>
>>>>>   **CamelContextFactory contextFactory = new CamelContextFactory();
>>>>>> **contextFactory.****setBundleContext(****theBundleContext);
>>>>>> **CamelContext context = contextFactory.createContext()****;*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The contexts and routes work perfectly well and I can also access them
>>>>> via
>>>>> JMX from JConsole but I cannot see them using the Karaf commands.
>>>>>
>>>>> /Bengt
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hi Bengt,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which DSL do you use ?
>>>>>> Do you use an "OSGi" complient camel context if you do it
>>>>>> programmatically
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/23/2012 10:27 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I'm using Camel 2.9.1 and Karaf 2.2.5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have several Camel contexts and several routes running. Using
>>>>>>> JConsole I
>>>>>>> can see the contexts, routes and other JMX information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, if I use the Camel commands from within the Karaf console I
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> nothing. E g the command "camel:context-list" shows nothing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /Bengt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>   --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

Re: Problems with Camel's Karaf commands

Posted by Bengt Rodehav <be...@rodehav.com>.

I appreciate it JB,

Will all functionality be available even when looking up via JMX?

/Bengt

2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>

> Hi Bengt,
>
> JMX is only used for statistic. The purpose is to be able to display and
> manage routes without the JMX layer (without the management feature
> installed).
>
> However, we can have a dual handling, with an option to choose to lookup
> by OSGi services or JMX.
>
> I will implement an enhancement on trunk for that.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 04/23/2012 01:52 PM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>
>> OK - that explains it. I have no camel context published as OSGi service.
>> Is this something I should do in order to "integrate" with the Camel Karaf
>> commands?
>>
>> Why isn't JMX used? (It seems to work fine under Karaf) What are the extra
>> benefits from *not* using JMX?
>>
>>
>> If I publish all my camel contexts as OSGi services, will they then be
>> visible to the Karaf commands?
>>
>> /Bengt
>>
>> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>
>>  Hi Bengt,
>>>
>>> I'm gonna take a look but the Karaf commands are based on Camel Context
>>> registered as OSGi service. Could you take a look about the services
>>> available (using ls command in Karaf shell).
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/23/2012 11:01 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello JB,
>>>>
>>>> I use Java DSL. I create multiple camel contexts with code like this:
>>>>
>>>> *<Recieve the bundle context from iPOJO constructor...>**
>>>>
>>>>  **CamelContextFactory contextFactory = new CamelContextFactory();
>>>>> **contextFactory.****setBundleContext(****theBundleContext);
>>>>> **CamelContext context = contextFactory.createContext()****;*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The contexts and routes work perfectly well and I can also access them
>>>> via
>>>> JMX from JConsole but I cannot see them using the Karaf commands.
>>>>
>>>> /Bengt
>>>>
>>>> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Bengt,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> which DSL do you use ?
>>>>> Do you use an "OSGi" complient camel context if you do it
>>>>> programmatically
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/23/2012 10:27 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'm using Camel 2.9.1 and Karaf 2.2.5.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have several Camel contexts and several routes running. Using
>>>>>> JConsole I
>>>>>> can see the contexts, routes and other JMX information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, if I use the Camel commands from within the Karaf console I
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> nothing. E g the command "camel:context-list" shows nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Bengt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>

Re: Problems with Camel's Karaf commands

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.

Hi Bengt,

JMX is only used for statistic. The purpose is to be able to display and 
manage routes without the JMX layer (without the management feature 
installed).

However, we can have a dual handling, with an option to choose to lookup 
by OSGi services or JMX.

I will implement an enhancement on trunk for that.

Regards
JB

On 04/23/2012 01:52 PM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
> OK - that explains it. I have no camel context published as OSGi service.
> Is this something I should do in order to "integrate" with the Camel Karaf
> commands?
>
> Why isn't JMX used? (It seems to work fine under Karaf) What are the extra
> benefits from *not* using JMX?
>
> If I publish all my camel contexts as OSGi services, will they then be
> visible to the Karaf commands?
>
> /Bengt
>
> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>
>> Hi Bengt,
>>
>> I'm gonna take a look but the Karaf commands are based on Camel Context
>> registered as OSGi service. Could you take a look about the services
>> available (using ls command in Karaf shell).
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 04/23/2012 11:01 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>
>>> Hello JB,
>>>
>>> I use Java DSL. I create multiple camel contexts with code like this:
>>>
>>> *<Recieve the bundle context from iPOJO constructor...>**
>>>
>>>> **CamelContextFactory contextFactory = new CamelContextFactory();
>>>> **contextFactory.**setBundleContext(**theBundleContext);
>>>> **CamelContext context = contextFactory.createContext()**;*
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The contexts and routes work perfectly well and I can also access them via
>>> JMX from JConsole but I cannot see them using the Karaf commands.
>>>
>>> /Bengt
>>>
>>> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>
>>>   Hi Bengt,
>>>>
>>>> which DSL do you use ?
>>>> Do you use an "OSGi" complient camel context if you do it
>>>> programmatically
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/23/2012 10:27 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I'm using Camel 2.9.1 and Karaf 2.2.5.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have several Camel contexts and several routes running. Using
>>>>> JConsole I
>>>>> can see the contexts, routes and other JMX information.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if I use the Camel commands from within the Karaf console I see
>>>>> nothing. E g the command "camel:context-list" shows nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> /Bengt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

Re: Problems with Camel's Karaf commands

Posted by Bengt Rodehav <be...@rodehav.com>.

OK - that explains it. I have no camel context published as OSGi service.
Is this something I should do in order to "integrate" with the Camel Karaf
commands?

Why isn't JMX used? (It seems to work fine under Karaf) What are the extra
benefits from *not* using JMX?

If I publish all my camel contexts as OSGi services, will they then be
visible to the Karaf commands?

/Bengt

2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>

> Hi Bengt,
>
> I'm gonna take a look but the Karaf commands are based on Camel Context
> registered as OSGi service. Could you take a look about the services
> available (using ls command in Karaf shell).
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 04/23/2012 11:01 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>
>> Hello JB,
>>
>> I use Java DSL. I create multiple camel contexts with code like this:
>>
>> *<Recieve the bundle context from iPOJO constructor...>**
>>
>>> **CamelContextFactory contextFactory = new CamelContextFactory();
>>> **contextFactory.**setBundleContext(**theBundleContext);
>>> **CamelContext context = contextFactory.createContext()**;*
>>>
>>
>>
>> The contexts and routes work perfectly well and I can also access them via
>> JMX from JConsole but I cannot see them using the Karaf commands.
>>
>> /Bengt
>>
>> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>
>>  Hi Bengt,
>>>
>>> which DSL do you use ?
>>> Do you use an "OSGi" complient camel context if you do it
>>> programmatically
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/23/2012 10:27 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>>
>>>  I'm using Camel 2.9.1 and Karaf 2.2.5.
>>>>
>>>> I have several Camel contexts and several routes running. Using
>>>> JConsole I
>>>> can see the contexts, routes and other JMX information.
>>>>
>>>> However, if I use the Camel commands from within the Karaf console I see
>>>> nothing. E g the command "camel:context-list" shows nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>>>>
>>>> /Bengt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>

Re: Problems with Camel's Karaf commands

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.

Hi Bengt,

I'm gonna take a look but the Karaf commands are based on Camel Context 
registered as OSGi service. Could you take a look about the services 
available (using ls command in Karaf shell).

Regards
JB

On 04/23/2012 11:01 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
> Hello JB,
>
> I use Java DSL. I create multiple camel contexts with code like this:
>
> *<Recieve the bundle context from iPOJO constructor...>**
>> **CamelContextFactory contextFactory = new CamelContextFactory();
>> **contextFactory.setBundleContext(theBundleContext);
>> **CamelContext context = contextFactory.createContext();*
>
>
> The contexts and routes work perfectly well and I can also access them via
> JMX from JConsole but I cannot see them using the Karaf commands.
>
> /Bengt
>
> 2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>
>> Hi Bengt,
>>
>> which DSL do you use ?
>> Do you use an "OSGi" complient camel context if you do it programmatically
>> ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 04/23/2012 10:27 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using Camel 2.9.1 and Karaf 2.2.5.
>>>
>>> I have several Camel contexts and several routes running. Using JConsole I
>>> can see the contexts, routes and other JMX information.
>>>
>>> However, if I use the Camel commands from within the Karaf console I see
>>> nothing. E g the command "camel:context-list" shows nothing.
>>>
>>> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>>>
>>> /Bengt
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

Re: Problems with Camel's Karaf commands

Posted by Bengt Rodehav <be...@rodehav.com>.

Hello JB,

I use Java DSL. I create multiple camel contexts with code like this:

*<Recieve the bundle context from iPOJO constructor...>**
> **CamelContextFactory contextFactory = new CamelContextFactory();
> **contextFactory.setBundleContext(theBundleContext);
> **CamelContext context = contextFactory.createContext();*


The contexts and routes work perfectly well and I can also access them via
JMX from JConsole but I cannot see them using the Karaf commands.

/Bengt

2012/4/23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>

> Hi Bengt,
>
> which DSL do you use ?
> Do you use an "OSGi" complient camel context if you do it programmatically
> ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 04/23/2012 10:27 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
>
>> I'm using Camel 2.9.1 and Karaf 2.2.5.
>>
>> I have several Camel contexts and several routes running. Using JConsole I
>> can see the contexts, routes and other JMX information.
>>
>> However, if I use the Camel commands from within the Karaf console I see
>> nothing. E g the command "camel:context-list" shows nothing.
>>
>> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>>
>> /Bengt
>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>

Re: Problems with Camel's Karaf commands

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.

Hi Bengt,

which DSL do you use ?
Do you use an "OSGi" complient camel context if you do it programmatically ?

Regards
JB

On 04/23/2012 10:27 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:
> I'm using Camel 2.9.1 and Karaf 2.2.5.
>
> I have several Camel contexts and several routes running. Using JConsole I
> can see the contexts, routes and other JMX information.
>
> However, if I use the Camel commands from within the Karaf console I see
> nothing. E g the command "camel:context-list" shows nothing.
>
> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>
> /Bengt
>

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com