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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch> on 2012/07/28 10:16:17 UTC

T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

Hi at all

At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many 
different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and 
distributed by one of the OOo related associations. Same Country have 
had also Fan Shirts wich are selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt 
was donated by SUN Microsystems. To have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if 
you go to represent AOO at a Event. The old shirts are compleetly 
outdated. (the old dark blue logo and a logo from a company who is no 
longer existent) I realy like to have a new Shirt. Samething like a 
Committer Shirt, what you think about?

But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at 
Apache, it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's 
not allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke 
Issues from the ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can 
offer the Sponsor a Blog Post.

The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy 
like the Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like 
that. Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. 
Yes, I can do it from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a 
other country.

I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe

What do you think about?

Greetings Raphael


-- 
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/

Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch> wrote:
> Hi at all
>
> At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many
> different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and
> distributed by one of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had
> also Fan Shirts wich are selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was
> donated by SUN Microsystems. To have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go to
> represent AOO at a Event. The old shirts are compleetly outdated. (the old
> dark blue logo and a logo from a company who is no longer existent) I realy
> like to have a new Shirt. Samething like a Committer Shirt, what you think
> about?
>
> But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at
> Apache, it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not
> allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues from
> the ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the Sponsor
> a Blog Post.
>

This is  covered by existing ASF trademark policy.  See the section
called "Using Apache trademarks on merchandise" here:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/

And you cans see what other products have done with this Google query:
 shirt site:apache.org

> The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy like
> the Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that.
> Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. Yes, I can
> do it from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.
>
> I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe
>
> What do you think about?
>

The simplest method, I think, is to have have a volunteer design a
shirt, seem permission from the PPMC for the use of the logo and then
work with a 3rd party, like CafePress, to print the shirts.    There
are probably other, less expensive options, but they would be more
complicated, in terms of funding and distribution.

-Rob

> Greetings Raphael
>
>
> --
> My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/

Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

Posted by Albino B Neto <bi...@gmail.com>.
Hi

2012/7/28 Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch>:
> Hi at all
>
> At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many
> different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and
> distributed by one of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had
> also Fan Shirts wich are selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was
> donated by SUN Microsystems. To have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go to
> represent AOO at a Event. The old shirts are compleetly outdated. (the old
> dark blue logo and a logo from a company who is no longer existent) I realy
> like to have a new Shirt. Samething like a Committer Shirt, what you think
> about?
>
> But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at
> Apache, it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not
> allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues from
> the ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the Sponsor
> a Blog Post.
>
> The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy like
> the Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that.
> Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. Yes, I can
> do it from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.
>
> I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe

+1

Albino

Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

Posted by Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>.
KG01 - see comments inline. 

On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch> wrote:
> 
>> Hi at all
>> 
>> At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many
>> different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and
>> distributed by one of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had
>> also Fan Shirts wich are selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was
>> donated by SUN Microsystems. To have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go
>> to represent AOO at a Event. The old shirts are compleetly outdated. (the
>> old dark blue logo and a logo from a company who is no longer existent) I
>> realy like to have a new Shirt. Samething like a Committer Shirt, what you
>> think about?
>> 
> 
> Raphael--
> 
> I think this is a lovely idea! :)
> 
> Maybe you  should take this up with marketing? Or see what they're up to.
> Thye may already have come up with some ideas.
> 
> I think it would be great for committers to have specially labeled shirts
> to wear to functions such as this.
> 

KG01 - Could also be a way to raise funds for project. 

> 
>> But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at
>> Apache, it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not
>> allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues
>> from the ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the
>> Sponsor a Blog Post.
>> 
>> The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy
>> like the Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that.
>> Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world.

Recently I purchased printed tshirts in china for 10us dollars each. With more volume, price could drop. 


>> Yes, I can
>> do it from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.
>> 

KG01 - Perhaps we can find a partner who can handle to printing and distribution. Proceeds to the effort. 


>> I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe
>> 
>> What do you think about?
>> 
>> Greetings Raphael
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
> 
> "I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
> As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
>                              -- Eddie Van Halen

RE: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
I think, from the standpoint of AOO community, being an Apache committer is probably something to leave for an ASF T-shirt, if that is ever done at all.  

It might be better to leave such fine-grained details among AOO supporters and contributors to nametags or something similar (pins or stickers perhaps).

 - Dennis

PS: I have one Creative Commons T-Shirt that says "I'm a Commoner" which people don't get and I have to explain it.  The one that says "I love to share" on the front created an awkward moment with two tipsy ladies at a Mark Knopfler concert while Robert Scoble and I were walking back to our cars (where our wives had gone ahead).

-----Original Message-----
From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.schenk@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 08:56
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

[ ... ]

I think this is a lovely idea! :)

Maybe you  should take this up with marketing? Or see what they're up to.
Thye may already have come up with some ideas.

I think it would be great for committers to have specially labeled shirts
to wear to functions such as this.

[ ... ]


Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch> wrote:

> Hi at all
>
> At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many
> different versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and
> distributed by one of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had
> also Fan Shirts wich are selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was
> donated by SUN Microsystems. To have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go
> to represent AOO at a Event. The old shirts are compleetly outdated. (the
> old dark blue logo and a logo from a company who is no longer existent) I
> realy like to have a new Shirt. Samething like a Committer Shirt, what you
> think about?
>

Raphael--

I think this is a lovely idea! :)

Maybe you  should take this up with marketing? Or see what they're up to.
Thye may already have come up with some ideas.

I think it would be great for committers to have specially labeled shirts
to wear to functions such as this.



> But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at
> Apache, it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not
> allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues
> from the ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the
> Sponsor a Blog Post.
>
> The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy
> like the Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that.
> Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. Yes, I can
> do it from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.
>
> I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe
>
> What do you think about?
>
> Greetings Raphael
>
>
> --
> My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
>



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
 As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
                              -- Eddie Van Halen

Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

Posted by Nancy K <na...@yahoo.com>.
Would the same trademark problems exist if a custom flash drive was made using the OpenOffice orb with seagull logo? I am thinking that this might be a take-away promotion as folks would use this on their computer - if it is affordable.  It might be less expensive - possibly with a custom lanyard. Something like :
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/cuusbfldr.html

http://www.memorysuppliers.com/custom-usb-flash-drive-shapes.html



Nancy
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________________________________
 From: Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>
To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" <oo...@incubator.apache.org> 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project
 
+1 T-shirts are a a cheap but effective way to motivate committers.



----- Original Message -----
...
> 
> Hi at all
> 
> At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many different 
> versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and distributed by one 
> of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had also Fan Shirts wich are 
> selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was donated by SUN Microsystems. To 
> have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go to represent AOO at a Event. The old 
> shirts are compleetly outdated. (the old dark blue logo and a logo from a 
> company who is no longer existent) I realy like to have a new Shirt. Samething 
> like a Committer Shirt, what you think about?
> 
> But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at Apache, 
> it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not 
> allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues from the 
> ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the Sponsor a Blog 
> Post.
> 
> The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy like the 
> Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that. 
> Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. Yes, I can do it 
> from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.
> 
> I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe
> 
> What do you think about?
> 
> Greetings Raphael
> 
> 
> -- My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
>

Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
+1 T-shirts are a a cheap but effective way to motivate committers.



----- Original Message -----
...
> 
> Hi at all
> 
> At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many different 
> versions of OOo shirts. Moastly they was payed, designed and distributed by one 
> of the OOo related associations. Same Country have had also Fan Shirts wich are 
> selled by OOo related NGO's. One T-Shirt was donated by SUN Microsystems. To 
> have a T-Shirt is a nice thing, if you go to represent AOO at a Event. The old 
> shirts are compleetly outdated. (the old dark blue logo and a logo from a 
> company who is no longer existent) I realy like to have a new Shirt. Samething 
> like a Committer Shirt, what you think about?
> 
> But there are different problems. Since we have not  our own monay at Apache, 
> it's hard to solve the payment question. As far as I know, it's not 
> allowd to put a sponsor on the shirt. I think you hit Traidmarke Issues from the 
> ASF with it. And a Shirt will cost money. Maybe we can offer the Sponsor a Blog 
> Post.
> 
> The other topic is to distribute the Shirt all over the world. I realy like the 
> Idea, but I'm simply on the wrong place to do samething like that. 
> Switzerland is one of the moast expensive country in the world. Yes, I can do it 
> from here, but finaly, it costs a load more then from a other country.
> 
> I would realy like to have one for the ApacheCon Europe
> 
> What do you think about?
> 
> Greetings Raphael
> 
> 
> -- My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
>