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[RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject
Apache Silk it is:
[17] Apache Silk
[ 0] Apache Web Bricks
[ 0] Apache Web Commons (branding issue with Commons)
[ 3] Apache Web Components
[ 0] Apache Web Parts (conflict with Microsoft and sf.net)
20 +1 votes with 1 abstainer.
So now we can finish the proposal, get it voted on and start with the fun
stuff.
Hen
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
>
> Assuming it doesn't degenerate into confusion, I'll end the vote on Sunday
> midday EST. 3 votes needed, simple majority wins.
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Re: [RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
I'm in favour of boring as I'm pushing for a Jakarta made up of
components, and not sub-projects. Http Components, Web Components would
just be groupings of components to improve the information architecture of
the site/mail-lists/whatever where necessary.
Catchy names would be used for the components, not groupings.
Hen
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Yoav Shapira wrote:
> I'd also prefer a one-word catchy name to something uber-geeky like
> Web Components, so if we really can't use Silk we can come up with
> some other options and have a new vote...
>
> Yoav
>
> On 2/27/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>> I've come to understand that a name Apache FOO does not violate the
>> trademark FOO. As such, I don't think there's any problem with Apache
>> Silk.
>>
>> Sanjiva.
>>
>> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 00:49 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apache Silk it is:
>>>>
>>>> [17] Apache Silk
>>>> [ 0] Apache Web Bricks
>>>> [ 0] Apache Web Commons (branding issue with Commons)
>>>> [ 3] Apache Web Components
>>>> [ 0] Apache Web Parts (conflict with Microsoft and sf.net)
>>>>
>>>> 20 +1 votes with 1 abstainer.
>>>>
>>>> So now we can finish the proposal, get it voted on and start with the fun
>>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> Okay. I've been unable to get this resolved - for the following reasons:
>>>
>>> * Segue's SilkXxx web testing suite seems to clash on the trademark.
>>>
>>> * General lack of response on PRC on the trademark issue. We lack decision
>>> making on the grey line at the moment - but after having this sit on the
>>> back burner for many months I'm of the opinion that we clash too much with
>>> the Segue trademark.
>>>
>>> * Jakarta Web Components matches Jakarta Http Components in pattern and
>>> fits the proposals I've made on restructuring Jakarta (ie: they're both
>>> groupings).
>>>
>>> So I'd like to suggest we go ahead with Jakarta Web Components.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts? And sorry for taking so long to bring this up, it's been on
>>> my todo list since ApacheCon.
>>>
>>> Hen
>>>
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Re: [RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject
Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>.
I'd also prefer a one-word catchy name to something uber-geeky like
Web Components, so if we really can't use Silk we can come up with
some other options and have a new vote...
Yoav
On 2/27/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> I've come to understand that a name Apache FOO does not violate the
> trademark FOO. As such, I don't think there's any problem with Apache
> Silk.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 00:49 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote:
> >
> > > Apache Silk it is:
> > >
> > > [17] Apache Silk
> > > [ 0] Apache Web Bricks
> > > [ 0] Apache Web Commons (branding issue with Commons)
> > > [ 3] Apache Web Components
> > > [ 0] Apache Web Parts (conflict with Microsoft and sf.net)
> > >
> > > 20 +1 votes with 1 abstainer.
> > >
> > > So now we can finish the proposal, get it voted on and start with the fun
> > > stuff.
> >
> > Okay. I've been unable to get this resolved - for the following reasons:
> >
> > * Segue's SilkXxx web testing suite seems to clash on the trademark.
> >
> > * General lack of response on PRC on the trademark issue. We lack decision
> > making on the grey line at the moment - but after having this sit on the
> > back burner for many months I'm of the opinion that we clash too much with
> > the Segue trademark.
> >
> > * Jakarta Web Components matches Jakarta Http Components in pattern and
> > fits the proposals I've made on restructuring Jakarta (ie: they're both
> > groupings).
> >
> > So I'd like to suggest we go ahead with Jakarta Web Components.
> >
> > Any thoughts? And sorry for taking so long to bring this up, it's been on
> > my todo list since ApacheCon.
> >
> > Hen
> >
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Re: [RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
Problem is, you're the only person who's come out and said that. Cliff's
not looked into the legalities of trademarks yet and no one on the PRC had
a yes/no answer.
Hen
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> I've come to understand that a name Apache FOO does not violate the
> trademark FOO. As such, I don't think there's any problem with Apache
> Silk.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 00:49 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>
>>> Apache Silk it is:
>>>
>>> [17] Apache Silk
>>> [ 0] Apache Web Bricks
>>> [ 0] Apache Web Commons (branding issue with Commons)
>>> [ 3] Apache Web Components
>>> [ 0] Apache Web Parts (conflict with Microsoft and sf.net)
>>>
>>> 20 +1 votes with 1 abstainer.
>>>
>>> So now we can finish the proposal, get it voted on and start with the fun
>>> stuff.
>>
>> Okay. I've been unable to get this resolved - for the following reasons:
>>
>> * Segue's SilkXxx web testing suite seems to clash on the trademark.
>>
>> * General lack of response on PRC on the trademark issue. We lack decision
>> making on the grey line at the moment - but after having this sit on the
>> back burner for many months I'm of the opinion that we clash too much with
>> the Segue trademark.
>>
>> * Jakarta Web Components matches Jakarta Http Components in pattern and
>> fits the proposals I've made on restructuring Jakarta (ie: they're both
>> groupings).
>>
>> So I'd like to suggest we go ahead with Jakarta Web Components.
>>
>> Any thoughts? And sorry for taking so long to bring this up, it's been on
>> my todo list since ApacheCon.
>>
>> Hen
>>
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Re: [RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
I've come to understand that a name Apache FOO does not violate the
trademark FOO. As such, I don't think there's any problem with Apache
Silk.
Sanjiva.
On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 00:49 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> > Apache Silk it is:
> >
> > [17] Apache Silk
> > [ 0] Apache Web Bricks
> > [ 0] Apache Web Commons (branding issue with Commons)
> > [ 3] Apache Web Components
> > [ 0] Apache Web Parts (conflict with Microsoft and sf.net)
> >
> > 20 +1 votes with 1 abstainer.
> >
> > So now we can finish the proposal, get it voted on and start with the fun
> > stuff.
>
> Okay. I've been unable to get this resolved - for the following reasons:
>
> * Segue's SilkXxx web testing suite seems to clash on the trademark.
>
> * General lack of response on PRC on the trademark issue. We lack decision
> making on the grey line at the moment - but after having this sit on the
> back burner for many months I'm of the opinion that we clash too much with
> the Segue trademark.
>
> * Jakarta Web Components matches Jakarta Http Components in pattern and
> fits the proposals I've made on restructuring Jakarta (ie: they're both
> groupings).
>
> So I'd like to suggest we go ahead with Jakarta Web Components.
>
> Any thoughts? And sorry for taking so long to bring this up, it's been on
> my todo list since ApacheCon.
>
> Hen
>
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Re: [RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote:
> Apache Silk it is:
>
> [17] Apache Silk
> [ 0] Apache Web Bricks
> [ 0] Apache Web Commons (branding issue with Commons)
> [ 3] Apache Web Components
> [ 0] Apache Web Parts (conflict with Microsoft and sf.net)
>
> 20 +1 votes with 1 abstainer.
>
> So now we can finish the proposal, get it voted on and start with the fun
> stuff.
Okay. I've been unable to get this resolved - for the following reasons:
* Segue's SilkXxx web testing suite seems to clash on the trademark.
* General lack of response on PRC on the trademark issue. We lack decision
making on the grey line at the moment - but after having this sit on the
back burner for many months I'm of the opinion that we clash too much with
the Segue trademark.
* Jakarta Web Components matches Jakarta Http Components in pattern and
fits the proposals I've made on restructuring Jakarta (ie: they're both
groupings).
So I'd like to suggest we go ahead with Jakarta Web Components.
Any thoughts? And sorry for taking so long to bring this up, it's been on
my todo list since ApacheCon.
Hen
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RE: [RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Henri,
We should run the name by the PRC, but it should be fine.
--- Noel
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