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Posted to dev@pulsar.apache.org by Aaron Williams <aa...@datastax.com> on 2021/07/23 16:48:42 UTC

Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Hello Apache Pulsar Community,

Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack and how
it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the wider
community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
Overflow.

We would like to suggest-

   1.

   Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
   https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
   2.

   Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you have a
   technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
   3.

   On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack Overflow


Reasons:

   -

   We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
   before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
   -

   We answer the same question over and over.
   -

      We want to make it easier for our community to find the answers.
      -

   Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
   -

   It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if it
   has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find the answer
   quickly.
   -

      Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
      question/answer after 5 weeks


Thoughts?

Thanks,

Aaron Williams

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Sijie Guo <gu...@gmail.com>.
apache-pulsar would be preferred.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 3:54 PM Chris Latimer
<ch...@datastax.com> wrote:
>
> I've also noticed that most Pulsar-related questions on StackOverflow are
> tagged as [apache-pulsar] and sometimes also [pulsar]. Do we want to
> recommend one tag over the other?
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:01 PM Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> > > Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> > >
> > > Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack and
> > how
> > > it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the wider
> > > community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> > > Overflow.
> > >
> > > We would like to suggest-
> > >
> > >    1.
> > >
> > >    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
> > >    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
> > >    2.
> > >
> > >    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you have a
> > >    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
> > >    3.
> > >
> > >    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack Overflow
> > >
> > >
> > > Reasons:
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
> > >    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    We answer the same question over and over.
> > >    -
> > >
> > >       We want to make it easier for our community to find the answers.
> > >       -
> > >
> > >    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if it
> > >    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find the
> > answer
> > >    quickly.
> > >    -
> > >
> > >       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
> > >       question/answer after 5 weeks
> > >
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Aaron Williams
> > >
> >

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Jinfeng Huang <hj...@streamnative.io.INVALID>.
It's a good idea to move to Stack Overflow.
Maybe we can recommend that everyone use the tag "apache-pulsar", which
shows the full product name and avoids ambiguity; meanwhile, users might
prefer to use hyphens, taking "apache-kafka" as reference.

Besides, if users search "pulsar" or "apache pulsar", the related results
are also displayed, and do not affect the search results.

Here are the search result of Pulsar on Stack Overflow
<https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=pulsar>:

   - pulsar: 500 results, which includes search results of "apache-pulsar"
   and "apache pulsar".
   - apache-pulsar: 362 results
   - apache pulsar: 171 results

Here are the search result of Kafka on Stack Overflow
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-kafka>:

   - kafka: 500 results
   - apache kafka: 500 results
   - apache-kafka: 24621 results

Best Regards,
Jennifer


On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 11:08 AM rxl@apache.org <ra...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Good ideas, we had the same idea before, but for some reason, we stagnated.
> It would be a very good job to reopen here.
>
> We already have a tag tracking related issues before, refer to:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-pulsar. We can consider
> continuing to use this tag.
>
> --
>
> Thanks
> Xiaolong Ran
>
> Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com> 于2021年7月24日周六 上午6:54写道:
>
> > I've also noticed that most Pulsar-related questions on StackOverflow are
> > tagged as [apache-pulsar] and sometimes also [pulsar]. Do we want to
> > recommend one tag over the other?
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:01 PM Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> > > > Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> > > >
> > > > Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack
> and
> > > how
> > > > it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the
> > wider
> > > > community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> > > > Overflow.
> > > >
> > > > We would like to suggest-
> > > >
> > > >    1.
> > > >
> > > >    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
> > > >    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
> > > >    2.
> > > >
> > > >    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you
> have a
> > > >    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
> > > >    3.
> > > >
> > > >    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack
> Overflow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Reasons:
> > > >
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
> > > >    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >    We answer the same question over and over.
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >       We want to make it easier for our community to find the
> answers.
> > > >       -
> > > >
> > > >    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if
> > it
> > > >    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find
> the
> > > answer
> > > >    quickly.
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
> > > >       question/answer after 5 weeks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Aaron Williams
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Chris Herzog <ch...@tibco.com.INVALID>.
I agree as well - we need to be cognizant of perception and this is a good
step in a positive direction towards addressing that.

Pulsar *is* competitive with Kafka in many ways but Kafka tends to suck up
a lot of the oxygen...

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 10:09 AM Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com>
wrote:

> That's a really good point, Christophe. That was called out in a recent
> article on TheNewStack comparing Pulsar and Kafka:
>
> https://thenewstack.io/pulsar-takes-on-kafka-with-uniform-architecture-speed/
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 7:09 AM Christophe Bornet <bo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > A very important point that hasn't been mentioned yet about moving to
> SoF :
> > the number of issues on SoF is regularly used as a metric of the maturity
> > of a project.
> > And maturity of the project is a point that is often taken against Pulsar
> > compared to other competing technologies. I know it first hand since it
> has
> > been an argument that was opposed to me in my previous company by people
> > who wanted to stay on Kafka (despite all the operating issues we had...).
> > So +100 to go to SoF !
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > Christophe
> >
> > Le mar. 27 juil. 2021 à 10:59, Devin Bost <de...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> >
> > > What are some of the most commonly asked questions or kinds of
> questions?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Devin G. Bost
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 1:34 AM Anonymitaet _ <an...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Great idea.
> > > >
> > > > For the "contact" page, we can add "Pulsar community meeting info" (
> > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/wiki/Community-Meetings) there as
> > well.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a good example of the "community" page:
> > > > https://cassandra.apache.org/community/.
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: rxl@apache.org <ra...@gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 11:08
> > > > To: Dev <de...@pulsar.apache.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow
> > > >
> > > > Good ideas, we had the same idea before, but for some reason, we
> > > stagnated.
> > > > It would be a very good job to reopen here.
> > > >
> > > > We already have a tag tracking related issues before, refer to:
> > > >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stackoverflow.com_questions_tagged_apache-2Dpulsar&d=DwIFaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=hXwUo08MMkKWtyhXcYk5QTdO0d5mkkcEe-LpcFU05mA&m=oBdrA2No1uLVrl0768xKcblT8WGwaOdBLaud73RXraI&s=1jkBk-oHCTrVEa5fJIYm8JTB-s2a0e-vuz_iRnr9kTU&e=
> > . We can
> > > consider
> > > > continuing to use this tag.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Xiaolong Ran
> > > >
> > > > Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com> 于2021年7月24日周六 上午6:54写道:
> > > >
> > > > > I've also noticed that most Pulsar-related questions on
> StackOverflow
> > > are
> > > > > tagged as [apache-pulsar] and sometimes also [pulsar]. Do we want
> to
> > > > > recommend one tag over the other?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:01 PM Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Many of us community members were having a conversation about
> > Slack
> > > > and
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > > it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from
> > the
> > > > > wider
> > > > > > > community and we should try to push more of the questions to
> > Stack
> > > > > > > Overflow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We would like to suggest-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the
> > website:
> > > > > > >    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
> > > > > > >    2.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if
> you
> > > > have a
> > > > > > >    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
> > > > > > >    3.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack
> > > > Overflow
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Reasons:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all
> > > questions/answers
> > > > > > >    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
> > > > > > >    -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    We answer the same question over and over.
> > > > > > >    -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >       We want to make it easier for our community to find the
> > > > answers.
> > > > > > >       -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
> > > > > > >    -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google
> > and
> > > if
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will
> > find
> > > > the
> > > > > > answer
> > > > > > >    quickly.
> > > > > > >    -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
> > > > > > >       question/answer after 5 weeks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aaron Williams
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com>.
That's a really good point, Christophe. That was called out in a recent
article on TheNewStack comparing Pulsar and Kafka:
https://thenewstack.io/pulsar-takes-on-kafka-with-uniform-architecture-speed/

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 7:09 AM Christophe Bornet <bo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A very important point that hasn't been mentioned yet about moving to SoF :
> the number of issues on SoF is regularly used as a metric of the maturity
> of a project.
> And maturity of the project is a point that is often taken against Pulsar
> compared to other competing technologies. I know it first hand since it has
> been an argument that was opposed to me in my previous company by people
> who wanted to stay on Kafka (despite all the operating issues we had...).
> So +100 to go to SoF !
>
> Best regards.
>
> Christophe
>
> Le mar. 27 juil. 2021 à 10:59, Devin Bost <de...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> > What are some of the most commonly asked questions or kinds of questions?
> >
> > --
> > Devin G. Bost
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 1:34 AM Anonymitaet _ <an...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Great idea.
> > >
> > > For the "contact" page, we can add "Pulsar community meeting info" (
> > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/wiki/Community-Meetings) there as
> well.
> > >
> > > Here is a good example of the "community" page:
> > > https://cassandra.apache.org/community/.
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: rxl@apache.org <ra...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 11:08
> > > To: Dev <de...@pulsar.apache.org>
> > > Subject: Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow
> > >
> > > Good ideas, we had the same idea before, but for some reason, we
> > stagnated.
> > > It would be a very good job to reopen here.
> > >
> > > We already have a tag tracking related issues before, refer to:
> > >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stackoverflow.com_questions_tagged_apache-2Dpulsar&d=DwIFaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=hXwUo08MMkKWtyhXcYk5QTdO0d5mkkcEe-LpcFU05mA&m=oBdrA2No1uLVrl0768xKcblT8WGwaOdBLaud73RXraI&s=1jkBk-oHCTrVEa5fJIYm8JTB-s2a0e-vuz_iRnr9kTU&e=
> . We can
> > consider
> > > continuing to use this tag.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Xiaolong Ran
> > >
> > > Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com> 于2021年7月24日周六 上午6:54写道:
> > >
> > > > I've also noticed that most Pulsar-related questions on StackOverflow
> > are
> > > > tagged as [apache-pulsar] and sometimes also [pulsar]. Do we want to
> > > > recommend one tag over the other?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:01 PM Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> > > > > > Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many of us community members were having a conversation about
> Slack
> > > and
> > > > > how
> > > > > > it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from
> the
> > > > wider
> > > > > > community and we should try to push more of the questions to
> Stack
> > > > > > Overflow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We would like to suggest-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the
> website:
> > > > > >    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
> > > > > >    2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you
> > > have a
> > > > > >    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
> > > > > >    3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack
> > > Overflow
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reasons:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all
> > questions/answers
> > > > > >    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
> > > > > >    -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    We answer the same question over and over.
> > > > > >    -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       We want to make it easier for our community to find the
> > > answers.
> > > > > >       -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
> > > > > >    -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google
> and
> > if
> > > > it
> > > > > >    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will
> find
> > > the
> > > > > answer
> > > > > >    quickly.
> > > > > >    -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
> > > > > >       question/answer after 5 weeks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aaron Williams
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Christophe Bornet <bo...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,

A very important point that hasn't been mentioned yet about moving to SoF :
the number of issues on SoF is regularly used as a metric of the maturity
of a project.
And maturity of the project is a point that is often taken against Pulsar
compared to other competing technologies. I know it first hand since it has
been an argument that was opposed to me in my previous company by people
who wanted to stay on Kafka (despite all the operating issues we had...).
So +100 to go to SoF !

Best regards.

Christophe

Le mar. 27 juil. 2021 à 10:59, Devin Bost <de...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> What are some of the most commonly asked questions or kinds of questions?
>
> --
> Devin G. Bost
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 1:34 AM Anonymitaet _ <an...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Great idea.
> >
> > For the "contact" page, we can add "Pulsar community meeting info" (
> > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/wiki/Community-Meetings) there as well.
> >
> > Here is a good example of the "community" page:
> > https://cassandra.apache.org/community/.
> > ________________________________
> > From: rxl@apache.org <ra...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 11:08
> > To: Dev <de...@pulsar.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow
> >
> > Good ideas, we had the same idea before, but for some reason, we
> stagnated.
> > It would be a very good job to reopen here.
> >
> > We already have a tag tracking related issues before, refer to:
> > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-pulsar. We can
> consider
> > continuing to use this tag.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Thanks
> > Xiaolong Ran
> >
> > Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com> 于2021年7月24日周六 上午6:54写道:
> >
> > > I've also noticed that most Pulsar-related questions on StackOverflow
> are
> > > tagged as [apache-pulsar] and sometimes also [pulsar]. Do we want to
> > > recommend one tag over the other?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:01 PM Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> > > > > Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> > > > >
> > > > > Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack
> > and
> > > > how
> > > > > it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the
> > > wider
> > > > > community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> > > > > Overflow.
> > > > >
> > > > > We would like to suggest-
> > > > >
> > > > >    1.
> > > > >
> > > > >    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
> > > > >    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
> > > > >    2.
> > > > >
> > > > >    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you
> > have a
> > > > >    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
> > > > >    3.
> > > > >
> > > > >    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack
> > Overflow
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Reasons:
> > > > >
> > > > >    -
> > > > >
> > > > >    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all
> questions/answers
> > > > >    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
> > > > >    -
> > > > >
> > > > >    We answer the same question over and over.
> > > > >    -
> > > > >
> > > > >       We want to make it easier for our community to find the
> > answers.
> > > > >       -
> > > > >
> > > > >    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
> > > > >    -
> > > > >
> > > > >    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and
> if
> > > it
> > > > >    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find
> > the
> > > > answer
> > > > >    quickly.
> > > > >    -
> > > > >
> > > > >       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
> > > > >       question/answer after 5 weeks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Aaron Williams
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Devin Bost <de...@gmail.com>.
What are some of the most commonly asked questions or kinds of questions?

--
Devin G. Bost

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 1:34 AM Anonymitaet _ <an...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Great idea.
>
> For the "contact" page, we can add "Pulsar community meeting info" (
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/wiki/Community-Meetings) there as well.
>
> Here is a good example of the "community" page:
> https://cassandra.apache.org/community/.
> ________________________________
> From: rxl@apache.org <ra...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 11:08
> To: Dev <de...@pulsar.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow
>
> Good ideas, we had the same idea before, but for some reason, we stagnated.
> It would be a very good job to reopen here.
>
> We already have a tag tracking related issues before, refer to:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-pulsar. We can consider
> continuing to use this tag.
>
> --
>
> Thanks
> Xiaolong Ran
>
> Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com> 于2021年7月24日周六 上午6:54写道:
>
> > I've also noticed that most Pulsar-related questions on StackOverflow are
> > tagged as [apache-pulsar] and sometimes also [pulsar]. Do we want to
> > recommend one tag over the other?
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:01 PM Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> > > > Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> > > >
> > > > Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack
> and
> > > how
> > > > it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the
> > wider
> > > > community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> > > > Overflow.
> > > >
> > > > We would like to suggest-
> > > >
> > > >    1.
> > > >
> > > >    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
> > > >    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
> > > >    2.
> > > >
> > > >    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you
> have a
> > > >    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
> > > >    3.
> > > >
> > > >    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack
> Overflow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Reasons:
> > > >
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
> > > >    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >    We answer the same question over and over.
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >       We want to make it easier for our community to find the
> answers.
> > > >       -
> > > >
> > > >    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if
> > it
> > > >    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find
> the
> > > answer
> > > >    quickly.
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
> > > >       question/answer after 5 weeks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Aaron Williams
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Sijie Guo <gu...@gmail.com>.
Yu,

Do you want to submit PRs to update those pages?

- Sijie

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:34 AM Anonymitaet _ <an...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Great idea.
>
> For the "contact" page, we can add "Pulsar community meeting info" (https://github.com/apache/pulsar/wiki/Community-Meetings) there as well.
>
> Here is a good example of the "community" page: https://cassandra.apache.org/community/.
> ________________________________
> From: rxl@apache.org <ra...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 11:08
> To: Dev <de...@pulsar.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow
>
> Good ideas, we had the same idea before, but for some reason, we stagnated.
> It would be a very good job to reopen here.
>
> We already have a tag tracking related issues before, refer to:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-pulsar. We can consider
> continuing to use this tag.
>
> --
>
> Thanks
> Xiaolong Ran
>
> Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com> 于2021年7月24日周六 上午6:54写道:
>
> > I've also noticed that most Pulsar-related questions on StackOverflow are
> > tagged as [apache-pulsar] and sometimes also [pulsar]. Do we want to
> > recommend one tag over the other?
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:01 PM Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> > > > Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> > > >
> > > > Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack and
> > > how
> > > > it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the
> > wider
> > > > community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> > > > Overflow.
> > > >
> > > > We would like to suggest-
> > > >
> > > >    1.
> > > >
> > > >    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
> > > >    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
> > > >    2.
> > > >
> > > >    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you have a
> > > >    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
> > > >    3.
> > > >
> > > >    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack Overflow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Reasons:
> > > >
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
> > > >    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >    We answer the same question over and over.
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >       We want to make it easier for our community to find the answers.
> > > >       -
> > > >
> > > >    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if
> > it
> > > >    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find the
> > > answer
> > > >    quickly.
> > > >    -
> > > >
> > > >       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
> > > >       question/answer after 5 weeks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Aaron Williams
> > > >
> > >
> >

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Anonymitaet _ <an...@hotmail.com>.
Hi all,

Great idea.

For the "contact" page, we can add "Pulsar community meeting info" (https://github.com/apache/pulsar/wiki/Community-Meetings) there as well.

Here is a good example of the "community" page: https://cassandra.apache.org/community/.
________________________________
From: rxl@apache.org <ra...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 11:08
To: Dev <de...@pulsar.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Good ideas, we had the same idea before, but for some reason, we stagnated.
It would be a very good job to reopen here.

We already have a tag tracking related issues before, refer to:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-pulsar. We can consider
continuing to use this tag.

--

Thanks
Xiaolong Ran

Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com> 于2021年7月24日周六 上午6:54写道:

> I've also noticed that most Pulsar-related questions on StackOverflow are
> tagged as [apache-pulsar] and sometimes also [pulsar]. Do we want to
> recommend one tag over the other?
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:01 PM Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> > > Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> > >
> > > Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack and
> > how
> > > it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the
> wider
> > > community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> > > Overflow.
> > >
> > > We would like to suggest-
> > >
> > >    1.
> > >
> > >    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
> > >    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
> > >    2.
> > >
> > >    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you have a
> > >    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
> > >    3.
> > >
> > >    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack Overflow
> > >
> > >
> > > Reasons:
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
> > >    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    We answer the same question over and over.
> > >    -
> > >
> > >       We want to make it easier for our community to find the answers.
> > >       -
> > >
> > >    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if
> it
> > >    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find the
> > answer
> > >    quickly.
> > >    -
> > >
> > >       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
> > >       question/answer after 5 weeks
> > >
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Aaron Williams
> > >
> >
>

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by "rxl@apache.org" <ra...@gmail.com>.
Good ideas, we had the same idea before, but for some reason, we stagnated.
It would be a very good job to reopen here.

We already have a tag tracking related issues before, refer to:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/apache-pulsar. We can consider
continuing to use this tag.

--

Thanks
Xiaolong Ran

Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com> 于2021年7月24日周六 上午6:54写道:

> I've also noticed that most Pulsar-related questions on StackOverflow are
> tagged as [apache-pulsar] and sometimes also [pulsar]. Do we want to
> recommend one tag over the other?
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:01 PM Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> > > Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> > >
> > > Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack and
> > how
> > > it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the
> wider
> > > community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> > > Overflow.
> > >
> > > We would like to suggest-
> > >
> > >    1.
> > >
> > >    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
> > >    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
> > >    2.
> > >
> > >    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you have a
> > >    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
> > >    3.
> > >
> > >    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack Overflow
> > >
> > >
> > > Reasons:
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
> > >    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    We answer the same question over and over.
> > >    -
> > >
> > >       We want to make it easier for our community to find the answers.
> > >       -
> > >
> > >    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if
> it
> > >    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find the
> > answer
> > >    quickly.
> > >    -
> > >
> > >       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
> > >       question/answer after 5 weeks
> > >
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Aaron Williams
> > >
> >
>

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Chris Latimer <ch...@datastax.com>.
I've also noticed that most Pulsar-related questions on StackOverflow are
tagged as [apache-pulsar] and sometimes also [pulsar]. Do we want to
recommend one tag over the other?

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 4:01 PM Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:

> +1
>
> On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> > Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> >
> > Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack and
> how
> > it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the wider
> > community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> > Overflow.
> >
> > We would like to suggest-
> >
> >    1.
> >
> >    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
> >    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
> >    2.
> >
> >    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you have a
> >    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
> >    3.
> >
> >    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack Overflow
> >
> >
> > Reasons:
> >
> >    -
> >
> >    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
> >    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
> >    -
> >
> >    We answer the same question over and over.
> >    -
> >
> >       We want to make it easier for our community to find the answers.
> >       -
> >
> >    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
> >    -
> >
> >    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if it
> >    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find the
> answer
> >    quickly.
> >    -
> >
> >       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
> >       question/answer after 5 weeks
> >
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Aaron Williams
> >
>

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org>.
+1

On 2021/07/23 16:48:42 Aaron Williams wrote:
> Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
> 
> Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack and how
> it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the wider
> community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> Overflow.
> 
> We would like to suggest-
> 
>    1.
> 
>    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
>    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
>    2.
> 
>    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you have a
>    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
>    3.
> 
>    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack Overflow
> 
> 
> Reasons:
> 
>    -
> 
>    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
>    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
>    -
> 
>    We answer the same question over and over.
>    -
> 
>       We want to make it easier for our community to find the answers.
>       -
> 
>    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
>    -
> 
>    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if it
>    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find the answer
>    quickly.
>    -
> 
>       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
>       question/answer after 5 weeks
> 
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Aaron Williams
> 

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Devin Bost <de...@gmail.com>.
I agree with this move.

Devin Bost

(Sent from mobile)



________________________________
From: Sijie Guo <gu...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:35:34 PM
To: Dev <de...@pulsar.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Aaron,

That is a very valuable point. +1

Just FYI, we have been encouraging people to ask questions in
StackOverflow. But it doesn't work out well.

- Sijie


On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 9:49 AM Aaron Williams
<aa...@datastax.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
>
> Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack and how
> it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the wider
> community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> Overflow.
>
> We would like to suggest-
>
>    1.
>
>    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
>    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
>    2.
>
>    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you have a
>    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
>    3.
>
>    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack Overflow
>
>
> Reasons:
>
>    -
>
>    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
>    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
>    -
>
>    We answer the same question over and over.
>    -
>
>       We want to make it easier for our community to find the answers.
>       -
>
>    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
>    -
>
>    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if it
>    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find the answer
>    quickly.
>    -
>
>       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
>       question/answer after 5 weeks
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron Williams

Re: Moving questions from Slack to Stack Overflow

Posted by Sijie Guo <gu...@gmail.com>.
Aaron,

That is a very valuable point. +1

Just FYI, we have been encouraging people to ask questions in
StackOverflow. But it doesn't work out well.

- Sijie


On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 9:49 AM Aaron Williams
<aa...@datastax.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Apache Pulsar Community,
>
> Many of us community members were having a conversation about Slack and how
> it is not working very well as a tool to answer questions from the wider
> community and we should try to push more of the questions to Stack
> Overflow.
>
> We would like to suggest-
>
>    1.
>
>    Add a link to stack overflow to the contact page of the website:
>    https://pulsar.apache.org/en/contact/
>    2.
>
>    Add text to the webpage stating that we recommend that if you have a
>    technical question, please ask it on Stack Overflow
>    3.
>
>    On Slack, we encourage them to post their question to Stack Overflow
>
>
> Reasons:
>
>    -
>
>    We are on the free version of Slack and thus all questions/answers
>    before the middle of June are lost (10k messages max).
>    -
>
>    We answer the same question over and over.
>    -
>
>       We want to make it easier for our community to find the answers.
>       -
>
>    Developers expect answers to be on Stack Overflow
>    -
>
>    It is easier to copy and paste an error message into Google and if it
>    has been posted to Stack Overflow, then the questioner will find the answer
>    quickly.
>    -
>
>       Slack is not searchable by Google, plus we won’t lose the
>       question/answer after 5 weeks
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron Williams