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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> on 2014/05/21 00:47:40 UTC

[FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Hi,

So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.  Several
folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme for
FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has design
skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button, checkbox, radio
button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator file for
review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have discussion
and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least you'll have
bragging rights.

Thanks in advance,
-Alex


RE: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by ma...@usmc.mil.
I like simple, but can we get borders so something to make them pop away from the background... I assume this will be taken care of with over/down/selected styles.

-Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Frédéric THOMAS [mailto:webdoublefx@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:56 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and twitter recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark

Frédéric THOMAS

> From: aharui@adobe.com
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: [FlexJS]  Designers needed for default theme
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:47:40 +0000
>
> Hi,
>
> So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.  Several
> folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme for
> FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has design
> skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button, checkbox, radio
> button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator file for
> review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have discussion
> and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least you'll have
> bragging rights.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Alex
>


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com>.
On 20/05/14 23:56, Frédéric THOMAS wrote:
> There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and twitter recentlyhttps://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
Hopefully the requirement for Flash Player 13 is just their end :-)

Tom,
that Linux Guy with Flash Player 11

RE: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
+1

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On 5/20/14 3:56 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and twitter 
>recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
The author would have to donate it to Apache, but if folks like it, we can ask.

-Alex


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Vincent Sotto <ds...@gmail.com>.
the theme is awesome


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 5/20/14 3:56 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and twitter
> >recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
> The author would have to donate it to Apache, but if folks like it, we can
> ask.
>
> -Alex
>
>

Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.

On 5/20/14 3:56 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and twitter
>recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
The author would have to donate it to Apache, but if folks like it, we can
ask.

-Alex


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
FlatUI is written by DesignModo, and I am not affiliated with them.

I wrote new source code to implement their visuals, withouth copying it
from their source code.

FlatSpark does not have any dependency on Bootstrap.

All the code is just ActionScript + some CSS.

Donating just the skins might be a simpler process then.

Thanks.


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Hi Mahmoud,
>
> Let me see if I understand:
>
> Was Flat-UI written by some other group of people, maybe a group called
> DesignModo, and you are not affiliated with them?
>
> Did you just write new source code to implement their visuals?
>
> Does your source code have dependencies on BootStrap?
>
> Is your code written in ActionScript, JavaScript or both?
>
> IMO, it would be better to not donate new components that might have a
> complicated history.  You can probably donate or re-create those later
> with a much simpler process.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
>

Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Hi Mahmoud,

Let me see if I understand:

Was Flat-UI written by some other group of people, maybe a group called
DesignModo, and you are not affiliated with them?

Did you just write new source code to implement their visuals?

Does your source code have dependencies on BootStrap?

Is your code written in ActionScript, JavaScript or both?

IMO, it would be better to not donate new components that might have a
complicated history.  You can probably donate or re-create those later
with a much simpler process.

Thanks,
-Alex

On 9/2/14 9:30 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I would like to donate the entire source code.
>It is actually based on FlatUI, which is open-source but under CC 3.0 and
>MIT License. While it is not a fork, all the color schemes are based on
>this. (https://github.com/designmodo/Flat-UI)
>
>We had planned a version of BootFlat but other things got in the way and
>we
>ended up not doing much progress. I remember that some people showed more
>interest in the BootFlat skin, so if you decide BootFlat should be the
>default skin, it would take a few weeks to get it ready.
>
>Regarding FlatSpark, there are some custom components we made, like
>ButtonIcon, TextInputIcon and ToggleSwitch, would this be donated too,
>since they are not official SDK implementations?
>I'm asking this because I remember that some custom components used some
>examples from the internet (which I think could be a problem when
>donating), so if there is no interest in them, it will make the first step
>easier.
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> > I believe we are still interested.  Can you re-cap what you would
>>plan to
>> > donate?  Is it still derived from BootFlat?
>> >
>> > I have just completed processing the donation of Radii8 from Judah
>> > Frangipane.  I think I now have cycles to work with you on this
>>donation
>> > if you want my assistance.  (You don't have to pick me, there's
>>plenty of
>> > documentation and other folks who might be interested in helping).
>> Either
>> > way, I think the next steps are:
>> >
>> > 1) Review the files you plan to donate to determine their provenance
>> > (essentially, who is the owner and what licenses might apply).  Apache
>> can
>> > only accept certain licenses.  If you have questions, ask on the
>>mailing
>> > list, but feel free to ask me off-list in case names of people come
>>up or
>> > some mis-handling of IP is discovered.  It doesn't have to be
>>thorough or
>> > exacting: you don't have to go through every file, but we want to make
>> > sure the important ones have a good chance of getting through the
>> process.
>> > 2) Once it looks like there aren't any blockers, there has to be a
>>formal
>> > vote.  Of course, if someone comes up with an objection on this
>>thread,
>> > that might end the discussion right there.
>> > 3) Once the vote results come out in favor, then you will have to fill
>> out
>> > certain forms which may involve getting signatures from people with
>> > authority to sign contracts.  For example, at Adobe, I have to get a
>>VP
>> to
>> > sign the grant form.  One of the forms requires some description of
>>the
>> > files so this is when you do have to scrub every file to make sure
>>every
>> > file you plan to donate has, to the best of your knowledge, a
>>provenance
>> > that is acceptable to Apache.
>> > 4) Once the forms and files are ready, the signed forms get submitted
>>to
>> > Apache.  Once recorded, someone, usually me, prepares another form
>>that
>> > another group at Apache called the Incubator reviews along with the
>> files.
>> >  In preparation for this review, the files get scrubbed again, this
>>time
>> > with an eye towards how Apache handles source files.  Sometimes,
>>certain
>> > files will need to be removed or modified.  Finally, once the review
>> > determines there are no further issues, the code will land in an
>>Apache
>> > repo.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> > -Alex


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
OK.  Sounds like the code is in good shape although it might be better to
leave ToggleSwitch behind for now.

In skimming older parts of this thread, looks like there might be some
difference in opinion on FlatSpark vs BootFlat.  I'll start a DISCUSS
thread to try to sort that out before we run a VOTE.

-Alex

On 9/2/14 10:10 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>ButtonIcon and TextInputIcon were implemented based on Button and
>TextInput, no other examples were used, so I think those are fine.
>ToogleSwitch was implemented based on the example from this post:
>http://yonaskolb.com/blog/2012/1/18/flex-toggle-switch-spark-skin.html
>There is a reference to it in the code header, but there is no license
>notice in the example itself. I tried to contact the author about this,
>still no answer.
>I made some modifications to ToggleSwitch, as there was a bug in the
>original example which I fixed for FlatSpark. I think this file might be
>more troublesome.
>
>
>On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just had a quick look and it looks like it would be reasonably easy to
>> donate, and IMO the zip from github is probably in good enough form to
>>be
>> the donation. A few files would need to be removed from it for the final
>> grant.
>>
>> Here's what I can see:
>> - The original inspiration is under CC/MIT so that's fine. As far as I
>>can
>> tell no code was copied or modified. May be polite to add an addition to
>> LICENSE file after donation.
>> - The code is already Apache licensed
>> - Code is missing Apache headers but that can be done after donation
>> - A few compiled swf examples and expressInstall.swf would need to be
>> removed, again that can be done after donation
>> - There's no images or other binaries that would cause any copyright
>>issues
>> - Both of the fonts you use (FontAwesome and Lato) are licensed under
>>SIL
>> OFL (Category B) After donation a small  modification to the LICENSE
>>would
>> be required I think.
>>
>> Re the examples ButtonIcon, TextInputIcon and ToggleSwitch do you know
>> were the original code came from? Depending on how that's licensed an
>>how
>> much you have modified this these file may or may be able to be
>>accepted by
>> Apache. Either way I'm sure it's something that can be worked out.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Justin


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

> ButtonIcon and TextInputIcon were implemented based on Button and
> TextInput, no other examples were used, so I think those are fine.

Looks fine to me.

> ToogleSwitch was implemented based on the example from this post:
> http://yonaskolb.com/blog/2012/1/18/flex-toggle-switch-spark-skin.html

Yes we would need the owner to give permission / relicense it before we could use it or just remove from that file from the donation.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
ButtonIcon and TextInputIcon were implemented based on Button and
TextInput, no other examples were used, so I think those are fine.
ToogleSwitch was implemented based on the example from this post:
http://yonaskolb.com/blog/2012/1/18/flex-toggle-switch-spark-skin.html
There is a reference to it in the code header, but there is no license
notice in the example itself. I tried to contact the author about this,
still no answer.
I made some modifications to ToggleSwitch, as there was a bug in the
original example which I fixed for FlatSpark. I think this file might be
more troublesome.


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just had a quick look and it looks like it would be reasonably easy to
> donate, and IMO the zip from github is probably in good enough form to be
> the donation. A few files would need to be removed from it for the final
> grant.
>
> Here's what I can see:
> - The original inspiration is under CC/MIT so that's fine. As far as I can
> tell no code was copied or modified. May be polite to add an addition to
> LICENSE file after donation.
> - The code is already Apache licensed
> - Code is missing Apache headers but that can be done after donation
> - A few compiled swf examples and expressInstall.swf would need to be
> removed, again that can be done after donation
> - There's no images or other binaries that would cause any copyright issues
> - Both of the fonts you use (FontAwesome and Lato) are licensed under SIL
> OFL (Category B) After donation a small  modification to the LICENSE would
> be required I think.
>
> Re the examples ButtonIcon, TextInputIcon and ToggleSwitch do you know
> were the original code came from? Depending on how that's licensed an how
> much you have modified this these file may or may be able to be accepted by
> Apache. Either way I'm sure it's something that can be worked out.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin

Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

Just had a quick look and it looks like it would be reasonably easy to donate, and IMO the zip from github is probably in good enough form to be the donation. A few files would need to be removed from it for the final grant.

Here's what I can see:
- The original inspiration is under CC/MIT so that's fine. As far as I can tell no code was copied or modified. May be polite to add an addition to LICENSE file after donation.
- The code is already Apache licensed
- Code is missing Apache headers but that can be done after donation
- A few compiled swf examples and expressInstall.swf would need to be removed, again that can be done after donation
- There's no images or other binaries that would cause any copyright issues
- Both of the fonts you use (FontAwesome and Lato) are licensed under SIL OFL (Category B) After donation a small  modification to the LICENSE would be required I think.

Re the examples ButtonIcon, TextInputIcon and ToggleSwitch do you know were the original code came from? Depending on how that's licensed an how much you have modified this these file may or may be able to be accepted by Apache. Either way I'm sure it's something that can be worked out.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
I would like to donate the entire source code.
It is actually based on FlatUI, which is open-source but under CC 3.0 and
MIT License. While it is not a fork, all the color schemes are based on
this. (https://github.com/designmodo/Flat-UI)

We had planned a version of BootFlat but other things got in the way and we
ended up not doing much progress. I remember that some people showed more
interest in the BootFlat skin, so if you decide BootFlat should be the
default skin, it would take a few weeks to get it ready.

Regarding FlatSpark, there are some custom components we made, like
ButtonIcon, TextInputIcon and ToggleSwitch, would this be donated too,
since they are not official SDK implementations?
I'm asking this because I remember that some custom components used some
examples from the internet (which I think could be a problem when
donating), so if there is no interest in them, it will make the first step
easier.


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> > I believe we are still interested.  Can you re-cap what you would plan to
> > donate?  Is it still derived from BootFlat?
> >
> > I have just completed processing the donation of Radii8 from Judah
> > Frangipane.  I think I now have cycles to work with you on this donation
> > if you want my assistance.  (You don't have to pick me, there's plenty of
> > documentation and other folks who might be interested in helping).
> Either
> > way, I think the next steps are:
> >
> > 1) Review the files you plan to donate to determine their provenance
> > (essentially, who is the owner and what licenses might apply).  Apache
> can
> > only accept certain licenses.  If you have questions, ask on the mailing
> > list, but feel free to ask me off-list in case names of people come up or
> > some mis-handling of IP is discovered.  It doesn't have to be thorough or
> > exacting: you don't have to go through every file, but we want to make
> > sure the important ones have a good chance of getting through the
> process.
> > 2) Once it looks like there aren't any blockers, there has to be a formal
> > vote.  Of course, if someone comes up with an objection on this thread,
> > that might end the discussion right there.
> > 3) Once the vote results come out in favor, then you will have to fill
> out
> > certain forms which may involve getting signatures from people with
> > authority to sign contracts.  For example, at Adobe, I have to get a VP
> to
> > sign the grant form.  One of the forms requires some description of the
> > files so this is when you do have to scrub every file to make sure every
> > file you plan to donate has, to the best of your knowledge, a provenance
> > that is acceptable to Apache.
> > 4) Once the forms and files are ready, the signed forms get submitted to
> > Apache.  Once recorded, someone, usually me, prepares another form that
> > another group at Apache called the Incubator reviews along with the
> files.
> >  In preparation for this review, the files get scrubbed again, this time
> > with an eye towards how Apache handles source files.  Sometimes, certain
> > files will need to be removed or modified.  Finally, once the review
> > determines there are no further issues, the code will land in an Apache
> > repo.
> >
> > HTH,
> > -Alex

Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
I believe we are still interested.  Can you re-cap what you would plan to
donate?  Is it still derived from BootFlat?

I have just completed processing the donation of Radii8 from Judah
Frangipane.  I think I now have cycles to work with you on this donation
if you want my assistance.  (You don't have to pick me, there's plenty of
documentation and other folks who might be interested in helping).  Either
way, I think the next steps are:

1) Review the files you plan to donate to determine their provenance
(essentially, who is the owner and what licenses might apply).  Apache can
only accept certain licenses.  If you have questions, ask on the mailing
list, but feel free to ask me off-list in case names of people come up or
some mis-handling of IP is discovered.  It doesn't have to be thorough or
exacting: you don't have to go through every file, but we want to make
sure the important ones have a good chance of getting through the process.
2) Once it looks like there aren't any blockers, there has to be a formal
vote.  Of course, if someone comes up with an objection on this thread,
that might end the discussion right there.
3) Once the vote results come out in favor, then you will have to fill out
certain forms which may involve getting signatures from people with
authority to sign contracts.  For example, at Adobe, I have to get a VP to
sign the grant form.  One of the forms requires some description of the
files so this is when you do have to scrub every file to make sure every
file you plan to donate has, to the best of your knowledge, a provenance
that is acceptable to Apache.
4) Once the forms and files are ready, the signed forms get submitted to
Apache.  Once recorded, someone, usually me, prepares another form that
another group at Apache called the Incubator reviews along with the files.
 In preparation for this review, the files get scrubbed again, this time
with an eye towards how Apache handles source files.  Sometimes, certain
files will need to be removed or modified.  Finally, once the review
determines there are no further issues, the code will land in an Apache
repo.

HTH,
-Alex

On 9/2/14 7:57 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Unfortunately no updates have been made, but we are still willing to
>donate
>the project.
>
>Does Apache still have interest in using FlatSpark?
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Vincent Sotto [via Apache Flex
>Development] <ml...@n4.nabble.com> wrote:
>
>> is there any flatspark update?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Mahmoud Ali <[hidden email]
>> <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=40350&i=0>> wrote:
>>
>> > > That is good news.  And no pull requests were accepted?
>> >
>> > So far no pull requests were made...
>> >
>> > >Well, BootFlat is a bit different to Apache Flex.  It appears to be
>> owned
>> > >by a corporation.  You are free to create your own Flex version of
>> > >BootFlat because the MIT License allows that, but it will be more
>>work
>> to
>> > >donate it to Apache Flex.  We'll probably have to check with Apache
>> Legal
>> > >as to the rules around that.  But that's moot until we decide we want
>> to
>> > >use BootFlat as the default.
>> >
>> > I see. We will create this starting project so we can get a preview,
>>if
>> > this
>> > skin is chosen then we see what we must do to donate the project.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

> Does Apache still have interest in using FlatSpark?

There are PMC and committers who can help out and it looks like user want it, so while I can't speak for all of Apache, I'd say the answer is yes.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
Unfortunately no updates have been made, but we are still willing to donate
the project.

Does Apache still have interest in using FlatSpark?


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Vincent Sotto [via Apache Flex
Development] <ml...@n4.nabble.com> wrote:

> is there any flatspark update?
>
>
> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Mahmoud Ali <[hidden email]
> <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=40350&i=0>> wrote:
>
> > > That is good news.  And no pull requests were accepted?
> >
> > So far no pull requests were made...
> >
> > >Well, BootFlat is a bit different to Apache Flex.  It appears to be
> owned
> > >by a corporation.  You are free to create your own Flex version of
> > >BootFlat because the MIT License allows that, but it will be more work
> to
> > >donate it to Apache Flex.  We'll probably have to check with Apache
> Legal
> > >as to the rules around that.  But that's moot until we decide we want
> to
> > >use BootFlat as the default.
> >
> > I see. We will create this starting project so we can get a preview, if
> > this
> > skin is chosen then we see what we must do to donate the project.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Vincent Sotto <ds...@gmail.com>.
is there any flatspark update?


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > That is good news.  And no pull requests were accepted?
>
> So far no pull requests were made...
>
> >Well, BootFlat is a bit different to Apache Flex.  It appears to be owned
> >by a corporation.  You are free to create your own Flex version of
> >BootFlat because the MIT License allows that, but it will be more work to
> >donate it to Apache Flex.  We'll probably have to check with Apache Legal
> >as to the rules around that.  But that's moot until we decide we want to
> >use BootFlat as the default.
>
> I see. We will create this starting project so we can get a preview, if
> this
> skin is chosen then we see what we must do to donate the project.
>
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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
> That is good news.  And no pull requests were accepted? 

So far no pull requests were made...

>Well, BootFlat is a bit different to Apache Flex.  It appears to be owned 
>by a corporation.  You are free to create your own Flex version of 
>BootFlat because the MIT License allows that, but it will be more work to 
>donate it to Apache Flex.  We'll probably have to check with Apache Legal 
>as to the rules around that.  But that's moot until we decide we want to 
>use BootFlat as the default. 

I see. We will create this starting project so we can get a preview, if this
skin is chosen then we see what we must do to donate the project. 



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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.

On 5/23/14 10:26 AM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Good news then, it is created by the two of us, no corporations involved.
That is good news.  And no pull requests were accepted?

>The BootFlat we will begin this weekend will follow the same pattern. It
>will be owned by the two of us, no corporations involved, so I hope the
>donation process will be less bureaucratic, hehe.
Well, BootFlat is a bit different to Apache Flex.  It appears to be owned
by a corporation.  You are free to create your own Flex version of
BootFlat because the MIT License allows that, but it will be more work to
donate it to Apache Flex.  We'll probably have to check with Apache Legal
as to the rules around that.  But that's moot until we decide we want to
use BootFlat as the default.

Thanks,
-Alex


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
Good news then, it is created by the two of us, no corporations involved.
The BootFlat we will begin this weekend will follow the same pattern. It
will be owned by the two of us, no corporations involved, so I hope the
donation process will be less bureaucratic, hehe.



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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.

On 5/23/14 9:56 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:

>Oh no! It already started... Let's please (pretty please) make sure the
>legalese doesn't kill the spirit this time round :-(
I hear you.  I debated whether to start the bureaucratic stuff this early
and decided that it would be good to give them a heads up so there isn't a
delay in getting it donated should we choose them as the default FlexJS
theme, and also to ward off disappointment caused by getting all of us
excited about a new theme only to find that it can't be donated.

If this theme is entirely written by two people who are independent from
client or corporate ownership claims then the donation process should be
quite simple.

-Alex


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
>
> >I imagine that this step is bureaucratic and I'll be away for a few
> >moments
> >of codes but no problems! It is a very important step and we're ready to
> >help!
> Yes, it is bureaucratic.  Another question is whether you and akamud truly
> have ownership.  Often, work done for a client is owned by the client.
> And if one or both of you also work for a corporation or other business
> entity, that entity might actually have ownership.
>

Oh no! It already started... Let's please (pretty please) make sure the
legalese doesn't kill the spirit this time round :-(

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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.

On 5/23/14 8:41 AM, "brunopacola" <br...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi Alex, 
>
>I imagine that this step is bureaucratic and I'll be away for a few
>moments
>of codes but no problems! It is a very important step and we're ready to
>help!
Yes, it is bureaucratic.  Another question is whether you and akamud truly
have ownership.  Often, work done for a client is owned by the client.
And if one or both of you also work for a corporation or other business
entity, that entity might actually have ownership.

But until we choose your work as the default theme of FlexJS and want to
get the source in the Apache Flex repo, it doesn't matter.  Until then,
and even after, folks can go use your theme where you have it posted now.

-Alex


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by brunopacola <br...@gmail.com>.
Hi Alex, 

I imagine that this step is bureaucratic and I'll be away for a few moments
of codes but no problems! It is a very important step and we're ready to
help!





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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Hi Mahmoud,

Thanks for your interest in donating FlatSpark to Apache Flex.

This is a legal/policy point for you to consider.  If FlatSpark or
BootFlat is approved as the default FlexJS theme, we will want the
'source' to be donated.  The donation process requires that all
contributors give permission to donate, and that the work is licensed
under Apache License.

As you can imagine, this means a bit more work and paperwork for BootFlat,
but even for FlatSpark, you will need decent documentation of who the
contributors are.  It can get a bit tricky for GitHub and other socially
coded projects because if you took pull requests you will need to track
those folks down and get their permission if they haven't already signed
some document giving up their rights.

It sounds like a hassle, and it sort of is, but we will help you through
it if/when it becomes necessary to execute this process.

Thanks,
-Alex

On 5/23/14 7:48 AM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Cool, Erik! We are glad you also liked BootFlat. =)
>
>Sure!! Let's talk more about this, I'll be waiting for your contact with
>more details.
>
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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
Cool, Erik! We are glad you also liked BootFlat. =)

Sure!! Let's talk more about this, I'll be waiting for your contact with
more details.



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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
If you help out, it will get here faster...

:-)

EdB




On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Vincent Sotto <ds...@gmail.com> wrote:

> responsive boostrap theme like in flex, cant wait
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>
> wrote:
>
> > Very nice! I liked FlatSpark, I think I like BootFlat even more...
> >
> > I would love to work with you to get either of these styles donated and
> > integrated in FlexJS.
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM, akamud <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am one of the authors of FlatSpark and we are very happy with the
> > > community
> > > feedback over the theme. We saw this post and we were got VERY excited,
> > of
> > > course we have TOTAL INTEREST IN CONTRIBUITING AND DONATING THE SKIN to
> > > FlexJS, if there is interest in doing this, we can talk about this
> right
> > > now.
> > > Besides that, we have an excelent suggestion for the Flex contest.
> After
> > we
> > > started FlatSpark, we found out about BootFlat
> > > (http://bootflat.github.io/documentation.html), which is a little bit
> > > different and more friendly for enterprise UI's (we think so, hehe), so
> > we
> > > planned to start another project based on BootFlat's styles. Because of
> > > this
> > > thread we will probably have a preview at the weekend specially for
> you.
> > > But
> > > please, we would like to know, what is your opinion about BootFlat?
> > > Another interesting point is that BootFlat is also open-source, under
> MIT
> > > license, so it would be possible to use it to create a new theme.
> > >
> > >
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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Vincent Sotto <ds...@gmail.com>.
responsive boostrap theme like in flex, cant wait


On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:

> Very nice! I liked FlatSpark, I think I like BootFlat even more...
>
> I would love to work with you to get either of these styles donated and
> integrated in FlexJS.
>
> EdB
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM, akamud <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am one of the authors of FlatSpark and we are very happy with the
> > community
> > feedback over the theme. We saw this post and we were got VERY excited,
> of
> > course we have TOTAL INTEREST IN CONTRIBUITING AND DONATING THE SKIN to
> > FlexJS, if there is interest in doing this, we can talk about this right
> > now.
> > Besides that, we have an excelent suggestion for the Flex contest. After
> we
> > started FlatSpark, we found out about BootFlat
> > (http://bootflat.github.io/documentation.html), which is a little bit
> > different and more friendly for enterprise UI's (we think so, hehe), so
> we
> > planned to start another project based on BootFlat's styles. Because of
> > this
> > thread we will probably have a preview at the weekend specially for you.
> > But
> > please, we would like to know, what is your opinion about BootFlat?
> > Another interesting point is that BootFlat is also open-source, under MIT
> > license, so it would be possible to use it to create a new theme.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
Very nice! I liked FlatSpark, I think I like BootFlat even more...

I would love to work with you to get either of these styles donated and
integrated in FlexJS.

EdB




On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM, akamud <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am one of the authors of FlatSpark and we are very happy with the
> community
> feedback over the theme. We saw this post and we were got VERY excited, of
> course we have TOTAL INTEREST IN CONTRIBUITING AND DONATING THE SKIN to
> FlexJS, if there is interest in doing this, we can talk about this right
> now.
> Besides that, we have an excelent suggestion for the Flex contest. After we
> started FlatSpark, we found out about BootFlat
> (http://bootflat.github.io/documentation.html), which is a little bit
> different and more friendly for enterprise UI's (we think so, hehe), so we
> planned to start another project based on BootFlat's styles. Because of
> this
> thread we will probably have a preview at the weekend specially for you.
> But
> please, we would like to know, what is your opinion about BootFlat?
> Another interesting point is that BootFlat is also open-source, under MIT
> license, so it would be possible to use it to create a new theme.
>
>
>
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RE: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
It's beautiful and very clean.  I love it.

PS: I didn't see scrollbars in the gallery.

Maurice

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I am one of the authors of FlatSpark and we are very happy with the community feedback over the theme. We saw this post and we were got VERY excited, of course we have TOTAL INTEREST IN CONTRIBUITING AND DONATING THE SKIN to FlexJS, if there is interest in doing this, we can talk about this right now.
Besides that, we have an excelent suggestion for the Flex contest. After we started FlatSpark, we found out about BootFlat (http://bootflat.github.io/documentation.html), which is a little bit different and more friendly for enterprise UI's (we think so, hehe), so we planned to start another project based on BootFlat's styles. Because of this thread we will probably have a preview at the weekend specially for you. But please, we would like to know, what is your opinion about BootFlat?
Another interesting point is that BootFlat is also open-source, under MIT license, so it would be possible to use it to create a new theme.



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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by akamud <mu...@gmail.com>.
I am one of the authors of FlatSpark and we are very happy with the community
feedback over the theme. We saw this post and we were got VERY excited, of
course we have TOTAL INTEREST IN CONTRIBUITING AND DONATING THE SKIN to
FlexJS, if there is interest in doing this, we can talk about this right
now.
Besides that, we have an excelent suggestion for the Flex contest. After we
started FlatSpark, we found out about BootFlat
(http://bootflat.github.io/documentation.html), which is a little bit
different and more friendly for enterprise UI's (we think so, hehe), so we
planned to start another project based on BootFlat's styles. Because of this
thread we will probably have a preview at the weekend specially for you. But
please, we would like to know, what is your opinion about BootFlat?
Another interesting point is that BootFlat is also open-source, under MIT
license, so it would be possible to use it to create a new theme.



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Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
The discussion that led up to this "contest" was about the fact that the
current alpha releases of FlexJS are so ugly it might also be a barrier to
adoption.  But yes, we don't want the contest to delay important work.

-Alex

On 5/21/14 5:17 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Eric <eh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As someone who absolutely hated Spark when it came out, that FlatSpark
>> theme is entirely different (MUCH better).  Hopefully the author will
>> donate it.
>>
>> And not to be a party pooper, but I recommend a little consideration
>> before committing resources to a contest.  If it could possibly delay
>>the
>> first "real" release of FlexJS (or slow other important work), that
>>puts a
>> contest in a different light.  I could be thinking about this wrong,
>>but I
>> feel there should be a sense of urgency getting a production-ready
>>version
>> out there so this SDK can start growing at a much faster pace.
>> -Eric
>
>
>I agree.  We first need a theme spec to figure out how to skin in FlexJS
>before trying to get the best skin possible for a first release.  For
>that,
>I don't think we need a contest.
>
>Thanks,
>Om
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/2014 11:39 AM, Chris Martin wrote:
>>
>>> I like the contest idea.  That way FlatSpark can still enter if they
>>>are
>>> interested, and we could also get some others as well.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  That's what I was trying to do, launch a contest.  Spread the word and
>>>> see
>>>> if we get other entries.
>>>>
>>>> -Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 5/21/14 6:48 AM, "Deepak MS" <me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  How about launching a contest like how we did for Apache Flex Logo?
>>>>;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Some designers from here might pitch in:
>>>>> http://www.scalenine.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Lot of Flex themes out there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If we are planning to go with FlatSpark theme, though it comes under
>>>>> Apache, I feel it would be a good gesture if we contact and get a nod
>>>>> from
>>>>> the owner. I'm sure he\she would appreciate it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  In order for the sources to be placed in our repos, it should be
>>>>>> donated
>>>>>> by the owner.  We could use it as an external dependency, but IMO,
>>>>>>it
>>>>>> really should be in our repo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/21/14 6:02 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/blob/master/LICENSE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has been released under the Apache License, which means it's OK
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to use if we chose to, isn't it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
>>>>>>> <we...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> twitter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frédéric THOMAS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  From: aharui@adobe.com
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [FlexJS]  Designers needed for default theme
>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:47:40 +0000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Several
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> design
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button,
>>>>>>>>>checkbox,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least
>>>>>>>>>you'll
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bragging rights.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Eric <eh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As someone who absolutely hated Spark when it came out, that FlatSpark
> theme is entirely different (MUCH better).  Hopefully the author will
> donate it.
>
> And not to be a party pooper, but I recommend a little consideration
> before committing resources to a contest.  If it could possibly delay the
> first "real" release of FlexJS (or slow other important work), that puts a
> contest in a different light.  I could be thinking about this wrong, but I
> feel there should be a sense of urgency getting a production-ready version
> out there so this SDK can start growing at a much faster pace.
> -Eric


I agree.  We first need a theme spec to figure out how to skin in FlexJS
before trying to get the best skin possible for a first release.  For that,
I don't think we need a contest.

Thanks,
Om


>
>
>
> On 5/21/2014 11:39 AM, Chris Martin wrote:
>
>> I like the contest idea.  That way FlatSpark can still enter if they are
>> interested, and we could also get some others as well.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>>  That's what I was trying to do, launch a contest.  Spread the word and
>>> see
>>> if we get other entries.
>>>
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>> On 5/21/14 6:48 AM, "Deepak MS" <me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  How about launching a contest like how we did for Apache Flex Logo? ;)
>>>>
>>>> Some designers from here might pitch in:
>>>> http://www.scalenine.com/
>>>>
>>>> Lot of Flex themes out there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If we are planning to go with FlatSpark theme, though it comes under
>>>> Apache, I feel it would be a good gesture if we contact and get a nod
>>>> from
>>>> the owner. I'm sure he\she would appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  In order for the sources to be placed in our repos, it should be
>>>>> donated
>>>>> by the owner.  We could use it as an external dependency, but IMO, it
>>>>> really should be in our repo.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/21/14 6:02 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/blob/master/LICENSE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has been released under the Apache License, which means it's OK for
>>>>>>
>>>>> us
>>>>>
>>>>>> to use if we chose to, isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EdB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
>>>>>> <we...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> twitter
>>>>>
>>>>>> recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frédéric THOMAS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  From: aharui@adobe.com
>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [FlexJS]  Designers needed for default theme
>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:47:40 +0000
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Several
>>>>>
>>>>>> folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>>> FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> design
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button, checkbox,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least you'll
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bragging rights.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>>
>>>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Eric <eh...@gmail.com>.
As someone who absolutely hated Spark when it came out, that FlatSpark 
theme is entirely different (MUCH better).  Hopefully the author will 
donate it.

And not to be a party pooper, but I recommend a little consideration 
before committing resources to a contest.  If it could possibly delay 
the first "real" release of FlexJS (or slow other important work), that 
puts a contest in a different light.  I could be thinking about this 
wrong, but I feel there should be a sense of urgency getting a 
production-ready version out there so this SDK can start growing at a 
much faster pace.
-Eric


On 5/21/2014 11:39 AM, Chris Martin wrote:
> I like the contest idea.  That way FlatSpark can still enter if they are
> interested, and we could also get some others as well.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> That's what I was trying to do, launch a contest.  Spread the word and see
>> if we get other entries.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 5/21/14 6:48 AM, "Deepak MS" <me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How about launching a contest like how we did for Apache Flex Logo? ;)
>>>
>>> Some designers from here might pitch in:
>>> http://www.scalenine.com/
>>>
>>> Lot of Flex themes out there.
>>>
>>>
>>> If we are planning to go with FlatSpark theme, though it comes under
>>> Apache, I feel it would be a good gesture if we contact and get a nod from
>>> the owner. I'm sure he\she would appreciate it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In order for the sources to be placed in our repos, it should be donated
>>>> by the owner.  We could use it as an external dependency, but IMO, it
>>>> really should be in our repo.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/21/14 6:02 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/blob/master/LICENSE
>>>>>
>>>>> It has been released under the Apache License, which means it's OK for
>>>> us
>>>>> to use if we chose to, isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>> EdB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
>>>>> <we...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and
>>>> twitter
>>>>>> recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frédéric THOMAS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: aharui@adobe.com
>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [FlexJS]  Designers needed for default theme
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:47:40 +0000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.
>>>> Several
>>>>>>> folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme
>>>> for
>>>>>>> FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has
>>>>>> design
>>>>>>> skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button, checkbox,
>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>> button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator
>>>> file
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have
>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>> and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least you'll
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> bragging rights.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
>>>>>
>>>>> T. 06-51952295
>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Chris Martin <wi...@gmail.com>.
I like the contest idea.  That way FlatSpark can still enter if they are
interested, and we could also get some others as well.

Chris


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> That's what I was trying to do, launch a contest.  Spread the word and see
> if we get other entries.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 5/21/14 6:48 AM, "Deepak MS" <me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >How about launching a contest like how we did for Apache Flex Logo? ;)
> >
> >Some designers from here might pitch in:
> >http://www.scalenine.com/
> >
> >Lot of Flex themes out there.
> >
> >
> >If we are planning to go with FlatSpark theme, though it comes under
> >Apache, I feel it would be a good gesture if we contact and get a nod from
> >the owner. I'm sure he\she would appreciate it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In order for the sources to be placed in our repos, it should be donated
> >> by the owner.  We could use it as an external dependency, but IMO, it
> >> really should be in our repo.
> >>
> >> On 5/21/14 6:02 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> >https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/blob/master/LICENSE
> >> >
> >> >It has been released under the Apache License, which means it's OK for
> >>us
> >> >to use if we chose to, isn't it?
> >> >
> >> >EdB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
> >> ><we...@hotmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and
> >>twitter
> >> >> recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
> >> >>
> >> >> Frédéric THOMAS
> >> >>
> >> >> > From: aharui@adobe.com
> >> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> >> > Subject: [FlexJS]  Designers needed for default theme
> >> >> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:47:40 +0000
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.
> >>Several
> >> >> > folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme
> >>for
> >> >> > FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has
> >> >>design
> >> >> > skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button, checkbox,
> >> >>radio
> >> >> > button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator
> >>file
> >> >>for
> >> >> > review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have
> >> >>discussion
> >> >> > and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least you'll
> >> >>have
> >> >> > bragging rights.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> >> > -Alex
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Ix Multimedia Software
> >> >
> >> >Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> >3521 VB Utrecht
> >> >
> >> >T. 06-51952295
> >> >I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >>
> >>
>
>

Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
That's what I was trying to do, launch a contest.  Spread the word and see
if we get other entries.

-Alex

On 5/21/14 6:48 AM, "Deepak MS" <me...@gmail.com> wrote:

>How about launching a contest like how we did for Apache Flex Logo? ;)
>
>Some designers from here might pitch in:
>http://www.scalenine.com/
>
>Lot of Flex themes out there.
>
>
>If we are planning to go with FlatSpark theme, though it comes under
>Apache, I feel it would be a good gesture if we contact and get a nod from
>the owner. I'm sure he\she would appreciate it.
>
>
>
>
>On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> In order for the sources to be placed in our repos, it should be donated
>> by the owner.  We could use it as an external dependency, but IMO, it
>> really should be in our repo.
>>
>> On 5/21/14 6:02 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>>
>> >https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/blob/master/LICENSE
>> >
>> >It has been released under the Apache License, which means it's OK for
>>us
>> >to use if we chose to, isn't it?
>> >
>> >EdB
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
>> ><we...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and
>>twitter
>> >> recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
>> >>
>> >> Frédéric THOMAS
>> >>
>> >> > From: aharui@adobe.com
>> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> >> > Subject: [FlexJS]  Designers needed for default theme
>> >> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:47:40 +0000
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.
>>Several
>> >> > folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme
>>for
>> >> > FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has
>> >>design
>> >> > skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button, checkbox,
>> >>radio
>> >> > button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator
>>file
>> >>for
>> >> > review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have
>> >>discussion
>> >> > and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least you'll
>> >>have
>> >> > bragging rights.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance,
>> >> > -Alex
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Ix Multimedia Software
>> >
>> >Jan Luykenstraat 27
>> >3521 VB Utrecht
>> >
>> >T. 06-51952295
>> >I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>>
>>


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Deepak MS <me...@gmail.com>.
How about launching a contest like how we did for Apache Flex Logo? ;)

Some designers from here might pitch in:
http://www.scalenine.com/

Lot of Flex themes out there.


If we are planning to go with FlatSpark theme, though it comes under
Apache, I feel it would be a good gesture if we contact and get a nod from
the owner. I'm sure he\she would appreciate it.




On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> In order for the sources to be placed in our repos, it should be donated
> by the owner.  We could use it as an external dependency, but IMO, it
> really should be in our repo.
>
> On 5/21/14 6:02 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>
> >https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/blob/master/LICENSE
> >
> >It has been released under the Apache License, which means it's OK for us
> >to use if we chose to, isn't it?
> >
> >EdB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
> ><we...@hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and twitter
> >> recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
> >>
> >> Frédéric THOMAS
> >>
> >> > From: aharui@adobe.com
> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > Subject: [FlexJS]  Designers needed for default theme
> >> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:47:40 +0000
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.  Several
> >> > folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme for
> >> > FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has
> >>design
> >> > skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button, checkbox,
> >>radio
> >> > button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator file
> >>for
> >> > review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have
> >>discussion
> >> > and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least you'll
> >>have
> >> > bragging rights.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> > -Alex
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Ix Multimedia Software
> >
> >Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >3521 VB Utrecht
> >
> >T. 06-51952295
> >I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
>

Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
In order for the sources to be placed in our repos, it should be donated
by the owner.  We could use it as an external dependency, but IMO, it
really should be in our repo.

On 5/21/14 6:02 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:

>https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/blob/master/LICENSE
>
>It has been released under the Apache License, which means it's OK for us
>to use if we chose to, isn't it?
>
>EdB
>
>
>
>
>On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Frédéric THOMAS
><we...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and twitter
>> recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
>>
>> Frédéric THOMAS
>>
>> > From: aharui@adobe.com
>> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > Subject: [FlexJS]  Designers needed for default theme
>> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:47:40 +0000
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.  Several
>> > folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme for
>> > FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has
>>design
>> > skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button, checkbox,
>>radio
>> > button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator file
>>for
>> > review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have
>>discussion
>> > and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least you'll
>>have
>> > bragging rights.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > -Alex
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Ix Multimedia Software
>
>Jan Luykenstraat 27
>3521 VB Utrecht
>
>T. 06-51952295
>I. www.ixsoftware.nl


Re: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/blob/master/LICENSE

It has been released under the Apache License, which means it's OK for us
to use if we chose to, isn't it?

EdB




On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>wrote:

> There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and twitter
> recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
>
> Frédéric THOMAS
>
> > From: aharui@adobe.com
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: [FlexJS]  Designers needed for default theme
> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:47:40 +0000
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.  Several
> > folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme for
> > FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has design
> > skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button, checkbox, radio
> > button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator file for
> > review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have discussion
> > and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least you'll have
> > bragging rights.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > -Alex
> >
>
>



-- 
Ix Multimedia Software

Jan Luykenstraat 27
3521 VB Utrecht

T. 06-51952295
I. www.ixsoftware.nl

RE: [FlexJS] Designers needed for default theme

Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
There is already this one, someone talked about on the list and twitter recently https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark

Frédéric THOMAS

> From: aharui@adobe.com
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: [FlexJS]  Designers needed for default theme
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:47:40 +0000
> 
> Hi,
> 
> So far, we've been using developer "art" for FlexJS examples.  Several
> folks at 360|Flex agreed that it would be good to have a new theme for
> FlexJS.  It should not be Spark or MX revisited.  If anybody has design
> skills and wants to offer up a default look for a button, checkbox, radio
> button, text input, date field, etc, please post an Illustrator file for
> review.  Like we did for the new Apache Flex logo, we'll have discussion
> and a vote.  It won't directly make you richer, but at least you'll have
> bragging rights.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> -Alex
>