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Posted to dev@aurora.apache.org by Maxim Khutornenko <ma...@apache.org> on 2016/08/02 20:45:06 UTC
[PROPOSAL] Move Aurora discussions to Slack?
Mesos community has recently moved to Slack as their canonical chat channel
[1]. Thanks to Stephan, we already have some presence there via #aurora
channel in Apache Mesos team.
Should we move our IRC discussions to Slack too?
[1] - http://markmail.org/message/azd37j64wsozmuhe
Re: [PROPOSAL] Move Aurora discussions to Slack?
Posted by Renan DelValle <rd...@binghamton.edu>.
I'm with Joshua on this. In fact, I can't even register for the Mesos slack
channel right now because I don't have an approved domain. (Something the
slack app didn't even tell me.)
If we get everything sorted out and make it truly open and intuitive for
everyone, I'm +1 on this, otherwise I'm -1.
-Renan
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Joshua Cohen <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm +0 on this. I agree that Slack is in many ways superior to IRC, but it
> also feels like the barrier to entry for Slack is much higher than it is
> for IRC which is potentially problematic for an open source community.
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > There is an irc bridge which relays all messages back as well as an
> archive
> > bot. Not a huge fan of slack due to it being yet another chat client I
> have
> > in the background, but if it helps the community stay connected and grow
> > and makes things easier then +1 for whatever it is.
> >
> > Might make sense for us to use the mesos.slack.com #aurora channel that
> > way
> > the two communities stay close and its easier for users to find and ask
> > questions rather than having multiple slacks they have to join and keep
> > track of
> >
> > -Jake
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Steve Niemitz <sn...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > +1, I pretty much never remember to open my IRC client anymore. I've
> > been
> > > using the Mesos Slack for a few weeks now and its way better than
> IRC. I
> > > believe they have chat logging still via a bot of some type too?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Maxim Khutornenko <ma...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mesos community has recently moved to Slack as their canonical chat
> > > channel
> > > > [1]. Thanks to Stephan, we already have some presence there via
> #aurora
> > > > channel in Apache Mesos team.
> > > >
> > > > Should we move our IRC discussions to Slack too?
> > > >
> > > > [1] - http://markmail.org/message/azd37j64wsozmuhe
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Move Aurora discussions to Slack?
Posted by Maxim Khutornenko <ma...@apache.org>.
Thanks Jake and Vinod! Given the lack of a strong objection, trying it out
in the irc-shadow mode sounds reasonable to me.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org> wrote:
> A number of people where starting to jump on mesos.slack.com #aurora and I
> did not want to start having segmented communication occurring so I asked
> Vinod to bridge our irc and the slack rooms with the same bot they are
> using currently for #mesos. Thanks Vinod, appreciate the help.
>
> This will let us test out slack and see what the community thinks without
> giving up irc, and still maintain all existing logging. If we think this is
> a good solution we can look at using our own aurora.slack.com and move the
> bridge. thoughts?
>
> -Jake
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Zameer Manji <zm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I'm also +0 for the same reasons that John listed.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:44 PM, John Sirois <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm also +0.
> >>
> >> I am not a Slack fan, but that said, the barrier to entry on the face is
> >> the same if we publicize self-signup like mesos has on their community
> >> page
> >> [1]: https://mesos-slackin.herokuapp.com/
> >> On the negative, we hurt folks like Jake who are connected to many
> >> projects
> >> via IRC and on the positive (maybe) we cater to the burgeoning set of
> >> corporate contributors who are connected to many projects via Slack.
> >>
> >> Being paired with mesos is what tilits me +0 instead of -0.
> >>
> >> [1] http://mesos.apache.org/community/
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Joshua Cohen <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm +0 on this. I agree that Slack is in many ways superior to IRC,
> but
> >> it
> >> > also feels like the barrier to entry for Slack is much higher than it
> is
> >> > for IRC which is potentially problematic for an open source community.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > There is an irc bridge which relays all messages back as well as an
> >> > archive
> >> > > bot. Not a huge fan of slack due to it being yet another chat
> client I
> >> > have
> >> > > in the background, but if it helps the community stay connected and
> >> grow
> >> > > and makes things easier then +1 for whatever it is.
> >> > >
> >> > > Might make sense for us to use the mesos.slack.com #aurora channel
> >> that
> >> > > way
> >> > > the two communities stay close and its easier for users to find and
> >> ask
> >> > > questions rather than having multiple slacks they have to join and
> >> keep
> >> > > track of
> >> > >
> >> > > -Jake
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Steve Niemitz <sn...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > +1, I pretty much never remember to open my IRC client anymore.
> >> I've
> >> > > been
> >> > > > using the Mesos Slack for a few weeks now and its way better than
> >> > IRC. I
> >> > > > believe they have chat logging still via a bot of some type too?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Maxim Khutornenko <
> maxim@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Mesos community has recently moved to Slack as their canonical
> >> chat
> >> > > > channel
> >> > > > > [1]. Thanks to Stephan, we already have some presence there via
> >> > #aurora
> >> > > > > channel in Apache Mesos team.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Should we move our IRC discussions to Slack too?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > [1] - http://markmail.org/message/azd37j64wsozmuhe
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Move Aurora discussions to Slack?
Posted by Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>.
A number of people where starting to jump on mesos.slack.com #aurora and I
did not want to start having segmented communication occurring so I asked
Vinod to bridge our irc and the slack rooms with the same bot they are
using currently for #mesos. Thanks Vinod, appreciate the help.
This will let us test out slack and see what the community thinks without
giving up irc, and still maintain all existing logging. If we think this is
a good solution we can look at using our own aurora.slack.com and move the
bridge. thoughts?
-Jake
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Zameer Manji <zm...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm also +0 for the same reasons that John listed.
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:44 PM, John Sirois <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm also +0.
>>
>> I am not a Slack fan, but that said, the barrier to entry on the face is
>> the same if we publicize self-signup like mesos has on their community
>> page
>> [1]: https://mesos-slackin.herokuapp.com/
>> On the negative, we hurt folks like Jake who are connected to many
>> projects
>> via IRC and on the positive (maybe) we cater to the burgeoning set of
>> corporate contributors who are connected to many projects via Slack.
>>
>> Being paired with mesos is what tilits me +0 instead of -0.
>>
>> [1] http://mesos.apache.org/community/
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Joshua Cohen <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm +0 on this. I agree that Slack is in many ways superior to IRC, but
>> it
>> > also feels like the barrier to entry for Slack is much higher than it is
>> > for IRC which is potentially problematic for an open source community.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > There is an irc bridge which relays all messages back as well as an
>> > archive
>> > > bot. Not a huge fan of slack due to it being yet another chat client I
>> > have
>> > > in the background, but if it helps the community stay connected and
>> grow
>> > > and makes things easier then +1 for whatever it is.
>> > >
>> > > Might make sense for us to use the mesos.slack.com #aurora channel
>> that
>> > > way
>> > > the two communities stay close and its easier for users to find and
>> ask
>> > > questions rather than having multiple slacks they have to join and
>> keep
>> > > track of
>> > >
>> > > -Jake
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Steve Niemitz <sn...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > +1, I pretty much never remember to open my IRC client anymore.
>> I've
>> > > been
>> > > > using the Mesos Slack for a few weeks now and its way better than
>> > IRC. I
>> > > > believe they have chat logging still via a bot of some type too?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Maxim Khutornenko <maxim@apache.org
>> >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Mesos community has recently moved to Slack as their canonical
>> chat
>> > > > channel
>> > > > > [1]. Thanks to Stephan, we already have some presence there via
>> > #aurora
>> > > > > channel in Apache Mesos team.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Should we move our IRC discussions to Slack too?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [1] - http://markmail.org/message/azd37j64wsozmuhe
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Move Aurora discussions to Slack?
Posted by Zameer Manji <zm...@apache.org>.
I'm also +0 for the same reasons that John listed.
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:44 PM, John Sirois <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm also +0.
>
> I am not a Slack fan, but that said, the barrier to entry on the face is
> the same if we publicize self-signup like mesos has on their community page
> [1]: https://mesos-slackin.herokuapp.com/
> On the negative, we hurt folks like Jake who are connected to many projects
> via IRC and on the positive (maybe) we cater to the burgeoning set of
> corporate contributors who are connected to many projects via Slack.
>
> Being paired with mesos is what tilits me +0 instead of -0.
>
> [1] http://mesos.apache.org/community/
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Joshua Cohen <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I'm +0 on this. I agree that Slack is in many ways superior to IRC, but
> it
> > also feels like the barrier to entry for Slack is much higher than it is
> > for IRC which is potentially problematic for an open source community.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > There is an irc bridge which relays all messages back as well as an
> > archive
> > > bot. Not a huge fan of slack due to it being yet another chat client I
> > have
> > > in the background, but if it helps the community stay connected and
> grow
> > > and makes things easier then +1 for whatever it is.
> > >
> > > Might make sense for us to use the mesos.slack.com #aurora channel
> that
> > > way
> > > the two communities stay close and its easier for users to find and ask
> > > questions rather than having multiple slacks they have to join and keep
> > > track of
> > >
> > > -Jake
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Steve Niemitz <sn...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1, I pretty much never remember to open my IRC client anymore. I've
> > > been
> > > > using the Mesos Slack for a few weeks now and its way better than
> > IRC. I
> > > > believe they have chat logging still via a bot of some type too?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Maxim Khutornenko <ma...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Mesos community has recently moved to Slack as their canonical chat
> > > > channel
> > > > > [1]. Thanks to Stephan, we already have some presence there via
> > #aurora
> > > > > channel in Apache Mesos team.
> > > > >
> > > > > Should we move our IRC discussions to Slack too?
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] - http://markmail.org/message/azd37j64wsozmuhe
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Move Aurora discussions to Slack?
Posted by John Sirois <jo...@gmail.com>.
I'm also +0.
I am not a Slack fan, but that said, the barrier to entry on the face is
the same if we publicize self-signup like mesos has on their community page
[1]: https://mesos-slackin.herokuapp.com/
On the negative, we hurt folks like Jake who are connected to many projects
via IRC and on the positive (maybe) we cater to the burgeoning set of
corporate contributors who are connected to many projects via Slack.
Being paired with mesos is what tilits me +0 instead of -0.
[1] http://mesos.apache.org/community/
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Joshua Cohen <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm +0 on this. I agree that Slack is in many ways superior to IRC, but it
> also feels like the barrier to entry for Slack is much higher than it is
> for IRC which is potentially problematic for an open source community.
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > There is an irc bridge which relays all messages back as well as an
> archive
> > bot. Not a huge fan of slack due to it being yet another chat client I
> have
> > in the background, but if it helps the community stay connected and grow
> > and makes things easier then +1 for whatever it is.
> >
> > Might make sense for us to use the mesos.slack.com #aurora channel that
> > way
> > the two communities stay close and its easier for users to find and ask
> > questions rather than having multiple slacks they have to join and keep
> > track of
> >
> > -Jake
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Steve Niemitz <sn...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > +1, I pretty much never remember to open my IRC client anymore. I've
> > been
> > > using the Mesos Slack for a few weeks now and its way better than
> IRC. I
> > > believe they have chat logging still via a bot of some type too?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Maxim Khutornenko <ma...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mesos community has recently moved to Slack as their canonical chat
> > > channel
> > > > [1]. Thanks to Stephan, we already have some presence there via
> #aurora
> > > > channel in Apache Mesos team.
> > > >
> > > > Should we move our IRC discussions to Slack too?
> > > >
> > > > [1] - http://markmail.org/message/azd37j64wsozmuhe
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Move Aurora discussions to Slack?
Posted by Joshua Cohen <jc...@apache.org>.
I'm +0 on this. I agree that Slack is in many ways superior to IRC, but it
also feels like the barrier to entry for Slack is much higher than it is
for IRC which is potentially problematic for an open source community.
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org> wrote:
> There is an irc bridge which relays all messages back as well as an archive
> bot. Not a huge fan of slack due to it being yet another chat client I have
> in the background, but if it helps the community stay connected and grow
> and makes things easier then +1 for whatever it is.
>
> Might make sense for us to use the mesos.slack.com #aurora channel that
> way
> the two communities stay close and its easier for users to find and ask
> questions rather than having multiple slacks they have to join and keep
> track of
>
> -Jake
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Steve Niemitz <sn...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1, I pretty much never remember to open my IRC client anymore. I've
> been
> > using the Mesos Slack for a few weeks now and its way better than IRC. I
> > believe they have chat logging still via a bot of some type too?
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Maxim Khutornenko <ma...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Mesos community has recently moved to Slack as their canonical chat
> > channel
> > > [1]. Thanks to Stephan, we already have some presence there via #aurora
> > > channel in Apache Mesos team.
> > >
> > > Should we move our IRC discussions to Slack too?
> > >
> > > [1] - http://markmail.org/message/azd37j64wsozmuhe
> > >
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Move Aurora discussions to Slack?
Posted by Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>.
There is an irc bridge which relays all messages back as well as an archive
bot. Not a huge fan of slack due to it being yet another chat client I have
in the background, but if it helps the community stay connected and grow
and makes things easier then +1 for whatever it is.
Might make sense for us to use the mesos.slack.com #aurora channel that way
the two communities stay close and its easier for users to find and ask
questions rather than having multiple slacks they have to join and keep
track of
-Jake
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Steve Niemitz <sn...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1, I pretty much never remember to open my IRC client anymore. I've been
> using the Mesos Slack for a few weeks now and its way better than IRC. I
> believe they have chat logging still via a bot of some type too?
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Maxim Khutornenko <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Mesos community has recently moved to Slack as their canonical chat
> channel
> > [1]. Thanks to Stephan, we already have some presence there via #aurora
> > channel in Apache Mesos team.
> >
> > Should we move our IRC discussions to Slack too?
> >
> > [1] - http://markmail.org/message/azd37j64wsozmuhe
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Move Aurora discussions to Slack?
Posted by Steve Niemitz <sn...@apache.org>.
+1, I pretty much never remember to open my IRC client anymore. I've been
using the Mesos Slack for a few weeks now and its way better than IRC. I
believe they have chat logging still via a bot of some type too?
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Maxim Khutornenko <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Mesos community has recently moved to Slack as their canonical chat channel
> [1]. Thanks to Stephan, we already have some presence there via #aurora
> channel in Apache Mesos team.
>
> Should we move our IRC discussions to Slack too?
>
> [1] - http://markmail.org/message/azd37j64wsozmuhe
>