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[RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921
Hi,
I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
after the confluence update).
An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
found under [2].
Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
versions will be 64 bit.
Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
additional information how to test and use them.
Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
in the next snapshot.
Juergen
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
1521921
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> do we have numbers how many 32bit downloads we have, I would assume that
> Linux is running under 64bit mainly.
No, it isn't. 32-bit was still a clear winner for the whole 2013:
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/mediaresource/ee577c6b-74ca-472a-b698-b8488748e0dd
(as you see, 64-bit between 20 and 50% of the Linux downloads; it is
growing and reached 50% in December, but it will take a while before
32-bit becomes negligible).
> I am in favor to drop 32 bit Linux to reduce the number of binary
> builds. Any opinions?
The above already shows that we can't drop 64-bit now. Additionally, a
significant percentage of Linux installation probably starts from a
"live media" installation, and for maximum compatibility these are often
32-bit. So it may well happen that 64-bit capable hardware still runs a
32-bit distribution.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
1521921
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 1/14/14 8:29 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:18:34 +0100
> Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/13/14 6:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
>>>> 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
>>>> after the confluence update).
>>>>
>>>> An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
>>>> found under [2].
>>>>
>>>> Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
>>>> versions will be 64 bit.
>>>>
>>>> Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
>>>> problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
>>>> builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
>>>> baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK -- it looks like we're still only generating .deb packages for 32-bit
>>> Linux from SNAPSHOT, so 32 bit Linux folks must use nightly..
>>
>> do we have numbers how many 32bit downloads we have, I would assume that
>> Linux is running under 64bit mainly.
>>
>> I am in favor to drop 32 bit Linux to reduce the number of binary
>> builds. Any opinions? But probably better in a new thread ;-)
>>
>> Juergen
>
> Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be common among developers, but certainly is among older users and installers/linux advocates who migrate older users to cast off machines from children. My own main editing comouter is a 32 bit running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I am asked to salvage a cast off computer I normally reformat the HD and put 32 bit linux on it without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would regret the loss of OO 32 bit.
>
ok, I should take off my developer glasses ;-)
Juergen
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> And...???
>>>
>>> Looking at:
>>>
>>> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
>>>
>>> the revision numbers don't seem correct. Right now "/trunk" (used for
>>> nightly) is at: 1557669
>>> and SNAPSHOT is at: 1556251
>>>
>>> Maybe these need to be manually changes in the table? I don't know who
>>> maintains the page above.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
>>>> additional information how to test and use them.
>>>>
>>>> Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
>>>> in the next snapshot.
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:18:34 +0100
> Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 1/13/14 6:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
> > >> 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
> > >> after the confluence update).
> > >>
> > >> An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
> > >> found under [2].
> > >>
> > >> Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
> > >> versions will be 64 bit.
> > >>
> > >> Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
> > >> problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the
> Apache
> > >> builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
> > >> baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
> > >>
> > >
> > > OK -- it looks like we're still only generating .deb packages for
> 32-bit
> > > Linux from SNAPSHOT, so 32 bit Linux folks must use nightly..
> >
> > do we have numbers how many 32bit downloads we have, I would assume that
> > Linux is running under 64bit mainly.
> >
> > I am in favor to drop 32 bit Linux to reduce the number of binary
> > builds. Any opinions? But probably better in a new thread ;-)
> >
> > Juergen
>
> Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be common
> among developers, but certainly is among older users and installers/linux
> advocates who migrate older users to cast off machines from children. My
> own main editing comouter is a 32 bit running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I
> am asked to salvage a cast off computer I normally reformat the HD and put
> 32 bit linux on it without further thought, as this will run on nearly
> anything. I would regret the loss of OO 32 bit.
>
I also am on 32-bit Linux and I think others here may be as well. Yes, I do
have an older computer but I'm happy with it for now. So, WAH!, on the idea
of dropping the 32-bit binaries.
On my original question/complaint. I could change the buildbot script to
generate rpms (I think the 32 bit linux snapshot is only building for
"deb", en-US currently), but probably this buildbot instance would then
need to be restarted, which, I can't do.
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > And...???
> > >
> > > Looking at:
> > >
> > > http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
> > >
> > > the revision numbers don't seem correct. Right now "/trunk" (used for
> > > nightly) is at: 1557669
> > > and SNAPSHOT is at: 1556251
> > >
> > > Maybe these need to be manually changes in the table? I don't know who
> > > maintains the page above.
> > >
> > >
> > >> I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together
> with
> > >> additional information how to test and use them.
> > >>
> > >> Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
> > >> in the next snapshot.
> > >>
> > >> Juergen
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
1521921
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 1/14/14 10:38 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>
>
> On 2014-01-14, 1:46 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 1/14/14 8:29 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>> Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be
>>> common among developers, but certainly is among older users and
>>> installers/linux advocates who migrate older users to cast off
>>> machines from children. My own main editing comouter is a 32 bit
>>> running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I am asked to salvage a cast off
>>> computer I normally reformat the HD and put 32 bit linux on it
>>> without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would
>>> regret the loss of OO 32 bit. >
>> ok, I should take off my developer glasses;-)
>>
>> Juergen
>
> The same applies to Macs. If you continue to provide 32 bit Linux you
> should continue offering 32 bit for Macs.
I think I have already described why that is not easy possible and
requires much more work. We have good reasons to move to a newer MacOS
platform SDK (explained already) if we don't want to risk to run in
problems on newer or future MacOS versions. APIs are already deprecated
by Apple and we have to take this into account.
I also promised that we can give support if anybody is interested to
invest the time in supporting an older SDK than 10.7 and potentially
also a 32 bit version for MacOS.
Our plan is to focus on modern systems only and especially on Mac the
situation is different than on Linux. Newer Mac systems are all running
on 64 bit. It is not the question of 32 or 64 bit on Mac but more which
platform SDK we need as baseline.
To repeat it again AOO 4.1 will require the 10.7 SDK and if somebody is
interested to work on support for 10.6 stand up now.
And for Linux 32 bit binaries are not built automatically and we spent a
lot of time on it. We need an older baseline that is not supported by
infra on the Apache bots, means we can't easy use the build bots for our
releases. Where are the volunteers who take care of this? Where are the
volunteers who convince infra that we need at least 2 VMs (32 and 64
bit) that matches our baseline.
Currently it is not a problem and it is clear that 32 bit Linux is
widely used. But anybody who is requesting here the support should think
about it. I have enough other things to do and this is a community
project, anybody can help to provide the binaries on his own machine
that matches the baseline.
Juergen
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
1521921
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2014-01-14, 4:05 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 01/14/2014 10:38 PM, schrieb Larry Gusaas:
>>
>>
>> On 2014-01-14, 1:46 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> On 1/14/14 8:29 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>>> Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be
>>>> common among developers, but certainly is among older users and
>>>> installers/linux advocates who migrate older users to cast off
>>>> machines from children. My own main editing comouter is a 32 bit
>>>> running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I am asked to salvage a cast off
>>>> computer I normally reformat the HD and put 32 bit linux on it
>>>> without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would
>>>> regret the loss of OO 32 bit. >
>>> ok, I should take off my developer glasses;-)
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>
>> The same applies to Macs. If you continue to provide 32 bit Linux you
>> should continue offering 32 bit for Macs.
>>
>> How about for Mac PowerPC computers? I hate having to recommend
>> LibreOffice to Mac PowerPC users.
>
> Just a side note, so please don't take it personally:
>
> Our longterm supporter, Maho, has given up himself to support this platform (I don't know at
> the moment why, maybe broken hardware ?). So, we have no hardware for building, testing,
> releasing - and would need to get (buy) this hardware to go on with AOO. ;-)
Maho was a great asset.
As for no hardware, that is the same line Oracle, and Sun before them used.
>
> Apple has switched from PPC to Intel in 2006 and Mac OS X 10.5 in 2007 was the last version
> for PPC. So, these users have no chance anymore to upgrade their OS. I think especially Apple
> users like to have the newest stuff and I wouldn't expect that there are many people doing
> their daily work only on a PPC machine.
Apple hardware is extremely long lived. Many people still use PPC Macs. Check out
http://lowendmac.com
>
> BTW:
> With the work Herbert is doing (new baseline for Mac's will be 10.7) it would be the end anyway.
Abandoning older versions of OS X is a big mistake. Many people can't, or will not, update from
OS X version 10.6.xx for very valid reasons. There are even better reasons to continue 32 bit
versions of AOO than for 32 bit Linux.
>
> My 2 ct.
>
> Marcus
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
1521921
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 01/14/2014 10:38 PM, schrieb Larry Gusaas:
>
>
> On 2014-01-14, 1:46 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 1/14/14 8:29 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>> Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be
>>> common among developers, but certainly is among older users and
>>> installers/linux advocates who migrate older users to cast off
>>> machines from children. My own main editing comouter is a 32 bit
>>> running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I am asked to salvage a cast off
>>> computer I normally reformat the HD and put 32 bit linux on it
>>> without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would
>>> regret the loss of OO 32 bit. >
>> ok, I should take off my developer glasses;-)
>>
>> Juergen
>
> The same applies to Macs. If you continue to provide 32 bit Linux you
> should continue offering 32 bit for Macs.
>
> How about for Mac PowerPC computers? I hate having to recommend
> LibreOffice to Mac PowerPC users.
Just a side note, so please don't take it personally:
Our longterm supporter, Maho, has given up himself to support this
platform (I don't know at the moment why, maybe broken hardware ?). So,
we have no hardware for building, testing, releasing - and would need to
get (buy) this hardware to go on with AOO. ;-)
Apple has switched from PPC to Intel in 2006 and Mac OS X 10.5 in 2007
was the last version for PPC. So, these users have no chance anymore to
upgrade their OS. I think especially Apple users like to have the newest
stuff and I wouldn't expect that there are many people doing their daily
work only on a PPC machine.
BTW:
With the work Herbert is doing (new baseline for Mac's will be 10.7) it
would be the end anyway.
My 2 ct.
Marcus
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
1521921
Posted by "Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)" <ro...@apache.org>.
On 15.01.2014 10:50, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>
>
> On 2014-01-15, 3:38 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 1/15/14 9:59 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>>> On 2014-01-15, 2:35 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>> To repeat it again AOO 4.1 will require the 10.7 SDK and if somebody is
>>>> interested to work on support for 10.6 stand up now.
>>> And I repeat. Not supporting an operating system that was only replaced
>>> 2 1/2 years ago is wrong. Stand up now? Sounds like the old developer
>>> attitude "if you want it, do it yourself".
>> yes and no, that is how it works for sure. If you want something do it,
>> if you can't do it yourself convince others to help. Do nothing
>> definitely won't work.
>>
>> And this is not personal it is a general reminder how it works.
>>
>> Juergen
>
> And that is the bane of open source software.
No. AFAIK Apple, the commercial entity that produced and sold and developed software for PPC has
stopped doing so, EOL policy.
---
The boon of open source software is, that everyone *can* take the source and compile it for PPC.
Alternatively, other software products using AOO source code like LO can support such a platform.
>From your comments it seems to be the case that a LO port for PPC exists, so why not suggest that
and use it, if you have extraordinary needs?
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
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Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2014-01-15, 3:38 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 1/15/14 9:59 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>> On 2014-01-15, 2:35 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> To repeat it again AOO 4.1 will require the 10.7 SDK and if somebody is
>>> interested to work on support for 10.6 stand up now.
>> And I repeat. Not supporting an operating system that was only replaced
>> 2 1/2 years ago is wrong. Stand up now? Sounds like the old developer
>> attitude "if you want it, do it yourself".
> yes and no, that is how it works for sure. If you want something do it,
> if you can't do it yourself convince others to help. Do nothing
> definitely won't work.
>
> And this is not personal it is a general reminder how it works.
>
> Juergen
And that is the bane of open source software.
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
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Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 1/15/14 9:59 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> On 2014-01-15, 2:35 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> To repeat it again AOO 4.1 will require the 10.7 SDK and if somebody is
>> interested to work on support for 10.6 stand up now.
>
> And I repeat. Not supporting an operating system that was only replaced
> 2 1/2 years ago is wrong. Stand up now? Sounds like the old developer
> attitude "if you want it, do it yourself".
yes and no, that is how it works for sure. If you want something do it,
if you can't do it yourself convince others to help. Do nothing
definitely won't work.
And this is not personal it is a general reminder how it works.
Juergen
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Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2014-01-15, 2:35 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> To repeat it again AOO 4.1 will require the 10.7 SDK and if somebody is
> interested to work on support for 10.6 stand up now.
And I repeat. Not supporting an operating system that was only replaced 2 1/2 years ago is
wrong. Stand up now? Sounds like the old developer attitude "if you want it, do it yourself".
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
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Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2014-01-14, 1:46 AM Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 1/14/14 8:29 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be common among developers,
>> but certainly is among older users and installers/linux advocates who migrate older users to
>> cast off machines from children. My own main editing comouter is a 32 bit running Xubuntu
>> and OpenOffice. If I am asked to salvage a cast off computer I normally reformat the HD and
>> put 32 bit linux on it without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would
>> regret the loss of OO 32 bit. >
> ok, I should take off my developer glasses;-)
>
> Juergen
The same applies to Macs. If you continue to provide 32 bit Linux you should continue offering
32 bit for Macs.
How about for Mac PowerPC computers? I hate having to recommend LibreOffice to Mac PowerPC users.
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
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Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:18:34 +0100
Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/13/14 6:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
> >> 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
> >> after the confluence update).
> >>
> >> An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
> >> found under [2].
> >>
> >> Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
> >> versions will be 64 bit.
> >>
> >> Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
> >> problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
> >> builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
> >> baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
> >>
> >
> > OK -- it looks like we're still only generating .deb packages for 32-bit
> > Linux from SNAPSHOT, so 32 bit Linux folks must use nightly..
>
> do we have numbers how many 32bit downloads we have, I would assume that
> Linux is running under 64bit mainly.
>
> I am in favor to drop 32 bit Linux to reduce the number of binary
> builds. Any opinions? But probably better in a new thread ;-)
>
> Juergen
Many older computers will only run 32 bit Linux. This may not be common among developers, but certainly is among older users and installers/linux advocates who migrate older users to cast off machines from children. My own main editing comouter is a 32 bit running Xubuntu and OpenOffice. If I am asked to salvage a cast off computer I normally reformat the HD and put 32 bit linux on it without further thought, as this will run on nearly anything. I would regret the loss of OO 32 bit.
>
>
> >
> > And...???
> >
> > Looking at:
> >
> > http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
> >
> > the revision numbers don't seem correct. Right now "/trunk" (used for
> > nightly) is at: 1557669
> > and SNAPSHOT is at: 1556251
> >
> > Maybe these need to be manually changes in the table? I don't know who
> > maintains the page above.
> >
> >
> >> I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
> >> additional information how to test and use them.
> >>
> >> Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
> >> in the next snapshot.
> >>
> >> Juergen
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
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Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 1/13/14 6:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
>> 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
>> after the confluence update).
>>
>> An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
>> found under [2].
>>
>> Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
>> versions will be 64 bit.
>>
>> Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
>> problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
>> builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
>> baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
>>
>
> OK -- it looks like we're still only generating .deb packages for 32-bit
> Linux from SNAPSHOT, so 32 bit Linux folks must use nightly..
do we have numbers how many 32bit downloads we have, I would assume that
Linux is running under 64bit mainly.
I am in favor to drop 32 bit Linux to reduce the number of binary
builds. Any opinions? But probably better in a new thread ;-)
Juergen
>
> And...???
>
> Looking at:
>
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
>
> the revision numbers don't seem correct. Right now "/trunk" (used for
> nightly) is at: 1557669
> and SNAPSHOT is at: 1556251
>
> Maybe these need to be manually changes in the table? I don't know who
> maintains the page above.
>
>
>> I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
>> additional information how to test and use them.
>>
>> Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
>> in the next snapshot.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision 1521921
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
> 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
> after the confluence update).
>
> An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
> found under [2].
>
> Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
> versions will be 64 bit.
>
> Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
> problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
> builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
> baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
>
OK -- it looks like we're still only generating .deb packages for 32-bit
Linux from SNAPSHOT, so 32 bit Linux folks must use nightly..
And...???
Looking at:
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
the revision numbers don't seem correct. Right now "/trunk" (used for
nightly) is at: 1557669
and SNAPSHOT is at: 1556251
Maybe these need to be manually changes in the table? I don't know who
maintains the page above.
> I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
> additional information how to test and use them.
>
> Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
> in the next snapshot.
>
> Juergen
>
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unoinfo-bug in latest MacOSX snapshot still present (Re: [RELEASE]:
snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
Posted by "Rony G. Flatscher" <Ro...@wu.ac.at>.
On 13.01.2014 14:01, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 1/13/14 2:00 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
>> 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
>> after the confluence update).
>>
>> An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
>> found under [2].
>>
>> Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
>> versions will be 64 bit.
>>
>> Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
>> problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
>> builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
>> baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
>>
>> I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
>> additional information how to test and use them.
>>
>> Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
>> in the next snapshot.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
>
> [2]
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_Snapshot_fixes_1524958_1556251.html
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Just downloaded the latest snapshot build for MacOSX (en-us, rev. 1556251) and found that the
unoinfo-bug reported in <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123475> is still present,
preventing Java programs using "uninfo java" for setting the classpath to be able to interact with AOO.
As the issue might not be too visible, yet the bug inhibits effectively Java from using AOO when
using "unoinfo" it seems that it should be fixed, before a final release for 4.1.0.
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Re: unoinfo-bug in latest MacOSX snapshot still present (Re: [RELEASE]:
snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
Posted by "Rony G. Flatscher" <Ro...@wu.ac.at>.
On 23.01.2014 10:29, Herbert Duerr wrote:
> On 22.01.2014 20:17, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:
>> Just downloaded the latest snapshot build for MacOSX (en-us, rev. 1556251) and found that the
>> unoinfo-bug reported in <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123475> is still present,
>> preventing Java programs using "uninfo java" for setting the classpath to be able to interact
>> with AOO.
>>
>> As the issue might not be too visible, yet the bug inhibits effectively Java from using AOO when
>> using "unoinfo" it seems that it should be fixed, before a final release for 4.1.0.
>
> Fixed with [1] that will get into the next snapshot build, that will be out really soon. Please
> test it then.
Super, thank you very much Herbert!
---rony
P.S.: Yes, will test it with the next snapshot, whenever it is being built.
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Re: unoinfo-bug in latest MacOSX snapshot still present (Re: [RELEASE]:
snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
Posted by Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>.
On 22.01.2014 20:17, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:
> Just downloaded the latest snapshot build for MacOSX (en-us, rev. 1556251) and found that the
> unoinfo-bug reported in <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123475> is still present,
> preventing Java programs using "uninfo java" for setting the classpath to be able to interact with AOO.
>
> As the issue might not be too visible, yet the bug inhibits effectively Java from using AOO when
> using "unoinfo" it seems that it should be fixed, before a final release for 4.1.0.
Fixed with [1] that will get into the next snapshot build, that will be
out really soon. Please test it then.
[1] http://svn.apache.org/r1560615
Herbert
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unoinfo-bug in latest MacOSX snapshot still present (Re: [RELEASE]:
snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
Posted by "Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)" <ro...@apache.org>.
On 13.01.2014 14:01, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 1/13/14 2:00 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
>> 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
>> after the confluence update).
>>
>> An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
>> found under [2].
>>
>> Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
>> versions will be 64 bit.
>>
>> Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
>> problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
>> builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
>> baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
>>
>> I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
>> additional information how to test and use them.
>>
>> Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
>> in the next snapshot.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
>
> [2]
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_Snapshot_fixes_1524958_1556251.html
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Just downloaded the latest snapshot build for MacOSX (en-us, rev. 1556251) and found that the
unoinfo-bug reported in <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123475> is still present,
preventing Java programs using "uninfo java" for setting the classpath to be able to interact with AOO.
As the issue might not be too visible, yet the bug inhibits effectively Java from using AOO when
using "unoinfo" it seems that it should be fixed, before a final release for 4.1.0.
---rony
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Re: [RELEASE]: snapshot build for Mac and Windows based on revision
1521921
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 1/13/14 2:00 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have upload a new snapshot for Mac and Windows based on revision
> 1521921. I also update the related wiki page under [1] (quite painful
> after the confluence update).
>
> An overview of changes/fixes in this snapshot since AOO 4.0.1 can be
> found under [2].
>
> Mac is still 32 bit but my plan is that the next snapshot and future
> versions will be 64 bit.
>
> Linux is not yet available via the snapshot page because of some
> problems with the build machines. I recommend the builds from the Apache
> builds bots. The difference is only that the Apache bots have a newer
> baseline but will work on newer Linux systems.
>
> I plan to provide patch sets for Windows in the next days together with
> additional information how to test and use them.
>
> Further languages and updates of existing languages will be integrated
> in the next snapshot.
>
> Juergen
>
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
[2]
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_Snapshot_fixes_1524958_1556251.html
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