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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by kf...@collab.net on 2005/12/31 02:49:14 UTC

Re: svn commit: r17942 - trunk/www

djames@tigris.org writes:
> Log:
> * www/svn_1.3_releasenotes.html: 
>   Remove big red warning stating that Subversion 1.3 has not yet been
>   released. We're getting very close to the official 1.3.0 release, so
>   this warning will soon be obsolete.

Uh?

1.3.0 is not released yet.  Experience teaches us that we can't say
for sure when a release is "close", much as we'd like to believe
otherwise :-).  The potential harm of removing the warning before the
release is much greater than the potential harm of having the warning
for a while after the release is out.

In the former case, someone might see the lack of warning and assume
that 1.3.0 is out, and that therefore the tarball named "1.3.0" is
okay to use (even though it turns out it's not, and we had to
reroll).  This would be Very Bad.  We could have a premature Slashdot
announcement or something, as a result.

In the latter case, all that happens is that someone doesn't upgrade
quite as soon as they otherwise would have, and maybe we have a few
questions from confused users about whether or not 1.3.0 is out.  No
big deal.

Based on the above reasoning, I've reverted r17942.  Let's please do
nothing to imply that a release is out until it's really and truly
out.

Thanks,
-Karl

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> Modified: trunk/www/svn_1.3_releasenotes.html
> Url: http://svn.collab.net/viewcvs/svn/trunk/www/svn_1.3_releasenotes.html?rev=17942&p1=trunk/www/svn_1.3_releasenotes.html&p2=trunk/www/svn_1.3_releasenotes.html&r1=17941&r2=17942
> ==============================================================================
> --- trunk/www/svn_1.3_releasenotes.html	(original)
> +++ trunk/www/svn_1.3_releasenotes.html	Thu Dec 29 17:06:22 2005
> @@ -17,27 +17,6 @@
>  
>  <h1 style="text-align: center">Subversion 1.3 Release Notes</h1>
>  
> -<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" width="98%"
> -  style="background-color: white;">
> -<tr>
> -<td style="background-color: yellow">
> -<div style="color: red">
> -
> -<p style="font-style: italic;"><b>WARNING:</b></p> 
> -
> -<p style="font-style: italic;">Subversion 1.3.0 has NOT yet been
> -released!  This document is a draft&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;we're using it
> -as a checklist for the tasks that remain.  When this warning
> -disappears, that will mean 1.3.0 is released.</p>
> -
> -<p>$LastChangedDate$</p>
> -
> -</div>
> -</td>
> -</tr>
> -
> -</table>
> -
>  <div class="h2" id="news" title="news">
>  <h2>What's New in Subversion 1.3</h2>
>  
> 
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Re: svn commit: r17942 - trunk/www

Posted by Jani Averbach <ja...@jaa.iki.fi>.
On 2005-12-31 00:18-0500, David James wrote:
>
> There's a race condition here: svn_1.3_releasenotes.html says that the
> warning won't be removed until Subversion 1.3 is officially released.
> But, the warning needs to be removed before we can produce a "final"
> tarball of Subversion 1.3 for testing. So, what to do?

The release is living in the branch and the web site is generated from
trunk, so warning can be removed from the branch, but not from the
trunk.

BR, Jani

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Re: svn commit: r17942 - trunk/www

Posted by David James <ja...@gmail.com>.
On 12/30/05, kfogel@collab.net <kf...@collab.net> wrote:
> djames@tigris.org writes:
> > Log:
> > * www/svn_1.3_releasenotes.html:
> >   Remove big red warning stating that Subversion 1.3 has not yet been
> >   released. We're getting very close to the official 1.3.0 release, so
> >   this warning will soon be obsolete.
> 1.3.0 is not released yet. Experience teaches us that we can't say
> for sure when a release is "close", much as we'd like to believe
> otherwise :-)
svn_1.3_releasenotes.html is shipped with our official 1.3.0 tarball.
I removed the warning so that the official 1.3.0 tarball wouldn't have
a big red warning in www/svn_1.3_releasenotes.html stating that
Subversion 1.3 has not yet been released.

There's a race condition here: svn_1.3_releasenotes.html says that the
warning won't be removed until Subversion 1.3 is officially released.
But, the warning needs to be removed before we can produce a "final"
tarball of Subversion 1.3 for testing. So, what to do?

Cheers,

David

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