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Posted to dev@ace.apache.org by Marvin <no...@apache.org> on 2012/01/01 14:59:44 UTC

Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])


Dear podling,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
board report.

The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The report 
for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC 
requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to allow 
sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Dec 5th).

Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and 
subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you 
should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.

Thanks,

The Apache Incubator PMC

Submitting your Report
----------------------

Your report should contain the following:

 * Your project name
 * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
   or necessarily of its field
 * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards 
   graduation.
 * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
 * How has the community developed since the last report
 * How has the project developed since the last report.
 
This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2012

Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
      created from a template.

Mentors
-------
Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the 
Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the 
project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.

Incubator PMC


Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
"not really a new list" ahh.. that makes sense! Thanks for clarification,
Brett !

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:

>
> On 06/01/2012, at 3:06 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>
> > On Jan 5, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
> >
> >> Btw, i see i was already subscribed to the new dev@.. list
> automatically.
> >> How's the transition of messages working  ? Will the incubator list
> >> disappear ? Messages sent to one list will sent to both ?  Just curious.
> >
> > They "moved" the existing archives, and I think (at least for now) the
> old alias is still being forwarded to the new lists. I am not sure for how
> long that will be the case.
>
> I'm not aware of any policy to remove old aliases - it should keep
> working. It's not really a new list, the other one was just moved and the
> old address aliased to it.
>
> - Brett
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> http://twitter.com/brettporter
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 06/01/2012, at 3:06 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:

> On Jan 5, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
> 
>> Btw, i see i was already subscribed to the new dev@.. list automatically.
>> How's the transition of messages working  ? Will the incubator list
>> disappear ? Messages sent to one list will sent to both ?  Just curious.
> 
> They "moved" the existing archives, and I think (at least for now) the old alias is still being forwarded to the new lists. I am not sure for how long that will be the case.

I'm not aware of any policy to remove old aliases - it should keep working. It's not really a new list, the other one was just moved and the old address aliased to it.

- Brett

--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
http://twitter.com/brettporter






Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
On Jan 5, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:

> Btw, i see i was already subscribed to the new dev@.. list automatically.
> How's the transition of messages working  ? Will the incubator list
> disappear ? Messages sent to one list will sent to both ?  Just curious.

They "moved" the existing archives, and I think (at least for now) the old alias is still being forwarded to the new lists. I am not sure for how long that will be the case.

Greetings, Marcel


Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
Btw, i see i was already subscribed to the new dev@.. list automatically.
How's the transition of messages working  ? Will the incubator list
disappear ? Messages sent to one list will sent to both ?  Just curious.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com> wrote:

> If this still matters (see this mail was sent yesterday), report looks
> good!
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Marcel Offermans <
> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After JB created an initial version of the report this morning (thanks!)
>> I took the liberty of adding to it, and restructuring it to conform to the
>> guidelines that are mentioned here:
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/reporting
>>
>> Please all read it and comment, so I can submit it this evening:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ACE/Board+Report+(2012-01)
>>
>> Greetings, Marcel
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Toni Menzel Source <http://tonimenzel.com>
>
>


-- 
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
If this still matters (see this mail was sent yesterday), report looks good!

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Marcel Offermans <
marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> After JB created an initial version of the report this morning (thanks!) I
> took the liberty of adding to it, and restructuring it to conform to the
> guidelines that are mentioned here:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/reporting
>
> Please all read it and comment, so I can submit it this evening:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ACE/Board+Report+(2012-01)
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
>


-- 
Toni Menzel Source <http://tonimenzel.com>

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
Hi all,

After JB created an initial version of the report this morning (thanks!) I took the liberty of adding to it, and restructuring it to conform to the guidelines that are mentioned here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/reporting

Please all read it and comment, so I can submit it this evening: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ACE/Board+Report+(2012-01)

Greetings, Marcel


Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
Great, thanks Marcel!

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Marcel Offermans <
marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:

> On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>
> > We're basically here:
> >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
> >
> > As you can see, the process starts with a list of things I need to do as
> a chair. I'm working on getting all of them done asap now, so the assembly
> of the new PMC can start.
>
> Started collecting tasks for infra here:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4265
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
>


-- 
Toni Menzel Source <http://tonimenzel.com>

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:

> We're basically here:
> 
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
> 
> As you can see, the process starts with a list of things I need to do as a chair. I'm working on getting all of them done asap now, so the assembly of the new PMC can start.

Started collecting tasks for infra here:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4265

Greetings, Marcel


Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Toni Menzel wrote:

> Happy New Year, everyone.

Same to you and everyone else on the list!

> Out of curiosity : Where in the process are we ? Any way to track this ?

We're basically here:

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation

As you can see, the process starts with a list of things I need to do as a chair. I'm working on getting all of them done asap now, so the assembly of the new PMC can start.

> How can i help out - if possible at all?

So far, not much I'm afraid. A lot of it is on either my plate, or infra. You could have a go at an initial text for the board report for this month if you like.

> While graduation is big celebration - its also a pause to the projects
> progress - so it should be a short time frame - shouldn't it ?

Agreed. On the other hand, as long as infra is not yet migrating our resources, everybody can still contribute patches, ideas and commit code, so work does not have to come to a halt now!

One thing I am considering, is migrating our website to the new Apache CMS. As you might or might not know, Confluence is being slowly fased out as a CMS for the website of projects (it can still be used as a wiki though). In stead, a new CMS was created and graduation might be a good moment in time to migrate to it. WDYT?

Greetings, Marcel


> 
> Toni
> 
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Marcel Offermans <
> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I'm aware of that, thanks for the heads up, Brett. It will be our
>> first board report after graduation, or rather, in the middle of graduation.
>> 
>> I'll start this report later today!
>> 
>> Greetings, Marcel
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
>> 
>>> I removed ACE from the incubator reporting wiki pages, so hopefully this
>> won't come around in this form again.
>>> 
>>> (However, you do need to report this month, which the chair is aware of)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Brett
>>> 
>>> On 02/01/2012, at 12:59 AM, Marvin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dear podling,
>>>> 
>>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
>> Incubator PMC.
>>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your
>> quarterly
>>>> board report.
>>>> 
>>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 PST.
>> The report
>>>> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The
>> Incubator PMC
>>>> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting,
>> to allow
>>>> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Dec 5th).
>>>> 
>>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
>> PMC, and
>>>> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest
>> you
>>>> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>>> 
>>>> Submitting your Report
>>>> ----------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Your report should contain the following:
>>>> 
>>>> * Your project name
>>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
>> the project
>>>> or necessarily of its field
>>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>> towards
>>>> graduation.
>>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
>> aware of
>>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
>>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>> 
>>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>>> 
>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2012
>>>> 
>>>> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
>> this page is
>>>>    created from a template.
>>>> 
>>>> Mentors
>>>> -------
>>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
>> the
>>>> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following
>> the
>>>> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the
>> Incubator PMC.
>>>> 
>>>> Incubator PMC
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Brett Porter
>>> brett@apache.org
>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
>>> http://twitter.com/brettporter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Toni Menzel Source <http://tonimenzel.com>


Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
Happy New Year, everyone.
Out of curiosity : Where in the process are we ? Any way to track this ?
How can i help out - if possible at all?
While graduation is big celebration - its also a pause to the projects
progress - so it should be a short time frame - shouldn't it ?

Toni

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Marcel Offermans <
marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:

> Yes, I'm aware of that, thanks for the heads up, Brett. It will be our
> first board report after graduation, or rather, in the middle of graduation.
>
> I'll start this report later today!
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
> > I removed ACE from the incubator reporting wiki pages, so hopefully this
> won't come around in this form again.
> >
> > (However, you do need to report this month, which the chair is aware of)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brett
> >
> > On 02/01/2012, at 12:59 AM, Marvin wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear podling,
> >>
> >> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> Incubator PMC.
> >> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your
> quarterly
> >> board report.
> >>
> >> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 PST.
> The report
> >> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The
> Incubator PMC
> >> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting,
> to allow
> >> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Dec 5th).
> >>
> >> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
> PMC, and
> >> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest
> you
> >> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> The Apache Incubator PMC
> >>
> >> Submitting your Report
> >> ----------------------
> >>
> >> Your report should contain the following:
> >>
> >> * Your project name
> >> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
> the project
> >>  or necessarily of its field
> >> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> towards
> >>  graduation.
> >> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
> aware of
> >> * How has the community developed since the last report
> >> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> >>
> >> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> >>
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2012
> >>
> >> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> this page is
> >>     created from a template.
> >>
> >> Mentors
> >> -------
> >> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> the
> >> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following
> the
> >> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the
> Incubator PMC.
> >>
> >> Incubator PMC
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Brett Porter
> > brett@apache.org
> > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> > http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> > http://twitter.com/brettporter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Toni Menzel Source <http://tonimenzel.com>

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
Yes, I'm aware of that, thanks for the heads up, Brett. It will be our first board report after graduation, or rather, in the middle of graduation.

I'll start this report later today!

Greetings, Marcel


On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Brett Porter wrote:

> I removed ACE from the incubator reporting wiki pages, so hopefully this won't come around in this form again.
> 
> (However, you do need to report this month, which the chair is aware of)
> 
> Cheers,
> Brett
> 
> On 02/01/2012, at 12:59 AM, Marvin wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear podling,
>> 
>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
>> board report.
>> 
>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The report 
>> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC 
>> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to allow 
>> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Dec 5th).
>> 
>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and 
>> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you 
>> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>> 
>> Submitting your Report
>> ----------------------
>> 
>> Your report should contain the following:
>> 
>> * Your project name
>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
>>  or necessarily of its field
>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards 
>>  graduation.
>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>> * How has the community developed since the last report
>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>> 
>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>> 
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2012
>> 
>> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
>>     created from a template.
>> 
>> Mentors
>> -------
>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the 
>> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the 
>> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.
>> 
>> Incubator PMC
>> 
> 
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> http://twitter.com/brettporter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jan 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
I removed ACE from the incubator reporting wiki pages, so hopefully this won't come around in this form again.

(However, you do need to report this month, which the chair is aware of)

Cheers,
Brett

On 02/01/2012, at 12:59 AM, Marvin wrote:

> 
> 
> Dear podling,
> 
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
> board report.
> 
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The report 
> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC 
> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to allow 
> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Dec 5th).
> 
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and 
> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you 
> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> The Apache Incubator PMC
> 
> Submitting your Report
> ----------------------
> 
> Your report should contain the following:
> 
> * Your project name
> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
>   or necessarily of its field
> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards 
>   graduation.
> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
> * How has the community developed since the last report
> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> 
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> 
>  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2012
> 
> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
>      created from a template.
> 
> Mentors
> -------
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the 
> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the 
> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.
> 
> Incubator PMC
> 

--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
http://twitter.com/brettporter