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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> on 2013/08/30 18:22:37 UTC

[Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Hi guys,

On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it does for
Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?

http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven

Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to this
specific page myself?

Thanks,
Marty

Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by Ian Duffy <ia...@ianduffy.ie>.
>
> I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but unfortunately
> it
> is not on the Wiki Environment page.


Just to note that was sub task of the Google summer of code Project. We
were using subtasks on the parent task to keep mentors up to date on
progress.

On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it does for
> Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?


maven2 will not work from what I recall of my experience awhile back.

I found myself reading various instructions to get the dev environment up
when I did it, hence the blog post. mentioned in the linked ticket.


On 30 August 2013 20:23, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > After more searching I have found:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
> > which
> > seems the most comprehensive.
> >
> > Would it be possible to have this guide instead of
> > http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html<
> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven>
> > as
> > multiple near identical installation instructions are bound to cause
> > confusion.
> >
> > Marty
> >
>
> Ok Marty, I will try to work on it next week
>
> thanks for hunting down the wiki ( I hate wikis )
>
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sebastian,
> >>
> >> I found the answer in the INSTALL.md file in the main repo, maven is
> 3.0.5.
> >>
> >> I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but
> unfortunately
> >> it is not on the Wiki Environment page.
> >>
> >> Marty
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>
> >>>> On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it
> does
> >>> for
> >>>> Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
> >>>>
> >>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
> >>>>
> >>>> Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to this
> >>>> specific page myself?
> >>>
> >>> I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.
> >>>
> >>> If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.
> >>>
> >>> To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a
> svn
> >>> repo separate from the source code.
> >>>
> >>> -sebastien
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Marty
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com>.
On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:

> After more searching I have found:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
> which
> seems the most comprehensive.
> 
> Would it be possible to have this guide instead of
> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html<http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven>
> as
> multiple near identical installation instructions are bound to cause
> confusion.
> 
> Marty
> 

Ok Marty, I will try to work on it next week

thanks for hunting down the wiki ( I hate wikis )

> 
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> 
>> I found the answer in the INSTALL.md file in the main repo, maven is 3.0.5.
>> 
>> I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but unfortunately
>> it is not on the Wiki Environment page.
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> 
>>>> On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it does
>>> for
>>>> Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
>>>> 
>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
>>>> 
>>>> Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to this
>>>> specific page myself?
>>> 
>>> I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.
>>> 
>>> If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.
>>> 
>>> To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a svn
>>> repo separate from the source code.
>>> 
>>> -sebastien
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> 
>> 


Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by Alexander Hitchins <cl...@alexhitchins.com>.
Excellent, when I'm at that stage I will certianly pass it on. Be great 
to be able to give something back to the community.

On 9/2/2013 9:27 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote:
> H Alex,
>
> Would sound like a good thing in taking away hurdles for starting
> contributers. Make sure all the bookmarks are on the desktop:)
>
> So go do it, the community will be greatful.
>
> Greetings,
> Daan
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Alexander Hitchins
> <cl...@alexhitchins.com> wrote:
>> Would there be any milage in creating template vm's set up with a working
>> dev environment? Then we could download the image, run and just then update
>> source via Git. This is what I was planning to do within my organisation. If
>> other may find it useful then I'll try to ensure it's available for all.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On 9/2/2013 9:09 AM, Sebastien Goasguen wrote:
>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:12 AM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe have a link off the enviroment page which links to the Wiki.
>>> Ok I did that, we just need to think about how to clean this up.
>>>
>>>> I found the Wiki guides helpful for setting up, maybe just a 'Development
>>>> environment in rhel' and 'Development environment in Debian' section.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
>>>> is
>>>> messy but if you logically pick out the steps it works.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe:
>>>> - Setup Debian
>>>> - Setup RHEL
>>>> - Pull Repo
>>>>
>>>> Should we also be encouraging users to make a github clone and work from
>>>> there? I have seen that mentioned in one place, can't remember where now.
>>>>
>>> We have talked about moving the docs to a separate repo. I think we need
>>> to do that, then accept pull requests for the docs.
>>> that would allow folks to correct/help with docs.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Marty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> After more searching I have found:
>>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> seems the most comprehensive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would it be possible to have this guide instead of
>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html<
>>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven>
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> multiple near identical installation instructions are bound to cause
>>>>>> confusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at this the webpage:
>>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Mixes 4.0 release instructions and 4.1+
>>>>> It also mixes ubuntu/debian and rhel flavors.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure what's the best to clean this up. We can remove the 4.0
>>>>> instructions and we can pick one OS
>>>>>
>>>>> Developers should look for info on the wiki while all info for users
>>>>> should be in the docs (in an ideal world).
>>>>>
>>>>> We can't really duplicate all info on the website.
>>>>>
>>>>> thoughts ?
>>>>>
>>>>> -sebastien
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found the answer in the INSTALL.md file in the main repo, maven is
>>>>> 3.0.5.
>>>>>>> I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but
>>>>> unfortunately
>>>>>>> it is not on the Wiki Environment page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it
>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> specific page myself?
>>>>>>>> I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a
>>>>> svn
>>>>>>>> repo separate from the source code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -sebastien
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>
>> --
>>
>> Alexander Hitchins
>> -------------------------
>> e: alex@alexhitchins.com
>> w: alexhitchins.com
>> m: 07788 423 969
>>

-- 
​
Alexander Hitchins
-------------------------
e: alex@alexhitchins.com
w: alexhitchins.com
m: 07788 423 969


Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
H Alex,

Would sound like a good thing in taking away hurdles for starting
contributers. Make sure all the bookmarks are on the desktop:)

So go do it, the community will be greatful.

Greetings,
Daan

On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Alexander Hitchins
<cl...@alexhitchins.com> wrote:
> Would there be any milage in creating template vm's set up with a working
> dev environment? Then we could download the image, run and just then update
> source via Git. This is what I was planning to do within my organisation. If
> other may find it useful then I'll try to ensure it's available for all.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On 9/2/2013 9:09 AM, Sebastien Goasguen wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:12 AM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe have a link off the enviroment page which links to the Wiki.
>>
>> Ok I did that, we just need to think about how to clean this up.
>>
>>> I found the Wiki guides helpful for setting up, maybe just a 'Development
>>> environment in rhel' and 'Development environment in Debian' section.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
>>> is
>>> messy but if you logically pick out the steps it works.
>>>
>>> Maybe:
>>> - Setup Debian
>>> - Setup RHEL
>>> - Pull Repo
>>>
>>> Should we also be encouraging users to make a github clone and work from
>>> there? I have seen that mentioned in one place, can't remember where now.
>>>
>> We have talked about moving the docs to a separate repo. I think we need
>> to do that, then accept pull requests for the docs.
>> that would allow folks to correct/help with docs.
>>
>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After more searching I have found:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
>>>>>
>>>>> which
>>>>> seems the most comprehensive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be possible to have this guide instead of
>>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html<
>>>>
>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven>
>>>>>
>>>>> as
>>>>> multiple near identical installation instructions are bound to cause
>>>>> confusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marty
>>>>>
>>>> Looking at this the webpage:
>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html
>>>>
>>>> Mixes 4.0 release instructions and 4.1+
>>>> It also mixes ubuntu/debian and rhel flavors.
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure what's the best to clean this up. We can remove the 4.0
>>>> instructions and we can pick one OS
>>>>
>>>> Developers should look for info on the wiki while all info for users
>>>> should be in the docs (in an ideal world).
>>>>
>>>> We can't really duplicate all info on the website.
>>>>
>>>> thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>> -sebastien
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found the answer in the INSTALL.md file in the main repo, maven is
>>>>
>>>> 3.0.5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but
>>>>
>>>> unfortunately
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it is not on the Wiki Environment page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it
>>>>
>>>> does
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> specific page myself?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a
>>>>
>>>> svn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> repo separate from the source code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -sebastien
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>
> --
>
> Alexander Hitchins
> -------------------------
> e: alex@alexhitchins.com
> w: alexhitchins.com
> m: 07788 423 969
>

Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by Alexander Hitchins <cl...@alexhitchins.com>.
Would there be any milage in creating template vm's set up with a 
working dev environment? Then we could download the image, run and just 
then update source via Git. This is what I was planning to do within my 
organisation. If other may find it useful then I'll try to ensure it's 
available for all.

Alex

On 9/2/2013 9:09 AM, Sebastien Goasguen wrote:
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:12 AM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe have a link off the enviroment page which links to the Wiki.
> Ok I did that, we just need to think about how to clean this up.
>
>> I found the Wiki guides helpful for setting up, maybe just a 'Development
>> environment in rhel' and 'Development environment in Debian' section.
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
>> is
>> messy but if you logically pick out the steps it works.
>>
>> Maybe:
>> - Setup Debian
>> - Setup RHEL
>> - Pull Repo
>>
>> Should we also be encouraging users to make a github clone and work from
>> there? I have seen that mentioned in one place, can't remember where now.
>>
> We have talked about moving the docs to a separate repo. I think we need to do that, then accept pull requests for the docs.
> that would allow folks to correct/help with docs.
>
>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> After more searching I have found:
>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
>>>> which
>>>> seems the most comprehensive.
>>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to have this guide instead of
>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html<
>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven>
>>>> as
>>>> multiple near identical installation instructions are bound to cause
>>>> confusion.
>>>>
>>>> Marty
>>>>
>>> Looking at this the webpage:
>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html
>>>
>>> Mixes 4.0 release instructions and 4.1+
>>> It also mixes ubuntu/debian and rhel flavors.
>>>
>>> I am not sure what's the best to clean this up. We can remove the 4.0
>>> instructions and we can pick one OS
>>>
>>> Developers should look for info on the wiki while all info for users
>>> should be in the docs (in an ideal world).
>>>
>>> We can't really duplicate all info on the website.
>>>
>>> thoughts ?
>>>
>>> -sebastien
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>>>
>>>>> I found the answer in the INSTALL.md file in the main repo, maven is
>>> 3.0.5.
>>>>> I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but
>>> unfortunately
>>>>> it is not on the Wiki Environment page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it
>>> does
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to this
>>>>>>> specific page myself?
>>>>>> I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a
>>> svn
>>>>>> repo separate from the source code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sebastien
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>
>>>

-- 

Alexander Hitchins
-------------------------
e: alex@alexhitchins.com
w: alexhitchins.com
m: 07788 423 969


Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
On Sep 2, 2013, at 3:12 AM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe have a link off the enviroment page which links to the Wiki.

Ok I did that, we just need to think about how to clean this up.

> I found the Wiki guides helpful for setting up, maybe just a 'Development
> environment in rhel' and 'Development environment in Debian' section.
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
> is
> messy but if you logically pick out the steps it works.
> 
> Maybe:
> - Setup Debian
> - Setup RHEL
> - Pull Repo
> 
> Should we also be encouraging users to make a github clone and work from
> there? I have seen that mentioned in one place, can't remember where now.
> 

We have talked about moving the docs to a separate repo. I think we need to do that, then accept pull requests for the docs.
that would allow folks to correct/help with docs.


> Marty
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> After more searching I have found:
>>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
>>> which
>>> seems the most comprehensive.
>>> 
>>> Would it be possible to have this guide instead of
>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html<
>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven>
>>> as
>>> multiple near identical installation instructions are bound to cause
>>> confusion.
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
>> 
>> Looking at this the webpage:
>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html
>> 
>> Mixes 4.0 release instructions and 4.1+
>> It also mixes ubuntu/debian and rhel flavors.
>> 
>> I am not sure what's the best to clean this up. We can remove the 4.0
>> instructions and we can pick one OS
>> 
>> Developers should look for info on the wiki while all info for users
>> should be in the docs (in an ideal world).
>> 
>> We can't really duplicate all info on the website.
>> 
>> thoughts ?
>> 
>> -sebastien
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>> 
>>>> I found the answer in the INSTALL.md file in the main repo, maven is
>> 3.0.5.
>>>> 
>>>> I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but
>> unfortunately
>>>> it is not on the Wiki Environment page.
>>>> 
>>>> Marty
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it
>> does
>>>>> for
>>>>>> Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to this
>>>>>> specific page myself?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a
>> svn
>>>>> repo separate from the source code.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -sebastien
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Marty
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 


Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>.
Maybe have a link off the enviroment page which links to the Wiki.
I found the Wiki guides helpful for setting up, maybe just a 'Development
environment in rhel' and 'Development environment in Debian' section.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
is
messy but if you logically pick out the steps it works.

Maybe:
- Setup Debian
- Setup RHEL
- Pull Repo

Should we also be encouraging users to make a github clone and work from
there? I have seen that mentioned in one place, can't remember where now.

Marty


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > After more searching I have found:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
> > which
> > seems the most comprehensive.
> >
> > Would it be possible to have this guide instead of
> > http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html<
> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven>
> > as
> > multiple near identical installation instructions are bound to cause
> > confusion.
> >
> > Marty
> >
>
> Looking at this the webpage:
> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html
>
> Mixes 4.0 release instructions and 4.1+
> It also mixes ubuntu/debian and rhel flavors.
>
> I am not sure what's the best to clean this up. We can remove the 4.0
> instructions and we can pick one OS
>
> Developers should look for info on the wiki while all info for users
> should be in the docs (in an ideal world).
>
> We can't really duplicate all info on the website.
>
> thoughts ?
>
> -sebastien
>
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sebastian,
> >>
> >> I found the answer in the INSTALL.md file in the main repo, maven is
> 3.0.5.
> >>
> >> I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but
> unfortunately
> >> it is not on the Wiki Environment page.
> >>
> >> Marty
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>
> >>>> On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it
> does
> >>> for
> >>>> Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
> >>>>
> >>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
> >>>>
> >>>> Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to this
> >>>> specific page myself?
> >>>
> >>> I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.
> >>>
> >>> If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.
> >>>
> >>> To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a
> svn
> >>> repo separate from the source code.
> >>>
> >>> -sebastien
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Marty
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:

> After more searching I have found:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
> which
> seems the most comprehensive.
> 
> Would it be possible to have this guide instead of
> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html<http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven>
> as
> multiple near identical installation instructions are bound to cause
> confusion.
> 
> Marty
> 

Looking at this the webpage:
http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html

Mixes 4.0 release instructions and 4.1+
It also mixes ubuntu/debian and rhel flavors.

I am not sure what's the best to clean this up. We can remove the 4.0 instructions and we can pick one OS

Developers should look for info on the wiki while all info for users should be in the docs (in an ideal world).

We can't really duplicate all info on the website.

thoughts ?

-sebastien

> 
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> 
>> I found the answer in the INSTALL.md file in the main repo, maven is 3.0.5.
>> 
>> I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but unfortunately
>> it is not on the Wiki Environment page.
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> 
>>>> On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it does
>>> for
>>>> Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
>>>> 
>>>> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
>>>> 
>>>> Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to this
>>>> specific page myself?
>>> 
>>> I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.
>>> 
>>> If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.
>>> 
>>> To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a svn
>>> repo separate from the source code.
>>> 
>>> -sebastien
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> 
>> 


Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>.
After more searching I have found:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Setting+up+CloudStack+Development+Environment+on+Linux
which
seems the most comprehensive.

Would it be possible to have this guide instead of
http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html<http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven>
as
multiple near identical installation instructions are bound to cause
confusion.

Marty


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
>
> I found the answer in the INSTALL.md file in the main repo, maven is 3.0.5.
>
> I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but unfortunately
> it is not on the Wiki Environment page.
>
> Marty
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it does
>> for
>> > Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
>> >
>> > http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
>> >
>> > Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to this
>> > specific page myself?
>>
>> I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.
>>
>> If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.
>>
>> To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a svn
>> repo separate from the source code.
>>
>> -sebastien
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Marty
>>
>>
>

Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sebastian,

I found the answer in the INSTALL.md file in the main repo, maven is 3.0.5.

I see Ian has created a more detailed guide in this bug
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-2877, but unfortunately it
is not on the Wiki Environment page.

Marty


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 5:37 PM, sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it does
> for
> > Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
> >
> > http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
> >
> > Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to this
> > specific page myself?
>
> I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.
>
> If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.
>
> To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a svn
> repo separate from the source code.
>
> -sebastien
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marty
>
>

Re: [Doc] Developer Enviroment Wiki - Maven

Posted by sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com>.
On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Marty Sweet <ms...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> On this wiki it does not cover the installation of Maven, while it does for
> Ant, Tomcat and MySQL. Should users install 'maven' or 'maven2'?
> 
> http://cloudstack.apache.org/develop/environment.html#maven
> 
> Would it be worth filing a bug? I am unsure how to contribute to this
> specific page myself?

I am pretty sure it's maven3, but it might work with maven2 as well.

If you find the answer :) you can file a bug and I will pick it up.

To edit the website you need to be a committer, the site is kept in a svn repo separate from the source code.

-sebastien

> 
> Thanks,
> Marty