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Posted to diversity@apache.org by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> on 2019/04/30 23:52:25 UTC
ApacheCon NA
The call for presentations for ApacheCon North America closes in less
than 2 weeks, so I assume anyone planning a presentation has either
already submitted it, or is close to doing so.
Can the D&I papers fit in the Community track? Does Diversity need a
separate partial track?
In some ways going in the Community track seems better to me because
there may be more opportunity to bring diversity issues to the attention
of people who are interested in Community but not yet thinking about
diversity.
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>.
I would love to help with this, but a medical situation has just got a
bit worse, and I don't know how much time and energy I will have between
now and ApacheConNA. I am not even sure I will be able to attend.
I would be happy to help on as and when I can, but I cannot commit to a
role where failure to act could cause problems.
On 5/8/2019 11:48 AM, Gris Cuevas wrote:
>
> Hi Patricia - thank you so much for bringing this to attention.
>
> I agree with you that D&I should be part of community track for the reason you stated, that been said, would you be willing to help represent the D&I POV in the selection committee for the community track? You and I could coordinate selecting content and specially mapping gaps where we could work on inviting speakers who are matter experts.
>
> For example, I'd love to have a panel on D&I and invite folks from Mozilla and Drupal, also from CHAOSS and ask Sharan to moderate.
>
> I would also love to facilitate a brainstorming session on what could we do as a community to address D&I in our projects in a safe and compelling way.
>
> There might be content that overlaps with this, but we don't know until we review the submissions.
>
> Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to represent D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work with me to identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
>
> @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting external folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be supportive of this?
>
> On 2019/05/01 18:54:03, Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 5/1/2019 9:52 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/30/19 7:52 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>>>> The call for presentations for ApacheCon North America closes in less
>>>> than 2 weeks, so I assume anyone planning a presentation has either
>>>> already submitted it, or is close to doing so.
>>>
>>> If only this were so. History says that 50% of submissions will come in
>>> the last week, and almost 50% of *that* in the last 48 hours. People do
>>> like to put this off as long as possible.
>>
>> To clarify: I did not mean the submissions would already be in, but that
>> most people who will turn them in on the last day have already given the
>> matter at least some thought.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can the D&I papers fit in the Community track? Does Diversity need a
>>>> separate partial track?
>>>>
>>>> In some ways going in the Community track seems better to me because
>>>> there may be more opportunity to bring diversity issues to the attention
>>>> of people who are interested in Community but not yet thinking about
>>>> diversity.
>>>
>>> Related: I just sent a CFP export to planners@ and you can have a look
>>> there to see what the current state is of the community track, and D&I
>>> submissions.
>>>
>>> However, the people here on this list right now are the ones best placed
>>> to submit those D&I talks, or to specifically go out and invite the
>>> people that we want to give them. Please, if you know the right people
>>> for this, do go be proactive in inviting them.
>>>
>>> --Rich
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>.
Hi Griselda,
I’ll be happy to help out.
Dinesh
> On May 9, 2019, at 8:02 AM, Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Ok great! - I will wait for Patricia to decide wether she can help us here.
>
> I was also thinking of Dinesh, who expressed interest on doing this. @Dinesh Joshi would you be interested in helping us curate D&I content for ApacheCon?
>
> From: Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>
> Date: Wed, May 8, 2019, 6:49 PM
> To: <di...@apache.org>
>
>> On Wed, May 8, 2019, 14:48 Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to represent
>> > D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work with me to
>> > identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
>> >
>> > @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting external
>> > folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be supportive
>> > of this?
>> >
>>
>> Absolutely. Indeed I think it's probably my preferred model - that you
>> decide on the story you want to tell and curate the talks that tell that
>> story.
Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
If y'all can get enough content together for a half a day of content, I'd
love to have a track on this at ApacheCon EU.
Best,
Myrle
On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 12:19 AM Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.invalid>
wrote:
> <context>
> How I approach event content is by thinking first on the story I want to
> tell (big picture), then I think of the ideas/topics that will support that
> topic and make them them the focus of each talk. I select proposed talks or
> think of who to invite to talk about each topic.
>
> Then I think of the time we have in the conference, considering breaks,
> meals, etc.. Then I break down the time into chunks of 30 or 60 min, these
> will be my available talk slots. Then I match ideas with time slots and
> that's how I come up with an event agenda.
>
> For example, In an event I organized as part of my day-to-day job, I had
> the objective of providing my colleagues the knowledge that would help them
> understand first the impact of open source as an industry and then why open
> source is important for the company, I wanted them to see the value first.
> Then I wanted to give them tools to be good citizens in the space, so I
> ended with talks that refer to the specific experience on being a
> committer. I went from a big picture to an individual view.
>
> </context>
>
> I'd advise you check with Sharan & Shane how many talks we can dedicate to
> D&I and start from there, then think of the story you'd like to tell and
> select from the submitted talks, I'd recommend looking for topics areas we
> don't have submissions for and identify speakers we'd like to invite to
> cover those.
>
> *From: *Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>
> *Date: *Fri, 10 May 2019 at 14:46
> *To: * <di...@apache.org>
>
> +1
> >
> > I don't really have a preference but getting together a list of speakers
> > and type of content we need would be a great first step. I am not sure
> how
> > this was done in the past. Guidance appreciated!
> >
> > Dinesh
> >
> > > On May 10, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Dinesh, I am more than happy to help if you need extra eyes and hands
> to
> > > curate the content for D&I at ApacheCon. Gris, we could start by
> putting
> > > down the list of speakers we want to invite to talk about diversity.
> Once
> > > we agree on few, we should start reaching out to them as early as
> > possible.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Aizhamal
> > >
> > > *From: *Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org>
> > > *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:14 PM
> > > *To: * <di...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > Thank you Aizhamal & Dinesh for volunteering, and Patricia for starting
> > >> this and helping us drive it.
> > >>
> > >> Dinesh & Aizhamal - any preference in how to drive this effort?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 2019/05/09 18:17:02, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > <ai...@google.com.INVALID>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> Hi Gris,
> > >>>
> > >>> I will be happy to help to curate the content as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> +1 for D&I being under Community track. I and my colleague submitted
> a
> > >> talk
> > >>> under Community track that also closely relates to D&I.
> > >>>
> > >>> Let me know if I can help in any way.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Aizhamal
> > >>>
> > >>> *From: *Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>
> > >>> *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 08:06
> > >>> *To: * <di...@apache.org>
> > >>>
> > >>> I think you have excellent people in better health available, so I
> > >>>> recommend using them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/9/2019 8:02 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> > >>>>> Ok great! - I will wait for Patricia to decide wether she can help
> us
> > >>>> here.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I was also thinking of Dinesh, who expressed interest on doing
> this.
> > >>>> @Dinesh
> > >>>>> Joshi <di...@gmail.com> would you be interested in
> helping
> > >> us
> > >>>>> curate D&I content for ApacheCon?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> *From: *Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>
> > >>>>> *Date: *Wed, May 8, 2019, 6:49 PM
> > >>>>> *To: * <di...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2019, 14:48 Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to
> > >> represent
> > >>>>>>> D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work
> > >> with
> > >>>> me
> > >>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>> identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting
> > >> external
> > >>>>>>> folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be
> > >>>> supportive
> > >>>>>>> of this?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Absolutely. Indeed I think it's probably my preferred model -
> that
> > >> you
> > >>>>>> decide on the story you want to tell and curate the talks that
> tell
> > >> that
> > >>>>>> story.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.INVALID>.
<context>
How I approach event content is by thinking first on the story I want to
tell (big picture), then I think of the ideas/topics that will support that
topic and make them them the focus of each talk. I select proposed talks or
think of who to invite to talk about each topic.
Then I think of the time we have in the conference, considering breaks,
meals, etc.. Then I break down the time into chunks of 30 or 60 min, these
will be my available talk slots. Then I match ideas with time slots and
that's how I come up with an event agenda.
For example, In an event I organized as part of my day-to-day job, I had
the objective of providing my colleagues the knowledge that would help them
understand first the impact of open source as an industry and then why open
source is important for the company, I wanted them to see the value first.
Then I wanted to give them tools to be good citizens in the space, so I
ended with talks that refer to the specific experience on being a
committer. I went from a big picture to an individual view.
</context>
I'd advise you check with Sharan & Shane how many talks we can dedicate to
D&I and start from there, then think of the story you'd like to tell and
select from the submitted talks, I'd recommend looking for topics areas we
don't have submissions for and identify speakers we'd like to invite to
cover those.
*From: *Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>
*Date: *Fri, 10 May 2019 at 14:46
*To: * <di...@apache.org>
+1
>
> I don't really have a preference but getting together a list of speakers
> and type of content we need would be a great first step. I am not sure how
> this was done in the past. Guidance appreciated!
>
> Dinesh
>
> > On May 10, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Dinesh, I am more than happy to help if you need extra eyes and hands to
> > curate the content for D&I at ApacheCon. Gris, we could start by putting
> > down the list of speakers we want to invite to talk about diversity. Once
> > we agree on few, we should start reaching out to them as early as
> possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aizhamal
> >
> > *From: *Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org>
> > *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:14 PM
> > *To: * <di...@apache.org>
> >
> > Thank you Aizhamal & Dinesh for volunteering, and Patricia for starting
> >> this and helping us drive it.
> >>
> >> Dinesh & Aizhamal - any preference in how to drive this effort?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2019/05/09 18:17:02, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> <ai...@google.com.INVALID>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi Gris,
> >>>
> >>> I will be happy to help to curate the content as well.
> >>>
> >>> +1 for D&I being under Community track. I and my colleague submitted a
> >> talk
> >>> under Community track that also closely relates to D&I.
> >>>
> >>> Let me know if I can help in any way.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Aizhamal
> >>>
> >>> *From: *Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>
> >>> *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 08:06
> >>> *To: * <di...@apache.org>
> >>>
> >>> I think you have excellent people in better health available, so I
> >>>> recommend using them.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/9/2019 8:02 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> >>>>> Ok great! - I will wait for Patricia to decide wether she can help us
> >>>> here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was also thinking of Dinesh, who expressed interest on doing this.
> >>>> @Dinesh
> >>>>> Joshi <di...@gmail.com> would you be interested in helping
> >> us
> >>>>> curate D&I content for ApacheCon?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *From: *Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>
> >>>>> *Date: *Wed, May 8, 2019, 6:49 PM
> >>>>> *To: * <di...@apache.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2019, 14:48 Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to
> >> represent
> >>>>>>> D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work
> >> with
> >>>> me
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting
> >> external
> >>>>>>> folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be
> >>>> supportive
> >>>>>>> of this?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Absolutely. Indeed I think it's probably my preferred model - that
> >> you
> >>>>>> decide on the story you want to tell and curate the talks that tell
> >> that
> >>>>>> story.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>.
+1
I don't really have a preference but getting together a list of speakers and type of content we need would be a great first step. I am not sure how this was done in the past. Guidance appreciated!
Dinesh
> On May 10, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Dinesh, I am more than happy to help if you need extra eyes and hands to
> curate the content for D&I at ApacheCon. Gris, we could start by putting
> down the list of speakers we want to invite to talk about diversity. Once
> we agree on few, we should start reaching out to them as early as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Aizhamal
>
> *From: *Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org>
> *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:14 PM
> *To: * <di...@apache.org>
>
> Thank you Aizhamal & Dinesh for volunteering, and Patricia for starting
>> this and helping us drive it.
>>
>> Dinesh & Aizhamal - any preference in how to drive this effort?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2019/05/09 18:17:02, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Gris,
>>>
>>> I will be happy to help to curate the content as well.
>>>
>>> +1 for D&I being under Community track. I and my colleague submitted a
>> talk
>>> under Community track that also closely relates to D&I.
>>>
>>> Let me know if I can help in any way.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aizhamal
>>>
>>> *From: *Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>
>>> *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 08:06
>>> *To: * <di...@apache.org>
>>>
>>> I think you have excellent people in better health available, so I
>>>> recommend using them.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/9/2019 8:02 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
>>>>> Ok great! - I will wait for Patricia to decide wether she can help us
>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was also thinking of Dinesh, who expressed interest on doing this.
>>>> @Dinesh
>>>>> Joshi <di...@gmail.com> would you be interested in helping
>> us
>>>>> curate D&I content for ApacheCon?
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Wed, May 8, 2019, 6:49 PM
>>>>> *To: * <di...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2019, 14:48 Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to
>> represent
>>>>>>> D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work
>> with
>>>> me
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting
>> external
>>>>>>> folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be
>>>> supportive
>>>>>>> of this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Absolutely. Indeed I think it's probably my preferred model - that
>> you
>>>>>> decide on the story you want to tell and curate the talks that tell
>> that
>>>>>> story.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID>.
Hi everyone,
Dinesh, I am more than happy to help if you need extra eyes and hands to
curate the content for D&I at ApacheCon. Gris, we could start by putting
down the list of speakers we want to invite to talk about diversity. Once
we agree on few, we should start reaching out to them as early as possible.
Thanks,
Aizhamal
*From: *Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org>
*Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:14 PM
*To: * <di...@apache.org>
Thank you Aizhamal & Dinesh for volunteering, and Patricia for starting
> this and helping us drive it.
>
> Dinesh & Aizhamal - any preference in how to drive this effort?
>
>
>
> On 2019/05/09 18:17:02, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID>
> wrote:
> > Hi Gris,
> >
> > I will be happy to help to curate the content as well.
> >
> > +1 for D&I being under Community track. I and my colleague submitted a
> talk
> > under Community track that also closely relates to D&I.
> >
> > Let me know if I can help in any way.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aizhamal
> >
> > *From: *Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>
> > *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 08:06
> > *To: * <di...@apache.org>
> >
> > I think you have excellent people in better health available, so I
> > > recommend using them.
> > >
> > > On 5/9/2019 8:02 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> > > > Ok great! - I will wait for Patricia to decide wether she can help us
> > > here.
> > > >
> > > > I was also thinking of Dinesh, who expressed interest on doing this.
> > > @Dinesh
> > > > Joshi <di...@gmail.com> would you be interested in helping
> us
> > > > curate D&I content for ApacheCon?
> > > >
> > > > *From: *Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>
> > > > *Date: *Wed, May 8, 2019, 6:49 PM
> > > > *To: * <di...@apache.org>
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 8, 2019, 14:48 Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to
> represent
> > > >>> D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work
> with
> > > me
> > > >> to
> > > >>> identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting
> external
> > > >>> folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be
> > > supportive
> > > >>> of this?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Absolutely. Indeed I think it's probably my preferred model - that
> you
> > > >> decide on the story you want to tell and curate the talks that tell
> that
> > > >> story.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org>.
Thank you Aizhamal & Dinesh for volunteering, and Patricia for starting this and helping us drive it.
Dinesh & Aizhamal - any preference in how to drive this effort?
On 2019/05/09 18:17:02, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> Hi Gris,
>
> I will be happy to help to curate the content as well.
>
> +1 for D&I being under Community track. I and my colleague submitted a talk
> under Community track that also closely relates to D&I.
>
> Let me know if I can help in any way.
>
> Thanks,
> Aizhamal
>
> *From: *Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>
> *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 08:06
> *To: * <di...@apache.org>
>
> I think you have excellent people in better health available, so I
> > recommend using them.
> >
> > On 5/9/2019 8:02 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> > > Ok great! - I will wait for Patricia to decide wether she can help us
> > here.
> > >
> > > I was also thinking of Dinesh, who expressed interest on doing this.
> > @Dinesh
> > > Joshi <di...@gmail.com> would you be interested in helping us
> > > curate D&I content for ApacheCon?
> > >
> > > *From: *Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>
> > > *Date: *Wed, May 8, 2019, 6:49 PM
> > > *To: * <di...@apache.org>
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 8, 2019, 14:48 Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to represent
> > >>> D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work with
> > me
> > >> to
> > >>> identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
> > >>>
> > >>> @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting external
> > >>> folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be
> > supportive
> > >>> of this?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Absolutely. Indeed I think it's probably my preferred model - that you
> > >> decide on the story you want to tell and curate the talks that tell that
> > >> story.
> > >>
> > >
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID>.
Hi Gris,
I will be happy to help to curate the content as well.
+1 for D&I being under Community track. I and my colleague submitted a talk
under Community track that also closely relates to D&I.
Let me know if I can help in any way.
Thanks,
Aizhamal
*From: *Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>
*Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 08:06
*To: * <di...@apache.org>
I think you have excellent people in better health available, so I
> recommend using them.
>
> On 5/9/2019 8:02 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> > Ok great! - I will wait for Patricia to decide wether she can help us
> here.
> >
> > I was also thinking of Dinesh, who expressed interest on doing this.
> @Dinesh
> > Joshi <di...@gmail.com> would you be interested in helping us
> > curate D&I content for ApacheCon?
> >
> > *From: *Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>
> > *Date: *Wed, May 8, 2019, 6:49 PM
> > *To: * <di...@apache.org>
> >
> > On Wed, May 8, 2019, 14:48 Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to represent
> >>> D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work with
> me
> >> to
> >>> identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
> >>>
> >>> @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting external
> >>> folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be
> supportive
> >>> of this?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Absolutely. Indeed I think it's probably my preferred model - that you
> >> decide on the story you want to tell and curate the talks that tell that
> >> story.
> >>
> >
>
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>.
I think you have excellent people in better health available, so I
recommend using them.
On 5/9/2019 8:02 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> Ok great! - I will wait for Patricia to decide wether she can help us here.
>
> I was also thinking of Dinesh, who expressed interest on doing this. @Dinesh
> Joshi <di...@gmail.com> would you be interested in helping us
> curate D&I content for ApacheCon?
>
> *From: *Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>
> *Date: *Wed, May 8, 2019, 6:49 PM
> *To: * <di...@apache.org>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2019, 14:48 Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to represent
>>> D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work with me
>> to
>>> identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
>>>
>>> @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting external
>>> folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be supportive
>>> of this?
>>>
>>
>> Absolutely. Indeed I think it's probably my preferred model - that you
>> decide on the story you want to tell and curate the talks that tell that
>> story.
>>
>
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.INVALID>.
Ok great! - I will wait for Patricia to decide wether she can help us here.
I was also thinking of Dinesh, who expressed interest on doing this. @Dinesh
Joshi <di...@gmail.com> would you be interested in helping us
curate D&I content for ApacheCon?
*From: *Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>
*Date: *Wed, May 8, 2019, 6:49 PM
*To: * <di...@apache.org>
On Wed, May 8, 2019, 14:48 Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to represent
> > D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work with me
> to
> > identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
> >
> > @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting external
> > folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be supportive
> > of this?
> >
>
> Absolutely. Indeed I think it's probably my preferred model - that you
> decide on the story you want to tell and curate the talks that tell that
> story.
>
Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Wed, May 8, 2019, 14:48 Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to represent
> D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work with me to
> identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
>
> @Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting external
> folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be supportive
> of this?
>
Absolutely. Indeed I think it's probably my preferred model - that you
decide on the story you want to tell and curate the talks that tell that
story.
Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org>.
Hi Patricia - thank you so much for bringing this to attention.
I agree with you that D&I should be part of community track for the reason you stated, that been said, would you be willing to help represent the D&I POV in the selection committee for the community track? You and I could coordinate selecting content and specially mapping gaps where we could work on inviting speakers who are matter experts.
For example, I'd love to have a panel on D&I and invite folks from Mozilla and Drupal, also from CHAOSS and ask Sharan to moderate.
I would also love to facilitate a brainstorming session on what could we do as a community to address D&I in our projects in a safe and compelling way.
There might be content that overlaps with this, but we don't know until we review the submissions.
Anyway, re-stating my ask to you Patricia - Would you like to represent D&I in the reviewers committee for the community track, and work with me to identify gaps and proactively find content to address them?
@Rich - I'm assuming you'd be ok with us proactively inviting external folks and curating some content after CfP closes. Would you be supportive of this?
On 2019/05/01 18:54:03, Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 5/1/2019 9:52 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 4/30/19 7:52 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> >> The call for presentations for ApacheCon North America closes in less
> >> than 2 weeks, so I assume anyone planning a presentation has either
> >> already submitted it, or is close to doing so.
> >
> > If only this were so. History says that 50% of submissions will come in
> > the last week, and almost 50% of *that* in the last 48 hours. People do
> > like to put this off as long as possible.
>
> To clarify: I did not mean the submissions would already be in, but that
> most people who will turn them in on the last day have already given the
> matter at least some thought.
>
> >
> >>
> >> Can the D&I papers fit in the Community track? Does Diversity need a
> >> separate partial track?
> >>
> >> In some ways going in the Community track seems better to me because
> >> there may be more opportunity to bring diversity issues to the attention
> >> of people who are interested in Community but not yet thinking about
> >> diversity.
> >
> > Related: I just sent a CFP export to planners@ and you can have a look
> > there to see what the current state is of the community track, and D&I
> > submissions.
> >
> > However, the people here on this list right now are the ones best placed
> > to submit those D&I talks, or to specifically go out and invite the
> > people that we want to give them. Please, if you know the right people
> > for this, do go be proactive in inviting them.
> >
> > --Rich
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>.
On 5/1/2019 9:52 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>
> On 4/30/19 7:52 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>> The call for presentations for ApacheCon North America closes in less
>> than 2 weeks, so I assume anyone planning a presentation has either
>> already submitted it, or is close to doing so.
>
> If only this were so. History says that 50% of submissions will come in
> the last week, and almost 50% of *that* in the last 48 hours. People do
> like to put this off as long as possible.
To clarify: I did not mean the submissions would already be in, but that
most people who will turn them in on the last day have already given the
matter at least some thought.
>
>>
>> Can the D&I papers fit in the Community track? Does Diversity need a
>> separate partial track?
>>
>> In some ways going in the Community track seems better to me because
>> there may be more opportunity to bring diversity issues to the attention
>> of people who are interested in Community but not yet thinking about
>> diversity.
>
> Related: I just sent a CFP export to planners@ and you can have a look
> there to see what the current state is of the community track, and D&I
> submissions.
>
> However, the people here on this list right now are the ones best placed
> to submit those D&I talks, or to specifically go out and invite the
> people that we want to give them. Please, if you know the right people
> for this, do go be proactive in inviting them.
>
> --Rich
>
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 4/30/19 7:52 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> The call for presentations for ApacheCon North America closes in less
> than 2 weeks, so I assume anyone planning a presentation has either
> already submitted it, or is close to doing so.
If only this were so. History says that 50% of submissions will come in
the last week, and almost 50% of *that* in the last 48 hours. People do
like to put this off as long as possible.
>
> Can the D&I papers fit in the Community track? Does Diversity need a
> separate partial track?
>
> In some ways going in the Community track seems better to me because
> there may be more opportunity to bring diversity issues to the attention
> of people who are interested in Community but not yet thinking about
> diversity.
Related: I just sent a CFP export to planners@ and you can have a look
there to see what the current state is of the community track, and D&I
submissions.
However, the people here on this list right now are the ones best placed
to submit those D&I talks, or to specifically go out and invite the
people that we want to give them. Please, if you know the right people
for this, do go be proactive in inviting them.
--Rich
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Re: ApacheCon NA
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
On 4/30/2019 7:52 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> I assume anyone planning a presentation has either already submitted
> it, or is close to doing so.
I would say that's a bad assumption. My experience is the last 24 hours
can be a ton of submissions.
--
Kevin A. McGrail
Member, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
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