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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org> on 2002/12/27 10:09:14 UTC

[warning] Wiki being moved

Hi all,

I'm moving the Wiki to its new location on 
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp

I've temporarily disabled editing facilities on the old location, and 
will try to set up some decent redirection mechanism once the new one is 
up & running. In case you can't wait, please don't forget to re-set your 
  cookie by 'logging in' before editing.

The new site might become temporarily unavailable during the day - but 
not for long consecutive stretches.

Take care,

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Re: [warning] Wiki being moved

Posted by Konstantin Piroumian <kp...@apache.org>.
From: "Steven Noels" <st...@outerthought.org>
> Steven Noels wrote:
>
> > I'm moving the Wiki to its new location on
> > http://wiki.cocoondev.org/
>
> I'll quit fussing around for now - did some Forrestizing along the way.
> I didn't really pay much attention on validity of the generated HTML,
> and only checked in Moz1.2 and IE6 on W2K. If anyone has big problems
> reading the Wiki, please let me know.

Looks much better.

There is minor problem here in IE6 (with latest updates): after changing the
font size and refreshing a page or returning to it  by Back button the links
in the left menu are of the same color as the background (e.g.:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Struts). Seems like a problem with
CSS (if it's not a local problem).

Btw, the font is larger than it was originally set in Forrest. A smaller
Verdana font, IMHO, looks much better.

Konstantin

>
> Enjoy,
>
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Re: [warning] Wiki being moved

Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Steven Noels wrote:

>> 2) the left navbar contains a spacer that becomes visible (Moz1.2.1 on 
>> W2k) [you might want to change <hr /> with <br />, or tweak the CSS to 
>> make the <hr> separator look more evident]
> 
> 
> I've seen this too - I hope tweaking the CSS might help, since the 
> separator tag itself is generated by the Wiki text parser 
> (TranslatorReader) inside JSPWiki.

Fixed most of the other remarks, so I believe.

W.r.t. the <hr>, any CSS assistance is welcome.

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Re: [warning] Wiki being moved

Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> 1) the text in the search box should be white (now it's blue and there 
> is no enough contrast against the background to read it well... also I 
> don't think it should be a link)

Messy CSS, I guess. I'll see what I can do.

> 2) the left navbar contains a spacer that becomes visible (Moz1.2.1 on 
> W2k) [you might want to change <hr /> with <br />, or tweak the CSS to 
> make the <hr> separator look more evident]

I've seen this too - I hope tweaking the CSS might help, since the 
separator tag itself is generated by the Wiki text parser 
(TranslatorReader) inside JSPWiki.

> 3) I think that it is more pleasent looking if we move the "build with 
> apache forrest" bottom from the bottom and place it in the left navbar 
> (like below the RSS feeds, for example)

Good idea - I'll try and move (don't want to mess around with JSPWiki 
code too much, however).

I have been thinking about mounting some Cocoon Generator on top of the 
Wiki text sources, but unfortunately, the JSPWiki back-end isn't easily 
wrapped as a Generator due to fuzzy parsing, and much context-awareness, 
and the TextFormattingRules [1] are really twisted to _correctly_ 
implement with Chaperon. They are twisted enough that they are evidently 
badly implemented in the JSPWiki itself: 
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=BlocksDefinition contains some 
bad enumerations.

_____
[1] http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=TextFormattingRules

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Re: [warning] Wiki being moved

Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
Steven Noels wrote:
> Steven Noels wrote:
> 
>> I'm moving the Wiki to its new location on http://wiki.cocoondev.org/
> 
> 
> I'll quit fussing around for now - did some Forrestizing along the way. 
> I didn't really pay much attention on validity of the generated HTML, 
> and only checked in Moz1.2 and IE6 on W2K. If anyone has big problems 
> reading the Wiki, please let me know.

Very nice job!

A couple of things:

1) the text in the search box should be white (now it's blue and there 
is no enough contrast against the background to read it well... also I 
don't think it should be a link)

2) the left navbar contains a spacer that becomes visible (Moz1.2.1 on 
W2k) [you might want to change <hr /> with <br />, or tweak the CSS to 
make the <hr> separator look more evident]

3) I think that it is more pleasent looking if we move the "build with 
apache forrest" bottom from the bottom and place it in the left navbar 
(like below the RSS feeds, for example)

But these are just me being a picky PITA :)

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Re: [warning] Wiki being moved

Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Steven Noels wrote:

> I'm moving the Wiki to its new location on 
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/

I'll quit fussing around for now - did some Forrestizing along the way. 
I didn't really pay much attention on validity of the generated HTML, 
and only checked in Moz1.2 and IE6 on W2K. If anyone has big problems 
reading the Wiki, please let me know.

Enjoy,

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Re: [warning] Wiki being moved

Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Steven Noels wrote:

> I'm moving the Wiki to its new location on 
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/

I'll quit fussing around for now - did some Forrestizing along the way. 
I didn't really pay much attention on validity of the generated HTML, 
and only checked in Moz1.2 and IE6 on W2K. If anyone has big problems 
reading the Wiki, please let me know.

Enjoy,

</Steven>
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Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
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Re: [warning] Wiki being moved

Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Steven Noels wrote:

> I'm moving the Wiki to its new location on 
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/

I'll quit fussing around for now - did some Forrestizing along the way. 
I didn't really pay much attention on validity of the generated HTML, 
and only checked in Moz1.2 and IE6 on W2K. If anyone has big problems 
reading the Wiki, please let me know.

Enjoy,

</Steven>
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Re: [warning] Wiki being moved

Posted by Tony Collen <tc...@neuagency.com>.
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Steven Noels wrote:

> So you'll hit the Main page using:
>
>   - http://wiki.cocoondev.org/
>   - http://wiki.cocoondev.org/index.jsp
>   - http://wiki.cocoondev.org/wiki.jsp
>   - http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp <- real entry point
>
> Is that OK?

Yep, perfect, thanks :)


Tony


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Re: [warning] Wiki being moved

Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Tony Collen wrote:

> <request>
> Could you make /wiki.jsp redirect to /Wiki.jsp, too?  A problem I was
> having with the wiki at its old place was that I couldn't remember if the
> url was /Wiki/wiki.jsp, /wiki/Wiki.jsp, or any combination of such... I
> think an all-lowercase url would be easiest to remember :)
> </request>

There used to be a redirect from / to Wiki.jsp, and now also one from 
wiki.jsp. Parameters are not forwarded, though...

So you'll hit the Main page using:

  - http://wiki.cocoondev.org/
  - http://wiki.cocoondev.org/index.jsp
  - http://wiki.cocoondev.org/wiki.jsp
  - http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp <- real entry point

Is that OK?

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Re: [warning] Wiki being moved

Posted by Tony Collen <tc...@neuagency.com>.
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Steven Noels wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm moving the Wiki to its new location on
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp

<request>
Could you make /wiki.jsp redirect to /Wiki.jsp, too?  A problem I was
having with the wiki at its old place was that I couldn't remember if the
url was /Wiki/wiki.jsp, /wiki/Wiki.jsp, or any combination of such... I
think an all-lowercase url would be easiest to remember :)
</request>


Tony


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