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Is the X03 Jahia using Jetspeed?
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Hey. Just want to figure out what is going on here. I saw Jahia a while ago
but assumed it was Jetspeed with some more stuff. Now they have Jahia which is
not Open Source (I couldn't find the official license on the website but
Freshmeat says "Free To Use But Restricted".) Are they still using Jetspeed?
Anyway... I also saw their http://portletsapi.org site. Don't know what is
going on there...
Any thoughts? Just curious.
Kevin
About: JAHIA Portal Server is an easy and affordable Java solution for building
complex and dynamic Web sites. Unlike traditional corporate portal
solutions, JAHIA provides a comprehensive and out-of-the-box platform for
developing, integrating, delivering, and managing content, Web
applications, and Web services across intranets, extranets, and the
Internet. JAHIA Portal Server offers the first democratised solution for
all your Web projects.
Changes: New features include a personalized WebTop/Portal interface, built-in Web
publishing tools, dynamic Web site management functions, standardized
support for Java Web applications and Web services, a marketplace of
complementary Java components, J2EE application server reliance, enhanced
security with automatic inheritance mechanisms, and full Web-based
administration.
Release focus: Major feature enhancements
License: Free To Use But Restricted
Project URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/jahia/
Homepage: http://freshmeat.net/redir/jahia/7442/url_homepage/
Tar/GZ: http://freshmeat.net/redir/jahia/7442/url_tgz/
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Re: Is the X03 Jahia using Jetspeed?
Posted by burtonator <bu...@relativity.yi.org>.
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Serge Huber <sh...@xo3.com> writes:
> Hi all,
>
> I don't want to barge in here so I'm going to try to keep this as buzz free as
> possible :)
>
> Anyway, to answer Kevin's question, we are no longer packaging Jetspeed in our
> Jahia product. Following the autumn ApacheCon, we went back home strong of all
> the discussions about the orientation of the products, and we had to make a
> few strategic changes to our product line. This is why we developped a new
> product that is a mix of a web application portal, a site management system
> and a light content management system.
I still have yet to see what major advantages Jahia provides over say Jetspeed,
or any other Portal solution. Is there a better whitepaper I should read?
Maybe a Jetspeed vs Jahia smackdown document :)
> As for the Jetspeed project, we are still following the development, but sadly
> our investors no longer agreed with a purely open source business plan. I am
> sure that most of you can understand this given the current market conditions
> :)
I would just like to point out that true Freedom lies outside of market
conditions. Just because the market changes doesn't mean it becomes ethical to
develop proprietary software.
That said I also think that due to current market conditions it actually makes
LESS sense to buy a proprietary product. I mean if market conditions are bad
why would you pay $$$ to buy a proprietary product :)
It saddens me to see you guys going in the wrong direction :(
<snip>
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Re: Is the X03 Jahia using Jetspeed?
Posted by Serge Huber <sh...@xo3.com>.
Hi all,
I don't want to barge in here so I'm going to try to keep this as buzz free
as possible :)
Anyway, to answer Kevin's question, we are no longer packaging Jetspeed in
our Jahia product. Following the autumn ApacheCon, we went back home strong
of all the discussions about the orientation of the products, and we had to
make a few strategic changes to our product line. This is why we developped
a new product that is a mix of a web application portal, a site management
system and a light content management system.
For those of you that are interested, you might want to try the "Switch
mode" button which should enable you to interact with the CMS. You will
also find some documentation in the installation directory (in PDF format)
that should cover basic needs.
As for the Jetspeed project, we are still following the development, but
sadly our investors no longer agreed with a purely open source business
plan. I am sure that most of you can understand this given the current
market conditions :) Please rest assured that we still believe concensus
should be reached on portal technologies and that we think this will happen
through an open source body such as the ASF, the W3C or others.
Finally, concerning the portletsapi.org domain that is mostly remainders of
the previous orientation. We are working closely with Sun to see if they
want to do some leverage in this direction, but this takes forever with them :)
Best greetings,
Serge Huber
shuber@xo3.com
At 14:29 27.07.2001 -0700, you wrote:
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>"David Sean Taylor" <da...@bluesunrise.com> writes:
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> > Have you tried it yet?
> > I can't figure what the hell its supposed to do for me.
> > Its installed on one of my machines here: I will leave this up and running
> > for 1/2 day or so:
> >
> > http://63.197.229.131:8080/jahia/servlet/Jahia
> >
> > Login as :
> >
> > user: root
> > password: rootroot
>
>Yeah... I just tried your demo. I have to admit I am totally confused. What
>*is* it supposed to do? There was literally nothing on any of it's pages!
>
>I am just confused now :(
>
>Kevin
>
>
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Re: Is the X03 Jahia using Jetspeed?
Posted by burtonator <bu...@relativity.yi.org>.
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"David Sean Taylor" <da...@bluesunrise.com> writes:
> Have you tried it yet?
> I can't figure what the hell its supposed to do for me.
> Its installed on one of my machines here: I will leave this up and running
> for 1/2 day or so:
>
> http://63.197.229.131:8080/jahia/servlet/Jahia
>
> Login as :
>
> user: root
> password: rootroot
Yeah... I just tried your demo. I have to admit I am totally confused. What
*is* it supposed to do? There was literally nothing on any of it's pages!
I am just confused now :(
Kevin
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RE: Is the X03 Jahia using Jetspeed?
Posted by David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>.
Have you tried it yet?
I can't figure what the hell its supposed to do for me.
Its installed on one of my machines here: I will leave this up and running
for 1/2 day or so:
http://63.197.229.131:8080/jahia/servlet/Jahia
Login as :
user: root
password: rootroot
It has a nice install - automatically installs everything.
They distribute Catalina with it - but no source code. IMO -- I do not think
its based on Jetspeed.
> Anyway... I also saw their http://portletsapi.org site.
> Don't know what is
> going on there...
Not much. That site hasn't changed a bit since I last visited several months
ago.
Did you see the bit on 'plml' - look familiar?
I greped for 'plml' in the entire distribution - this is all I found:
<PLML>
<PORTLETGROUP id="6">
<PARAMETER name="page_id">5</PARAMETER>
</PORTLETGROUP>
</PLML>
- David
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> Subject: Is the X03 Jahia using Jetspeed?
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> Hey. Just want to figure out what is going on here. I saw
> Jahia a while ago
> but assumed it was Jetspeed with some more stuff. Now they
> have Jahia which is
> not Open Source (I couldn't find the official license on the
> website but
> Freshmeat says "Free To Use But Restricted".) Are they still
> using Jetspeed?
>
> Anyway... I also saw their http://portletsapi.org site.
> Don't know what is
> going on there...
>
> Any thoughts? Just curious.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> About: JAHIA Portal Server is an easy and affordable Java
> solution for building
> complex and dynamic Web sites. Unlike traditional corporate portal
> solutions, JAHIA provides a comprehensive and out-of-the-box
> platform for
> developing, integrating, delivering, and managing content, Web
> applications, and Web services across intranets, extranets, and the
> Internet. JAHIA Portal Server offers the first democratised
> solution for
> all your Web projects.
>
> Changes: New features include a personalized WebTop/Portal
> interface, built-in Web
> publishing tools, dynamic Web site management functions, standardized
> support for Java Web applications and Web services, a marketplace of
> complementary Java components, J2EE application server
> reliance, enhanced
> security with automatic inheritance mechanisms, and full Web-based
> administration.
>
> Release focus: Major feature enhancements
> License: Free To Use But Restricted
> Project URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/jahia/
>
> Homepage:
http://freshmeat.net/redir/jahia/7442/url_homepage/
Tar/GZ: http://freshmeat.net/redir/jahia/7442/url_tgz/
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burtonator@acm.org )
Cell: 408-910-6145 URL: http://relativity.yi.org ICQ: 73488596
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