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Search Menu
Hi Stas,
What needs to be done to get the "Search" menu to be selected when on the
search page?
Also, I still find myself looking for that Home link in the menu. If
everyone really things that's not necessary then what about making the
"perl.apache.org" at the top of the menu a link?
Regardless, the link for the graphic should be relative to root and not
absolute to perl.apache.org.
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Re: Search Menu
Posted by Per Einar Ellefsen <pe...@skynet.be>.
At 18:22 26.03.2002, Stas Bekman wrote:
>Per Einar Ellefsen wrote:
>>At 03:54 26.03.2002, Stas Bekman wrote:
>>
>>>>>Regardless, the link for the graphic should be relative to root and not
>>>>>absolute to perl.apache.org.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>+1 => todo
>>>
>>>
>>>ah, no, it should point to perl.apache.org.
>>>If someone builds a mirror of the site, this takes users to the master site.
>>
>>Are you sure about that? If someone builds a mirror, the point is exactly
>>that it mirrors everything, so no need to go to perl.apache.org.
>>For example, if our load go very high and we wanted to mirror it because
>>of that, people wanting to go back to the main page wouldn't want to be
>>brought to the apache server.
>>Ok, hypotetically of course :)
>>Anyway, this is how the PHP site does it.
>
>Not everything that PHP does means we should do it. Let's be innovators,
>not followers. Of course common sense applied.
I didn't say that :) mod_perl is better, only the designers who see the PHP
site compared to the current mod_perl site don't understand that :)
No, anyway, I just wanted to reference the PHP site as it has mirrors of
its site worldwide: CPAN too does this:
On http://cpan.skynet.be/modules/index.html , CPAN/ links back to the front
page.
I know we do the same in the Home / part, but there's no reason for the
logo to be any different.
>>>now I'm not sure where 'perl.apache.org' should link. I think of course
>>>to 'perl.apache.org'.
>>
>>I suggest the same as the logo: back to the root.
>
>my common sense says that perl.apache.org cannot link to foo.my.mirror.com.
>
>Both links are not obvious links and shouldn't be. They aren't part of the
>navigation. They just happen to be linked to the home page, they don't have to.
>
>(the perl.apache.org is not linked yet... will do that when Allan gets
>things done, I don't want to mess up his design work with unnecessary
>merge work)
>
>>>In any case you are searching for the 'Home' link only because you are a
>>>site developer. 99.9% of users will never need to go 'Home' since there
>>>is nothing to do there. The menu *is* the home. What do you think?
>>
>>Well, it's usual to have a home link, and it's good to complete the
>>navigation. I think we should have one, or atleast perl.apache.org and
>>the logo pointing back, as it's not a burden, only a plus.
>
>Adding it to the menu doesn't fit into the hierarchy,
>Since the 'Home' is above everything.
>
>Hence it's located on the top (above everything :) of the page, unless you
>are already at Home.
>I believe it's just a matter of getting used to it. If people will
>complain we can change this later.
>
>Sorry for being stubborn. ;)
Actually, you're right. We already have a Home link, in the top hierarchy :)
So I'll forget about that.
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Re: Search Menu
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
Per Einar Ellefsen wrote:
> At 03:54 26.03.2002, Stas Bekman wrote:
>
>>>> Regardless, the link for the graphic should be relative to root and not
>>>> absolute to perl.apache.org.
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 => todo
>>
>>
>> ah, no, it should point to perl.apache.org.
>> If someone builds a mirror of the site, this takes users to the master
>> site.
>
>
> Are you sure about that? If someone builds a mirror, the point is
> exactly that it mirrors everything, so no need to go to perl.apache.org.
> For example, if our load go very high and we wanted to mirror it because
> of that, people wanting to go back to the main page wouldn't want to be
> brought to the apache server.
> Ok, hypotetically of course :)
> Anyway, this is how the PHP site does it.
Not everything that PHP does means we should do it. Let's be innovators,
not followers. Of course common sense applied.
>> now I'm not sure where 'perl.apache.org' should link. I think of course
>> to 'perl.apache.org'.
>
>
> I suggest the same as the logo: back to the root.
my common sense says that perl.apache.org cannot link to foo.my.mirror.com.
Both links are not obvious links and shouldn't be. They aren't part of
the navigation. They just happen to be linked to the home page, they
don't have to.
(the perl.apache.org is not linked yet... will do that when Allan gets
things done, I don't want to mess up his design work with unnecessary
merge work)
>> In any case you are searching for the 'Home' link only because you are
>> a site developer. 99.9% of users will never need to go 'Home' since
>> there is nothing to do there. The menu *is* the home. What do you think?
>
>
> Well, it's usual to have a home link, and it's good to complete the
> navigation. I think we should have one, or atleast perl.apache.org and
> the logo pointing back, as it's not a burden, only a plus.
Adding it to the menu doesn't fit into the hierarchy,
Since the 'Home' is above everything.
Hence it's located on the top (above everything :) of the page, unless
you are already at Home.
I believe it's just a matter of getting used to it. If people will
complain we can change this later.
Sorry for being stubborn. ;)
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Re: Search Menu
Posted by Per Einar Ellefsen <pe...@skynet.be>.
At 03:54 26.03.2002, Stas Bekman wrote:
>>>Regardless, the link for the graphic should be relative to root and not
>>>absolute to perl.apache.org.
>>
>>+1 => todo
>
>ah, no, it should point to perl.apache.org.
>If someone builds a mirror of the site, this takes users to the master site.
Are you sure about that? If someone builds a mirror, the point is exactly
that it mirrors everything, so no need to go to perl.apache.org.
For example, if our load go very high and we wanted to mirror it because of
that, people wanting to go back to the main page wouldn't want to be
brought to the apache server.
Ok, hypotetically of course :)
Anyway, this is how the PHP site does it.
>now I'm not sure where 'perl.apache.org' should link. I think of course
>to 'perl.apache.org'.
I suggest the same as the logo: back to the root.
>In any case you are searching for the 'Home' link only because you are a
>site developer. 99.9% of users will never need to go 'Home' since there is
>nothing to do there. The menu *is* the home. What do you think?
Well, it's usual to have a home link, and it's good to complete the
navigation. I think we should have one, or atleast perl.apache.org and the
logo pointing back, as it's not a burden, only a plus.
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Per Einar Ellefsen
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Re: Search Menu
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
>> Regardless, the link for the graphic should be relative to root and not
>> absolute to perl.apache.org.
>
>
> +1 => todo
ah, no, it should point to perl.apache.org.
If someone builds a mirror of the site, this takes users to the master site.
now I'm not sure where 'perl.apache.org' should link. I think of course
to 'perl.apache.org'.
In any case you are searching for the 'Home' link only because you are a
site developer. 99.9% of users will never need to go 'Home' since there
is nothing to do there. The menu *is* the home. What do you think?
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Re: Search Menu
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
Bill Moseley wrote:
> Hi Stas,
>
> What needs to be done to get the "Search" menu to be selected when on the
> search page?
if we remove it, it's a non-issue :)
> Also, I still find myself looking for that Home link in the menu. If
> everyone really things that's not necessary then what about making the
> "perl.apache.org" at the top of the menu a link?
+1 => todo
> Regardless, the link for the graphic should be relative to root and not
> absolute to perl.apache.org.
+1 => todo
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