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Posted to dev@ariatosca.apache.org by Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com> on 2016/12/05 12:39:05 UTC

Re: [DISCUSS] Website

Hi All,
I would like to follow up on this, and pick up the ball for updating ARIA's
website according to ASF guidelines.

[comments inline]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:43 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:

All,

AriaTosca has been incubating since August and still does not have a
website.  IMHO this is a potential problem, especially around community
building.


One idea may be to use the newly crafted Apache Website Template to build
the website.  You can see the template here:
https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template - its based on jekyll.

The flipside, there's already http://ariatosca.org/ which I'm assuming is
this podling.  It may make sense for this website to become our website,
focused on the underlying Apache community.


You are correct, www.ariatosca.org is the website we brought up for the
ARIA TOSCA Podling,it was brought up before it was accepted as an asf
Incubator project. I would like to make sure we are compliant with ASF
process as well, and we have all needed information there.

Can we use this this as a starting point, add the missing information
expected to be there?
I've highlighted the gaps we should complete, based on the the Podling
webisite guildeline:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html


   - Project Home Page: the primary entry point to the site; contains
   project description, news, invitation to join the project.
   - License Page: usually, the Apache License 2.0
   - Downloads: many projects in incubation will release code, and this
   page describes them and has links to the download pages that redirect to
   Apache Mirror sites.
   - Documentation: this page describes the project documentation,
   including javadoc for Java projects; guides, tutorials, and links to
   external documentation.
   - *Committers: *a list of current committers on the project.
   - *Mailing Lists:* there are several mailing lists that the community
   might be interested in, and this page contains mailto: links that allow
   easy subscription (and unsubscription) to any of them.
   - *FAQ: *frequently asked questions are answered here.
   - Road Map: if the project has a vision of future community or
   development activities, the road map is published here.
   - *Source Code: *links to the browsable source repository and svn
   commands to check out the sources.
   - Coding Standards: the coding standards for submitted code by the
   community, along with a description of how strict the project intends to be.
   - *Issue Tracking: *links to the JIRA or other issue tracking tool,
   possibly including frequently used filters for issue lists.
   - Dependencies: other projects that this project depends on.
   - favicon: the project's icon in a format suitable for a browser's
   address bar. If absent, an Apache Feather will be displayed.




Once we have that ironed our, we need to figure out a solution to getting
the website published.  The current recommended solution is gitpubsub.

It
involves setting up a buildbot to monitor this repo to rebuild the asf-site
branch, then serving that asf-site branch as the actual website.  Its
similar to how github pages work, except you get an apache domain.


Currently www.ARIATOSCA.org is a wordpress app running on AWS. The reason
wordpress was chosen was due the low effort and speed we chould bring up a
graphically designed website, and add content quickly as we go along.

John, Suneel, what would be the recomendation here? Should we migrate to
Jekyll?


Arthur



John

Re: [DISCUSS] Website

Posted by Ran Ziv <ra...@gigaspaces.com>.
do we? (want to use jek)

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
wrote:

> John, Suneel,  We would like to migrate the website to Jekyll, where can I
> find more information on what servers the web pages from the ASF repos? Is
> there anyone that could help with the migration process, setting up needed
> asf infrastructure?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:39 PM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I would like to follow up on this, and pick up the ball for updating
> > ARIA's website according to ASF guidelines.
> >
> > [comments inline]
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:43 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > AriaTosca has been incubating since August and still does not have a
> > website.  IMHO this is a potential problem, especially around community
> > building.
> >
> >
> > One idea may be to use the newly crafted Apache Website Template to build
> > the website.  You can see the template here:
> > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template - its based on jekyll.
> >
> > The flipside, there's already http://ariatosca.org/ which I'm assuming
> is
> > this podling.  It may make sense for this website to become our website,
> > focused on the underlying Apache community.
> >
> >
> > You are correct, www.ariatosca.org is the website we brought up for the
> > ARIA TOSCA Podling,it was brought up before it was accepted as an asf
> > Incubator project. I would like to make sure we are compliant with ASF
> > process as well, and we have all needed information there.
> >
> > Can we use this this as a starting point, add the missing information
> > expected to be there?
> > I've highlighted the gaps we should complete, based on the the Podling
> > webisite guildeline:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >
> >
> >    - Project Home Page: the primary entry point to the site; contains
> >    project description, news, invitation to join the project.
> >    - License Page: usually, the Apache License 2.0
> >    - Downloads: many projects in incubation will release code, and this
> >    page describes them and has links to the download pages that redirect
> to
> >    Apache Mirror sites.
> >    - Documentation: this page describes the project documentation,
> >    including javadoc for Java projects; guides, tutorials, and links to
> >    external documentation.
> >    - *Committers: *a list of current committers on the project.
> >    - *Mailing Lists:* there are several mailing lists that the community
> >    might be interested in, and this page contains mailto: links that
> >    allow easy subscription (and unsubscription) to any of them.
> >    - *FAQ: *frequently asked questions are answered here.
> >    - Road Map: if the project has a vision of future community or
> >    development activities, the road map is published here.
> >    - *Source Code: *links to the browsable source repository and svn
> >    commands to check out the sources.
> >    - Coding Standards: the coding standards for submitted code by the
> >    community, along with a description of how strict the project intends
> to be.
> >    - *Issue Tracking: *links to the JIRA or other issue tracking tool,
> >    possibly including frequently used filters for issue lists.
> >    - Dependencies: other projects that this project depends on.
> >    - favicon: the project's icon in a format suitable for a browser's
> >    address bar. If absent, an Apache Feather will be displayed.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Once we have that ironed our, we need to figure out a solution to getting
> > the website published.  The current recommended solution is gitpubsub.
> >
> > It
> > involves setting up a buildbot to monitor this repo to rebuild the
> asf-site
> > branch, then serving that asf-site branch as the actual website.  Its
> > similar to how github pages work, except you get an apache domain.
> >
> >
> > Currently www.ARIATOSCA.org is a wordpress app running on AWS. The
> reason
> > wordpress was chosen was due the low effort and speed we chould bring up
> a
> > graphically designed website, and add content quickly as we go along.
> >
> > John, Suneel, what would be the recomendation here? Should we migrate to
> > Jekyll?
> >
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Website

Posted by Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>.
Perfect!

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 7:23 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:

> The repo's been created:
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-ariatosca-website.git
> Access it using the normal means.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:33 AM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Sounds good. Thanks.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:31 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, I'll get the reporeq in.  I'll call it
> "incubator-ariatosca-website"
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:23 AM Arthur Berezin <arthur@gigaspaces.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, John.
> > > >
> > > > Let's first create a dedicated repo for the website and start from
> > there.
> > > >
> > > > Arthur
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:02 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Arthur,
> > > > >
> > > > > There's some basic docs up on http://apache.org/dev/#web
> > > > > It lists CMS as the preferred approach.  CMS isn't the preferred
> any
> > > > > longer, so this needs some updating.
> > > > >
> > > > > The recommendation is to use a dedicated git repo for the website
> > code.
> > > > > Once that's in, you would setup a jenkins job that clones the repo,
> > > > builds
> > > > > the site, and then pushes to asf-site.
> > > > >
> > > > > There's a template for a shell script that does this here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/build_site.sh?revision=1776892&view=markup
> > > > >
> > > > > We should be able to keep the discussions on this list, we can
> raise
> > > > infra
> > > > > tickets as needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:50 AM Arthur Berezin <
> arthur@gigaspaces.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > John, Suneel,  We would like to migrate the website to Jekyll,
> > where
> > > > can
> > > > > I
> > > > > > find more information on what servers the web pages from the ASF
> > > repos?
> > > > > Is
> > > > > > there anyone that could help with the migration process, setting
> up
> > > > > needed
> > > > > > asf infrastructure?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:39 PM Arthur Berezin <
> > arthur@gigaspaces.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > I would like to follow up on this, and pick up the ball for
> > > updating
> > > > > > > ARIA's website according to ASF guidelines.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [comments inline]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:43 PM John D. Ament <
> > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > AriaTosca has been incubating since August and still does not
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > > > website.  IMHO this is a potential problem, especially around
> > > > community
> > > > > > > building.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One idea may be to use the newly crafted Apache Website
> Template
> > to
> > > > > build
> > > > > > > the website.  You can see the template here:
> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template - its based
> on
> > > > > jekyll.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The flipside, there's already http://ariatosca.org/ which I'm
> > > > assuming
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > this podling.  It may make sense for this website to become our
> > > > > website,
> > > > > > > focused on the underlying Apache community.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are correct, www.ariatosca.org is the website we brought
> up
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > ARIA TOSCA Podling,it was brought up before it was accepted as
> an
> > > asf
> > > > > > > Incubator project. I would like to make sure we are compliant
> > with
> > > > ASF
> > > > > > > process as well, and we have all needed information there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can we use this this as a starting point, add the missing
> > > information
> > > > > > > expected to be there?
> > > > > > > I've highlighted the gaps we should complete, based on the the
> > > > Podling
> > > > > > > webisite guildeline:
> > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    - Project Home Page: the primary entry point to the site;
> > > contains
> > > > > > >    project description, news, invitation to join the project.
> > > > > > >    - License Page: usually, the Apache License 2.0
> > > > > > >    - Downloads: many projects in incubation will release code,
> > and
> > > > this
> > > > > > >    page describes them and has links to the download pages that
> > > > > redirect
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >    Apache Mirror sites.
> > > > > > >    - Documentation: this page describes the project
> > documentation,
> > > > > > >    including javadoc for Java projects; guides, tutorials, and
> > > links
> > > > to
> > > > > > >    external documentation.
> > > > > > >    - *Committers: *a list of current committers on the project.
> > > > > > >    - *Mailing Lists:* there are several mailing lists that the
> > > > > community
> > > > > > >    might be interested in, and this page contains mailto:
> links
> > > that
> > > > > > >    allow easy subscription (and unsubscription) to any of them.
> > > > > > >    - *FAQ: *frequently asked questions are answered here.
> > > > > > >    - Road Map: if the project has a vision of future community
> or
> > > > > > >    development activities, the road map is published here.
> > > > > > >    - *Source Code: *links to the browsable source repository
> and
> > > svn
> > > > > > >    commands to check out the sources.
> > > > > > >    - Coding Standards: the coding standards for submitted code
> by
> > > the
> > > > > > >    community, along with a description of how strict the
> project
> > > > > intends
> > > > > > to be.
> > > > > > >    - *Issue Tracking: *links to the JIRA or other issue
> tracking
> > > > tool,
> > > > > > >    possibly including frequently used filters for issue lists.
> > > > > > >    - Dependencies: other projects that this project depends on.
> > > > > > >    - favicon: the project's icon in a format suitable for a
> > > browser's
> > > > > > >    address bar. If absent, an Apache Feather will be displayed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Once we have that ironed our, we need to figure out a solution
> to
> > > > > getting
> > > > > > > the website published.  The current recommended solution is
> > > > gitpubsub.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It
> > > > > > > involves setting up a buildbot to monitor this repo to rebuild
> > the
> > > > > > asf-site
> > > > > > > branch, then serving that asf-site branch as the actual
> website.
> > > Its
> > > > > > > similar to how github pages work, except you get an apache
> > domain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently www.ARIATOSCA.org is a wordpress app running on AWS.
> > The
> > > > > > reason
> > > > > > > wordpress was chosen was due the low effort and speed we chould
> > > bring
> > > > > up
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > graphically designed website, and add content quickly as we go
> > > along.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John, Suneel, what would be the recomendation here? Should we
> > > migrate
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > Jekyll?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Arthur
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Website

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
The repo's been created:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-ariatosca-website.git
Access it using the normal means.

John

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:33 AM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
wrote:

> Sounds good. Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:31 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok, I'll get the reporeq in.  I'll call it "incubator-ariatosca-website"
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:23 AM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, John.
> > >
> > > Let's first create a dedicated repo for the website and start from
> there.
> > >
> > > Arthur
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:02 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Arthur,
> > > >
> > > > There's some basic docs up on http://apache.org/dev/#web
> > > > It lists CMS as the preferred approach.  CMS isn't the preferred any
> > > > longer, so this needs some updating.
> > > >
> > > > The recommendation is to use a dedicated git repo for the website
> code.
> > > > Once that's in, you would setup a jenkins job that clones the repo,
> > > builds
> > > > the site, and then pushes to asf-site.
> > > >
> > > > There's a template for a shell script that does this here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/build_site.sh?revision=1776892&view=markup
> > > >
> > > > We should be able to keep the discussions on this list, we can raise
> > > infra
> > > > tickets as needed.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:50 AM Arthur Berezin <arthur@gigaspaces.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > John, Suneel,  We would like to migrate the website to Jekyll,
> where
> > > can
> > > > I
> > > > > find more information on what servers the web pages from the ASF
> > repos?
> > > > Is
> > > > > there anyone that could help with the migration process, setting up
> > > > needed
> > > > > asf infrastructure?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:39 PM Arthur Berezin <
> arthur@gigaspaces.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > I would like to follow up on this, and pick up the ball for
> > updating
> > > > > > ARIA's website according to ASF guidelines.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [comments inline]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:43 PM John D. Ament <
> > johndament@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AriaTosca has been incubating since August and still does not
> have
> > a
> > > > > > website.  IMHO this is a potential problem, especially around
> > > community
> > > > > > building.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One idea may be to use the newly crafted Apache Website Template
> to
> > > > build
> > > > > > the website.  You can see the template here:
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template - its based on
> > > > jekyll.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The flipside, there's already http://ariatosca.org/ which I'm
> > > assuming
> > > > > is
> > > > > > this podling.  It may make sense for this website to become our
> > > > website,
> > > > > > focused on the underlying Apache community.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are correct, www.ariatosca.org is the website we brought up
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > ARIA TOSCA Podling,it was brought up before it was accepted as an
> > asf
> > > > > > Incubator project. I would like to make sure we are compliant
> with
> > > ASF
> > > > > > process as well, and we have all needed information there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can we use this this as a starting point, add the missing
> > information
> > > > > > expected to be there?
> > > > > > I've highlighted the gaps we should complete, based on the the
> > > Podling
> > > > > > webisite guildeline:
> > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    - Project Home Page: the primary entry point to the site;
> > contains
> > > > > >    project description, news, invitation to join the project.
> > > > > >    - License Page: usually, the Apache License 2.0
> > > > > >    - Downloads: many projects in incubation will release code,
> and
> > > this
> > > > > >    page describes them and has links to the download pages that
> > > > redirect
> > > > > to
> > > > > >    Apache Mirror sites.
> > > > > >    - Documentation: this page describes the project
> documentation,
> > > > > >    including javadoc for Java projects; guides, tutorials, and
> > links
> > > to
> > > > > >    external documentation.
> > > > > >    - *Committers: *a list of current committers on the project.
> > > > > >    - *Mailing Lists:* there are several mailing lists that the
> > > > community
> > > > > >    might be interested in, and this page contains mailto: links
> > that
> > > > > >    allow easy subscription (and unsubscription) to any of them.
> > > > > >    - *FAQ: *frequently asked questions are answered here.
> > > > > >    - Road Map: if the project has a vision of future community or
> > > > > >    development activities, the road map is published here.
> > > > > >    - *Source Code: *links to the browsable source repository and
> > svn
> > > > > >    commands to check out the sources.
> > > > > >    - Coding Standards: the coding standards for submitted code by
> > the
> > > > > >    community, along with a description of how strict the project
> > > > intends
> > > > > to be.
> > > > > >    - *Issue Tracking: *links to the JIRA or other issue tracking
> > > tool,
> > > > > >    possibly including frequently used filters for issue lists.
> > > > > >    - Dependencies: other projects that this project depends on.
> > > > > >    - favicon: the project's icon in a format suitable for a
> > browser's
> > > > > >    address bar. If absent, an Apache Feather will be displayed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Once we have that ironed our, we need to figure out a solution to
> > > > getting
> > > > > > the website published.  The current recommended solution is
> > > gitpubsub.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It
> > > > > > involves setting up a buildbot to monitor this repo to rebuild
> the
> > > > > asf-site
> > > > > > branch, then serving that asf-site branch as the actual website.
> > Its
> > > > > > similar to how github pages work, except you get an apache
> domain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently www.ARIATOSCA.org is a wordpress app running on AWS.
> The
> > > > > reason
> > > > > > wordpress was chosen was due the low effort and speed we chould
> > bring
> > > > up
> > > > > a
> > > > > > graphically designed website, and add content quickly as we go
> > along.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John, Suneel, what would be the recomendation here? Should we
> > migrate
> > > > to
> > > > > > Jekyll?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Arthur
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Website

Posted by Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>.
Sounds good. Thanks.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:31 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:

> Ok, I'll get the reporeq in.  I'll call it "incubator-ariatosca-website"
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:23 AM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, John.
> >
> > Let's first create a dedicated repo for the website and start from there.
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:02 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Arthur,
> > >
> > > There's some basic docs up on http://apache.org/dev/#web
> > > It lists CMS as the preferred approach.  CMS isn't the preferred any
> > > longer, so this needs some updating.
> > >
> > > The recommendation is to use a dedicated git repo for the website code.
> > > Once that's in, you would setup a jenkins job that clones the repo,
> > builds
> > > the site, and then pushes to asf-site.
> > >
> > > There's a template for a shell script that does this here:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/build_site.sh?revision=1776892&view=markup
> > >
> > > We should be able to keep the discussions on this list, we can raise
> > infra
> > > tickets as needed.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:50 AM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > John, Suneel,  We would like to migrate the website to Jekyll, where
> > can
> > > I
> > > > find more information on what servers the web pages from the ASF
> repos?
> > > Is
> > > > there anyone that could help with the migration process, setting up
> > > needed
> > > > asf infrastructure?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:39 PM Arthur Berezin <arthur@gigaspaces.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > I would like to follow up on this, and pick up the ball for
> updating
> > > > > ARIA's website according to ASF guidelines.
> > > > >
> > > > > [comments inline]
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:43 PM John D. Ament <
> johndament@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > All,
> > > > >
> > > > > AriaTosca has been incubating since August and still does not have
> a
> > > > > website.  IMHO this is a potential problem, especially around
> > community
> > > > > building.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One idea may be to use the newly crafted Apache Website Template to
> > > build
> > > > > the website.  You can see the template here:
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template - its based on
> > > jekyll.
> > > > >
> > > > > The flipside, there's already http://ariatosca.org/ which I'm
> > assuming
> > > > is
> > > > > this podling.  It may make sense for this website to become our
> > > website,
> > > > > focused on the underlying Apache community.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You are correct, www.ariatosca.org is the website we brought up
> for
> > > the
> > > > > ARIA TOSCA Podling,it was brought up before it was accepted as an
> asf
> > > > > Incubator project. I would like to make sure we are compliant with
> > ASF
> > > > > process as well, and we have all needed information there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can we use this this as a starting point, add the missing
> information
> > > > > expected to be there?
> > > > > I've highlighted the gaps we should complete, based on the the
> > Podling
> > > > > webisite guildeline:
> > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >    - Project Home Page: the primary entry point to the site;
> contains
> > > > >    project description, news, invitation to join the project.
> > > > >    - License Page: usually, the Apache License 2.0
> > > > >    - Downloads: many projects in incubation will release code, and
> > this
> > > > >    page describes them and has links to the download pages that
> > > redirect
> > > > to
> > > > >    Apache Mirror sites.
> > > > >    - Documentation: this page describes the project documentation,
> > > > >    including javadoc for Java projects; guides, tutorials, and
> links
> > to
> > > > >    external documentation.
> > > > >    - *Committers: *a list of current committers on the project.
> > > > >    - *Mailing Lists:* there are several mailing lists that the
> > > community
> > > > >    might be interested in, and this page contains mailto: links
> that
> > > > >    allow easy subscription (and unsubscription) to any of them.
> > > > >    - *FAQ: *frequently asked questions are answered here.
> > > > >    - Road Map: if the project has a vision of future community or
> > > > >    development activities, the road map is published here.
> > > > >    - *Source Code: *links to the browsable source repository and
> svn
> > > > >    commands to check out the sources.
> > > > >    - Coding Standards: the coding standards for submitted code by
> the
> > > > >    community, along with a description of how strict the project
> > > intends
> > > > to be.
> > > > >    - *Issue Tracking: *links to the JIRA or other issue tracking
> > tool,
> > > > >    possibly including frequently used filters for issue lists.
> > > > >    - Dependencies: other projects that this project depends on.
> > > > >    - favicon: the project's icon in a format suitable for a
> browser's
> > > > >    address bar. If absent, an Apache Feather will be displayed.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Once we have that ironed our, we need to figure out a solution to
> > > getting
> > > > > the website published.  The current recommended solution is
> > gitpubsub.
> > > > >
> > > > > It
> > > > > involves setting up a buildbot to monitor this repo to rebuild the
> > > > asf-site
> > > > > branch, then serving that asf-site branch as the actual website.
> Its
> > > > > similar to how github pages work, except you get an apache domain.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently www.ARIATOSCA.org is a wordpress app running on AWS. The
> > > > reason
> > > > > wordpress was chosen was due the low effort and speed we chould
> bring
> > > up
> > > > a
> > > > > graphically designed website, and add content quickly as we go
> along.
> > > > >
> > > > > John, Suneel, what would be the recomendation here? Should we
> migrate
> > > to
> > > > > Jekyll?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Arthur
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Website

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Ok, I'll get the reporeq in.  I'll call it "incubator-ariatosca-website"

John

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:23 AM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
wrote:

> Thanks, John.
>
> Let's first create a dedicated repo for the website and start from there.
>
> Arthur
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:02 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Arthur,
> >
> > There's some basic docs up on http://apache.org/dev/#web
> > It lists CMS as the preferred approach.  CMS isn't the preferred any
> > longer, so this needs some updating.
> >
> > The recommendation is to use a dedicated git repo for the website code.
> > Once that's in, you would setup a jenkins job that clones the repo,
> builds
> > the site, and then pushes to asf-site.
> >
> > There's a template for a shell script that does this here:
> >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/build_site.sh?revision=1776892&view=markup
> >
> > We should be able to keep the discussions on this list, we can raise
> infra
> > tickets as needed.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:50 AM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > John, Suneel,  We would like to migrate the website to Jekyll, where
> can
> > I
> > > find more information on what servers the web pages from the ASF repos?
> > Is
> > > there anyone that could help with the migration process, setting up
> > needed
> > > asf infrastructure?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:39 PM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > I would like to follow up on this, and pick up the ball for updating
> > > > ARIA's website according to ASF guidelines.
> > > >
> > > > [comments inline]
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:43 PM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > AriaTosca has been incubating since August and still does not have a
> > > > website.  IMHO this is a potential problem, especially around
> community
> > > > building.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One idea may be to use the newly crafted Apache Website Template to
> > build
> > > > the website.  You can see the template here:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template - its based on
> > jekyll.
> > > >
> > > > The flipside, there's already http://ariatosca.org/ which I'm
> assuming
> > > is
> > > > this podling.  It may make sense for this website to become our
> > website,
> > > > focused on the underlying Apache community.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You are correct, www.ariatosca.org is the website we brought up for
> > the
> > > > ARIA TOSCA Podling,it was brought up before it was accepted as an asf
> > > > Incubator project. I would like to make sure we are compliant with
> ASF
> > > > process as well, and we have all needed information there.
> > > >
> > > > Can we use this this as a starting point, add the missing information
> > > > expected to be there?
> > > > I've highlighted the gaps we should complete, based on the the
> Podling
> > > > webisite guildeline:
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    - Project Home Page: the primary entry point to the site; contains
> > > >    project description, news, invitation to join the project.
> > > >    - License Page: usually, the Apache License 2.0
> > > >    - Downloads: many projects in incubation will release code, and
> this
> > > >    page describes them and has links to the download pages that
> > redirect
> > > to
> > > >    Apache Mirror sites.
> > > >    - Documentation: this page describes the project documentation,
> > > >    including javadoc for Java projects; guides, tutorials, and links
> to
> > > >    external documentation.
> > > >    - *Committers: *a list of current committers on the project.
> > > >    - *Mailing Lists:* there are several mailing lists that the
> > community
> > > >    might be interested in, and this page contains mailto: links that
> > > >    allow easy subscription (and unsubscription) to any of them.
> > > >    - *FAQ: *frequently asked questions are answered here.
> > > >    - Road Map: if the project has a vision of future community or
> > > >    development activities, the road map is published here.
> > > >    - *Source Code: *links to the browsable source repository and svn
> > > >    commands to check out the sources.
> > > >    - Coding Standards: the coding standards for submitted code by the
> > > >    community, along with a description of how strict the project
> > intends
> > > to be.
> > > >    - *Issue Tracking: *links to the JIRA or other issue tracking
> tool,
> > > >    possibly including frequently used filters for issue lists.
> > > >    - Dependencies: other projects that this project depends on.
> > > >    - favicon: the project's icon in a format suitable for a browser's
> > > >    address bar. If absent, an Apache Feather will be displayed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Once we have that ironed our, we need to figure out a solution to
> > getting
> > > > the website published.  The current recommended solution is
> gitpubsub.
> > > >
> > > > It
> > > > involves setting up a buildbot to monitor this repo to rebuild the
> > > asf-site
> > > > branch, then serving that asf-site branch as the actual website.  Its
> > > > similar to how github pages work, except you get an apache domain.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Currently www.ARIATOSCA.org is a wordpress app running on AWS. The
> > > reason
> > > > wordpress was chosen was due the low effort and speed we chould bring
> > up
> > > a
> > > > graphically designed website, and add content quickly as we go along.
> > > >
> > > > John, Suneel, what would be the recomendation here? Should we migrate
> > to
> > > > Jekyll?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Arthur
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Website

Posted by Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>.
Thanks, John.

Let's first create a dedicated repo for the website and start from there.

Arthur

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:02 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> There's some basic docs up on http://apache.org/dev/#web
> It lists CMS as the preferred approach.  CMS isn't the preferred any
> longer, so this needs some updating.
>
> The recommendation is to use a dedicated git repo for the website code.
> Once that's in, you would setup a jenkins job that clones the repo, builds
> the site, and then pushes to asf-site.
>
> There's a template for a shell script that does this here:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/build_site.sh?revision=1776892&view=markup
>
> We should be able to keep the discussions on this list, we can raise infra
> tickets as needed.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:50 AM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
> wrote:
>
> > John, Suneel,  We would like to migrate the website to Jekyll, where can
> I
> > find more information on what servers the web pages from the ASF repos?
> Is
> > there anyone that could help with the migration process, setting up
> needed
> > asf infrastructure?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:39 PM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > > I would like to follow up on this, and pick up the ball for updating
> > > ARIA's website according to ASF guidelines.
> > >
> > > [comments inline]
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:43 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > AriaTosca has been incubating since August and still does not have a
> > > website.  IMHO this is a potential problem, especially around community
> > > building.
> > >
> > >
> > > One idea may be to use the newly crafted Apache Website Template to
> build
> > > the website.  You can see the template here:
> > > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template - its based on
> jekyll.
> > >
> > > The flipside, there's already http://ariatosca.org/ which I'm assuming
> > is
> > > this podling.  It may make sense for this website to become our
> website,
> > > focused on the underlying Apache community.
> > >
> > >
> > > You are correct, www.ariatosca.org is the website we brought up for
> the
> > > ARIA TOSCA Podling,it was brought up before it was accepted as an asf
> > > Incubator project. I would like to make sure we are compliant with ASF
> > > process as well, and we have all needed information there.
> > >
> > > Can we use this this as a starting point, add the missing information
> > > expected to be there?
> > > I've highlighted the gaps we should complete, based on the the Podling
> > > webisite guildeline:
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > >
> > >
> > >    - Project Home Page: the primary entry point to the site; contains
> > >    project description, news, invitation to join the project.
> > >    - License Page: usually, the Apache License 2.0
> > >    - Downloads: many projects in incubation will release code, and this
> > >    page describes them and has links to the download pages that
> redirect
> > to
> > >    Apache Mirror sites.
> > >    - Documentation: this page describes the project documentation,
> > >    including javadoc for Java projects; guides, tutorials, and links to
> > >    external documentation.
> > >    - *Committers: *a list of current committers on the project.
> > >    - *Mailing Lists:* there are several mailing lists that the
> community
> > >    might be interested in, and this page contains mailto: links that
> > >    allow easy subscription (and unsubscription) to any of them.
> > >    - *FAQ: *frequently asked questions are answered here.
> > >    - Road Map: if the project has a vision of future community or
> > >    development activities, the road map is published here.
> > >    - *Source Code: *links to the browsable source repository and svn
> > >    commands to check out the sources.
> > >    - Coding Standards: the coding standards for submitted code by the
> > >    community, along with a description of how strict the project
> intends
> > to be.
> > >    - *Issue Tracking: *links to the JIRA or other issue tracking tool,
> > >    possibly including frequently used filters for issue lists.
> > >    - Dependencies: other projects that this project depends on.
> > >    - favicon: the project's icon in a format suitable for a browser's
> > >    address bar. If absent, an Apache Feather will be displayed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Once we have that ironed our, we need to figure out a solution to
> getting
> > > the website published.  The current recommended solution is gitpubsub.
> > >
> > > It
> > > involves setting up a buildbot to monitor this repo to rebuild the
> > asf-site
> > > branch, then serving that asf-site branch as the actual website.  Its
> > > similar to how github pages work, except you get an apache domain.
> > >
> > >
> > > Currently www.ARIATOSCA.org is a wordpress app running on AWS. The
> > reason
> > > wordpress was chosen was due the low effort and speed we chould bring
> up
> > a
> > > graphically designed website, and add content quickly as we go along.
> > >
> > > John, Suneel, what would be the recomendation here? Should we migrate
> to
> > > Jekyll?
> > >
> > >
> > > Arthur
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Website

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Arthur,

There's some basic docs up on http://apache.org/dev/#web
It lists CMS as the preferred approach.  CMS isn't the preferred any
longer, so this needs some updating.

The recommendation is to use a dedicated git repo for the website code.
Once that's in, you would setup a jenkins job that clones the repo, builds
the site, and then pushes to asf-site.

There's a template for a shell script that does this here:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/build_site.sh?revision=1776892&view=markup

We should be able to keep the discussions on this list, we can raise infra
tickets as needed.

John

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 7:50 AM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com> wrote:

> John, Suneel,  We would like to migrate the website to Jekyll, where can I
> find more information on what servers the web pages from the ASF repos? Is
> there anyone that could help with the migration process, setting up needed
> asf infrastructure?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:39 PM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I would like to follow up on this, and pick up the ball for updating
> > ARIA's website according to ASF guidelines.
> >
> > [comments inline]
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:43 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > AriaTosca has been incubating since August and still does not have a
> > website.  IMHO this is a potential problem, especially around community
> > building.
> >
> >
> > One idea may be to use the newly crafted Apache Website Template to build
> > the website.  You can see the template here:
> > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template - its based on jekyll.
> >
> > The flipside, there's already http://ariatosca.org/ which I'm assuming
> is
> > this podling.  It may make sense for this website to become our website,
> > focused on the underlying Apache community.
> >
> >
> > You are correct, www.ariatosca.org is the website we brought up for the
> > ARIA TOSCA Podling,it was brought up before it was accepted as an asf
> > Incubator project. I would like to make sure we are compliant with ASF
> > process as well, and we have all needed information there.
> >
> > Can we use this this as a starting point, add the missing information
> > expected to be there?
> > I've highlighted the gaps we should complete, based on the the Podling
> > webisite guildeline:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >
> >
> >    - Project Home Page: the primary entry point to the site; contains
> >    project description, news, invitation to join the project.
> >    - License Page: usually, the Apache License 2.0
> >    - Downloads: many projects in incubation will release code, and this
> >    page describes them and has links to the download pages that redirect
> to
> >    Apache Mirror sites.
> >    - Documentation: this page describes the project documentation,
> >    including javadoc for Java projects; guides, tutorials, and links to
> >    external documentation.
> >    - *Committers: *a list of current committers on the project.
> >    - *Mailing Lists:* there are several mailing lists that the community
> >    might be interested in, and this page contains mailto: links that
> >    allow easy subscription (and unsubscription) to any of them.
> >    - *FAQ: *frequently asked questions are answered here.
> >    - Road Map: if the project has a vision of future community or
> >    development activities, the road map is published here.
> >    - *Source Code: *links to the browsable source repository and svn
> >    commands to check out the sources.
> >    - Coding Standards: the coding standards for submitted code by the
> >    community, along with a description of how strict the project intends
> to be.
> >    - *Issue Tracking: *links to the JIRA or other issue tracking tool,
> >    possibly including frequently used filters for issue lists.
> >    - Dependencies: other projects that this project depends on.
> >    - favicon: the project's icon in a format suitable for a browser's
> >    address bar. If absent, an Apache Feather will be displayed.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Once we have that ironed our, we need to figure out a solution to getting
> > the website published.  The current recommended solution is gitpubsub.
> >
> > It
> > involves setting up a buildbot to monitor this repo to rebuild the
> asf-site
> > branch, then serving that asf-site branch as the actual website.  Its
> > similar to how github pages work, except you get an apache domain.
> >
> >
> > Currently www.ARIATOSCA.org is a wordpress app running on AWS. The
> reason
> > wordpress was chosen was due the low effort and speed we chould bring up
> a
> > graphically designed website, and add content quickly as we go along.
> >
> > John, Suneel, what would be the recomendation here? Should we migrate to
> > Jekyll?
> >
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Website

Posted by Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com>.
John, Suneel,  We would like to migrate the website to Jekyll, where can I
find more information on what servers the web pages from the ASF repos? Is
there anyone that could help with the migration process, setting up needed
asf infrastructure?


On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:39 PM Arthur Berezin <ar...@gigaspaces.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
> I would like to follow up on this, and pick up the ball for updating
> ARIA's website according to ASF guidelines.
>
> [comments inline]
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:43 PM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> AriaTosca has been incubating since August and still does not have a
> website.  IMHO this is a potential problem, especially around community
> building.
>
>
> One idea may be to use the newly crafted Apache Website Template to build
> the website.  You can see the template here:
> https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template - its based on jekyll.
>
> The flipside, there's already http://ariatosca.org/ which I'm assuming is
> this podling.  It may make sense for this website to become our website,
> focused on the underlying Apache community.
>
>
> You are correct, www.ariatosca.org is the website we brought up for the
> ARIA TOSCA Podling,it was brought up before it was accepted as an asf
> Incubator project. I would like to make sure we are compliant with ASF
> process as well, and we have all needed information there.
>
> Can we use this this as a starting point, add the missing information
> expected to be there?
> I've highlighted the gaps we should complete, based on the the Podling
> webisite guildeline:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>
>
>    - Project Home Page: the primary entry point to the site; contains
>    project description, news, invitation to join the project.
>    - License Page: usually, the Apache License 2.0
>    - Downloads: many projects in incubation will release code, and this
>    page describes them and has links to the download pages that redirect to
>    Apache Mirror sites.
>    - Documentation: this page describes the project documentation,
>    including javadoc for Java projects; guides, tutorials, and links to
>    external documentation.
>    - *Committers: *a list of current committers on the project.
>    - *Mailing Lists:* there are several mailing lists that the community
>    might be interested in, and this page contains mailto: links that
>    allow easy subscription (and unsubscription) to any of them.
>    - *FAQ: *frequently asked questions are answered here.
>    - Road Map: if the project has a vision of future community or
>    development activities, the road map is published here.
>    - *Source Code: *links to the browsable source repository and svn
>    commands to check out the sources.
>    - Coding Standards: the coding standards for submitted code by the
>    community, along with a description of how strict the project intends to be.
>    - *Issue Tracking: *links to the JIRA or other issue tracking tool,
>    possibly including frequently used filters for issue lists.
>    - Dependencies: other projects that this project depends on.
>    - favicon: the project's icon in a format suitable for a browser's
>    address bar. If absent, an Apache Feather will be displayed.
>
>
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>
> Once we have that ironed our, we need to figure out a solution to getting
> the website published.  The current recommended solution is gitpubsub.
>
> It
> involves setting up a buildbot to monitor this repo to rebuild the asf-site
> branch, then serving that asf-site branch as the actual website.  Its
> similar to how github pages work, except you get an apache domain.
>
>
> Currently www.ARIATOSCA.org is a wordpress app running on AWS. The reason
> wordpress was chosen was due the low effort and speed we chould bring up a
> graphically designed website, and add content quickly as we go along.
>
> John, Suneel, what would be the recomendation here? Should we migrate to
> Jekyll?
>
>
> Arthur
>
>
>
> John
>
>