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Posted to dev@stanbol.apache.org by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> on 2018/10/07 16:47:40 UTC
Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Hi!
a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
around the level of PMC activity in the project:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22 PMC
members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to consider
expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
some of the project's active users.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
Hi Furkan,
Glad to hear that. Is there any specific open task that you want to start
addressing or any proposal for the backlog?
Cheers,
Rafa
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 5:12 AM Muhammad Sajjad <mu...@kics.edu.pk>
wrote:
> yes of course.
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:26 AM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm *Furkan KAMACI* who is a person loves open source, Java, and Machine
> > Learning. I'm Committer and PMC member of Apache Gora, Apache Nutch, and
> > Committer of Apache ManifoldCF and also a member of The Apache Software
> > Foundation.
> >
> > I've developed software and managed teams which creates products on
> > analyzing Petabytes of data to run efficient Machine Learning and Search
> > algorithms on Big Data. I have a work experience +10 years including
> > companies as like Alcatel-Lucent/Nokia and has an academical background.
> > Currently, I have a company named as LAGOM which works on Big Data and
> > Machine Learning and contributes to open source projects.
> >
> > I've contributed to many ASF projects throughout the years including
> Gora,
> > ManifoldCF, Nutch, Solr/Lucene and of course *Stanbol*. I was a GSoC
> > student for Stanbol 4 years ago but I couldn't deep into dive with
> Stanbol
> > due to my health problems.
> >
> > I would like to take responsibility and contribute to *Apache Stanbol*
> as a
> > Committer/PMC.
> >
> > PS: My Apache and GitHub id is *kamaci*.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Furkan KAMACI
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 5:50 AM Phillip Rhodes <
> motley.crue.fan@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would
> > > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had
> > > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
> > > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to contribute.
> > > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but I
> > > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start
> > > contributing to Stanbol.
> > >
> > >
> > > Phil
> > > ~~~
> > > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
> > > <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
> > > >
> > > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since
> 2014.
> > > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the project
> for
> > > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my
> > contributions
> > > > have been very low since.
> > > >
> > > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
> > > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the
> bugs
> > > and
> > > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active again,
> and
> > > see
> > > > the senior developers back on the list :)
> > > >
> > > > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Dileepa
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Roman,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we
> have
> > > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months.
> > > There
> > > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active"
> > > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we would
> > be
> > > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so
> on
> > > but,
> > > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the
> > > backlog,
> > > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think
> this
> > > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the
> > same
> > > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in taking
> > the
> > > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this
> situation
> > > has
> > > > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists
> is
> > > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is time
> > to
> > > > > archive the project.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project into
> > the
> > > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest opinion
> > it
> > > is
> > > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend
> the
> > > > > community with new members interested in further improvements and
> > uses
> > > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
> > > > >
> > > > > Warm regards from Seville
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> > > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> > > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> > > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> > > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> > > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22
> > PMC
> > > > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> > > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to
> > consider
> > > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> > > > > > > some of the project's active users.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Again!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread
> > so
> > > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at
> > least
> > > 3
> > > > > > reasonably active PMC
> > > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end
> up
> > > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if
> > > > > > there's enough enthusiastic
> > > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into
> "rebooting"
> > > > > > the PMC that way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as
> > an
> > > > > > active Apache project -- please
> > > > > > reply to this thread.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Roman.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Muhammad Sajjad <mu...@kics.edu.pk>.
yes of course.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:26 AM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm *Furkan KAMACI* who is a person loves open source, Java, and Machine
> Learning. I'm Committer and PMC member of Apache Gora, Apache Nutch, and
> Committer of Apache ManifoldCF and also a member of The Apache Software
> Foundation.
>
> I've developed software and managed teams which creates products on
> analyzing Petabytes of data to run efficient Machine Learning and Search
> algorithms on Big Data. I have a work experience +10 years including
> companies as like Alcatel-Lucent/Nokia and has an academical background.
> Currently, I have a company named as LAGOM which works on Big Data and
> Machine Learning and contributes to open source projects.
>
> I've contributed to many ASF projects throughout the years including Gora,
> ManifoldCF, Nutch, Solr/Lucene and of course *Stanbol*. I was a GSoC
> student for Stanbol 4 years ago but I couldn't deep into dive with Stanbol
> due to my health problems.
>
> I would like to take responsibility and contribute to *Apache Stanbol* as a
> Committer/PMC.
>
> PS: My Apache and GitHub id is *kamaci*.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 5:50 AM Phillip Rhodes <mo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would
> > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had
> > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
> > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to contribute.
> > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but I
> > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start
> > contributing to Stanbol.
> >
> >
> > Phil
> > ~~~
> > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
> > <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
> > >
> > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since 2014.
> > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the project for
> > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my
> contributions
> > > have been very low since.
> > >
> > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
> > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the bugs
> > and
> > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active again, and
> > see
> > > the senior developers back on the list :)
> > >
> > > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dileepa
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Roman,
> > > >
> > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we have
> > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months.
> > There
> > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active"
> > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we would
> be
> > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so on
> > but,
> > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the
> > backlog,
> > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think this
> > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the
> same
> > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in taking
> the
> > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this situation
> > has
> > > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists is
> > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is time
> to
> > > > archive the project.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project into
> the
> > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest opinion
> it
> > is
> > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend the
> > > > community with new members interested in further improvements and
> uses
> > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
> > > >
> > > > Warm regards from Seville
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
> > > > > >
> > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22
> PMC
> > > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to
> consider
> > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> > > > > > some of the project's active users.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Again!
> > > > >
> > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread
> so
> > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at
> least
> > 3
> > > > > reasonably active PMC
> > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end up
> > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if
> > > > > there's enough enthusiastic
> > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into "rebooting"
> > > > > the PMC that way.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as
> an
> > > > > active Apache project -- please
> > > > > reply to this thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Roman.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>.
Hi All,
I'm *Furkan KAMACI* who is a person loves open source, Java, and Machine
Learning. I'm Committer and PMC member of Apache Gora, Apache Nutch, and
Committer of Apache ManifoldCF and also a member of The Apache Software
Foundation.
I've developed software and managed teams which creates products on
analyzing Petabytes of data to run efficient Machine Learning and Search
algorithms on Big Data. I have a work experience +10 years including
companies as like Alcatel-Lucent/Nokia and has an academical background.
Currently, I have a company named as LAGOM which works on Big Data and
Machine Learning and contributes to open source projects.
I've contributed to many ASF projects throughout the years including Gora,
ManifoldCF, Nutch, Solr/Lucene and of course *Stanbol*. I was a GSoC
student for Stanbol 4 years ago but I couldn't deep into dive with Stanbol
due to my health problems.
I would like to take responsibility and contribute to *Apache Stanbol* as a
Committer/PMC.
PS: My Apache and GitHub id is *kamaci*.
Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 5:50 AM Phillip Rhodes <mo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would
> like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had
> much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
> committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to contribute.
> It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but I
> can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start
> contributing to Stanbol.
>
>
> Phil
> ~~~
> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
> <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
> >
> > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since 2014.
> > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the project for
> > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my contributions
> > have been very low since.
> >
> > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
> > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the bugs
> and
> > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active again, and
> see
> > the senior developers back on the list :)
> >
> > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dileepa
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Roman,
> > >
> > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we have
> > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months.
> There
> > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active"
> > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we would be
> > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so on
> but,
> > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the
> backlog,
> > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think this
> > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the same
> > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in taking the
> > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this situation
> has
> > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists is
> > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is time to
> > > archive the project.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project into the
> > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest opinion it
> is
> > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend the
> > > community with new members interested in further improvements and uses
> > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
> > >
> > > Warm regards from Seville
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
> > > > >
> > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22 PMC
> > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to consider
> > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> > > > > some of the project's active users.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Again!
> > > >
> > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread so
> > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
> > > >
> > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at least
> 3
> > > > reasonably active PMC
> > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end up
> > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
> > > >
> > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if
> > > > there's enough enthusiastic
> > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into "rebooting"
> > > > the PMC that way.
> > > >
> > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as an
> > > > active Apache project -- please
> > > > reply to this thread.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Roman.
> > > >
> > >
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Antonio David Pérez Morales <ad...@gmail.com>.
Hello Stanbolers
I've been following the thread and also discussing with Rafa some options
we have here to keep Stanbol alive and introduce more functionality and
improvements.
As you may notice, I'm also interested in keeping up contributing to the
project (unfortunately I stopped using it some years ago and due to that I
could not continue adding more contributions and improvements) and I have
some old notes with ideas for improvements, additions, features, etc. I
will re-check my notes and put some of them here so that we can all
evaluate which of them make sense, prioritize and start working on them if
they are good and interesting enough to be included.
Thanks
Regards
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
Hi Furkan,
I have merged your PRs. Thanks again
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:26 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Furkan,
>
> Sorry I didn't. This weekend is probably a good time for me. Will review
> and eventually merge them before next Monday
>
> Thanks!
> El El jue, 29 nov 2018 a las 17:48, Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
> escribió:
>
>> Hi Rafa,
>>
>> Did you have a chance to check my PRs?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Furkan KAMACI
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:51 AM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Furkan,
>>>
>>> Thanks! I will take a look ASAP in order to get them merged
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Rafa
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:40 PM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I've just created STANBOL-1473, STANBOL-1474, STANBOL-1475 and
>>> STANBOL-1476
>>> > and created PRs for them!
>>> >
>>> > Kind Regards,
>>> > Furkan KAMACI
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi Rafa & Roman,
>>> > >
>>> > > I've already contributed to Apache Stanbol with my 15 issues. You can
>>> > > check them from here:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Stanbol%20AND%20reporter%20%3D%20kamaci%20
>>> > >
>>> > > @Rafa I'll check backlog and also file new issues to keep my
>>> > contribution.
>>> > >
>>> > > @Roman I believe that Apache Stanbol has a great future and I'll try
>>> to
>>> > > contribute its source code and improve its community as much as I
>>> can.
>>> > >
>>> > > Kind Regards,
>>> > > Furkan KAMACI
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:37 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Hi Everyone,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> top-posting here to summarize a month worth of this thread:
>>> > >> 1. it sounds like there's still interest in keeping Stanbol alive
>>> > >> 2. it sounds like at least Phillip Rhodes, Dileepa Jayakody and
>>> > >> Rafa Haro are enthusiastic enough about Stanbol's future
>>> > >> and are willing to invest some amount of their time into it.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Hence, I'd like to propose that we start a formal PMC vote on adding
>>> > >> these
>>> > >> individuals to the PMC in the hope that this will help to
>>> revitalize the
>>> > >> project.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> If there are no objections -- I'm going to start a PMC vote thread
>>> over
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> weekend.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks,
>>> > >> Roman.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On 2018/10/25 02:50:03, Phillip Rhodes <mo...@gmail.com>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and
>>> would
>>> > >> > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't
>>> had
>>> > >> > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
>>> > >> > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to
>>> contribute.
>>> > >> > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline,
>>> but I
>>> > >> > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to
>>> start
>>> > >> > contributing to Stanbol.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Phil
>>> > >> > ~~~
>>> > >> > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
>>> > >> > <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project
>>> since
>>> > >> 2014.
>>> > >> > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the
>>> project
>>> > >> for
>>> > >> > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my
>>> > >> contributions
>>> > >> > > have been very low since.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
>>> > >> > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing
>>> the
>>> > >> bugs and
>>> > >> > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active
>>> again,
>>> > >> and see
>>> > >> > > the senior developers back on the list :)
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Thanks,
>>> > >> > > Dileepa
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > > Hi Roman,
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think
>>> we
>>> > have
>>> > >> > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few
>>> months.
>>> > >> There
>>> > >> > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3
>>> "active"
>>> > >> > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we
>>> > would
>>> > >> be
>>> > >> > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists
>>> and so
>>> > >> on but,
>>> > >> > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working
>>> on the
>>> > >> backlog,
>>> > >> > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I
>>> think
>>> > >> this
>>> > >> > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within
>>> the
>>> > >> same
>>> > >> > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in
>>> > taking
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this
>>> > >> situation has
>>> > >> > > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing
>>> lists
>>> > >> is
>>> > >> > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is
>>> > time
>>> > >> to
>>> > >> > > > archive the project.
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project
>>> > into
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest
>>> > opinion
>>> > >> it is
>>> > >> > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or
>>> extend
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> > > > community with new members interested in further improvements
>>> and
>>> > >> uses
>>> > >> > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > Warm regards from Seville
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <
>>> rvs@apache.org>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <
>>> rvs@apache.org
>>> > >
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > Hi!
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
>>> > >> > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
>>> > >> > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
>>> > >> > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
>>> > >> > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of
>>> mailing
>>> > >> > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the
>>> current
>>> > 22
>>> > >> PMC
>>> > >> > > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean
>>> writing
>>> > >> > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the
>>> PMC):
>>> > >> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to
>>> > >> consider
>>> > >> > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
>>> > >> > > > > > some of the project's active users.
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > Thoughts?
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > Hi Again!
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this
>>> > thread
>>> > >> so
>>> > >> > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with
>>> at
>>> > >> least 3
>>> > >> > > > > reasonably active PMC
>>> > >> > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may
>>> be end
>>> > >> up
>>> > >> > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC
>>> members,
>>> > if
>>> > >> > > > > there's enough enthusiastic
>>> > >> > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into
>>> > >> "rebooting"
>>> > >> > > > > the PMC that way.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol
>>> continues
>>> > as
>>> > >> an
>>> > >> > > > > active Apache project -- please
>>> > >> > > > > reply to this thread.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > Thanks,
>>> > >> > > > > Roman.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
Hi Furkan,
Sorry I didn't. This weekend is probably a good time for me. Will review
and eventually merge them before next Monday
Thanks!
El El jue, 29 nov 2018 a las 17:48, Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
escribió:
> Hi Rafa,
>
> Did you have a chance to check my PRs?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:51 AM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Furkan,
>>
>> Thanks! I will take a look ASAP in order to get them merged
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rafa
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:40 PM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've just created STANBOL-1473, STANBOL-1474, STANBOL-1475 and
>> STANBOL-1476
>> > and created PRs for them!
>> >
>> > Kind Regards,
>> > Furkan KAMACI
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Rafa & Roman,
>> > >
>> > > I've already contributed to Apache Stanbol with my 15 issues. You can
>> > > check them from here:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Stanbol%20AND%20reporter%20%3D%20kamaci%20
>> > >
>> > > @Rafa I'll check backlog and also file new issues to keep my
>> > contribution.
>> > >
>> > > @Roman I believe that Apache Stanbol has a great future and I'll try
>> to
>> > > contribute its source code and improve its community as much as I can.
>> > >
>> > > Kind Regards,
>> > > Furkan KAMACI
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:37 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Everyone,
>> > >>
>> > >> top-posting here to summarize a month worth of this thread:
>> > >> 1. it sounds like there's still interest in keeping Stanbol alive
>> > >> 2. it sounds like at least Phillip Rhodes, Dileepa Jayakody and
>> > >> Rafa Haro are enthusiastic enough about Stanbol's future
>> > >> and are willing to invest some amount of their time into it.
>> > >>
>> > >> Hence, I'd like to propose that we start a formal PMC vote on adding
>> > >> these
>> > >> individuals to the PMC in the hope that this will help to revitalize
>> the
>> > >> project.
>> > >>
>> > >> If there are no objections -- I'm going to start a PMC vote thread
>> over
>> > >> the
>> > >> weekend.
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >> Roman.
>> > >>
>> > >> On 2018/10/25 02:50:03, Phillip Rhodes <mo...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would
>> > >> > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had
>> > >> > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
>> > >> > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to
>> contribute.
>> > >> > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline,
>> but I
>> > >> > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start
>> > >> > contributing to Stanbol.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Phil
>> > >> > ~~~
>> > >> > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
>> > >> > <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since
>> > >> 2014.
>> > >> > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the
>> project
>> > >> for
>> > >> > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my
>> > >> contributions
>> > >> > > have been very low since.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
>> > >> > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the
>> > >> bugs and
>> > >> > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active
>> again,
>> > >> and see
>> > >> > > the senior developers back on the list :)
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Thanks,
>> > >> > > Dileepa
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > Hi Roman,
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we
>> > have
>> > >> > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few
>> months.
>> > >> There
>> > >> > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3
>> "active"
>> > >> > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we
>> > would
>> > >> be
>> > >> > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and
>> so
>> > >> on but,
>> > >> > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on
>> the
>> > >> backlog,
>> > >> > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I
>> think
>> > >> this
>> > >> > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within
>> the
>> > >> same
>> > >> > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in
>> > taking
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this
>> > >> situation has
>> > >> > > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing
>> lists
>> > >> is
>> > >> > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is
>> > time
>> > >> to
>> > >> > > > archive the project.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project
>> > into
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest
>> > opinion
>> > >> it is
>> > >> > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or
>> extend
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > community with new members interested in further improvements
>> and
>> > >> uses
>> > >> > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Warm regards from Seville
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <
>> rvs@apache.org>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <
>> rvs@apache.org
>> > >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Hi!
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
>> > >> > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
>> > >> > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
>> > >> > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
>> > >> > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of
>> mailing
>> > >> > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the
>> current
>> > 22
>> > >> PMC
>> > >> > > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean
>> writing
>> > >> > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the
>> PMC):
>> > >> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to
>> > >> consider
>> > >> > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
>> > >> > > > > > some of the project's active users.
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Thoughts?
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Hi Again!
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this
>> > thread
>> > >> so
>> > >> > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with
>> at
>> > >> least 3
>> > >> > > > > reasonably active PMC
>> > >> > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be
>> end
>> > >> up
>> > >> > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC
>> members,
>> > if
>> > >> > > > > there's enough enthusiastic
>> > >> > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into
>> > >> "rebooting"
>> > >> > > > > the PMC that way.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol
>> continues
>> > as
>> > >> an
>> > >> > > > > active Apache project -- please
>> > >> > > > > reply to this thread.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Thanks,
>> > >> > > > > Roman.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rafa,
Did you have a chance to check my PRs?
Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:51 AM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Furkan,
>
> Thanks! I will take a look ASAP in order to get them merged
>
> Cheers,
> Rafa
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:40 PM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just created STANBOL-1473, STANBOL-1474, STANBOL-1475 and
> STANBOL-1476
> > and created PRs for them!
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Furkan KAMACI
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rafa & Roman,
> > >
> > > I've already contributed to Apache Stanbol with my 15 issues. You can
> > > check them from here:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Stanbol%20AND%20reporter%20%3D%20kamaci%20
> > >
> > > @Rafa I'll check backlog and also file new issues to keep my
> > contribution.
> > >
> > > @Roman I believe that Apache Stanbol has a great future and I'll try to
> > > contribute its source code and improve its community as much as I can.
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > > Furkan KAMACI
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:37 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Everyone,
> > >>
> > >> top-posting here to summarize a month worth of this thread:
> > >> 1. it sounds like there's still interest in keeping Stanbol alive
> > >> 2. it sounds like at least Phillip Rhodes, Dileepa Jayakody and
> > >> Rafa Haro are enthusiastic enough about Stanbol's future
> > >> and are willing to invest some amount of their time into it.
> > >>
> > >> Hence, I'd like to propose that we start a formal PMC vote on adding
> > >> these
> > >> individuals to the PMC in the hope that this will help to revitalize
> the
> > >> project.
> > >>
> > >> If there are no objections -- I'm going to start a PMC vote thread
> over
> > >> the
> > >> weekend.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Roman.
> > >>
> > >> On 2018/10/25 02:50:03, Phillip Rhodes <mo...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would
> > >> > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had
> > >> > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
> > >> > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to
> contribute.
> > >> > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but
> I
> > >> > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start
> > >> > contributing to Stanbol.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Phil
> > >> > ~~~
> > >> > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
> > >> > <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since
> > >> 2014.
> > >> > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the
> project
> > >> for
> > >> > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my
> > >> contributions
> > >> > > have been very low since.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
> > >> > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the
> > >> bugs and
> > >> > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active
> again,
> > >> and see
> > >> > > the senior developers back on the list :)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks,
> > >> > > Dileepa
> > >> > >
> > >> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi Roman,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we
> > have
> > >> > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few
> months.
> > >> There
> > >> > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3
> "active"
> > >> > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we
> > would
> > >> be
> > >> > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and
> so
> > >> on but,
> > >> > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on
> the
> > >> backlog,
> > >> > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think
> > >> this
> > >> > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within
> the
> > >> same
> > >> > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in
> > taking
> > >> the
> > >> > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this
> > >> situation has
> > >> > > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing
> lists
> > >> is
> > >> > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is
> > time
> > >> to
> > >> > > > archive the project.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project
> > into
> > >> the
> > >> > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest
> > opinion
> > >> it is
> > >> > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or
> extend
> > >> the
> > >> > > > community with new members interested in further improvements
> and
> > >> uses
> > >> > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Warm regards from Seville
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <
> rvs@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <
> rvs@apache.org
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi!
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> > >> > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >>
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> > >> > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> > >> > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> > >> > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of
> mailing
> > >> > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current
> > 22
> > >> PMC
> > >> > > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> > >> > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the
> PMC):
> > >> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to
> > >> consider
> > >> > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> > >> > > > > > some of the project's active users.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thoughts?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi Again!
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this
> > thread
> > >> so
> > >> > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at
> > >> least 3
> > >> > > > > reasonably active PMC
> > >> > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be
> end
> > >> up
> > >> > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members,
> > if
> > >> > > > > there's enough enthusiastic
> > >> > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into
> > >> "rebooting"
> > >> > > > > the PMC that way.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues
> > as
> > >> an
> > >> > > > > active Apache project -- please
> > >> > > > > reply to this thread.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > Roman.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
Hi Furkan,
Thanks! I will take a look ASAP in order to get them merged
Cheers,
Rafa
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:40 PM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just created STANBOL-1473, STANBOL-1474, STANBOL-1475 and STANBOL-1476
> and created PRs for them!
>
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rafa & Roman,
> >
> > I've already contributed to Apache Stanbol with my 15 issues. You can
> > check them from here:
> >
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Stanbol%20AND%20reporter%20%3D%20kamaci%20
> >
> > @Rafa I'll check backlog and also file new issues to keep my
> contribution.
> >
> > @Roman I believe that Apache Stanbol has a great future and I'll try to
> > contribute its source code and improve its community as much as I can.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Furkan KAMACI
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:37 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> top-posting here to summarize a month worth of this thread:
> >> 1. it sounds like there's still interest in keeping Stanbol alive
> >> 2. it sounds like at least Phillip Rhodes, Dileepa Jayakody and
> >> Rafa Haro are enthusiastic enough about Stanbol's future
> >> and are willing to invest some amount of their time into it.
> >>
> >> Hence, I'd like to propose that we start a formal PMC vote on adding
> >> these
> >> individuals to the PMC in the hope that this will help to revitalize the
> >> project.
> >>
> >> If there are no objections -- I'm going to start a PMC vote thread over
> >> the
> >> weekend.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Roman.
> >>
> >> On 2018/10/25 02:50:03, Phillip Rhodes <mo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would
> >> > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had
> >> > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
> >> > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to contribute.
> >> > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but I
> >> > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start
> >> > contributing to Stanbol.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Phil
> >> > ~~~
> >> > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
> >> > <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since
> >> 2014.
> >> > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the project
> >> for
> >> > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my
> >> contributions
> >> > > have been very low since.
> >> > >
> >> > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
> >> > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the
> >> bugs and
> >> > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active again,
> >> and see
> >> > > the senior developers back on the list :)
> >> > >
> >> > > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Dileepa
> >> > >
> >> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Roman,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we
> have
> >> > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months.
> >> There
> >> > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active"
> >> > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we
> would
> >> be
> >> > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so
> >> on but,
> >> > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the
> >> backlog,
> >> > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think
> >> this
> >> > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the
> >> same
> >> > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in
> taking
> >> the
> >> > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this
> >> situation has
> >> > > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists
> >> is
> >> > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is
> time
> >> to
> >> > > > archive the project.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project
> into
> >> the
> >> > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest
> opinion
> >> it is
> >> > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend
> >> the
> >> > > > community with new members interested in further improvements and
> >> uses
> >> > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Warm regards from Seville
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi!
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> >> > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> >> > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> >> > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> >> > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> >> > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current
> 22
> >> PMC
> >> > > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> >> > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> >> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to
> >> consider
> >> > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> >> > > > > > some of the project's active users.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thoughts?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi Again!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this
> thread
> >> so
> >> > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at
> >> least 3
> >> > > > > reasonably active PMC
> >> > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end
> >> up
> >> > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members,
> if
> >> > > > > there's enough enthusiastic
> >> > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into
> >> "rebooting"
> >> > > > > the PMC that way.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues
> as
> >> an
> >> > > > > active Apache project -- please
> >> > > > > reply to this thread.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > Roman.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I've just created STANBOL-1473, STANBOL-1474, STANBOL-1475 and STANBOL-1476
and created PRs for them!
Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Rafa & Roman,
>
> I've already contributed to Apache Stanbol with my 15 issues. You can
> check them from here:
>
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Stanbol%20AND%20reporter%20%3D%20kamaci%20
>
> @Rafa I'll check backlog and also file new issues to keep my contribution.
>
> @Roman I believe that Apache Stanbol has a great future and I'll try to
> contribute its source code and improve its community as much as I can.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:37 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> top-posting here to summarize a month worth of this thread:
>> 1. it sounds like there's still interest in keeping Stanbol alive
>> 2. it sounds like at least Phillip Rhodes, Dileepa Jayakody and
>> Rafa Haro are enthusiastic enough about Stanbol's future
>> and are willing to invest some amount of their time into it.
>>
>> Hence, I'd like to propose that we start a formal PMC vote on adding
>> these
>> individuals to the PMC in the hope that this will help to revitalize the
>> project.
>>
>> If there are no objections -- I'm going to start a PMC vote thread over
>> the
>> weekend.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>>
>> On 2018/10/25 02:50:03, Phillip Rhodes <mo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would
>> > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had
>> > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
>> > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to contribute.
>> > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but I
>> > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start
>> > contributing to Stanbol.
>> >
>> >
>> > Phil
>> > ~~~
>> > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
>> > <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
>> > >
>> > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since
>> 2014.
>> > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the project
>> for
>> > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my
>> contributions
>> > > have been very low since.
>> > >
>> > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
>> > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the
>> bugs and
>> > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active again,
>> and see
>> > > the senior developers back on the list :)
>> > >
>> > > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Dileepa
>> > >
>> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Roman,
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we have
>> > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months.
>> There
>> > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active"
>> > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we would
>> be
>> > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so
>> on but,
>> > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the
>> backlog,
>> > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think
>> this
>> > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the
>> same
>> > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in taking
>> the
>> > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this
>> situation has
>> > > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists
>> is
>> > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is time
>> to
>> > > > archive the project.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project into
>> the
>> > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest opinion
>> it is
>> > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend
>> the
>> > > > community with new members interested in further improvements and
>> uses
>> > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
>> > > >
>> > > > Warm regards from Seville
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
>> > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
>> > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
>> > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
>> > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
>> > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22
>> PMC
>> > > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
>> > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
>> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to
>> consider
>> > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
>> > > > > > some of the project's active users.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thoughts?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi Again!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread
>> so
>> > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at
>> least 3
>> > > > > reasonably active PMC
>> > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end
>> up
>> > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if
>> > > > > there's enough enthusiastic
>> > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into
>> "rebooting"
>> > > > > the PMC that way.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as
>> an
>> > > > > active Apache project -- please
>> > > > > reply to this thread.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > Roman.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> >
>>
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Furkan KAMACI <fu...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rafa & Roman,
I've already contributed to Apache Stanbol with my 15 issues. You can check
them from here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Stanbol%20AND%20reporter%20%3D%20kamaci%20
@Rafa I'll check backlog and also file new issues to keep my contribution.
@Roman I believe that Apache Stanbol has a great future and I'll try to
contribute its source code and improve its community as much as I can.
Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:37 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> top-posting here to summarize a month worth of this thread:
> 1. it sounds like there's still interest in keeping Stanbol alive
> 2. it sounds like at least Phillip Rhodes, Dileepa Jayakody and
> Rafa Haro are enthusiastic enough about Stanbol's future
> and are willing to invest some amount of their time into it.
>
> Hence, I'd like to propose that we start a formal PMC vote on adding these
> individuals to the PMC in the hope that this will help to revitalize the
> project.
>
> If there are no objections -- I'm going to start a PMC vote thread over the
> weekend.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On 2018/10/25 02:50:03, Phillip Rhodes <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would
> > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had
> > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
> > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to contribute.
> > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but I
> > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start
> > contributing to Stanbol.
> >
> >
> > Phil
> > ~~~
> > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
> > <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
> > >
> > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since 2014.
> > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the project for
> > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my
> contributions
> > > have been very low since.
> > >
> > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
> > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the bugs
> and
> > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active again,
> and see
> > > the senior developers back on the list :)
> > >
> > > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dileepa
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Roman,
> > > >
> > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we have
> > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months.
> There
> > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active"
> > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we would
> be
> > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so on
> but,
> > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the
> backlog,
> > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think this
> > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the
> same
> > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in taking
> the
> > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this
> situation has
> > > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists is
> > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is time
> to
> > > > archive the project.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project into
> the
> > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest opinion
> it is
> > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend the
> > > > community with new members interested in further improvements and
> uses
> > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
> > > >
> > > > Warm regards from Seville
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
> > > > > >
> > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22
> PMC
> > > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to
> consider
> > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> > > > > > some of the project's active users.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Again!
> > > > >
> > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread
> so
> > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at
> least 3
> > > > > reasonably active PMC
> > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end up
> > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if
> > > > > there's enough enthusiastic
> > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into "rebooting"
> > > > > the PMC that way.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as
> an
> > > > > active Apache project -- please
> > > > > reply to this thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Roman.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
Hi Everyone,
top-posting here to summarize a month worth of this thread:
1. it sounds like there's still interest in keeping Stanbol alive
2. it sounds like at least Phillip Rhodes, Dileepa Jayakody and
Rafa Haro are enthusiastic enough about Stanbol's future
and are willing to invest some amount of their time into it.
Hence, I'd like to propose that we start a formal PMC vote on adding these
individuals to the PMC in the hope that this will help to revitalize the project.
If there are no objections -- I'm going to start a PMC vote thread over the
weekend.
Thanks,
Roman.
On 2018/10/25 02:50:03, Phillip Rhodes <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would
> like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had
> much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
> committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to contribute.
> It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but I
> can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start
> contributing to Stanbol.
>
>
> Phil
> ~~~
> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
> <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
> >
> > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since 2014.
> > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the project for
> > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my contributions
> > have been very low since.
> >
> > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
> > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the bugs and
> > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active again, and see
> > the senior developers back on the list :)
> >
> > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dileepa
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Roman,
> > >
> > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we have
> > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months. There
> > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active"
> > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we would be
> > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so on but,
> > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the backlog,
> > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think this
> > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the same
> > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in taking the
> > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this situation has
> > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists is
> > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is time to
> > > archive the project.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project into the
> > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest opinion it is
> > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend the
> > > community with new members interested in further improvements and uses
> > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
> > >
> > > Warm regards from Seville
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
> > > > >
> > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22 PMC
> > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to consider
> > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> > > > > some of the project's active users.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Again!
> > > >
> > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread so
> > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
> > > >
> > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at least 3
> > > > reasonably active PMC
> > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end up
> > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
> > > >
> > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if
> > > > there's enough enthusiastic
> > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into "rebooting"
> > > > the PMC that way.
> > > >
> > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as an
> > > > active Apache project -- please
> > > > reply to this thread.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Roman.
> > > >
> > >
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Phillip Rhodes <mo...@gmail.com>.
Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would
like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had
much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to contribute.
It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but I
can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start
contributing to Stanbol.
Phil
~~~
This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
<di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
>
> I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since 2014.
> While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the project for
> couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my contributions
> have been very low since.
>
> However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
> Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the bugs and
> work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active again, and see
> the senior developers back on the list :)
>
> I will start to engage again as much as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Dileepa
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Roman,
> >
> > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we have
> > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months. There
> > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active"
> > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we would be
> > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so on but,
> > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the backlog,
> > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think this
> > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the same
> > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in taking the
> > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this situation has
> > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists is
> > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is time to
> > archive the project.
> >
> > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project into the
> > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest opinion it is
> > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend the
> > community with new members interested in further improvements and uses
> > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
> >
> > Warm regards from Seville
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> > > >
> > >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
> > > >
> > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
> > > >
> > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22 PMC
> > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
> > > >
> > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to consider
> > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> > > > some of the project's active users.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Hi Again!
> > >
> > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread so
> > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
> > >
> > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at least 3
> > > reasonably active PMC
> > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end up
> > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
> > >
> > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if
> > > there's enough enthusiastic
> > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into "rebooting"
> > > the PMC that way.
> > >
> > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as an
> > > active Apache project -- please
> > > reply to this thread.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Roman.
> > >
> >
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>.
Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since 2014.
While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the project for
couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my contributions
have been very low since.
However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the bugs and
work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active again, and see
the senior developers back on the list :)
I will start to engage again as much as possible.
Thanks,
Dileepa
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Roman,
>
> I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we have
> discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months. There
> were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active"
> (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we would be
> somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so on but,
> because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the backlog,
> community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think this
> situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the same
> threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in taking the
> project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this situation has
> remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists is
> minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is time to
> archive the project.
>
> I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project into the
> Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest opinion it is
> that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend the
> community with new members interested in further improvements and uses
> cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
>
> Warm regards from Seville
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
> > >
> > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22 PMC
> > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
> > >
> > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to consider
> > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> > > some of the project's active users.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > Hi Again!
> >
> > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread so
> > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
> >
> > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at least 3
> > reasonably active PMC
> > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end up
> > "archived" into Apache Attic.
> >
> > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if
> > there's enough enthusiastic
> > folks in the user community we can definitely look into "rebooting"
> > the PMC that way.
> >
> > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as an
> > active Apache project -- please
> > reply to this thread.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roman.
> >
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
Hi Roman,
I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we have
discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months. There
were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active"
(including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we would be
somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so on but,
because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the backlog,
community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think this
situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the same
threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in taking the
project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this situation has
remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists is
minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is time to
archive the project.
I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project into the
Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest opinion it is
that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend the
community with new members interested in further improvements and uses
cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project.
Warm regards from Seville
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
> >
> > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
> >
> > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22 PMC
> > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
> >
> > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to consider
> > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> > some of the project's active users.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Hi Again!
>
> it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread so
> I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
>
> The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at least 3
> reasonably active PMC
> members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end up
> "archived" into Apache Attic.
>
> Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if
> there's enough enthusiastic
> folks in the user community we can definitely look into "rebooting"
> the PMC that way.
>
> If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as an
> active Apache project -- please
> reply to this thread.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
>
> at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
>
> Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22 PMC
> members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
>
> I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to consider
> expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> some of the project's active users.
>
> Thoughts?
Hi Again!
it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread so
I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at least 3
reasonably active PMC
members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end up
"archived" into Apache Attic.
Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if
there's enough enthusiastic
folks in the user community we can definitely look into "rebooting"
the PMC that way.
If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as an
active Apache project -- please
reply to this thread.
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Tom <tg...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi,
It's been a couple of years since I used Stanbol, but recently I've been thinking of it again. I've recently been reading a lot about Solid (https://github.com/solid) and have written some preliminary code to use it. The focus of Solid is on data independence and privacy. So using potentially unknown Stanbol servers to enhance data for solid servers doesn't seem ideal to me, and it seems like it would be better to do text enhancement in the browser. This seems increasingly possible with laptops, tablets and phones using powerful graphics processors meant for games (see for example https://tenso.rs). So I'm wondering about the possibilities of porting or reimplementing some of Stanbol's capabilities in the browser for use with Solid and not requiring a server. If you have any ideas about or interest in this please let me know!
Tom Gallivan
On Oct 9, 2018, 8:50 AM, at 8:50 AM, Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi Roman,
>
>agreed, it is a good idea to include them in the PMC.
>
>Regards,
>Tommaso
>Il giorno dom 7 ott 2018 alle ore 18:48 Roman Shaposhnik
><rv...@apache.org> ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
>> around the level of PMC activity in the project:
>>
>https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
>>
>> at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
>> enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
>> of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
>> that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
>>
>> Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
>> list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22 PMC
>> members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
>> code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
>> http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
>>
>> I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to consider
>> expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
>> some of the project's active users.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hi Roman,
agreed, it is a good idea to include them in the PMC.
Regards,
Tommaso
Il giorno dom 7 ott 2018 alle ore 18:48 Roman Shaposhnik
<rv...@apache.org> ha scritto:
>
> Hi!
>
> a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion
> around the level of PMC activity in the project:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
>
> at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's
> enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics
> of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem
> that we're back to where Shane's discussion started.
>
> Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing
> list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22 PMC
> members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing
> code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC):
> http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
>
> I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to consider
> expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or
> some of the project's active users.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.