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Posted to dev@servicemix.apache.org by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> on 2011/01/19 08:12:05 UTC
Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Hi all,
several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
- to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
dependencies (components, etc)
- to work on the documentation and website
Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
visibility of the project.
However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
The book could be split into two big sections:
- Karaf from user and dev point of view
- ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
What do you think ?
We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
Regards
JB
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Brian Topping <to...@codehaus.org>.
This is really awesome! Perfect timing for me, will be putting down my credit card just as soon as I can. It will be great to have some more points of reference for building apps in this manner.
On Sep 2, 2011, at 2:56 AM, Moulliard, Charles wrote:
> Not yet. Wait 2-3 weeks for that
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Kuhtz, Andreas <an...@atos.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> Good news. But is there a MEAP available yet? (Haven't found anything
>> with SMX and/or Karaf in Action) ... Or is there a plan when a MEAP is
>> available?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles Moulliard [mailto:cmoulliard@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Freitag, 2. September 2011 08:50
>> To: dev@karaf.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>>
>> Hi Andi,
>>
>> We are on the track and will work on the content next month.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:35 AM, akuhtz <an...@siemens.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Charles,
>>>
>>> Any news on the book?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andi
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-ServiceMix-In-Action-tp2285741p3
>> 303481.html
>>> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
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> FuseSource
> Phone: +32 473 604 014
> Email: cmoulliard@fusesource.com
> Web: http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com, http://fusesource.com
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>
>
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Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by "Moulliard, Charles" <cm...@fusesource.com>.
Not yet. Wait 2-3 weeks for that
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Kuhtz, Andreas <an...@atos.net>wrote:
> Hi Charles,
>
> Good news. But is there a MEAP available yet? (Haven't found anything
> with SMX and/or Karaf in Action) ... Or is there a plan when a MEAP is
> available?
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Moulliard [mailto:cmoulliard@gmail.com]
> Sent: Freitag, 2. September 2011 08:50
> To: dev@karaf.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>
> Hi Andi,
>
> We are on the track and will work on the content next month.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:35 AM, akuhtz <an...@siemens.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Charles,
> >
> > Any news on the book?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andi
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-ServiceMix-In-Action-tp2285741p3
> 303481.html
> > Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>
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Phone: +32 473 604 014
Email: cmoulliard@fusesource.com
Web: http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com, http://fusesource.com
Twitter: cmoulliard
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Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
Wait next week for the code and the video ;-)
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:20 PM, marks1900 <ma...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> I am definitely looking forward to the talk:
>
> http://fusesource.com/resources/video-archived-webinars/ --> Part II:
> Transaction Management with Apache ServiceMix and EIPs
>
> By chance do you have a shared code example on this? Something under your
> github share?
>
> https://github.com/cmoulliard/sparks/tree/master/fuse-webinars
>
>
> Specifically I hope to learn all about XA transactions, and what it takes to
> wrap a JMS and JDBC resource in the same transactional context (Maybe also
> Hibernate in the future). My aim is to use the Camel route components such
> as ActiveMQComponent, SqlComponent, JdbcComponent, in a way that will result
> in a rollback of all resources on a Camel route if any issue occurs. While
> I have been able to achieve this using the Atomikos libraries, I currently
> have not been able to use the transaction manager provided by ServiceMix
> successfully.
>
>
>
> --
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>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by marks1900 <ma...@yahoo.com.au>.
I am definitely looking forward to the talk:
http://fusesource.com/resources/video-archived-webinars/ --> Part II:
Transaction Management with Apache ServiceMix and EIPs
By chance do you have a shared code example on this? Something under your
github share?
https://github.com/cmoulliard/sparks/tree/master/fuse-webinars
Specifically I hope to learn all about XA transactions, and what it takes to
wrap a JMS and JDBC resource in the same transactional context (Maybe also
Hibernate in the future). My aim is to use the Camel route components such
as ActiveMQComponent, SqlComponent, JdbcComponent, in a way that will result
in a rollback of all resources on a Camel route if any issue occurs. While
I have been able to achieve this using the Atomikos libraries, I currently
have not been able to use the transaction manager provided by ServiceMix
successfully.
--
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Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by akuhtz <an...@siemens.com>.
Ok, that's great news!
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Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Thanks for the update Charles.
As previously said, I would be more than pleased to contribute.
Regards
JB
On 10/31/2011 05:11 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The book is in the starting block. We have discussed with Manning
> editor a new title name and table of content. It will contain a
> chapter about JTA/XA. Gert and myself will start to work on the
> chapter one after DevoXX
>
> BTW, I will present JTA/XA during this webinar too :
> http://fusesource.com/resources/video-archived-webinars/ --> Part II:
> Transaction Management with Apache ServiceMix and EIPs
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>
>> I didn't get update from Charles about the book. I will ping him as soon as
>> he's on IRC.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 10/31/2011 03:13 PM, marks1900 wrote:
>>>
>>> A book sounds terrific!!
>>>
>>> I am currently using ServiceMix 4.3 for the last couple of months and it's
>>> been a huge struggle. Other than the helpful quick start guide
>>>
>>> (http://servicemix.apache.org/docs/4.3.0-SNAPSHOT/quickstart/quickstart.pdf),
>>> I am left wanting a whole lot more.
>>>
>>> As a suggestion :-p, it would also be great if there was a section in that
>>> book that focused on implementing XA Transactions, specifically between a
>>> JMS and a Database connection. It took me quite a while to achieve some
>>> form of a solution, and even this would not have been possible without
>>> some
>>> very helpful community members.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://servicemix.396122.n5.nabble.com/JMS-and-Database-interactions-under-the-same-transactional-context-td4762819.html
>>> http://fusesource.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3322&tstart=0
>>>
>>> IMHO, transactional Integrity is probably one of the first ingredients of
>>> most development efforts in an enterprise.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am more than willing to read a pre-release version and provide feedback.
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-ServiceMix-In-Action-tp2285741p3467918.html
>>> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
The book is in the starting block. We have discussed with Manning
editor a new title name and table of content. It will contain a
chapter about JTA/XA. Gert and myself will start to work on the
chapter one after DevoXX
BTW, I will present JTA/XA during this webinar too :
http://fusesource.com/resources/video-archived-webinars/ --> Part II:
Transaction Management with Apache ServiceMix and EIPs
Regards,
Charles
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> I didn't get update from Charles about the book. I will ping him as soon as
> he's on IRC.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 10/31/2011 03:13 PM, marks1900 wrote:
>>
>> A book sounds terrific!!
>>
>> I am currently using ServiceMix 4.3 for the last couple of months and it's
>> been a huge struggle. Other than the helpful quick start guide
>>
>> (http://servicemix.apache.org/docs/4.3.0-SNAPSHOT/quickstart/quickstart.pdf),
>> I am left wanting a whole lot more.
>>
>> As a suggestion :-p, it would also be great if there was a section in that
>> book that focused on implementing XA Transactions, specifically between a
>> JMS and a Database connection. It took me quite a while to achieve some
>> form of a solution, and even this would not have been possible without
>> some
>> very helpful community members.
>>
>>
>> http://servicemix.396122.n5.nabble.com/JMS-and-Database-interactions-under-the-same-transactional-context-td4762819.html
>> http://fusesource.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3322&tstart=0
>>
>> IMHO, transactional Integrity is probably one of the first ingredients of
>> most development efforts in an enterprise.
>>
>>
>> I am more than willing to read a pre-release version and provide feedback.
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-ServiceMix-In-Action-tp2285741p3467918.html
>> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Thanks for your feedback.
I didn't get update from Charles about the book. I will ping him as soon
as he's on IRC.
Regards
JB
On 10/31/2011 03:13 PM, marks1900 wrote:
> A book sounds terrific!!
>
> I am currently using ServiceMix 4.3 for the last couple of months and it's
> been a huge struggle. Other than the helpful quick start guide
> (http://servicemix.apache.org/docs/4.3.0-SNAPSHOT/quickstart/quickstart.pdf),
> I am left wanting a whole lot more.
>
> As a suggestion :-p, it would also be great if there was a section in that
> book that focused on implementing XA Transactions, specifically between a
> JMS and a Database connection. It took me quite a while to achieve some
> form of a solution, and even this would not have been possible without some
> very helpful community members.
>
> http://servicemix.396122.n5.nabble.com/JMS-and-Database-interactions-under-the-same-transactional-context-td4762819.html
> http://fusesource.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3322&tstart=0
>
> IMHO, transactional Integrity is probably one of the first ingredients of
> most development efforts in an enterprise.
>
>
> I am more than willing to read a pre-release version and provide feedback.
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-ServiceMix-In-Action-tp2285741p3467918.html
> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by marks1900 <ma...@yahoo.com.au>.
A book sounds terrific!!
I am currently using ServiceMix 4.3 for the last couple of months and it's
been a huge struggle. Other than the helpful quick start guide
(http://servicemix.apache.org/docs/4.3.0-SNAPSHOT/quickstart/quickstart.pdf),
I am left wanting a whole lot more.
As a suggestion :-p, it would also be great if there was a section in that
book that focused on implementing XA Transactions, specifically between a
JMS and a Database connection. It took me quite a while to achieve some
form of a solution, and even this would not have been possible without some
very helpful community members.
http://servicemix.396122.n5.nabble.com/JMS-and-Database-interactions-under-the-same-transactional-context-td4762819.html
http://fusesource.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3322&tstart=0
IMHO, transactional Integrity is probably one of the first ingredients of
most development efforts in an enterprise.
I am more than willing to read a pre-release version and provide feedback.
--
View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-ServiceMix-In-Action-tp2285741p3467918.html
Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
The scope of the book has been a little bit revisited and will be much
more oriented to Master Enterprise Integration Projects on ServiceMix
with of course Camel, Karaf, ActiveMq and CXF.
This is why also it has take much more time
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wait 2-3 weeks that everything is put in place ;-)
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Kuhtz, Andreas <an...@atos.net> wrote:
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> Good news. But is there a MEAP available yet? (Haven't found anything
>> with SMX and/or Karaf in Action) ... Or is there a plan when a MEAP is
>> available?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles Moulliard [mailto:cmoulliard@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Freitag, 2. September 2011 08:50
>> To: dev@karaf.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>>
>> Hi Andi,
>>
>> We are on the track and will work on the content next month.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:35 AM, akuhtz <an...@siemens.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Charles,
>>>
>>> Any news on the book?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andi
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-ServiceMix-In-Action-tp2285741p3
>> 303481.html
>>> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
Wait 2-3 weeks that everything is put in place ;-)
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Kuhtz, Andreas <an...@atos.net> wrote:
> Hi Charles,
>
> Good news. But is there a MEAP available yet? (Haven't found anything
> with SMX and/or Karaf in Action) ... Or is there a plan when a MEAP is
> available?
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Moulliard [mailto:cmoulliard@gmail.com]
> Sent: Freitag, 2. September 2011 08:50
> To: dev@karaf.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>
> Hi Andi,
>
> We are on the track and will work on the content next month.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:35 AM, akuhtz <an...@siemens.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> Any news on the book?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andi
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-ServiceMix-In-Action-tp2285741p3
> 303481.html
>> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
RE: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by "Kuhtz, Andreas" <an...@atos.net>.
Hi Charles,
Good news. But is there a MEAP available yet? (Haven't found anything
with SMX and/or Karaf in Action) ... Or is there a plan when a MEAP is
available?
Regards,
Andreas
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Moulliard [mailto:cmoulliard@gmail.com]
Sent: Freitag, 2. September 2011 08:50
To: dev@karaf.apache.org
Subject: Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Hi Andi,
We are on the track and will work on the content next month.
Regards,
Charles
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:35 AM, akuhtz <an...@siemens.com>
wrote:
> Hi Charles,
>
> Any news on the book?
>
> Regards,
> Andi
>
> --
> View this message in context:
http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-ServiceMix-In-Action-tp2285741p3
303481.html
> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andi,
We are on the track and will work on the content next month.
Regards,
Charles
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:35 AM, akuhtz <an...@siemens.com> wrote:
> Hi Charles,
>
> Any news on the book?
>
> Regards,
> Andi
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Karaf-ServiceMix-In-Action-tp2285741p3303481.html
> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by akuhtz <an...@siemens.com>.
Hi Charles,
Any news on the book?
Regards,
Andi
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Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
I cross my fingers that we will be able now to start to write the book with Ade.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 0.3 is in the process of being released, so it should be out in a
> couple of days or weeks at most.
> We're waiting it for karaf 2.2.0 too ;-)
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 16:45, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi JB, All,
>>
>> We have started a discussion regarding to the Manning book name a
>> couple of weeks ago and the idea was you propose to use karaf + smx in
>> the title name or as a subtitle. We have to re-discuss this point with
>> the editor soon. I hope also that in the meantime, Aries 0.3 will be
>> published because we would like to cover some interesting topics like
>> Aries Transaction, JPA, ... with camel on Smx.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charles Moulliard
>>
>> Sr. Principal Solution Architect - FuseSource
>> Apache Committer
>>
>> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>> Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
>> Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
>> Skype: cmoulliard
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
>>> Hi JB,
>>>
>>> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ade
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
>>> To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <de...@servicemix.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
>>> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>>>
>>> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
>>> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
>>> dependencies (components, etc)
>>> - to work on the documentation and website
>>>
>>> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
>>> visibility of the project.
>>> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>>>
>>> I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
>>>
>>> The book could be split into two big sections:
>>> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
>>> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>>>
>>> What do you think ?
>>>
>>> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
0.3 is in the process of being released, so it should be out in a
couple of days or weeks at most.
We're waiting it for karaf 2.2.0 too ;-)
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 16:45, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi JB, All,
>
> We have started a discussion regarding to the Manning book name a
> couple of weeks ago and the idea was you propose to use karaf + smx in
> the title name or as a subtitle. We have to re-discuss this point with
> the editor soon. I hope also that in the meantime, Aries 0.3 will be
> published because we would like to cover some interesting topics like
> Aries Transaction, JPA, ... with camel on Smx.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles Moulliard
>
> Sr. Principal Solution Architect - FuseSource
> Apache Committer
>
> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
> Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
> Skype: cmoulliard
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
>> Hi JB,
>>
>> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ade
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
>> To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <de...@servicemix.apache.org>
>> Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
>> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>>
>> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
>> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
>> dependencies (components, etc)
>> - to work on the documentation and website
>>
>> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
>> visibility of the project.
>> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>>
>> I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
>>
>> The book could be split into two big sections:
>> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
>> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>>
>> What do you think ?
>>
>> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
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Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by "Jamie G." <ja...@gmail.com>.
A separate Karaf book would be helpful for non-Servicemix users. As
far as I know we have positioned Karaf to be the basis for multiple
projects, not just Servicemix (granted it's the largest, most popular
Karaf user at this time).
Other than the core features, I could see a chapter on re-branding
Karaf, and perhaps using it with Camel, AMQ, or as part of OpenTSB or
other Karaf based projects.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Moulliard, Charles
<cm...@fusesource.com> wrote:
> We will discuss that with Manning editor but having two separate books will
> not help end users and will be responsible on redundancy with the content.
> ServiceMix will be focused on Karaf, Aries and new features provided top of
> the platform (so JBI will not be covered anymore but NMR well). Writing a
> book about ServiceMix 4 without karaf does not have any sense.
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Jamie G. <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree that a separate Apache Karaf book would be nice to see,
>> unfortunately in order to really get the most out of SMX4 a fare
>> amount of Karaf needs to be explained :S Perhaps there would be enough
>> interest with the publisher to have a pure 'Karaf in Action' book made
>> as well?
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Rocco Gallo Citera
>> <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi, All
>> > If you dont mind the opinion of someone who has been following the
>> > Servicemix project since several years ago, I think that both Karaf
>> > and Servicemix are complex enough to have each a book on its own. Even
>> > if Karaf is the core of Servicemix, its an excelent product by itself
>> > and has too many features to explore that a book could be written.
>> > Servicemix could be explained without deep knowledge of Karaf and the
>> > SMX 3 version is a great product that should not be easy dismiss.
>> > Interactions, set up, concepts, there are lots of things to be
>> > explored in a book about each. Its a great idea and I look forward to
>> > read the book.
>> > Thats my humble opinion.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Charles Moulliard
>> > <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi JB, All,
>> >>
>> >> We have started a discussion regarding to the Manning book name a
>> >> couple of weeks ago and the idea was you propose to use karaf + smx in
>> >> the title name or as a subtitle. We have to re-discuss this point with
>> >> the editor soon. I hope also that in the meantime, Aries 0.3 will be
>> >> published because we would like to cover some interesting topics like
>> >> Aries Transaction, JPA, ... with camel on Smx.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Charles Moulliard
>> >>
>> >> Sr. Principal Solution Architect - FuseSource
>> >> Apache Committer
>> >>
>> >> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>> >> Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
>> >> Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
>> >> Skype: cmoulliard
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Hi JB,
>> >>>
>> >>> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action'
>> naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is
>> published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Ade
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
>> >>> To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <
>> dev@servicemix.apache.org>
>> >>> Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
>> >>> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we
>> need:
>> >>> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
>> >>> dependencies (components, etc)
>> >>> - to work on the documentation and website
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
>> >>> visibility of the project.
>> >>> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>> >>>
>> >>> I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
>> >>>
>> >>> The book could be split into two big sections:
>> >>> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
>> >>> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>> >>>
>> >>> What do you think ?
>> >>>
>> >>> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards
>> >>> JB
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Charles Moulliard - Sr. Principal Solution Architect
> FuseSource
> Phone: +32 473 604 014
> Email: cmoulliard@fusesource.com
> Web: http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com, http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: cmoulliard
>
> "The experts in open source integration and messaging."
> <http://www.progress.com/>
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by "Moulliard, Charles" <cm...@fusesource.com>.
We will discuss that with Manning editor but having two separate books will
not help end users and will be responsible on redundancy with the content.
ServiceMix will be focused on Karaf, Aries and new features provided top of
the platform (so JBI will not be covered anymore but NMR well). Writing a
book about ServiceMix 4 without karaf does not have any sense.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Jamie G. <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree that a separate Apache Karaf book would be nice to see,
> unfortunately in order to really get the most out of SMX4 a fare
> amount of Karaf needs to be explained :S Perhaps there would be enough
> interest with the publisher to have a pure 'Karaf in Action' book made
> as well?
>
> J
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Rocco Gallo Citera
> <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi, All
> > If you dont mind the opinion of someone who has been following the
> > Servicemix project since several years ago, I think that both Karaf
> > and Servicemix are complex enough to have each a book on its own. Even
> > if Karaf is the core of Servicemix, its an excelent product by itself
> > and has too many features to explore that a book could be written.
> > Servicemix could be explained without deep knowledge of Karaf and the
> > SMX 3 version is a great product that should not be easy dismiss.
> > Interactions, set up, concepts, there are lots of things to be
> > explored in a book about each. Its a great idea and I look forward to
> > read the book.
> > Thats my humble opinion.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Charles Moulliard
> > <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi JB, All,
> >>
> >> We have started a discussion regarding to the Manning book name a
> >> couple of weeks ago and the idea was you propose to use karaf + smx in
> >> the title name or as a subtitle. We have to re-discuss this point with
> >> the editor soon. I hope also that in the meantime, Aries 0.3 will be
> >> published because we would like to cover some interesting topics like
> >> Aries Transaction, JPA, ... with camel on Smx.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Charles Moulliard
> >>
> >> Sr. Principal Solution Architect - FuseSource
> >> Apache Committer
> >>
> >> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> >> Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
> >> Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
> >> Skype: cmoulliard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi JB,
> >>>
> >>> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action'
> naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is
> published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Ade
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
> >>> To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <
> dev@servicemix.apache.org>
> >>> Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
> >>> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
> >>>
> >>> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we
> need:
> >>> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
> >>> dependencies (components, etc)
> >>> - to work on the documentation and website
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
> >>> visibility of the project.
> >>> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
> >>>
> >>> I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
> >>>
> >>> The book could be split into two big sections:
> >>> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
> >>> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
> >>>
> >>> What do you think ?
> >>>
> >>> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
--
--
Charles Moulliard - Sr. Principal Solution Architect
FuseSource
Phone: +32 473 604 014
Email: cmoulliard@fusesource.com
Web: http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com, http://fusesource.com
Twitter: cmoulliard
"The experts in open source integration and messaging."
<http://www.progress.com/>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by "Jamie G." <ja...@gmail.com>.
I agree that a separate Apache Karaf book would be nice to see,
unfortunately in order to really get the most out of SMX4 a fare
amount of Karaf needs to be explained :S Perhaps there would be enough
interest with the publisher to have a pure 'Karaf in Action' book made
as well?
J
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Rocco Gallo Citera
<ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, All
> If you dont mind the opinion of someone who has been following the
> Servicemix project since several years ago, I think that both Karaf
> and Servicemix are complex enough to have each a book on its own. Even
> if Karaf is the core of Servicemix, its an excelent product by itself
> and has too many features to explore that a book could be written.
> Servicemix could be explained without deep knowledge of Karaf and the
> SMX 3 version is a great product that should not be easy dismiss.
> Interactions, set up, concepts, there are lots of things to be
> explored in a book about each. Its a great idea and I look forward to
> read the book.
> Thats my humble opinion.
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Charles Moulliard
> <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi JB, All,
>>
>> We have started a discussion regarding to the Manning book name a
>> couple of weeks ago and the idea was you propose to use karaf + smx in
>> the title name or as a subtitle. We have to re-discuss this point with
>> the editor soon. I hope also that in the meantime, Aries 0.3 will be
>> published because we would like to cover some interesting topics like
>> Aries Transaction, JPA, ... with camel on Smx.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Charles Moulliard
>>
>> Sr. Principal Solution Architect - FuseSource
>> Apache Committer
>>
>> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>> Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
>> Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
>> Skype: cmoulliard
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
>>> Hi JB,
>>>
>>> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ade
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
>>> To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <de...@servicemix.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
>>> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>>>
>>> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
>>> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
>>> dependencies (components, etc)
>>> - to work on the documentation and website
>>>
>>> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
>>> visibility of the project.
>>> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>>>
>>> I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
>>>
>>> The book could be split into two big sections:
>>> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
>>> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>>>
>>> What do you think ?
>>>
>>> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Rocco Gallo Citera <ga...@gmail.com>.
Hi, All
If you dont mind the opinion of someone who has been following the
Servicemix project since several years ago, I think that both Karaf
and Servicemix are complex enough to have each a book on its own. Even
if Karaf is the core of Servicemix, its an excelent product by itself
and has too many features to explore that a book could be written.
Servicemix could be explained without deep knowledge of Karaf and the
SMX 3 version is a great product that should not be easy dismiss.
Interactions, set up, concepts, there are lots of things to be
explored in a book about each. Its a great idea and I look forward to
read the book.
Thats my humble opinion.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Charles Moulliard
<cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi JB, All,
>
> We have started a discussion regarding to the Manning book name a
> couple of weeks ago and the idea was you propose to use karaf + smx in
> the title name or as a subtitle. We have to re-discuss this point with
> the editor soon. I hope also that in the meantime, Aries 0.3 will be
> published because we would like to cover some interesting topics like
> Aries Transaction, JPA, ... with camel on Smx.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles Moulliard
>
> Sr. Principal Solution Architect - FuseSource
> Apache Committer
>
> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
> Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
> Skype: cmoulliard
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
>> Hi JB,
>>
>> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ade
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
>> To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <de...@servicemix.apache.org>
>> Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
>> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>>
>> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
>> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
>> dependencies (components, etc)
>> - to work on the documentation and website
>>
>> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
>> visibility of the project.
>> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>>
>> I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
>>
>> The book could be split into two big sections:
>> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
>> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>>
>> What do you think ?
>>
>> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
Hi JB, All,
We have started a discussion regarding to the Manning book name a
couple of weeks ago and the idea was you propose to use karaf + smx in
the title name or as a subtitle. We have to re-discuss this point with
the editor soon. I hope also that in the meantime, Aries 0.3 will be
published because we would like to cover some interesting topics like
Aries Transaction, JPA, ... with camel on Smx.
Regards,
Charles Moulliard
Sr. Principal Solution Architect - FuseSource
Apache Committer
Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
Skype: cmoulliard
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
> Hi JB,
>
> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>
> Cheers,
> Ade
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
> To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <de...@servicemix.apache.org>
> Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>
> Hi all,
>
> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>
> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
> dependencies (components, etc)
> - to work on the documentation and website
>
> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
> visibility of the project.
> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>
> I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
>
> The book could be split into two big sections:
> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>
> What do you think ?
>
> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Unbelievable !!
It's really a shame.
Definitely we have to work on a "real" quality book as you made for
"Camel In Action" :)
Regards
JB
On 01/19/2011 08:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I found this terrible SMX book
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6131720517/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i5?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=14PE2P8JVX5TAVWYV6B1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
>
> Seems like a huge insult to the publishing world to charge 45$ for a
> ripoff from wikipedia and only about 100 pages.
>
>
>
> Anyway long live the "ServiceMixX and Karaf in Action book".
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman<TR...@progress.com> wrote:
>> Hi JB,
>>
>> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ade
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
>> To: dev@karaf.apache.org<de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev<de...@servicemix.apache.org>
>> Subject: Karaf& ServiceMix In Action
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
>> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>>
>> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
>> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
>> dependencies (components, etc)
>> - to work on the documentation and website
>>
>> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
>> visibility of the project.
>> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>>
>> I propose to think about "Karaf& ServiceMix In Action".
>>
>> The book could be split into two big sections:
>> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
>> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>>
>> What do you think ?
>>
>> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>
>
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Unbelievable !!
It's really a shame.
Definitely we have to work on a "real" quality book as you made for
"Camel In Action" :)
Regards
JB
On 01/19/2011 08:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I found this terrible SMX book
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6131720517/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i5?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=14PE2P8JVX5TAVWYV6B1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
>
> Seems like a huge insult to the publishing world to charge 45$ for a
> ripoff from wikipedia and only about 100 pages.
>
>
>
> Anyway long live the "ServiceMixX and Karaf in Action book".
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman<TR...@progress.com> wrote:
>> Hi JB,
>>
>> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ade
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
>> To: dev@karaf.apache.org<de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev<de...@servicemix.apache.org>
>> Subject: Karaf& ServiceMix In Action
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
>> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>>
>> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
>> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
>> dependencies (components, etc)
>> - to work on the documentation and website
>>
>> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
>> visibility of the project.
>> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>>
>> I propose to think about "Karaf& ServiceMix In Action".
>>
>> The book could be split into two big sections:
>> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
>> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>>
>> What do you think ?
>>
>> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>
>
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hi
I found this terrible SMX book
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6131720517/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i5?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=14PE2P8JVX5TAVWYV6B1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
Seems like a huge insult to the publishing world to charge 45$ for a
ripoff from wikipedia and only about 100 pages.
Anyway long live the "ServiceMixX and Karaf in Action book".
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
> Hi JB,
>
> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>
> Cheers,
> Ade
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
> To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <de...@servicemix.apache.org>
> Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>
> Hi all,
>
> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>
> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
> dependencies (components, etc)
> - to work on the documentation and website
>
> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
> visibility of the project.
> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>
> I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
>
> The book could be split into two big sections:
> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>
> What do you think ?
>
> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
FuseSource
Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hi
I found this terrible SMX book
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6131720517/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i5?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=14PE2P8JVX5TAVWYV6B1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
Seems like a huge insult to the publishing world to charge 45$ for a
ripoff from wikipedia and only about 100 pages.
Anyway long live the "ServiceMixX and Karaf in Action book".
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
> Hi JB,
>
> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>
> Cheers,
> Ade
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
> To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <de...@servicemix.apache.org>
> Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>
> Hi all,
>
> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>
> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
> dependencies (components, etc)
> - to work on the documentation and website
>
> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
> visibility of the project.
> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>
> I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
>
> The book could be split into two big sections:
> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>
> What do you think ?
>
> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
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Twitter: davsclaus
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Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
Hi JB, All,
We have started a discussion regarding to the Manning book name a
couple of weeks ago and the idea was you propose to use karaf + smx in
the title name or as a subtitle. We have to re-discuss this point with
the editor soon. I hope also that in the meantime, Aries 0.3 will be
published because we would like to cover some interesting topics like
Aries Transaction, JPA, ... with camel on Smx.
Regards,
Charles Moulliard
Sr. Principal Solution Architect - FuseSource
Apache Committer
Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
Skype: cmoulliard
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com> wrote:
> Hi JB,
>
> I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
>
> Cheers,
> Ade
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
> To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <de...@servicemix.apache.org>
> Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
>
> Hi all,
>
> several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
> book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
>
> I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
> - to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
> dependencies (components, etc)
> - to work on the documentation and website
>
> Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
> visibility of the project.
> However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
>
> I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
>
> The book could be split into two big sections:
> - Karaf from user and dev point of view
> - ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
>
> What do you think ?
>
> We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>.
Hi JB,
I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
Cheers,
Ade
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <de...@servicemix.apache.org>
Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Hi all,
several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
- to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
dependencies (components, etc)
- to work on the documentation and website
Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
visibility of the project.
However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
The book could be split into two big sections:
- Karaf from user and dev point of view
- ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
What do you think ?
We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
Regards
JB
Re: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Posted by Adrian Trenaman <TR...@progress.com>.
Hi JB,
I think you're right! My feeling is though that 'ServiceMix in Action' naturally will be renamed 'ServiceMix and Karaf in Action' by the time it is published, as the Karaf core is so fundamental to modern ServiceMix.
Cheers,
Ade
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 02:12 AM
To: dev@karaf.apache.org <de...@karaf.apache.org>; dev <de...@servicemix.apache.org>
Subject: Karaf & ServiceMix In Action
Hi all,
several weeks ago, Charles launched the idea of a ServiceMix In Action
book, as Claus and the others wrote Camel In Action.
I think that we're all agree that before starting this such book, we need:
- to release ServiceMix 4.3.0 and ServiceMix 3.3.3, with all required
dependencies (components, etc)
- to work on the documentation and website
Anyway, ServiceMix In Action is really a good idea and will improve the
visibility of the project.
However, I think that ServiceMix is too restrictive.
I propose to think about "Karaf & ServiceMix In Action".
The book could be split into two big sections:
- Karaf from user and dev point of view
- ServiceMix 4 and the usage of Karaf, with a special focus on NMR
What do you think ?
We can add this on our huge TODO list :)
Regards
JB