You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to user@struts.apache.org by "Galbreath, Mark" <Ga...@tessco.com> on 2002/09/20 15:23:02 UTC
RE: [42] Real Programmers
Heh-heh. I agree with you, though I started life with a Commie 64 and
learned BASIC. My next machine was a Mac 512 and learned C on it and the
college's Unix system (and I always hated HyperCard). I actually was using
REXX on a Sequoia 6000 and JCL on an IBM 370 before I ever learned how to
program a DOS/Windows system. And though I never learned LISP, I did dabble
in Scheme for awhile.
I disagree with your opinion of FORTRAN users, however. The engineers gave
the Real Programmers the algorithms, who then coded the app.
Nevertheless, this is a topic that evokes perennial interest on
struts-users.
Mark
Cogito ergo spud
(I think, therefore I yam.)
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hickey [mailto:bhickey@r-effects.com]
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:54 AM
Mark,
Re: Struts List et al
Apologies for the off list contact. I read the "So you want to be a real
programmer" note and I was ROTFL! I should explain that I was writing IBM
370/Assembler when that era happened. I did not, however opt for a TRS 80...
a Real Programmer owned an Osborn computer (CPM was the OS).
I don't know what age you are (none of my business) but I offer that LISP
actually pre-dates FORTRAN and that FORTRAN was for ENGINEERS not Real
Programmers. Real Programmers wrote in Assembler and LISP with the
occasional maverick (me) who wrote in Algol.
I also can confirm that I never spoke in capitol letters... LOL! I have,
however, acquired this idiotic habit of using emoticons in emails which, I
presume, imparts some semblance of emotion to an otherwise black and white
email. Such is life.
Adds:
Real programmers don't use Prolog
Real programmers do use SmallTalk
Real programmers don't use Macs because they could never find the
correlation between
Hypercard editors and the OS (aka - there was no DOS window).
Have a great weekend!
Brian Hickey
Codito ergo sum
--
To unsubscribe, e-mail: <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
For additional commands, e-mail: <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
Re: [42] Real Programmers
Posted by John Owen <jo...@hotmail.com>.
Computer Science at Tulane University was under Engineering. When asked why
we were learning FORTRAN at all in our accelerated first semester
FORTRAN/Pascal class, the professor replied, "You are not an engineer if you
do not know FORTRAN".
----- Original Message -----
From: "Galbreath, Mark" <Ga...@tessco.com>
To: "Struts (E-mail)" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 8:23 AM
Subject: RE: [42] Real Programmers
> Heh-heh. I agree with you, though I started life with a Commie 64 and
> learned BASIC. My next machine was a Mac 512 and learned C on it and the
> college's Unix system (and I always hated HyperCard). I actually was
using
> REXX on a Sequoia 6000 and JCL on an IBM 370 before I ever learned how to
> program a DOS/Windows system. And though I never learned LISP, I did
dabble
> in Scheme for awhile.
>
> I disagree with your opinion of FORTRAN users, however. The engineers
gave
> the Real Programmers the algorithms, who then coded the app.
>
> Nevertheless, this is a topic that evokes perennial interest on
> struts-users.
>
>
> Mark
> Cogito ergo spud
> (I think, therefore I yam.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Hickey [mailto:bhickey@r-effects.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:54 AM
>
> Mark,
>
> Re: Struts List et al
>
> Apologies for the off list contact. I read the "So you want to be a real
> programmer" note and I was ROTFL! I should explain that I was writing IBM
> 370/Assembler when that era happened. I did not, however opt for a TRS
80...
> a Real Programmer owned an Osborn computer (CPM was the OS).
>
> I don't know what age you are (none of my business) but I offer that LISP
> actually pre-dates FORTRAN and that FORTRAN was for ENGINEERS not Real
> Programmers. Real Programmers wrote in Assembler and LISP with the
> occasional maverick (me) who wrote in Algol.
>
> I also can confirm that I never spoke in capitol letters... LOL! I have,
> however, acquired this idiotic habit of using emoticons in emails which, I
> presume, imparts some semblance of emotion to an otherwise black and white
> email. Such is life.
>
> Adds:
> Real programmers don't use Prolog
> Real programmers do use SmallTalk
> Real programmers don't use Macs because they could never find the
> correlation between
> Hypercard editors and the OS (aka - there was no DOS window).
>
> Have a great weekend!
>
> Brian Hickey
>
> Codito ergo sum
>
> --
> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> For additional commands, e-mail:
<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
>
>
--
To unsubscribe, e-mail: <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
For additional commands, e-mail: <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
RE: [42] Real Programmers
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@telocity.com>.
While we are all reminiscing....in the Tech news.....Scott McNealy relates
the obvious about who's left in the "programming ballpark".
http://news.com.com/
Click on the video titled "McNealy: CFOs are a tough sell"
.....the funniest part is who is sponsoring these cnet clips this
month....LOL
James Mitchell
Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:Galbreath@tessco.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:23 AM
> To: Struts (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [42] Real Programmers
>
>
> Heh-heh. I agree with you, though I started life with a Commie 64 and
> learned BASIC. My next machine was a Mac 512 and learned C on it and the
> college's Unix system (and I always hated HyperCard). I actually
> was using
> REXX on a Sequoia 6000 and JCL on an IBM 370 before I ever learned how to
> program a DOS/Windows system. And though I never learned LISP, I
> did dabble
> in Scheme for awhile.
>
> I disagree with your opinion of FORTRAN users, however. The
> engineers gave
> the Real Programmers the algorithms, who then coded the app.
>
> Nevertheless, this is a topic that evokes perennial interest on
> struts-users.
>
>
> Mark
> Cogito ergo spud
> (I think, therefore I yam.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Hickey [mailto:bhickey@r-effects.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:54 AM
>
> Mark,
>
> Re: Struts List et al
>
> Apologies for the off list contact. I read the "So you want to be a real
> programmer" note and I was ROTFL! I should explain that I was writing IBM
> 370/Assembler when that era happened. I did not, however opt for
> a TRS 80...
> a Real Programmer owned an Osborn computer (CPM was the OS).
>
> I don't know what age you are (none of my business) but I offer that LISP
> actually pre-dates FORTRAN and that FORTRAN was for ENGINEERS not Real
> Programmers. Real Programmers wrote in Assembler and LISP with the
> occasional maverick (me) who wrote in Algol.
>
> I also can confirm that I never spoke in capitol letters... LOL! I have,
> however, acquired this idiotic habit of using emoticons in emails which, I
> presume, imparts some semblance of emotion to an otherwise black and white
> email. Such is life.
>
> Adds:
> Real programmers don't use Prolog
> Real programmers do use SmallTalk
> Real programmers don't use Macs because they could never find the
> correlation between
> Hypercard editors and the OS (aka - there was no DOS window).
>
> Have a great weekend!
>
> Brian Hickey
>
> Codito ergo sum
>
> --
> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
For additional commands, e-mail:
<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
--
To unsubscribe, e-mail: <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
For additional commands, e-mail: <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>